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January 13, 2024, 05:19:06 PM
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as for the risk involved in sport arbitration is higher because if you loss all the games, you go home with empty hands. And also it is difficult to win all but it is easy to loss all. So I don't really advise people to play sport arbitrage.
In arbitrage betting you don't loss money because you have bets in both side. Winning or losing does not matter for you. But in arbitrage betting your return is low that's why you need to stake high so that return percentage increases.

You have to consider that if you are get caught by the provider then your bets will be voided and in some cases you will only given the deposits you made. Your account will be restricted too because gambling companies do not like arbitrage betting.

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January 13, 2024, 09:48:26 PM
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I've tried this on XFUN recently, and it didn't really work that well lol. I prefer the set your own odds feature they have now to arbitrage
Yes I don't think you will make huge profits by chasing sure bets on xfun.bet if it's what you mean by arbitrage. It's nice to meet someone offering lay bets there though. Are you making profits with that up to now? Unfortunately it doesn't seem to have many back bettors there to take the offers.  

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January 14, 2024, 12:00:31 AM
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as for the risk involved in sport arbitration is higher because if you loss all the games, you go home with empty hands. And also it is difficult to win all but it is easy to loss all. So I don't really advise people to play sport arbitrage.
In arbitrage betting you don't loss money because you have bets in both side. Winning or losing does not matter for you. But in arbitrage betting your return is low that's why you need to stake high so that return percentage increases.

You have to consider that if you are get caught by the provider then your bets will be voided and in some cases you will only given the deposits you made. Your account will be restricted too because gambling companies do not like arbitrage betting.
Very correct because I have a friend who have been making it large on this arbitrage betting and he didn't disclose it to anyone and the funny thing is that he has multiple accounts on different gambling sites and sometimes he even pays people to actually create account for him so that he can make use of their account for his arbitrage betting because all his account has been voided because the companies discover his style and knew it's cheating but still at that he still doesn't relent and the money he uses to stake the bets are widely crazy and he does it as you stated to actually have some tangible returns for staking on both option.

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January 14, 2024, 12:13:32 AM
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Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?

You should probably not do Sports betting arbitrage as that can easily be seen as breaking the terms and conditions of your online casino account. A lot of casinos warn against doing arbitrage explicitly! You might get caught and you account as well as your funds would get frozen. You might have a really hard time to get your account back, if at all possible. And getting your funds back will not be easy, either. There will be lots of hoops for you to jump through, for a long time. I have heard stories of such things taking months to clear up.

I have no idea why it bothers bookmakers.

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January 14, 2024, 02:04:39 AM
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From what I can recall on my gambling sessions, I don't remember ever doing that thing because I've sort of had this scary feeling in me that if I ever do this and slip up that I might have my account banned which isn't a fun thing to do because I'll have to be hassled again with the registration. I do know some people that does this and I can't be bothered to learn how to do it safely, seems like a really good way to make money but I'm already risking my money with gambling, might as well take it slowly with the gambling and just do it the old fashioned way which is losing a lot of money and getting frustrated  Cheesy  Cheesy.



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January 14, 2024, 02:08:36 AM
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In arbitrage betting you don't loss money because you have bets in both side. Winning or losing does not matter for you. But in arbitrage betting your return is low that's why you need to stake high so that return percentage increases.

I am just confused about it as how it is possible that we do not lose money in arbitrage betting where we bet in both sides of the game. If we bet on both teams, we will definitely lose one of those bets and if the wining bet has an odd of 1.5 , we will be in a loss. Wouldn't we ?

Lets suppose, i bet 100$ on Team A and 100$ on Team B with odds of 1.5. Total Investment is 200$.

Now Team B loses and i lost 100$. Team A wons and I won 150$. So at the end of the day, i got 150$ and lost 50$ in this process  Roll Eyes


You have to consider that if you are get caught by the provider then your bets will be voided and in some cases you will only given the deposits you made. Your account will be restricted too because gambling companies do not like arbitrage betting.

Once i understand how Sports betting arbitrage is profitable, then for sure we can make accounts on different betting sites and then places one bet at each site and in this way, the betting agent won't be able to caught us.

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From what I can recall on my gambling sessions, I don't remember ever doing that thing because I've sort of had this scary feeling in me that if I ever do this and slip up that I might have my account banned which isn't a fun thing to do because I'll have to be hassled again with the registration. I do know some people that does this and I can't be bothered to learn how to do it safely, seems like a really good way to make money but I'm already risking my money with gambling, might as well take it slowly with the gambling and just do it the old fashioned way which is losing a lot of money and getting frustrated  Cheesy  Cheesy.

