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January 09, 2024, 11:07:12 PM
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You just might not have given much attention to your composure as, everything you’ve written clearly sounds like in the opposite. Not any less negative by the way but yeah, that’s how I read it.

Anyway, having yo believe that casino games are manipulated or programmed in such a way that, it doesn’t matter what’s your prediction, the house will always win, that’s not entirely true.
Most casino has a provable fair system to determine fairness in there game offerings and in most cases, it makes use of your own inputs to run some algorithms and the result is what the system displays at the end of a round.

I might agree with you that the house have got an edge over your prediction but, your inputs does matters and there is a deal of fairness in casino game offerings.



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January 09, 2024, 11:09:42 PM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature
If gambling should be a fraud as you call it to be, almost all country's governments would have placed a ban on it, telling their citizens to stay clear of it because of the fraud they find about it. But here we are, no countries have called out gambling to be a fraud. What we normally see is the instructions of gamblers to gamble responsibly and they should be above 18 years old before they start gambling.

For you to come up with this outrageous claim that gambling is fraud sounds funny because nobody has thought or experienced it to be that way because everyone who wins in it, is paid according to their winnings.

Gambling is not what Op thinks it is, but at some point one would wonder what gambling is actually about, due to the way people get lost in the process. Imagine players losing out their money and still are interested in throwing more money into the game. As gamblers we need to know or understand that our choices is at stake. The money we stake and the time spent gambling is of the player's decision. One way, we feel sad about the actions of addicted gamblers in our family and neighborhood. But since it's self inflicted, most people wouldn't care about the gambler's problem. Hence it gets to a point where the addicted person begins to feel left behind, and that nobody cares to save him from his troubles. Such people may begin to think of the way Op sees gambling, because it'll look to them that gambling has taken almost everything away from them, which is not a good idea.

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January 09, 2024, 11:19:41 PM
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When it concerns woes of gambling or the woes of a gambler, much is said than done to reduce gambling activities and addictions that have grown outta control.

A man lamented all through today of how he placed a bet and won only to see the game cancelled after winning. Although this is not gambling per se, still, one of the woes of gambling is just that steady rambling all day to anyone that listens, about how a game would have played out better , but it didn't.
The thought pattern during the rambling days will be flooded with how the game should have been instead of thinking in the present and making future plans.

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January 09, 2024, 11:45:30 PM
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Actually gamblers are aware that the house or casino always wins, but basically. Humans have the instinct to seek sensation and excitement by gambling, even though there is a risk of losing money, people still like to gamble even though they know they cannot win because they are fascinated by the great hope of getting a big win.
And winnings or big winnings are real and not fraud, but this is a matter of luck, if you are unlucky you will always experience continuous losses because high expectations make you continue playing without caring that the house always wins.
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January 09, 2024, 11:58:54 PM
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But since it's self inflicted, most people wouldn't care about the gambler's problem. Hence it gets to a point where the addicted person begins to feel left behind, and that nobody cares to save him from his troubles. Such people may begin to think of the way Op sees gambling, because it'll look to them that gambling has taken almost everything away from them, which is not a good idea.
Problem gambling like this that makes someone miserable will look more complex, and this will happen to any gambler who is too addicted.
They will feel devastated and feel like there is no chance anymore.
The role of people in their environment is very important so that there is no excessive sense of regret.

When they feel left behind and feel that no one cares about them, these slumped gamblers have almost crossed their limits.
At this point, brands will probably be aware of what they're already doing.
That way, it will be easier to release them from gambling addiction slowly.

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January 10, 2024, 12:02:14 AM
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I guess you might feel wronged if you have the wrong expectations. Gambling should just be for entertainment like the feeling when you're trying your luck and not some sort of source of income. Most long time gamblers understands that and have no problems.

Also, the house edge is setup in a way where it's fair for both parties, casinos are businesses afterall. Should I say, it is setup in moderation -- for the lack of better word? for instance, as we know, house edge is more on the long run plus each game has a different percentage of house edge so if one is concerned, they should pick within the lowest ones.

