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January 12, 2024, 04:25:13 AM
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Gambling makes people addicted, those who gamble are now addicted to gambling. And there are many who gamble for fun, common jackpots people participate in because of the temptation that once luck opens, the future will surely be good. I have seen many online acquaintances participate in the jackpot and they always participate in the jackpot. I have usually hit the jackpot twice but never managed to win. That's why now I gamble 4-5 days a week and retire the rest of the days.

If we gamble too often and cannot control ourselves in the gambling we play, it is very likely that we will experience an addiction to gambling and will also have financial problems, because there is very little chance of winning continuously in gambling, so it would be better if we gamble We must be able to control ourselves in gambling, because if we cannot control ourselves then this will be very detrimental to us.
When we have won in gambling and we cannot enjoy the victory, of course this really makes us miserable because of our greed in the gambling we play.

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January 12, 2024, 04:42:49 AM
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Gambling makes people addicted, those who gamble are now addicted to gambling. And there are many who gamble for fun, common jackpots people participate in because of the temptation that once luck opens, the future will surely be good. I have seen many online acquaintances participate in the jackpot and they always participate in the jackpot. I have usually hit the jackpot twice but never managed to win. That's why now I gamble 4-5 days a week and retire the rest of the days.


Gambling doesn’t make people addicted, rather people are the one who get addicted to gambling. A whole lot of people today gamble and are responsible about it too. Addiction doesn’t emerge just cause you gamble. Compulsive gambling on the other hand, often done by irresponsible gamblers could get such gamblers addicted in no time. You mentioned it yourself. There are folks who gamble for fun. Surely those folks aren’t addicts.

It’s crazy that people would rather seek to fault gambling for their financial woes and willfully ignore their roles in it all.
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January 12, 2024, 04:49:55 AM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
Is it that hard for you to understand? The house has a capital for rewards so say they've put in a capital of 500k USD and that's their jackpot prize now they can price their tickets or the plays on that particular game to about 2 USD and people will think that it's such a cheap price to play and have a chance to win that much, now if there's 500k people that thinks this way then they're netting a 1m USD profit and in that process, the jackpot might not still even been won by any because the casinos are the ones that's setting it up so the chances of winning is so low. Gambling isn't a fraud but rigging your games so no one wins, is a fraud, gambling is a business at heart, it supplies the demand of the people to take risks.
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January 12, 2024, 04:59:52 AM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
Is it that hard for you to understand? The house has a capital for rewards so say they've put in a capital of 500k USD and that's their jackpot prize now they can price their tickets or the plays on that particular game to about 2 USD and people will think that it's such a cheap price to play and have a chance to win that much, now if there's 500k people that thinks this way then they're netting a 1m USD profit and in that process, the jackpot might not still even been won by any because the casinos are the ones that's setting it up so the chances of winning is so low. Gambling isn't a fraud but rigging your games so no one wins, is a fraud, gambling is a business at heart, it supplies the demand of the people to take risks.
Yep I agree, casino is a business and business is something that can generate profits from their product or services. If the casino is honest and true, their business isn't fraud given that they made games that can profitable to them and offers a chance of winning money from them. In fact there are other businesses that are also taking advantage of their users, one example of it are social media sites where company sells our datas. It's a bit unethical right? But it is their business model and we as a user had agreed with their terms and condition before using their platform.

There are just people who fails to understand that casinos are businesses, they are also trying to make money but on a way that other people wouldn't do.

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January 12, 2024, 08:54:21 AM
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These games seem to benefit the house; casinos aren't established on luck, right? I often think about how games give the impression of control. Players are told their strategy or choice matters, but do they? An atmosphere structured for profit creates a false sense of control. There's another perspective. Human nature, as you said, is important. Risk and reward attract us, right? The excitement of what if, a prospective win. Isn't this our evolutionary instinct, which helped our ancestors survive? Our nature may be manipulated in this complicated psychology-business relationship. Isn't awareness the first step to change

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January 12, 2024, 10:57:22 AM
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Gambling makes people addicted, those who gamble are now addicted to gambling. And there are many who gamble for fun, common jackpots people participate in because of the temptation that once luck opens, the future will surely be good. I have seen many online acquaintances participate in the jackpot and they always participate in the jackpot. I have usually hit the jackpot twice but never managed to win. That's why now I gamble 4-5 days a week and retire the rest of the days.

