Inquiry

[Hasslong]

If I get out of exchange  send BTC to my address say A1 , so the exchange suppose  know my address A1 and kyc   , how can I remove the Bitcoin. From the address A1 without tracing it , I know there are coinjoin and etc but how can be assure that I have not any  MORE connection to the above mentioned address A1

NOTE I AM NOT TECHINICAL BUT I TRY TO UNDERSTAND

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[AB de Royse777]

If I get out of exchange  send BTC to my address say A1 , so the exchange suppose  know my address A1 and kyc   , how can I remove the Bitcoin. From the address A1 without tracing it , I know there are coinjoin and etc but how can be assure that I have not any  MORE connection to the above mentioned address A1

NOTE I AM NOT TECHINICAL BUT I TRY TO UNDERSTAND

You will never. know These days there are blockchain analysis tools which can trace an address back. As a user you can ensure that you make their job harder. Mix it once, then twice or even thrice if needed.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

If I get out of exchange  send BTC to my address say A1 , so the exchange suppose  know my address A1 and kyc   , how can I remove the Bitcoin. From the address A1 without tracing it , I know there are coinjoin and etc but how can be assure that I have not any  MORE connection to the above mentioned address A1

When you KYCed on a centralized exchange, you are doxed and your identity is known by that exchange and even any third party company that partnered with the exchange to verify your KYC documents.

The exchange and the third party company can leak your data on Internet or submit it to IRS. Risk of data breach or law enforcement against you is not small.

You can not use Bitcoin as your mean to move your money from that account, it will be traced. Use Monero by selling your Bitcoin to Monero. Move that Monero to a non KYC exchange and sell Monero.

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[Charles-Tim]

The exchange is a KYC exchange. That means there is no way you can block the trace. As long as you have the coin on the exchange, it can be linked to you even if you later mix it using a mixer or coinjoin.

The best you can do is to sell the coin on the exchange and make use of decentralized exchange to buy the coin. Then you can mix or coin it if you want.

But it would be perfect if you do not make use of centralized exchange at all. Make use of decentralized exchange.

[ABCbits]

If I get out of exchange  send BTC to my address say A1 , so the exchange suppose  know my address A1 and kyc   , how can I remove the Bitcoin. From the address A1 without tracing it , I know there are coinjoin and etc but how can be assure that I have not any  MORE connection to the above mentioned address A1

NOTE I AM NOT TECHINICAL BUT I TRY TO UNDERSTAND

First of all, there's no thing such as absolute privacy or anonymity. So while there are ways which try to break link between A1 and other Bitcoin address you own (i'll call it A2), there's always possibility someone can make link between A2 and A1. For example, amount sent from A1 and amount received by A2 is extremely close within short time interval.

[Marvelman]

For one thing, don't even buy your coins on some KYC exchange that's gonna have all your info.  Start doing business with vendors who don't ask questions, like decentralized exchanges.   

Theres no 100% guarantee you'll stay anonymous completely - but the more you mix and scramble every step of the way the better your chances if you ask me.  Just comes down to how much effort you wanna put in versus how off-the-grid you wanna be.

[o_e_l_e_o]

There are two main options to anonymize your bitcoin.

The first is mentioned above, and is to swap it for monero. Use one of the peer to peer exchanges or automatic swap services listed here: https://kycnot.me/search?q=&type=exchange&xmr=on&btc=on. Swap it to monero, move that monero around to a couple of different wallets at different times, and then swap that monero back to bitcoin in different amounts in to different wallets using different exchanges/services.

The second is to use the Whirlpool coinjoin implementation via a wallet such as Samourai or Sparrow. You'll need to be running your own node first, though.

However, with both of these options, the centralized exchange in question will still have a record of how much bitcoin you purchased linked to your KYC. Although they might not be able to track what you do with your bitcoin, they will still know you have it. If you want to remove this link altogether, then your only option is to send the bitcoin back to the exchange in question, sell it, withdraw your fiat, and then take your fiat to one of the peer to peer exchanges at https://kycnot.me/ and buy fresh non-KYCed bitcoin.