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January 10, 2024, 12:32:58 AM
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I guess you might feel wronged if you have the wrong expectations. Gambling should just be for entertainment like the feeling when you're trying your luck and not some sort of source of income. Most long time gamblers understands that and have no problems.

Also, the house edge is setup in a way where it's fair for both parties, casinos are businesses afterall. Should I say, it is setup in moderation -- for the lack of better word? for instance, as we know, house edge is more on the long run plus each game has a different percentage of house edge so if one is concerned, they should pick within the lowest ones.

True I think they can't lie about what they feel when they lose, one of the reasons is because of their mistake in putting their hopes or expectations in a place that basically does not have any certainty and guarantee and in addition in gambling the percentage of wins is much smaller than losses so obviously they will lose more and it is a very wrong approach if you put expectations on a victory that is clearly difficult to get. True, gambling should be a fun activity and not make you experience a lot of pressure due to too serious and too many experiments so that obviously the number of defeats must be more.

It is usually true that those who have the wrong mindset and do not have the right understanding of how gambling works are those newly arrived gamblers, the fact is that just by getting one win they can change their mindset such as believing that "gambling is a place to earn" when the victory is nothing but just because at the same time luck comes, well that's what I always remember that gambling is a profitable business for the casino, the casino organizes everything so it makes no sense if you come to earn while on the other hand this is a business for the casino, you can't fight the house and if you fight then you will lose a large amount like gambling addicts.

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January 10, 2024, 01:55:02 AM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Actually, that is mostly what gambling is about, not having any choice or impact over the outcome of the session, otherwise it could not be classified as gambling, but as maybe a skill game of some sort. Also, you must be very new at gambling, otherwise you would be aware that there are ways which can be used to actually know whether a casino is being fair, by the use of cryptography and seeds.
Granted, not all providers are probably fair, but I still believe calling gambling in general a fraud is an exaggeration, since you are making special emphasis on casinos which offer jackpots to their gamblers, you should check a Thread which has been opened here in this section about a lucky gamblers hitting the jackpot and taking over 42 million dollars home in a luck slot spin. It is not a fraud as long as the casino can be verified and they indeed pay those who are lucky. As simple as that.

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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
You does not pinpoint what you mean by here as it sounds contradicting , Jackpot casino is super random to win almost same as impossible so what does this mean to you? they are not structured to make money?
yeah Human nature to risk , human nature to try and being adventurous but implying this to question their motive in gambling is only answerable by that player only, I may say gambling is for fun? who cares about my motive right? i can also say I gamble to make money so what do you care? it is me mate and that is you, let us just all enjoy gambling to our own extent , it is your money , this is my money.
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January 10, 2024, 02:35:07 AM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Actually, that is mostly what gambling is about, not having any choice or impact over the outcome of the session, otherwise it could not be classified as gambling, but as maybe a skill game of some sort. Also, you must be very new at gambling, otherwise you would be aware that there are ways which can be used to actually know whether a casino is being fair, by the use of cryptography and seeds.
Granted, not all providers are probably fair, but I still believe calling gambling in general a fraud is an exaggeration, since you are making special emphasis on casinos which offer jackpots to their gamblers, you should check a Thread which has been opened here in this section about a lucky gamblers hitting the jackpot and taking over 42 million dollars home in a luck slot spin. It is not a fraud as long as the casino can be verified and they indeed pay those who are lucky. As simple as that.
from his statement I besides being new could have gotten a pretty big defeat in gambling. maybe just thinking about getting a lot of money from gambling without regard to the fun of playing gambling.
Gambling players who have been around for a long time will definitely have fun with their gambling choices and will definitely have very good financial management.

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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔


I suggest that you should read the Responsible Gambling terms to educate you properly what is gambling for. Casino never trick players just make them play but rather player itself creates a delusion that can win the jackpot whenever they play that’s why they keep coming back.

