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January 19, 2024, 11:55:47 AM |
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I often see people posts like don't teach others when you are a newbie. This is an absurd word in my dictionary. People like Powerglove or n0nce has far more better knowledge than some legendary members who has earned two thousands merits. So, what is wrong if a newbie try to correct you?
I am beginning to also think that the word is not supposed to be used generally for all newbies because of how knowledgeable some of them can be. The words can be rephrased so that they are only directed at newbies who have no prior knowledge of the forum or bitcoin but want to teach others. I have also seen low ranked members that when they comment in some posts I'm awed by how they give detail solution to those posts, such low rank members (newbies, jnr members) are definitely not a novice in the crypto space, but to this forum they are and as such they are to teach others rather than them being taught because of the ample knowledge they already have about bitcoin.
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Learn Bitcoin (OP)
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January 20, 2024, 09:20:33 AM |
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Yeah. Sometimes some newbies pretend like they know many things and correct others with wrong information. But there are always some active members who check topics and posts and usually correct others with the right information. It's not true that only newbies give wrong/incorrect information. Sometimes we make mistakes as well. I did not understand how the activity system worked for a long time. I needed to spend a couple of weeks asking questions via private message to other members to understand how it works. Some high-rank members don't know how the trust system works, how DT voting works (I have doubts too), and how the feedback system works. Even some DT members left incorrect feedback and that is why the DT network is still questionable. I have been in the forum for over a year and if a 6 month old member could explain me how the DT voting works, I don't see any problem. Because they paid attention to it and I didn't. It's not his mistake to know more than how much I know.
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January 21, 2024, 06:43:01 PM |
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There are many new forum users who already know a lot about cryptocurrency and bitcoin forums. But they didn't account on the forum. Now opening a new account they describe the details. So we should all talk to newcomers with respect. Also there are many other forum users who are new to bitcoin forum. So basically we think they are new but they are very old veterans.
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Samlucky O
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January 23, 2024, 03:41:44 AM |
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To me a newbie is a novice who is new to any system and knows nothing about it. In novice we have different types , Newbie with experience 1. Newbie with knowledge and understanding who is quick to understand anything and make good use of it. 2. Newbie which is granded in cryptocurrency but has not yet find a place like BTT. 3. Newbie but member of the forum, but was ban and started with a new ACC or also a newbie under alt ACC. Newbie without experience 1. Newbie which just come to the forum and want to quickly rank up, without learning anything but keep creating thread to gain attraction. Sturbon newbie without experience and don't want to learn 1. Newbie that thinks he/she has no guider. who thinks that here is a place where they can do how it pleases them, and nobody will question them to what dey do and how they make post. They also are newbie that seems stubborn and can't be controlled by any body without knowing that such thing might hinder there progress here.
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Learn Bitcoin (OP)
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March 01, 2024, 01:14:00 PM |
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There are many new forum users who already know a lot about cryptocurrency and bitcoin forums. But they didn't account on the forum. Now opening a new account they describe the details. So we should all talk to newcomers with respect. Also there are many other forum users who are new to bitcoin forum. So basically we think they are new but they are very old veterans.
You are one of the examples. You have been in this forum since 2013 yet your forum rank is Member. Now, if someone thinks that the user is completely new, it will be their mistake. There are a lot of forum members who haven't been on this forum, but they know many things about Bitcoin that some of the legendary members don't know. The problem is, that some new members start to teach other newbies about the forum. If they teach each other about technical things, then it should be okay. But, when you see that a newbie teach other about how this forum works, then they could be alt account.
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March 01, 2024, 01:30:26 PM |
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There are many new forum users who already know a lot about cryptocurrency and bitcoin forums. But they didn't account on the forum. Now opening a new account they describe the details. So we should all talk to newcomers with respect. Also there are many other forum users who are new to bitcoin forum. So basically we think they are new but they are very old veterans.