If we gamble too often and cannot control ourselves in the gambling we play, it is very likely that we will experience an addiction to gambling and will also have financial problems, because there is very little chance of winning continuously in gambling, so it would be better if we gamble We must be able to control ourselves in gambling, because if we cannot control ourselves then this will be very detrimental to us.
When we have won in gambling and we cannot enjoy the victory, of course this really makes us miserable because of our greed in the gambling we play.

Gambling is one of the activities that should not be taken seriously, you can only play a little there and without putting expectations on winning but unfortunately most gamblers experience differently, which on the contrary, their arrival at gambling involvement is driven by the opportunity to win so I think that's what makes gamblers almost difficult to control their gambling activities until finally they suddenly and unconsciously enter the addiction phase and experience many financial problems.

The percentage of winning is much smaller than the risk of losing, one of the reasons is because this is a profitable business for casinos, or that means the bookie establishes casinos to make a profit, that's why many gamblers experience a dominating defeat if they are too frequent or serious in this activity by making many attempts to pursue victory, basically it won't be that easy because the casino is the one who regulates everything, and maybe you will only be able to win when you are really lucky, nothing more than that. It is for this reason why it is very important to apply self-control as you said, lest we do something that should not be done, or the intention is to increase the risk that we cannot be responsible for such as applying greed and ending up with regret.

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January 12, 2024, 11:01:47 AM
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These games seem to benefit the house; casinos aren't established on luck, right? I often think about how games give the impression of control. Players are told their strategy or choice matters, but do they? An atmosphere structured for profit creates a false sense of control. There's another perspective. Human nature, as you said, is important. Risk and reward attract us, right? The excitement of what if, a prospective win. Isn't this our evolutionary instinct, which helped our ancestors survive? Our nature may be manipulated in this complicated psychology-business relationship. Isn't awareness the first step to change
Casinos are established for the purpose of making a profit from losing gamblers so if gamblers want to make money, they should not seek it from gambling because they will end up losing a lot. Gambling does not deceive the gamblers but because of the gamblers greed which causes them to experience large losses and lose their money. And unfortunately, many gamblers don't realize this and instead try to keep winning. The human nature of wanting to win a lot makes them fall deeper into gambling, causing problems such as bankruptcy, broken homes, and even the worst, gambling addiction. That is why we must have awareness and self-control so that we don't get too deep into gambling and can stop ourselves at the right time so we don't experience these problems.

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January 12, 2024, 03:09:25 PM
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These games seem to benefit the house; casinos aren't established on luck, right? I often think about how games give the impression of control. Players are told their strategy or choice matters, but do they? An atmosphere structured for profit creates a false sense of control. There's another perspective. Human nature, as you said, is important. Risk and reward attract us, right? The excitement of what if, a prospective win. Isn't this our evolutionary instinct, which helped our ancestors survive? Our nature may be manipulated in this complicated psychology-business relationship. Isn't awareness the first step to change

the phrase: "the house always wins" is a phrase that describes the reality of the situation that has happened in games of chance and this has to do with mathematics, more precisely it has to do with probability, casino games are provably fair games, which It means there is no fraud. but in those games, the higher the chosen multiplier, the greater the probability of the person losing a lot and the casino winning a lot, but if the person manages to get it right, then they will win a lot. This means that if someone wants to win a lot of money in casino games, then that person should place higher multipliers and accept that they will lose on most spins. This is part of the game and both sides take risks during each section of the games

casinos take risks when people place high multipliers because if people are lucky enough to get it right, they win a lot of money and obviously if a lot of people are winning a lot of money in the casino, then only casino profits would reduce a lot, on the other side people When they place high multipliers they risk losing a lot consecutively and may not be lucky enough to hit that high multiplier. So, like I said, both sides take a big risk. about whether or not people are in control of the situation, in my opinion they are not. when people play games that depend on luck to get it right

So people just need to click on start and wait for the result, they have no way of influencing the outcome of the game, they have no way of creating any strategy for games that depend on luck. The same thing applies to games of chance that depend on skills, when people play a game like poker, they are playing against the computer or against another person, they are not absolutely sure that they will win using the strategy they have. So you have no control over the situation. In general, I would say that we all gamble counting on luck or hoping that our skills will bring us victories, but we have no guarantee that we will be able to make a profit in gambling

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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
It's a known fact that casino games favor the house and that the house always has higher chances of winning than the gambler and casinos or gambling platforms don't hide it, they say very clearly that there is a house edge and that gambling is a test of your luck where you can lose every bet if you are not lucky because the results are random and in that randomness, the house has an edge over the player, and it's the choice of the player if they want to make bets or not.