Casino is not an income generator but rather a service that provides entertainment through gambling. There’s really no way to beat them or continuously get profit since all their games has a house edge advantage which guarantees casino profits even if they pay a jackpot prize to one user.
Thats what people who want to gamble or beginners who want to gamble must learn, that is, they have to learn to be responsible gambler so that they recognize what gambling is and what type can provide good luck. Indeed, sometime casinos seem to fool their users into continuing to gamble on their platform. But that doesn't mean they are cheating, but rather promoting game thats can be entertainment for the public, and maybe some people have too high expectation about big wins, which can lead to disappointment if they keep losing.

Of course, casinos only provide services, not open employment opportunities where they can earn money, and if you are lucky then you can win, but if not, you will experienced defeat. Don't ever experience misery in gambling because gambling is actually a game and don't gamble exceed your limit because it will make your life miserable.

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January 10, 2024, 07:44:05 AM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Actually, that is mostly what gambling is about, not having any choice or impact over the outcome of the session, otherwise it could not be classified as gambling, but as maybe a skill game of some sort. Also, you must be very new at gambling, otherwise you would be aware that there are ways which can be used to actually know whether a casino is being fair, by the use of cryptography and seeds.
Granted, not all providers are probably fair, but I still believe calling gambling in general a fraud is an exaggeration, since you are making special emphasis on casinos which offer jackpots to their gamblers, you should check a Thread which has been opened here in this section about a lucky gamblers hitting the jackpot and taking over 42 million dollars home in a luck slot spin. It is not a fraud as long as the casino can be verified and they indeed pay those who are lucky. As simple as that.
from his statement I besides being new could have gotten a pretty big defeat in gambling. maybe just thinking about getting a lot of money from gambling without regard to the fun of playing gambling.
Gambling players who have been around for a long time will definitely have fun with their gambling choices and will definitely have very good financial management.

A responsible gambler can do that, enjoying every game that they played and not to focus to the winning money but focusing in how they gain
that entertainment that they are aiming before playing the game.

It's really tough to say that you can have both in each game you play, it will break the sentiment of gambling but instead like the post above said
it will be classified as game of strategy, maybe some may master the pattern but still they can suffer from defeats.

It's gambling and no one is assured aside from the house which always have the portion coming from the house edge.
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The part you missed is the simplest of all, if gamblers around the world are not making money from gambling, casinos wont survive anymore because many gamblers would have quit.

As hard as it seem to win in gambling, the reason why many still have hope is because they know someone or a friend of a friend who just won some money in gambling, OP, people are still making money by gambling, if you think otherwise you should quit, it may be for the best reasons.

It will be your decision, not for many others, and some people will get more luckier than you, it's how this world is created, you will feel even more frustrated if you are jealous of them, not knowing that some people are created with the lucky stars.
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I believe that casino platforms do not cheat but we have seen many people win the jackpot. Users who won the jackpot certainly didn't lose their money but got rich just by gambling. But if you are constantly losing while gambling, then there are many mistakes in your bad game due to which you are not able to win bets. If you bet seriously with good understanding, you will surely win, and if you bet without understanding, you will surely lose. If the casino sites were cheating then of course no user would have deposited their money here, but most of the casino platforms are trustworthy. But you have to accept that gambling can make you lose money at any time and make money at any time.

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I believe that casino platforms do not cheat but we have seen many people win the jackpot. Users who won the jackpot certainly didn't lose their money but got rich just by gambling. But if you are constantly losing while gambling, then there are many mistakes in your bad game due to which you are not able to win bets. If you bet seriously with good understanding, you will surely win, and if you bet without understanding, you will surely lose. If the casino sites were cheating then of course no user would have deposited their money here, but most of the casino platforms are trustworthy. But you have to accept that gambling can make you lose money at any time and make money at any time.
Trusted casinos will not cheat their members. Otherwise, the casino will lose its reputation and even be abandoned by its loyal members if caught cheating. Even though no one knows, the casino will not want to risk losing its reputation and for this reason, the casino always maintains its reputation well by not cheating its members. However, many of its members are greedy, which causes them to experience large losses and accuse the casino of cheating them even though it is their fault for not controlling and preventing them. If members understand this, they will try to limit their gambling games and will not risk losing a lot of money. They will try to use gambling as a pastime instead of using it as a place to make money because they know it will never be easy. They would rather have fun at gambling even though the result is that they lose rather than having to use a lot of money but they still experience losses but it is a lot of losses.