You are one of the examples. You have been in this forum since 2013 yet your forum rank is Member. Now, if someone thinks that the user is completely new, it will be their mistake. There are a lot of forum members who haven't been on this forum, but they know many things about Bitcoin that some of the legendary members don't know. The problem is, that some new members start to teach other newbies about the forum. If they teach each other about technical things, then it should be okay. But, when you see that a newbie teach other about how this forum works, then they could be alt account. I actually don’t have issues newbies educating these higher rank positions in the forum regardless of any topic. They have all the means to do that since this forum is not limited only to higher rank members to teach lower positions. As long as they are stating facts and they are giving us relevant information, then I think that will do more good to us. Meanwhile, it’s also our obligation to evaluate those information we perceived if they’re legit or not. Otherwise, it’s a shame for us if we cannot differentiate those right from wrong information, which I think even newbies are capable of doing that through doing extended researches outside the forum.
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March 02, 2024, 03:59:32 AM |
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I actually don’t have issues newbies educating these higher rank positions in the forum regardless of any topic. They have all the means to do that since this forum is not limited only to higher rank members to teach lower positions. As long as they are stating facts and they are giving us relevant information, then I think that will do more good to us. I also do not have a problem if a newbie corrects me. But, some people do not accept this from newbies. If they see something knowledgable from a newbie account, they say it's an alt account. Someone is hiding behind this account. But, why don't they understand that newbie is just a forum rank and nothing else? Someone could be new in this forum, but that does not mean that they are new in everything. Their argument could be, well, they are not new in crypto, but they are new in this forum, then how do they know about old forum events? Well, do you think someone has to spend over a year to know some historical forum events? I don't think so. If someone spends a lot of time exploring the forum, it may take only a few weeks to learn about the forum events.
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March 02, 2024, 03:24:15 PM |
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I don't know if this is the proper section to post it. I feel like MetaBoard will be a good fit for this topic. But, let's begin.
My question is: who is a newbie and how long they should be considered as a newbie? I would love to give you some options and examples.
First one: A user with a very old registration date but made only a couple of posts, but did not earn merit to rank up and his login time is around 10 hours or so.
Second one: A user who registered two months ago and spent 7 days login time and earned around 250 merits in the last 60 days and made 500 posts.
Third one: A user who has been there for six months and spent 25 days login time but made only a hundred posts but his rank is member or Jr. member.
You should keep in mind that a user's rank is a newbie here, but maybe he was a member of another forum like hacks forum, craked forum, or nulled forum. Maybe they have dip knowledge of coding or other sectors. Now, who should be considered a newbie, and how long would you consider him as a newbie and why?
I often see people posts like don't teach others when you are a newbie. This is an absurd word in my dictionary. People like Powerglove or n0nce has far more better knowledge than some legendary members who has earned two thousands merits. So, what is wrong if a newbie try to correct you?
It really depends on the person, Newbie is just a rank shown when you create an account, but the thing is that is are you a actually newbie, what is I am trying to say is that, this forum is not the only place to learn about cryptocurrency or bitcoin. If you already know a lot about crypto and bitcoin, and you just make an account, your account actually show newbie but you are not, You happened to know all the things before this. maybe you just got familiar with this forum. So you are not called a newbie. because you know a lot about a lot of things you may see in this forum. On the other hand, Someone who just got familiar with bitcoin and cryptocurrency, at the same time you also heard about bitcointalk, So he makes an account on the forum, he doesn't know anything yet, doesn't know what is bitcoin, doesn't know what is cryptocurrencty, as he spends time on this forum, starts to learn and gain knowlegde about this forum and bitcoin and cryptocurrency gradually starts to rank up. he is called a actual newbie.
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AnonBitCoiner
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March 02, 2024, 06:04:44 PM |
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That isn't what everyone thinks or says about newbies unless they find something suspicious about them or their activities. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Allegations are only put if there are hints seen by the members about the newbie in question. Otherwise, it's not something unique for a user with a newbie rank having vast knowledge about certain things including cryptocurrencies and the forum. It would be foolish for someone to blame someone for being an alt just because they have knowledge and they understand the forum because as you stated, it's not rocket science, anyone spending some time in the forum reading everything can learn a lot of things about it.
