Drug (cocaine) addicts compromises gambling potentials

[EluguHcman]

The thread might be lengthy but please "exercise that your investors demanded "patient" if you must achieve valuably along the runs".

A hard drugs (cocaine) addict from Nigeria who has a laundry (wash/dry cleaning shop) for source of his financial needs sustainability is verified to had advanced in his intake of his drugs addiction. To certain point he was not financially stable to purchase the drugs as his usual. While he had learnt about gambling as means of profitablity, he though it was to be so flexible and easy as that to bet and win to he could gain and further purchase the hard drugs or his addictions.
He was attracted to the sport betting after winning in some certain stakes while visiting the bet shop but as time goes, maybe he needed a relaxation to comfortably place his bet in his privacy which triggered him to download and registered on the online gambling sports casino. He had made more counts of losts than his winnings and yet could not take control of his emotions simply because he has a goal of desperacy in chasing profits in the gambling board just to gain some money and afford himself the drugs.
He was no more concentration on his laundry business til he ran out of cash to place more stake which to him to sell laundry accessories so he could fund his online gambling wallet account. And he ignorantly submitted himself to the gambling without realizing how his life is being ruined after countless times his has lost his stakes without a given countable profits any more in drugs addicts, his laundry and so on his gambling habitual ignorantic addition too.

This has attracted to a reminder referencing individuals whom had suicidedly lost their lives, those whom had countlessly lossed their valuables, those whom had been indebted and the atrociousnesses which has indicted individuals because of gambling.
This has also called on the aifs of a political and a social influencer calling to the attentions of the president of Nigeria to bring an end and cut off the accessibilities access to online sport betting in the country in other to main a better orderliness in the society because the states of miles Nigerians undergoes is being mentally worrisome which has also made a caused of depreciations of our fiat currency Naira(#). He further stated that if betting platforms could be moderated, then the lost of the currency values would regain and boosten back it's values. https://punchng.com/experts-fear-rise-in-mental-illnesses-over-addiction-to-betting-apps/

My question>>>
* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
Because to me, he has been a drug addict before began to gamble and he strictly gambled consciencelessly just to make profit and buy himself this assorted unhealthy pills (drugs). So, I don't see anyway of gambling being responsible for his irresponsible reputations with his mentality of what triggered him to gambling and his inabilities to control his gambling.

* Was the political social influencer right to say getting to an end of online sport bets in the app stores and the moderating of gambling would regain back the devalued currency and attracts a growing economy back to the nation a right acceptable and good research?
As much as I know, individual indulgences has no stake of influences to affect the national economy at where the government folds its hands of governance While counting national welfareness reliably of the vulnerable individuals. Although, getting to an end of online sport bets from the app stores would contribute to manage the number of psychological gambling addictive effects in the country.

* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
Even though the online casino gambling as influences on the massive audience, I don't think it has been in any strategic or physically enforced a compulsory venture to anyone that he must gamble.
I don't see gambling walking to the players instead the players walks to the gambles so, directly and indirectly gambling has an influence but has not path to be blamed over individuals irrepressible living on their caused of gambling.

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[Orpichukwu]

My question>>>
* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
Because to me, he has been a drug addict before began to gamble and he strictly gambled consciencelessly just to make profit and buy himself this assorted unhealthy pills (drugs). So, I don't see anyway of gambling being responsible for his irresponsible reputations with his mentality of what triggered him to gambling and his inabilities to control his gambling.

Gambling is not the problem here; the guy was the problem, and he ended up getting himself into two addictions at the same time. They should focus more on trying to save that soul from destroying himself.
 
Let's look at it this way, assuming there was nothing like gambling, and this guy is already in a state where if he doesn't take those drugs, he feels like he is losing it and can't get control of himself.

What do you think will stop him from doing anything possible just to be able to afford those drugs? And the things possible included selling those laundry properties, as it appears that's the only valuable thing he has in his possession. It's just a matter of time, and he will definitely sell the shop off to sponsor his drug habit.

[Hirose UK]

Drugs will never have anything to do with and can have an influence on gambling and of the three questions you asked, there is only one question that makes me interested in discussing it.

* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?

When there is gambler who really experiences ruin because of gambling then it is clear that the main mistake is not about gambling but the gambler himself.
They decide to gamble according to their desires and thoughts, they gamble without coercion from any party so it is clear that they must be responsible for all the risks and consequences that occur.
The mistake of gamblers is not being able to have limits and self-control and of course if limits and control can be had then destruction will never happen.
From this it can be concluded that blaming gambling for the destruction that occurs is not responsible attitude and of course I would consider them to be gamblers who cannot introspect themselves.

