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January 08, 2024, 01:37:53 PM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
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January 08, 2024, 01:51:29 PM
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I'm pretty sure most people knew that already but you know gambling is not something that guarantee you getting rich any way. But there's a reason they called it jackpot. You know gambling all about luck or that you might be lucky enough to hit the jackpot that can cover the funds gambling have eaten from you. Come to think of it if everyone is winning how will the casino pay. Through those losses most casino normally use to pay for others wins. Aslong there's winner they will always be losers.

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January 08, 2024, 01:59:28 PM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
If you know that gambling is a means of fraud, and casino are using this to extort money from gamblers, why are you still gambling, you can just quit gambling finally, so that you don't become their victim anymore. However, I disagree with you on that statement because, I have seen a lot of gamblers that won big and their money was given to them. Gambling is known as try your luck and if you think that you are capable of winning, you can try your luck, and this should be done for fun and not because you want use it as an advantage to make money, if so, you got it wrong. There are some casinos that are out there to scam people and such casinos don't last as they will always deprive gamblers from their win. It is hard to win more than you lose and put that in your mind.

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January 08, 2024, 02:03:21 PM
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I'm not sure the point you are trying to make because of the contradiction at the middle part of your post but I believe gambling is not a guarantee for riches and the house always has better winning chances than the player. You also need to understand that you have to gamble with the money you can afford to lose whether in online casino or offline and that is how you can be satisfied in your games whether lose or profit.

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January 08, 2024, 02:07:52 PM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔


I suggest that you should read the Responsible Gambling terms to educate you properly what is gambling for. Casino never trick players just make them play but rather player itself creates a delusion that can win the jackpot whenever they play that’s why they keep coming back.

Casino is not an income generator but rather a service that provides entertainment through gambling. There’s really no way to beat them or continuously get profit since all their games has a house edge advantage which guarantees casino profits even if they pay a jackpot prize to one user.

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January 08, 2024, 02:09:16 PM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Don't give yourself heart attack when the whole thing is very easy and simple to understand, no one is enforcing gambling on anyone, you make a choice by desiring to use your money to gamble and get entertained having lots of fun, isn't that alone enough for your justice, what else do you want or have to gain in convincing others about what gambling is, can you just imagine the numbers of gamblers across the world to the numbers of those enjoying it and those not, that alone could explain to you why it will always be and can never be a cheat on people, you're too minded on loosing than winning and that's part of what makes you to be reasoning like this.

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January 08, 2024, 02:23:10 PM
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First, I will advice you learn to use punctuation where appropriate, in your posts, comments, so that your readers will find it easy to understand your message easily.

And back to your claim, that gambling is a scam, well, i do not think that gambling is really a scam, but I guess you are just as entitled to your opinion as my very self.
Gambling has made alot of persons millionaires, same it has also rekted some people, the real deal in gambling is, knowing your game and how to gamble  strategically and responsibly.

And beside, would be nice to know as well that gambling is not necessarily for everyone, nobody is forced to gamble, if you believe it's a scam, then thats your opinion, which I believe I don't have to believe, right..? Yah.

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January 08, 2024, 02:23:16 PM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
I don't understand where you are coming from with saying that casinos or gambling itself is a fraud. Casinos and gambling are businesses and if you see people that don't make money from it, remind them that they should control themselves and don't gamble a lot with their hard-earned money. If you think that many have been tricked, it's because we're thinking that we can win all of the money that is coming from these casinos.

There have been a lot of threads already about gambling and people who are misled by their thoughts about it. Take sometime to go through them on the gambling discussion board and you'd see a bunch of these threads. And as you've said, there is nothing can be done with it because that's a fact. A gambler that has tasted to win for several times and understands the risk that gambling has and sees the stance of most of the casinos won't fall for such tricks of themselves. They might lose a lot but that is a bearable loss and that can't be blamed to the casino as we're all doing these actions with our own will. If someone is unfortunate in gambling for this day, there's a term called rest and that's what they need to do instead of pursuing which isn't going to work if they are unlucky at all.