It's not true that no one wins anything in gambling because those who are lucky manage to win more than they lose. The best example of this is the recent post in the Gambling section where a user managed to win $42m from a $50 spin. I know that the amount he was spinning was high but not everyone managed to win such amounts in gambling.

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January 14, 2024, 04:06:54 PM
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These games seem to benefit the house; casinos aren't established on luck, right? I often think about how games give the impression of control. Players are told their strategy or choice matters, but do they? An atmosphere structured for profit creates a false sense of control. There's another perspective. Human nature, as you said, is important. Risk and reward attract us, right? The excitement of what if, a prospective win. Isn't this our evolutionary instinct, which helped our ancestors survive? Our nature may be manipulated in this complicated psychology-business relationship. Isn't awareness the first step to change
Casinos are established for the purpose of making a profit from losing gamblers so if gamblers want to make money, they should not seek it from gambling because they will end up losing a lot. Gambling does not deceive the gamblers but because of the gamblers greed which causes them to experience large losses and lose their money. And unfortunately, many gamblers don't realize this and instead try to keep winning. The human nature of wanting to win a lot makes them fall deeper into gambling, causing problems such as bankruptcy, broken homes, and even the worst, gambling addiction. That is why we must have awareness and self-control so that we don't get too deep into gambling and can stop ourselves at the right time so we don't experience these problems.

No party is getting deceived in this phycology-business relationship with a signed agreement. The gambler should play victim when the casino isn't complying to the agreement but shouldn't make things look otherwise if the fault comes from his, the player's, end. Casino takes responsibility when need arises as regards to the treatment of gamblers or complaints of different issues like withdrawal or deposit dispute. They don't leave it without solving the trouble. But gamblers allow their troubles to compile without looking into solving few of them. These signs visit every gambler, some solve it while few more wouldn't care about the troubles. The need to know how they feel about themselves since they started gambling, is required in regulating the thoughts of gamblers.

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January 14, 2024, 04:24:55 PM
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I believe that a lot of things depend on people's viewpoints and experiences, especially for gamblers like you who may believe that gambling is a scam. Since you just expressed your opinions, I recognize that you have a point of view, and I cannot hold you for expressing it.
 Well gambling with fraud usually involves the use of manipulation or dishonesty for one's own benefit. For instance, occasionally unfair gambling practices, like as rigged games, may be used. Additionally, dubious advertising and false information may be used to deceive customers, especially those who are new to the gambling field.

In my perspective, gambling is a respectable business activity as long as it is carried out in compliance with the law. Similar to how it entails taking chances and giving people the chance to have fun with the possibility of winning money.
It makes sense that there are risks associated with gambling, and that the house usually has the better chances. It was the reckless gamblers' fault that they may develop an addiction to gambling due to their false belief that they would win the big prize even though they consistently lose.
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January 15, 2024, 02:42:25 PM
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Cool down. Maybe you are just mad after a bad losing streak. Cheesy
Well, they are all rigged wherever you go because it isn't charity. And, if they keep the game clean, they are going to be bankrupt. This is a business brother and it ain't going to be easy to win against them.
Now, all we have is an opportunity, just one chance to get a good multi win then we can get out. There are lots of stories of gamblers who already made some money because they coincidentally hit the jackpot by surprise. All we need is to find a gambling site that will really pay, a reputable one that will give those prizes as how it was said.
When it comes to winning, it will always be difficult, especially with casino games. But you always have options. Most online casinos now offer betting lines for sports, Esports, and other games that you could enjoy. So, pick your own poison but don't expect to make daily income from it. It's gambling, not a job.