[Alpha Marine]

This is a big disadvantage of using a centralized exchange, your information stays with them forever, whether you keep using them or not.
When I got my first Bitcoin, it was through a centralized exchange. I was a newbie then, but even then I was skeptical of KYC but I didn't know any other alternatives then. I have trust issues.

When I knew about the alternatives, I abandoned the address linked to the exchange and bought through PSP using a different address. I've not had anything to do with centralized exchanges and KYC again since then.

[NotATether]

If I get out of exchange  send BTC to my address say A1 , so the exchange suppose  know my address A1 and kyc   , how can I remove the Bitcoin. From the address A1 without tracing it , I know there are coinjoin and etc but how can be assure that I have not any  MORE connection to the above mentioned address A1

The transaction to A1 links it with all your activity on that particular exchange, so the only way you can prevent more transactions from A1 from being connected to the chain is by

A) send them to a Monero swapper, and then sell the Monero somewhere else (works because XMR is untraceable)
B) send them to Wasabi Wallet or Samourai for coinjoins
C) Use a mixer (but be careful not to fall for a phishing site).

There is a fourth option, selling it for cash at a P2P marketplace and then buy coins from somewhere else. But face-to-face cash exchanges are risky.

[MFahad]

There are two main options to anonymize your bitcoin.

The first is mentioned above, and is to swap it for monero. Use one of the peer to peer exchanges or automatic swap services listed here: https://kycnot.me/search?q=&type=exchange&xmr=on&btc=on. Swap it to monero, move that monero around to a couple of different wallets at different times, and then swap that monero back to bitcoin in different amounts in to different wallets using different exchanges/services.

The second is to use the Whirlpool coinjoin implementation via a wallet such as Samourai or Sparrow. You'll need to be running your own node first, though.

However, with both of these options, the centralized exchange in question will still have a record of how much bitcoin you purchased linked to your KYC. Although they might not be able to track what you do with your bitcoin, they will still know you have it. If you want to remove this link altogether, then your only option is to send the bitcoin back to the exchange in question, sell it, withdraw your fiat, and then take your fiat to one of the peer to peer exchanges at https://kycnot.me/ and buy fresh non-KYCed bitcoin.

The First Method actually sounds very good. but wouldn't that work directly with Bitcoin too, without swapping them into Bitcoin? but a little bit differently, Lets Say:
Sell your Bitcoin via p2p for cash from a platform. if the exchange OP mentioned is Binance then that should be even more easier, than buying Bitcoin again using cash from another source. don't use any platform with KYC. I think Bitcoin talk would be best for a second buy here he can use an escrow. only that escrow would know his new wallet. which I think is a lot safer than an exchange knowing that and probably a govt also knowing that.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Sell your Bitcoin via p2p for cash from a platform.

This can work. Cash used properly can be untraceable, just like monero. However, it is much harder to organize and perform anonymous bitcoin/cash trades than it is to perform anonymous bitcoin/monero trades.

if the exchange OP mentioned is Binance then that should be even more easier

There is absolutely nothing private or anonymous about Binance. Their so called "P2P" function is not peer to peer at all since Binance acts as a trusted middleman, and as such can complete monitor and surveil all your activities.

[Pmalek]

First of all, there's no thing such as absolute privacy or anonymity. So while there are ways which try to break link between A1 and other Bitcoin address you own (i'll call it A2), there's always possibility someone can make link between A2 and A1. For example, amount sent from A1 and amount received by A2 is extremely close within short time interval.

The work of blockchain analysis revolves mostly around guesswork and playing the "this is more probable card." If you move BTC from a KYC-ed exchange, there is no doubt that the address you transferred the coins to is somehow connected to you. Now, it doesn't have to be your address. You might have sent the coins to someone else or paid for a service. But what's important is that they (the exchange and blockchain analysis) will have no doubt that the coins were moved by you. Unless we are talking about a hacking incident.

If you move the coins to a service to be mixed, they will lose the trace if you do it smartly. I am not sure how much into detail I am allowed to go with the new rule change, but let's just say that no one is forcing you to withdraw the whole amount in one transaction or do it immediately after a finished mixing session. The coins can be withdrawn in chunks and days or weeks after being mixed. 

Of course, with all the congestion that's been happening for months now, these anonymization steps can become costly. It's up to everyone to decide how much they are willing to pay for it.