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January 08, 2024, 02:28:06 PM
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How your post sounds to me:
- You do not believe in Random Number Generators
- You do not think results are fair and that outcomes can be verified via provably fair system
- You do not believe the casino even if they say their house edge is 5% right in front of your face

Do yourself a favor - don't gamble.

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January 08, 2024, 02:29:10 PM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature
Gambling should be for fun. If you want to have fun, you can gamble. If you want to make money, do not gamble at all. See gambling as a service rendered for people to have fun and nothing more. And if you want to have the fun, just use little amount of money for gambling which will not affect your life negativity.

One example is like you went to drink beer and you always drink to stupor. The people that make you to have have fun by serving you drinks will make money from you but not that you should waste money to drink to stupor. See gambling sites like that.

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January 08, 2024, 02:29:50 PM
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there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house
This is just a basic understanding of gambling and you have to understand it in plain sight without other people telling you. You bet based on "luck" and everyone knows that "it won't always be". If you hope to always make money, you have to do business like a bookie. Gamblers aren't businessman, but the house must maintain its business as long as possible.

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if you ask me gambling is a fraud
As long as there is a systematic probability of winning for one or more gamblers and paying out those winnings, it is not fraud. The fraud is your own desire to always be lucky.

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January 08, 2024, 02:29:56 PM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

What are you mumbling about? Of course the games are rigged against the players. That's how gambling works. If you don't like it, then don't play. If the casino don't have any advantage over the players, how are they gonna make money? Remember this is a business we are talking about and like every other business out there, the main goal is to generate a reliable cash flow. (make money) The casino makes the money when their customers loses. It is as simple as that.

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What are you mumbling about? Of course the games are rigged against the players. That's how gambling works.
Do not make it confusing, those games are not rigged. If casino games are rigged, it has another meaning entirely and that means the gambling site did something bad to their machine in a way that all customers will always lose because the games will always be in their favour. But what you are talking about is the house edge which all casinos have. The machine works normally but people  can not always win but to lose more if they keep on gambling.

You are right about the second point, that if casinos do not make money, how will they continue the business.

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If you know that gambling is a means of fraud, and casino are using this to extort money from gamblers, why are you still gambling, you can just quit gambling finally, so that you don't become their victim anymore. However, I disagree with you on that statement because, I have seen a lot of gamblers that won big and their money was given to them. Gambling is known as try your luck and if you think that you are capable of winning, you can try your luck, and this should be done for fun and not because you want use it as an advantage to make money, if so, you got it wrong. There are some casinos that are out there to scam people and such casinos don't last as they will always deprive gamblers from their win. It is hard to win more than you lose and put that in your mind.

Indeed, given the nature of casino games, t's hard to win more than you lose. It's not a charity joint, it's a casino FFS, they operate for profits. So, obviously, most gamblers lose their money and only a minority of them wins more than was staked. But those people exist, many thousands of them. When they say everyone can profit from gambling, don't believe them. But when they say that they themselves have profited, it can be a fact whether we like it or not.

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January 08, 2024, 02:49:16 PM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature
Always be decisive about which way you want to gamble. You should decide if you want to gamble professionally or gamble for fun. Gambling professionally means you are taking it as a source of income, it is difficult to make a steady source of income from it and those who chose this pathway know it. You see them have other "gambling related side hustles attached to it". Those who gamble for fun and gamble responsibly see it all fun and not a medium to make money. The casino will always win and there it is a fact that they accept. if you cannot accept it, then don't gamble. If you can accept it, then gamble strategically.