No, not at all. I'm wondering, why are you saying this? There are many honest and reputable gambling sites, and Stake, the one you are working for, is one of them. There's no need to be rigged when you are openly stating that you have the advantage in the form of house edge, and that's what they are doing, that's how they make their money. They do keep the game clean, otherwise we shouldn't be playing on their sites and recommend it to others.

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January 15, 2024, 02:57:19 PM
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Cool down. Maybe you are just mad after a bad losing streak. Cheesy
Well, they are all rigged wherever you go because it isn't charity. And, if they keep the game clean, they are going to be bankrupt. This is a business brother and it ain't going to be easy to win against them.
Now, all we have is an opportunity, just one chance to get a good multi win then we can get out. There are lots of stories of gamblers who already made some money because they coincidentally hit the jackpot by surprise. All we need is to find a gambling site that will really pay, a reputable one that will give those prizes as how it was said.
When it comes to winning, it will always be difficult, especially with casino games. But you always have options. Most online casinos now offer betting lines for sports, Esports, and other games that you could enjoy. So, pick your own poison but don't expect to make daily income from it. It's gambling, not a job.

No, not at all. I'm wondering, why are you saying this? There are many honest and reputable gambling sites, and Stake, the one you are working for, is one of them. There's no need to be rigged when you are openly stating that you have the advantage in the form of house edge, and that's what they are doing, that's how they make their money. They do keep the game clean, otherwise we shouldn't be playing on their sites and recommend it to others.

I agree with the latter. Although it is true what danherbias07 said (if casinos played in the same conditions as gamblers, most of them would eventually go bankrupt), that's indeed also the reason why they must set a hedge in order to survive.

Legit casinos are not rigged: rigged casinos are those who cheat and behave illegally. It's the same with banks: they will always win money in the end, that's how it works, but only those who set illegal rates or write illegal clauses in their contracts are rigged.

Another thing is that you may not like banks, or casinos. In that case, you may not have an alternative to use banking services, but nobody is forced to gamble.

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January 15, 2024, 03:02:11 PM
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I believe that a lot of things depend on people's viewpoints and experiences, especially for gamblers like you who may believe that gambling is a scam. Since you just expressed your opinions, I recognize that you have a point of view, and I cannot hold you for expressing it.
 Well gambling with fraud usually involves the use of manipulation or dishonesty for one's own benefit. For instance, occasionally unfair gambling practices, like as rigged games, may be used. Additionally, dubious advertising and false information may be used to deceive customers, especially those who are new to the gambling field.

In my perspective, gambling is a respectable business activity as long as it is carried out in compliance with the law. Similar to how it entails taking chances and giving people the chance to have fun with the possibility of winning money.
It makes sense that there are risks associated with gambling, and that the house usually has the better chances. It was the reckless gamblers' fault that they may develop an addiction to gambling due to their false belief that they would win the big prize even though they consistently lose.

I agree with your words about gambling. Some people cheat or trick others in the gambling which can be bad for new gamblers. I think we should condemn and control these practices to keep people safe.
But I have a different opinion about gambling. I think it can be OK and fun as long as it follows the rules. It lets people take chances and maybe win money while having a good time. We need to remember that gambling is risky. It's important for people to gamble responsibly and not get addicted by thinking they will always win.

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I'm pretty sure most people knew that already but you know gambling is not something that guarantee you getting rich any way. But there's a reason they called it jackpot. You know gambling all about luck or that you might be lucky enough to hit the jackpot that can cover the funds gambling have eaten from you. Come to think of it if everyone is winning how will the casino pay? Through those losses, most casinos normally use to pay for others' wins. As long there's a winner they will always be losers.
The reason why jackpot winnings always come as a surprise to the jackpot winners is that they are already aware that winnings in any form of gambling are based on luck and not on skills or any other form of expertise,  and that is the reason why sometimes those jackpots are warned with the little amount in stake because the casino will have to sell several millions of ticket and refills where the winners will be drawn from, some time 59cent or little below $1 will be used as stake and you see that those winners will win millions of dollars as jackpots.
Some will even win an all-expense paid relocation to other countries such as the American lotteries, the lottery winners are given a huge package that comes way more than the cash price that alot of the jackpot for just one person, so I believe that those who buy those lottery tickets are already aware of the risk of losing outcome not being the lucky number for the jackpot prize.