[paxmao]

Look, dollars are used for drug trafficking, right? Are US dollars to be blamed for whoever decides to use drugs? Same with paedophiles or weapons dealers, they use dollars, but that does not make the dollar a bad thing, it is the use that people make of it what is not right. Gambling is not wrong in itself, it is a pastime and some addictive personalities may just fall into it like they could in other stuff.

[ethereumhunter]

Gambling is not to blame but people who gamble excessively and want to use gambling as a source of income are to blame. There should be new regulations stating that those who gamble excessively will receive severe punishment so that those who gamble excessively can understand this and try hard to reduce their gambling activities. The government must provide education to its citizens and strictly prohibit those who want to use gambling as a source of income. But it seems that this is not easy to do because there are already many people who consider gambling as a source of income and these are the ones who need to be trained and made aware of it first, including those written by @OP. Gambling is the same as other activities, but the difference is that gambling uses money to get fun and entertainment. At the same time, other activities may also use money but perhaps not as much as gambling.

[davis196]

* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
Because to me, he has been a drug addict before began to gamble and he strictly gambled consciencelessly just to make profit and buy himself this assorted unhealthy pills (drugs). So, I don't see anyway of gambling being responsible for his irresponsible reputations with his mentality of what triggered him to gambling and his inabilities to control his gambling.

* Was the political social influencer right to say getting to an end of online sport bets in the app stores and the moderating of gambling would regain back the devalued currency and attracts a growing economy back to the nation a right acceptable and good research?
As much as I know, individual indulgences has no stake of influences to affect the national economy at where the government folds its hands of governance While counting national welfareness reliably of the vulnerable individuals. Although, getting to an end of online sport bets from the app stores would contribute to manage the number of psychological gambling addictive effects in the country.

* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
Even though the online casino gambling as influences on the massive audience, I don't think it has been in any strategic or physically enforced a compulsory venture to anyone that he must gamble.
I don't see gambling walking to the players instead the players walks to the gambles so, directly and indirectly gambling has an influence but has not path to be blamed over individuals irrepressible living on their caused of gambling.

1.Yes and No. You can blame the cause of your addiction, but the main cause and problem is your lack of self-control.

2.The idea that banning gambling would force the gamblers to spend more money buying goods and services(and boosting the economy) seems reasonable and stupid at the same time. Banning gambling would only force most of the gamblers to play online via using a VPN and to visit illegal offline casinos, that are hidden in secret places.

3.The blame can be shared between the gambling industry and the gamblers. Let's not pretend that the gambling industry is completely innocent, and on the other hand, let's not pretend that the gamblers are a bunch of gullible and ignorant people, who got manipulated and forced to gamble by the casinos.

[piebeyb]

My question>>>
* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
Because to me, he has been a drug addict before began to gamble and he strictly gambled consciencelessly just to make profit and buy himself this assorted unhealthy pills (drugs). So, I don't see anyway of gambling being responsible for his irresponsible reputations with his mentality of what triggered him to gambling and his inabilities to control his gambling.

The one to blame is this man because gambling cannot be blamed, there is no forcing anyone to gamble, have you ever heard of casinos placing advertisements that force their users to gamble, I don't think we will find that and we all know that everything comes because of each individual's awareness too at your own risk, so gambling should not be blamed for bad things happening to someone who is already addicted to gambling.

Our job as gamblers should be to warn anyone and anywhere about the dangers of gambling addiction, especially since this man considers gambling as a source of income and this man thinks that gambling is a way to get rich and can buy drugs when he wins, but in fact he feels the bitter results. where the defeat he feels makes him even more frustrated, that's what not many people know is that gambling is actually not a place to make money but just for fun and entertainment, nothing more than that, so stop blaming gambling.

[danherbias07]

And that's where it gets confusing for more gamblers. They are finding someone to point their fingers at for all their regrets and I think that's normal being a human. We do love to blame others so that we will feel better about ourselves. Well, the good thing about it is, gambling site owners don't really answer this kind of blame game. They just let gamblers put all their hate to them but we all know even with that hatred, gamblers will still gamble at the end of the day. It's too difficult to let go of the entertainment and roller coaster emotional effect that it gives.

Should gambling sites take all the blame? No, I don't think so. We are gambling with the knowledge that we are risking our real money here. If we do not accept that, then we are just hypocrites trying to make money out of thin air which could not be done in gambling or any other business and investment.
Taking the risk will always be there, but in gambling, we take it to greater heights because we want the easy way and maybe even the fastest way to increase our money.
I had my share of ranting in the chatbox of one gambling site because of the lack of RTP chance after I experienced a long losing streak. But that ends there and when I wake up I am still the one to be blamed for being emotional and chasing my losses in a rush.

[rodskee]

Drugs will give every idea  even impossible just for you to have it , because addicted in drugs
(well even in gambling) will do everything just to get what they needed and this is the hardest  addictions a human
can ever have, a drug addicted and gambling addict all in one.

even if he did not learn or find about gambling he will do what it takes just to have drugs supply
and with all of those stand that person is really in the edge of his life and that person needs help quickly  before its too late.