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January 08, 2024, 02:54:18 PM
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Always be decisive about which way you want to gamble. You should decide if you want to gamble professionally or gamble for fun. Gambling professionally means you are taking it as a source of income, it is difficult to make a steady source of income from it and those who chose this pathway know it. You see them have other "gambling related side hustles attached to it". Those who gamble for fun and gamble responsibly see it all fun and not a medium to make money. The casino will always win and there it is a fact that they accept. if you cannot accept it, then don't gamble. If you can accept it, then gamble strategically.

i don't know the real motive of the OP here why such post about gambling. but we already know the hard fact that gambling should not in anyway be used as a source of main income especially if you are playing those casino classics such as dice, hi-lo, roulette among others. because the chance that you are on the losing end is very high.

however, if you happen to be a professional poker player or sportsbettor, there's a chance that you can make good money out of it. but this path is years in the making. you can't achieve overnight success on these endeavours. so if you are patient enough and have passion on these games, then i would say, you have good likelihood of earning good income and you won't be troubled that you are into gambling.

What are you mumbling about? Of course the games are rigged against the players. That's how gambling works. If you don't like it, then don't play. If the casino don't have any advantage over the players, how are they gonna make money? Remember this is a business we are talking about and like every other business out there, the main goal is to generate a reliable cash flow. (make money) The casino makes the money when their customers loses. It is as simple as that.

not really rigged but let's say they have their house edge and that's what gambling is all about. if you can't accept such reality, then by all means you should not touch gambling in your life. this is why gambling business is a lucrative one if they know how to manage one. and it is up to the player whether he is ok with house edge, provable fairness or the rtp of the game.

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January 08, 2024, 02:58:39 PM
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That's true, mate. But does that mean people shouldn't gamble at all? When we gamble, sometimes we win by luck, and other times we lose to the house. It's a bit of both, even though the house usually has the upper hand. no body mind when gamblers find ways to outsmart the system. When we gamble, it's for fun. We don't do it because we like losing money, but rather to test our luck and see if we can make some gains from betting. If someone starts seeing gambling as a way to make a living, it becomes challenging and stops being enjoyable. Even though we know that casinos might cheat, and there's fraud, people still play because they want to experience the fun in gambling. This emphasizes that gambling shouldn't be something you stress over, it's meant for fun

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January 08, 2024, 03:11:09 PM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
Alright mate, stop gambling now that you have discovered that it is fraud. At least minus you the number of jackpots competitors will reduce thereby increasing the chances of some gambler somewhere  aiming for the jackpot. Roll Eyes

Op you want every participants in a jackpot to win altogether simultaneously and for you that's the only way it doesn't seem to be a fraud. Perhaps it's a good idea since everyone loves and want to win but have you thought about it that if it happens the way you Op wants it how can the casino's pay all the winners when we all know very well that it's from the losses of other lottery participants/gamblers that they use in paying the winner that emerges.

It is called gambling, a game of chance, random luck which is why everyone can not win at same time. My two cents to you Op is that if you suspect the casino you're using for gambling is cheating you then maybe you can try your luck on other reputable casino, you can do that with freebitco.in who knows you might just be the next lucky winner in one of their regular rewarding competition's.

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Everybody can say something, proving it isn't easy. The only thing that is always constant is casino players are losing and it could just be because people are out of luck and it's not hard to find your luck to hit jackpot.

But there is proof also that people hit the jackpot and claimed the big prize. Online casinos are just not easy to beat but if you are suspicious of their random numbers, try sports betting, this is obviously a good choice.


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January 08, 2024, 03:34:33 PM
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I'm not sure the point you are trying to make because of the contradiction at the middle part of your post but I believe gambling is not a guarantee for riches and the house always has better winning chances than the player. You also need to understand that you have to gamble with the money you can afford to lose whether in online casino or offline and that is how you can be satisfied in your games whether lose or profit.

Perhaps he is accusing casino for offering jackpot rewards while they don’t pay it in reality. I think he is assuming that jackpot is the way of casino to lure players to play more for profit without giving any equal return. Simply a pure house advantage since he doesn’t believe that casino doesn’t payout jackpot to players.

OP probably one of those players that frequently losing which resulted to questioning of casino integrity. This is not knew and also there’s really some shady casino that fit to OP description but not the trusted gambling site here.

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