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March 02, 2024, 06:36:14 PM |
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First one: A user with a very old registration date but made only a couple of posts, but did not earn merit to rank up and his login time is around 10 hours or so.
Second one: A user who registered two months ago and spent 7 days login time and earned around 250 merits in the last 60 days and made 500 posts.
Third one: A user who has been there for six months and spent 25 days login time but made only a hundred posts but his rank is member or Jr. member.
I won’t measure the extent of newbie with any of the examples you’ve given above. A newbie is beyond all this you’ve made examples with and looking at this your examples deeply, we might find none as newbie in this category and just find out that it is just a tag to their name that was given to them by the forum and nothing much. You should keep in mind that a user's rank is a newbie here, but maybe he was a member of another forum like hacks forum, craked forum, or nulled forum. Maybe they have dip knowledge of coding or other sectors. Now, who should be considered a newbie, and how long would you consider him as a newbie and why?
A newbie should just be a name attached to a user when they come new to the forum and not on how well knowledge they’ve had about cryptocurrency. We vary on how we are able to learn and assimilate fast when we are new into a place. A user can still have a newbie tag and would have gathered more knowledge than the person having a full member or senior member rank. The knowledge a user has about bitcoin and cryptocurrency should be what they use to describe such user when they come across their post and not their rank. A person will continue to be a newbie to me until they’re able to understand the concept of bitcoin technology and can confidently teach others when they go wrong on it. I often see people posts like don't teach others when you are a newbie. This is an absurd word in my dictionary. People like Powerglove or n0nce has far more better knowledge than some legendary members who has earned two thousands merits. So, what is wrong if a newbie try to correct you?
There is this general impression in almost everyone’s mind that when a user is still having the tag newbie on their profile, that means they have no knowledge of bitcoin or cryptocurrencies, so they should try as much as possible to learn first before trying to teach others about what they don’t know or just have little knowledge about. Not all newbies are actually that and some of them are just joining the forum which everyone in their first time have to beat for sometime before they begin to rank up. A users post overtime can tell whether they’re actually a newbie to the forum or a newbie to cryptocurrency. When you see such users post in the forum, you can tell which type of newbies they are.
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March 03, 2024, 05:08:00 AM |
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That isn't what everyone thinks or says about newbies unless they find something suspicious about them or their activities. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Allegations are only put if there are hints seen by the members about the newbie in question. Otherwise, it's not something unique for a user with a newbie rank having vast knowledge about certain things including cryptocurrencies and the forum. I am not talking about everyone. I am talking about a group of people who always talk to newbies like they are everything here and newbies do not know anything. If newbies start to write something logical and express how deep knowledge they have about Bitcoin or the forum, some of them think it's definitely an alt account. Let's talk to me about myself. I have some boards on my tracked board list and I always get notifications when new threads get created. In the last few months, I have responded to some threads and done some transactions with forum users. But, another forum member thinks I am farming trust and it's pre-planned. These people's always find something negative about others.
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March 03, 2024, 11:54:08 AM |
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You should keep in mind that a user's rank is a newbie here, but maybe he was a member of another forum like hacks forum, craked forum, or nulled forum. Maybe they have dip knowledge of coding or other sectors. Now, who should be considered a newbie, and how long would you consider him as a newbie and why?
I think you are right, because all the people who are talking or sharing their real experience in this forum are skilled people in one way or another. Some may be experienced in gaming, some in economics, some in trading etc. Many newbies have great experience in the crypto space but some people tend to look down on them. I would like to give an opinion that newbies can never be disrespected they can also have great writing in this forum. We should be go on forward.