[Odohu]

My question>>>
* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
Because to me, he has been a drug addict before began to gamble and he strictly gambled consciencelessly just to make profit and buy himself this assorted unhealthy pills (drugs). So, I don't see anyway of gambling being responsible for his irresponsible reputations with his mentality of what triggered him to gambling and his inabilities to control his gambling.

This is a case of "giving a dog a bad name in order to kill it". How can you blame gambling for the actions of a drug addict? Without gambling, he will chose other options to raise funds for his drug. He can go as far as stealing because he is addicted and will stop at nothing to get drugs. So, gambling has no blame for his decisions or actions.

There is no way a drug addict will not show desperation in his gambling, he cannot make clear decisions and this will affect his gambling performance. Except on luck base games such as slots, he stand no chance at making progress in skill based games because his decision making are already distorted by the influence of the drugs.

It is best we sort out our needs as well as our finances before even getting started in gambling because gambling should be seen as a way of making passive income. This is the only way to remain sane in gambling because losses will always come when we least expected.

[MainIbem]

First I will like draw an attention towards this issues because I can see is a complex case where he needs to battle for one problems before indulging in another case that could worsen the whole problem. At first he was already battling with drug addicts and didn't fight against it before looking for another source to make money.. we call this desperacy, when a man is desperate looking for money then he would do all thing to gain money and this was what attributed to his failure.

Have you also remembered that there are people who are gambling and making fortune out of it? Of course gambling has helped lots of people in our country mostly since the government has no working opportunity for her citizen, most people are using gambling to sustain their family and it has helped lots of people for that matter and if gambling is the cause of his predicament then what about his drugs addiction?

No one to be blamed apart from himself and he should work on himself to stop both, because drugs alone is worster than gambling because that can make you sell of whatever you both millions to thousand without calculating how much you spent on it, at this place we have to apportioned the blamed on him.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

This has also called on the aifs of a political and a social influencer calling to the attentions of the president of Nigeria to bring an end and cut off the accessibilities access to online sport betting in the country in other to main a better orderliness in the society because the states of miles Nigerians undergoes is being mentally worrisome which has also made a caused of depreciations of our fiat currency Naira(#). He further stated that if betting platforms could be moderated, then the lost of the currency values would regain and boosten back it's values. https://punchng.com/experts-fear-rise-in-mental-illnesses-over-addiction-to-betting-apps/

OP, after reading through all that you have written, I find a need to read through the article you uploaded so I can properly understand the reason why the office of the Nigerian government feels that stopping online sports gambling will help the devaluation of the naira and make it gain more value.

What I find as their reason for wanting to stop online sports gambling is what's in the quote below.

He called for a ban on sports betting apps to improve the value of the Naira.

Speaking on the loss and impact on the nation’s Gross Domestic Product, Omokri stated that the $1bn spent daily on sports betting and other types of gambling, implies that more money was leaving the country than compared to the nation’s externally generated revenue.

At a point, I feel that this discussion should have been pushed to the political board, but well, it's also fit on a gambling board. Just to drop a few lines as to the reason for the Naira devaluation. The major causes of the devaluation of the naira are:

Rising inflation, foreign reserve depletion, exchange rate policies, weak diversification, and heavy oil reliance. These are major causes of the naira devaluation. Now, my own question is: what has the Nigerian government done about those factors causing devaluation? What has been done about those factors to prevent the Naira from undergoing devaluation?. 

PS: I am not in any way opposing the decision of the Nigerian government to protect their naira, but guess what? I also checked on the rate of gambling in the US and how much is being gambled off every year, and the value was huge, yet the dollar has more value than the naira.

Across the U.S., gamblers lost $34.2 billion on slot machines last year, up about 5% from nearly $32.5 billion in 2021, according to the report. Players lost $10 billion on table games such as blackjack and roulette, up nearly 14% from $8.8 billion.

My question>>>
* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
Because to me, he has been a drug addict before began to gamble and he strictly gambled consciencelessly just to make profit and buy himself this assorted unhealthy pills (drugs).

To answer your question, @OP, I would say that gambling is not to blame. People have a choice in everything they do in life, and if an individual chooses to become addicted to something, they should have themselves to blame and nothing else. Perhaps he was already addicted to drug intake; even if he had not ventured into gambling, he definitely would have still sold all his property and used the money to buy drugs because, from his lifestyle as described, he lacks self-control. What the government should even be doing now is carrying out an investigation to find out who is actually supplying cocaine to the victim in discussion.