That's understandable because you will never know what the bookie will do to your account once you hit big time.
Better be cautious on this type of strategy, because you may use the same provider and you have kyc in their respective sites.
It may be not too hard if the money involved is only small but if you are talking about significant amount, better be careful about it.
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January 14, 2024, 01:35:59 PM
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OP, read this blog, https://overunderdc.com/f/betting-exchanges-vs-sportsbooks-pros-and-cons

That describes the difference between a centralized sports-betting company, and sports-betting exchange which is peer to peer. The one you described in your original post is a betting exchange. A sports-betting company has its own capital at stake playing against the sports-bettors' capital.

It also describes the pros and cons of each. Cool

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January 16, 2024, 06:29:04 PM
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From what I can recall on my gambling sessions, I don't remember ever doing that thing because I've sort of had this scary feeling in me that if I ever do this and slip up that I might have my account banned which isn't a fun thing to do because I'll have to be hassled again with the registration. I do know some people that does this and I can't be bothered to learn how to do it safely, seems like a really good way to make money but I'm already risking my money with gambling, might as well take it slowly with the gambling and just do it the old fashioned way which is losing a lot of money and getting frustrated  Cheesy  Cheesy.
That's understandable because you will never know what the bookie will do to your account once you hit big time.
Better be cautious on this type of strategy, because you may use the same provider and you have kyc in their respective sites.
It may be not too hard if the money involved is only small but if you are talking about significant amount, better be careful about it.
One shouldn't be afraid of the bookies or what they would do if they are doing everything within the rules and by following the terms and conditions of the platform. One should only be worried if they are doing something wrong like using wrong money or going against the rules and stuff. A gambler should only use the most reputable platforms for their gambling activities, especially if they are involved in sports betting so that they don't need to worry about such things.

When you are gambling with a reputable bookie, you wouldn't need to be worried about your account getting banned and stuff if you are doing things in the right way and winning in a legit way unless they find you cheating or having a pattern that indicates that you are winning in a suspicious way.

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Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?
Is like this topic is becoming a regular on the gambling board and I think I seen a few of this particular type of thread talking about arbitrage betting and it's getting to look really absurd whenever I see this topic. But am curious about one thing though which is about the legality of this particular arbitrage betting because I have come to the understanding that this is exactly welcome by many betting site and I believe if you are caught your winning will be confiscated and account even restricted.

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To be honest I never know about sport betting arbitrage I mean it is possible and how the thing is works? But I know artbit trade on exchange like you buy low in a exchange and sell high on b exchange it is same like that

I have been arbitraging for over 2 years now. I only use regulated sites that are available in my state.

You can learn about risks here https://positivebetting.com/blog/f/dangers-of-arbitrage-sports-betting

Yo do it for 2 years meaning is highly profitable for you right? What Sites do you use for it just curious

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To be honest I never know about sport betting arbitrage I mean it is possible and how the thing is works? But I know artbit trade on exchange like you buy low in a exchange and sell high on b exchange it is same like that
Arbitrage in sports betting is not very popular and not all gamblers will be able to understand and understand this betting method and indeed the most popular thing about Artbit is in the world of trading because this method is quite effective in generating profits when there is new asset launched in the market or trading platform.

I have been arbitraging for over 2 years now. I only use regulated sites that are available in my state.

You can learn about risks here https://positivebetting.com/blog/f/dangers-of-arbitrage-sports-betting

Yo do it for 2 years meaning is highly profitable for you right? What Sites do you use for it just curious
If done correctly, arbitrage can be quite profitable because you only need to use several gambling sites with different odds and of course there will be more bets and more capital.
Most of those who use this method are experienced gamblers because they want to increase their chances of winning.
If we can properly understand Arbitrage betting then the opportunity to make money can be more guaranteed and of course losses will be smaller.
It just that not all gamblers like this method, the reason is because they have to use more money.

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Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?

How is it even profitable because the odds won't have high discrepancies as far as I know.
Besides that, we eventually have to place the bet and win in-order to gain that extra % of amount.
If we lose the bet then we will be losing everything anyway.

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It is not impossible, you have to find two sites that got some spread between their opposite margins, however nowadays that is nearly impossible, firstly because the sites, at least the major ones, do monitor what is going on in other sites, and it creates a network that eliminates the arbitrage for the external users. It could only be on very specific situations on minoritarian sites and peculiar bets.

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Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?