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March 04, 2024, 11:39:41 AM |
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I think you are right, because all the people who are talking or sharing their real experience in this forum are skilled people in one way or another. Some may be experienced in gaming, some in economics, some in trading etc. Many newbies have great experience in the crypto space but some people tend to look down on them. I would like to give an opinion that newbies can never be disrespected they can also have great writing in this forum. We should be go on forward.
I agree with that. But, as I said in my other posts, there are some exceptions as well. Some newbies try to teach others when their own basic is not correct. That's why sometimes they get criticized. But, should we criticize all of them just because of minority number of people? I don't think we should. People should write where are expert. If you are expert in economic, you should write in that section. I do not see any problem when a person write in other section where they are not expert. They should not try to teach something that they don't know about. Some of us don't even know what we are trying to say. LOL.
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March 04, 2024, 09:09:13 PM |
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I think it’s all coming from the rank name on the forum. If we had these names called things like “Bronze, Gold, Diamond, etc” people wouldn’t really get the feel that a newbie is trying to correct me. For me I respect everyone because you never really know if you could learn from them. Most of the people who join this forum aren’t actually newbies, they just weren’t on the forum and now want to be a part of it. I just think we should be kind in how we relate to people.
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March 04, 2024, 09:14:48 PM |
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In this case it is complicated because everyone knows who is a beginner and who is not a beginner but in normal circumstances you can said that a beginner in cryptocurrency generally or in Bitcoin in particular is someone who does not know anything that concerns Bitcoin but he really have a passion into it. Sometimes when you see a numerous offtopic that is being discussed in this forum, it becomes as a result of unable to understand the system before venturing into cryptocurrency investment or bitcoin investment. The discussion or conversation of a beginner is different from someone who knows the rudiment of cryptocurrency so it beginner in someone who want to know of cryptocurrency and the is ready to learn that is a particular people that is called a newbie.
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As far as I know to me a newbie is a person who just signed up and have never moved to the next rank meaning we are just justifying that person based on his or her rank but when a user is dedicated and committed also knowns what he his doing then such person is not a newbie because, he already gained the knowledge but his rank is what limiting him or her from not becoming a higher ranked member.
Furthermore, ranks doesn't determines whether you are newbie or not, your knowledge is what defines you to either be newbie or not that is why when they keeps telling newbies not to do some certain things it gets me weird why because I know very that such person can be a guru in that field but since he or they recently join here newly people would see them as armature or someone who doesn't know what they are doing that is why sometimes when they are posting I do give them and interact with them to learn some different things from the because I believe that not everyone has overall knowledge concerning some certain things.
Giving them space and time to express themselves also shows that we are practicing what the forum is advertising or saying about, which is just freedom for you and I to do whatever thing we wish to do irrespective we are not doing the wrong thing at the wrong time. Rather we should do the right thing at the right time. In nutshell everyone has the right to say whatever thing they have to say, it is left for the user to decides whether they are saying is right or wrong hence requires you to go make your personal findings and if you discovers that what they are passing on to the forum is wrong is then you can also stand a better chance to have them corrected as well.
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Just my views If I am asked to define newbie:: is a person new to this forum.
In correcting others or airing of views, it should be seen based on that person not newbies generally. Since being new here doesn't mean new to crypto and other areas of expertise.
Some might find it hard to receive reviews or rethink (I don't want to say correction). Doing without bias is important in this case so that if a person makes an outstanding point it should be seen for that not be ignored because he or she is a newbie.
In one time or the other we are being reminded of even things we knew. You can imagine that...
Although the statistics of new people without crypto knowledge might be higher when compared to others with the crypto knowhow. But this cannot be a yardstick to use when a newbie proffers their views. Since learning is on going here and outside.
For new people with crypto knowledge being new here could just be to know about the forum, that means they can give good crypto advice. Others must have doubled their learning of btc to also be able to make a valid point.
I believe that by implication, this matter is not different from every day life.. We stand to be guided aright or corrected as the the need be irrespective of membership level. That makes the whole thing centered on the person not the general membership level...
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