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There's no guaranteed winning in gambling and that's what makes it more exciting and thrilling. Most people are up for the cheap dopamine it provides. If you decided to gamble, then you better be ready for the consequences of your actions whether it may be a good or bad one. Benefits are surely fun to have, but there are also repercussions. So you should look after that as well and be on your guard to take it.

Gambling against the house will not really favor you most of the time, especially when playing luck based games. RTP is set differently in every casino which mostly favors the house instead of the player. But it doesn't mean that the player won't win too. You can win, as long as you have what it takes to win. Skills, strategies, determination, information, and luck. Sometimes it just needs one of those, and most of the times it needs the combination of it altogether. So depending on what you are playing, you must assess the risks and the rewards. If you can only let go a specific amount for a bet or play, then just bet that and nothing more to avoid regret.
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you might be Wright but even if its true should be virtual, colour, spin and win games those set of games are program games which you can be lucky at times and also not be lucky compeard to live games which is played by human. Like Premier League where humans can play and you can watch them live. So I believe that live game which is Premier League and others, is better off to gamble than program games which is probably Spain and win or colour games.

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January 10, 2024, 01:54:56 PM
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Trusted casinos will not cheat their members. Otherwise, the casino will lose its reputation and even be abandoned by its loyal members if caught cheating. Even though no one knows, the casino will not want to risk losing its reputation and for this reason, the casino always maintains its reputation well by not cheating its members. However, many of its members are greedy, which causes them to experience large losses and accuse the casino of cheating them even though it is their fault for not controlling and preventing them. If members understand this, they will try to limit their gambling games and will not risk losing a lot of money. They will try to use gambling as a pastime instead of using it as a place to make money because they know it will never be easy. They would rather have fun at gambling even though the result is that they lose rather than having to use a lot of money but they still experience losses but it is a lot of losses.
How can you know, though? There's no way to be 100% certain that a game is rigged; you cannot acquire the necessary evidence to prove that. I'm not quite sure if casinos would do that; some possibly would, but in my opinion, the scale tips in their favor; they're a business after all, and they need to make sure they're sustainable in order to stay afloat. Some games could possibly also have tiny percentage differences, making it not an exact 50/50 chance for the two parties. We're unsure how these games work and how they're developed; everything we say is based on pure assumptions. Gambling is entertaining and everything; however, it's 99% reliant on luck and human emotions, which casinos take advantage of.

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January 10, 2024, 10:27:49 PM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Well, the casino does not say that everyone who takes part in their gambling will be successful in their gambling. If a person wants to know even a little, he will immediately understand that the chance of winning is very small and it is very difficult to calculate anything. Playing in a casino should most likely be for fun if someone can get satisfaction from playing in a casino and losing money over and over again

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January 10, 2024, 11:14:13 PM
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... if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

It's not fraud its just how gambling works, gambling platforms are profit based platform they have an edge over all the players that's playing but that does not mean that no one wins in their platform, its just that there are more losers than winners.
A casino cannot be competitive if their data shows no one wins in their platform, people will verify every bets and see if they are accurate.
You are not supposed to make gambling in casinos as a day job, its an entertainment platform with a chance to make money while enjoying the game, the word here is chance not make.
So its better to forget about your projected winning and just enjoy the game, and if you're lucky you'll win the jackpot, luck and winnings comes when you least expect it, so enjoy and let winnings comes it will come when it will come.

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