How is it even profitable because the odds won't have high discrepancies as far as I know.
Besides that, we eventually have to place the bet and win in-order to gain that extra % of amount.
If we lose the bet then we will be losing everything anyway.
High discrepancy on the odds can appear when the sportbooks try to do what is called balancing the books, what this means is that one side of the bet has received massive support by the fans and if the underdog were to win they will lose money, and this is no good as casinos must win in every single bet they offer regardless of the result, so they offer way better odds to that side of the bet to encourage gamblers to make a bet on that direction, that is when an arbitrage bet can be made, in which you put yourself in a position similar to a casino and regardless of who wins you profit from the bets you made.

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Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this?
I didn’t try doing arbitrage before for many reasons, one of them is facing issues with sporbooks and casinos after receiving the winnings on your account, you will definitely face an issue to withdraw the money unless if you are betting with a very low capital.
Sportbooks suspects always the accounts with huge bets because simply to apply an arbitrage strategy you will need to bet high to win the small odds and advantage.

Only on bitcointalk we have many cases about users trying to withdraw their winnings using arbitrage strategies but the casinos are forbidding them with different reasons, asking for their documents and sometimes banning them from betting again.
Nowadays, it’s very hard to find opportunities with casinos and sportbooks applying rules against arbitrage.

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January 19, 2024, 11:06:29 PM
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Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?
I generally frown upon this as it exploits the casino for your profit. Like dude there is literally a reason why you'd play these games knowing fully-well that you'd lose. Taking the risk out of the equation just gives you the profit and if you're not really gambling for the risk or the entertainment thereof then what the heck are you gambling for in the first place?

If you say you're gambling for the profit then that's one way to start ruining yourself. Arbitrage isn't going to work 100% of the time and when that happens what are you gonna do? Of course, you place another bet. And you do that over and over again until you lose all your shit and marbles that you become addicted to gambling. Way to go champ. And if it does work, does it really feel nice knowing that once you get caught, especially if you're someone with a good standing and relationship with the casino you're playing with, you'd get banned? I've seen people's accounts be banned for arbitrage gambling and you're posting stuff like this specifically in the very place where most casinos actively interact with their customers, good luck with that.

I don't wanna sound like I'm the morally superior guy in the room but this just grinds my gears, what a huge waste of money, time, and effort when you could've just looked into other profitable ways to earn money and not risk your shit getting banned.

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January 20, 2024, 12:08:44 PM
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Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?

How is it even profitable because the odds won't have high discrepancies as far as I know.
Besides that, we eventually have to place the bet and win in-order to gain that extra % of amount.
If we lose the bet then we will be losing everything anyway.
High discrepancy on the odds can appear when the sportbooks try to do what is called balancing the books, what this means is that one side of the bet has received massive support by the fans and if the underdog were to win they will lose money, and this is no good as casinos must win in every single bet they offer regardless of the result, so they offer way better odds to that side of the bet to encourage gamblers to make a bet on that direction, that is when an arbitrage bet can be made, in which you put yourself in a position similar to a casino and regardless of who wins you profit from the bets you made.

Suppose that you have placed a bet on the side which has high odds. Don't you still lose the money if the side with high odds loses.
You can get good profit only in case you win that round with high odds. Could you explain with an example ?

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January 22, 2024, 05:35:05 AM
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Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?

How is it even profitable because the odds won't have high discrepancies as far as I know.


Although arbitrage profits with a very small margin which requires large amounts of money, it's still profitable if your capital is large enough and your volume is high enough.

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Besides that, we eventually have to place the bet and win in-order to gain that extra % of amount.
If we lose the bet then we will be losing everything anyway.


No, that doesn't how it works. Because of the inefficiences of the odds from different sports-betting sites, an arber will merely bet on one team, then bet against himself with the other team. The discrepancy of the odds from those two different sports-betting sites will assure the arber some profit.

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January 25, 2024, 02:45:03 AM
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Arbitrage in sports betting is not very popular and not all gamblers will be able to understand and understand this betting method and indeed the most popular thing about Artbit is in the world of trading because this method is quite effective in generating profits when there is new asset launched in the market or trading platform.

I never know it so yeah I think this not very popular tho but not popular doesn't mean this is less profitable it can be huge profitable just like trade was in my opinion

If done correctly, arbitrage can be quite profitable because you only need to use several gambling sites with different odds and of course there will be more bets and more capital.
Most of those who use this method are experienced gamblers because they want to increase their chances of winning.
If we can properly understand Arbitrage betting then the opportunity to make money can be more guaranteed and of course losses will be smaller.
It just that not all gamblers like this method, the reason is because they have to use more money.

So basically I need two accounts with funded accounts to do sports arbitrate. I really curious about this is there any tutorial video about it?

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