[Heartilly]

* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
Even though the online casino gambling as influences on the massive audience, I don't think it has been in any strategic or physically enforced a compulsory venture to anyone that he must gamble.
I don't see gambling walking to the players instead the players walks to the gambles so, directly and indirectly gambling has an influence but has not path to be blamed over individuals irrepressible living on their caused of gambling.

Don't blame gambling why some people got their lives ruined. We are the ones responsible for where should we end. Our life depends on our actions. I know the environment around us plays a big role in our behaviour but are just going to let other things affect what are we supposed to do?

Gambling is just there, silent and idle and these people are the ones who entered and want to test what gambling is. Nothing wrong but make sure once we enter gambling, we know and are aware of the things that we should do and always keep ourselves away from the trap of gambling as much as possible.

[Hamphser]

* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
* Was the political social influencer right to say getting to an end of online sport bets in the app stores and the moderating of gambling would regain back the devalued currency and attracts a growing economy back to
nation a right acceptable and good research?
* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?

*When you are drug addicted then for sure you would really be dealing up with things or engaging into something that could give out that fast income or profit on which gambling do checks out that tick box.
*Its does have its pros and cons, but usually government would really be that focusing much more on tax revenue rather than on thinking about other possible matters.
*The only one that you could really be able to blame is only yourself, you havent been forced to do gambling and spend up tons on it. Its not bad to gambler if you
do really just that make yourself that responsible and discipline then you wont really be putting up yourself on such trouble or possible problem.

[chaser15]

Based on my understanding, I will assume that the guy is also knowledgeable about the sports he has chosen to bet on and that might be the reason why he can manage and pull some profits in sports betting. His knowledge of that said sport lures him to gamble more because if he just gambles just out of nowhere, I think he will choose to gamble instead of the usual slot games and anything that requires only luck.

I think even if that guy is involved in drugs or not, he will still end up gambling because of the interest.

[Jawhead999]

If someone complain gambling can ruin someone else life or could make a problem because it's to make money, the government should ban fiat and adopt communist ideology, so no one would be rich except the government.

* Was the political social influencer right to say getting to an end of online sport bets in the app stores and the moderating of gambling would regain back the devalued currency and attracts a growing economy back to the nation a right acceptable and good research?

Incorrect, fiat is already a failed currency, by the mechanism, there's no way fiat value will increase because it has unlimited supply and backed by nothing. It's true online gambling could reduce the country's income because it's not taxed, but as I said there's no relation between online casino and fiat value.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

      -   I believe the influencers who promote online casinos in various fields of social media platforms are influencing many people who are ruining the livelihoods of others who are trying because of their fraudulent claims when they promote casinos.

The fraud in their promotion is very acute, like the words that most influencers will use to say that when you sign up with their link, you will definitely not experience defeat; instead, you will experience only winning, as they hyped showing a lot of money on their video ads.

[YOSHIE]

* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?

Generally what we see is drugs and gambling, two things that are linked to each other. It seems that it is not cool to use drugs without gambling. In this case, my understanding is that it is not gambling that is to blame, the users themselves are to blame, many of them gamble without using drugs.

* Was the political social influencer right to say getting to an end of online sport bets in the app stores and the moderating of gambling would regain back the devalued currency and attracts a growing economy back to the nation a right acceptable and good research?

I haven't found research and haven't read anything like that, regarding gambling, politics, economics and so on, maybe I have to search deeper to answer this.

* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?

It's not gambling that should be blamed, it's those who gamble that should be blamed, gambling has no thoughts while humans have all that to think.

[Cantsay]

I had to go through the original article and from what I noticed I don’t think gambling is the main issue here.

Since we're talking about a drug addict who, at some point, didn't have enough money to buy his drugs and had to turn to gambling to make ends meet, assuming this person didn't gamble, there's a good chance he'd have turned to something more unethical to fund his drugs.  We shouldn’t forget that drug addiction is one of the major causes of crime in the society.

He had a goal when he started gambling, and every time he checks into his account, all he thinks about is how to make millions of dollars for his medications; people like this never do anything productive. They're users here who have been gambling for years; they were already gamblers before joining Bitcointalk, and they know exactly what they want every time they check in - when to fold, when to hold, and when to walk away.


If you read the article, you'll notice that he mentioned his drugs being expensive, and I'm sure the majority of them are illegal, but those proposing a gambling ban didn't discuss how to stop the circulation of those drugs that are being abused, because it's clear that his case was caused by his drug addiction, which has the potential to impair his reasoning capacity. Instead they want to stop betting.

[electronicash]

i say gambling adds to the reason why he ends up miserable right now. and though he could still be there when his drug addiction takes over him but he could be saved still if he just relied on his laundry business to haave a supply of his drugs. instead, he turned to gambling which he has no control over.

the drugs still are the reason why he gambles. he wanted more of the cocaine. it's not a cheap drug.