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I agree with the latter. Although it is true what danherbias07 said (if casinos played in the same conditions as gamblers, most of them would eventually go bankrupt), that's indeed also the reason why they must set a hedge in order to survive.

Legit casinos are not rigged: rigged casinos are those who cheat and behave illegally. It's the same with banks: they will always win money in the end, that's how it works, but only those who set illegal rates or write illegal clauses in their contracts are rigged.

Another thing is that you may not like banks, or casinos. In that case, you may not have an alternative to use banking services, but nobody is forced to gamble.

Why? If conditions were exactly the same, it would be 50/50 and only 50% of the casinos would go bankrupt eventually, not most of them. But I think I know what you mean. The expenses on keeping the casino. Indeed, casinos wouldn't survive if conditions were the same because they would have to pay rents, salaries etc. and would go bankrupt eventually. That's why they need the house edge.

I'm wondering, can there be a casino that survives thanks to advertisers and keeps the house edge at zero?

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January 23, 2024, 12:34:27 PM
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So people just need to click on start and wait for the result, they have no way of influencing the outcome of the game, they have no way of creating any strategy for games that depend on luck. The same thing applies to games of chance that depend on skills, when people play a game like poker, they are playing against the computer or against another person, they are not absolutely sure that they will win using the strategy they have. So you have no control over the situation. In general, I would say that we all gamble counting on luck or hoping that our skills will bring us victories, but we have no guarantee that we will be able to make a profit in gambling
I agree with you, people who gamble online they just need to click and wait for the results to continue until the end point of winning or losing. And I think that no one can have a way to influence the course of gambling, although there are also those who believe in patterns, tricks and strategies to get victory, but I myself do not believe in it. Because as you said for games that depend on luck alone this does not apply.

That's right, although gambling that requires skills to win in my opinion luck also still plays a role, the skills possessed can increase the chances of winning, but that does not mean that you can completely get a win or really win. The profit in gambling cannot be predicted accurately, this indicates that luck has a big role.

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January 23, 2024, 12:48:02 PM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
Human nature can be arranged to become better, from greedy to simpler, from greedy to wiser.
Humans who continue to pursue their desires will never be satisfied even in all types of activities they undertake, including gambling games.
Gambling is not a means to get rich, people should know this, but they don't care because their minds continue to show big money not as a place to test their luck and as a place to have fun.

Responsible gamblers who understand this, if you are not a responsible gambler, then you will never consider gambling as a place to entertain yourself.

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January 23, 2024, 01:28:14 PM
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No party is getting deceived in this phycology-business relationship with a signed agreement. The gambler should play victim when the casino isn't complying to the agreement but shouldn't make things look otherwise if the fault comes from his, the player's, end. Casino takes responsibility when need arises as regards to the treatment of gamblers or complaints of different issues like withdrawal or deposit dispute. They don't leave it without solving the trouble. But gamblers allow their troubles to compile without looking into solving few of them. These signs visit every gambler, some solve it while few more wouldn't care about the troubles. The need to know how they feel about themselves since they started gambling, is required in regulating the thoughts of gamblers.
Gamblers should check the casino before registering if they do not want to become victims of unfair circumstances. However, gamblers who do not pay attention to this will become victims of casino scams and will not be able to solve their problems because the casino is a scam casino. And if that happens, these gamblers will feel the misery of gambling without being able to hope to solve the problem. That is why gamblers should not use gambling beyond their limits and must be able to regulate their mindset so they can control themselves when gambling. If they succeed, they can reduce their money losses and only try to enjoy gambling as entertainment.

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January 23, 2024, 03:21:30 PM
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Gamblers should check the casino before registering if they do not want to become victims of unfair circumstances.
They deserved to receive that, how can someone blindly use a service without looking to the reputation and it's disadvantages. Most people should be familiar with the technology since the pandemic forces people to use it, there's no excuse to not check the site's credibility.

That's right, although gambling that requires skills to win in my opinion luck also still plays a role, the skills possessed can increase the chances of winning, but that does not mean that you can completely get a win or really win. The profit in gambling cannot be predicted accurately, this indicates that luck has a big role.
There was a thread Am I being restricted? where the @OP claimed he get restricted, but he's consistently making money by playing Blackjack. Most people will lose, but few of them might able to success.



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