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January 12, 2024, 06:49:20 AM
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On a norms, gambling is gambling but the important part of it is that no gambler should ever use or see gambling as a means of making money because they will end up losing losing losing and losing their money.
Although, sometimes some gamblers likely win some good amount of money and sometimes we also lose money too, so when a gambler who's gambling for profit start losing his or her money in gambling they will try to look fir away that they will win back the money that they have lost while gambling.
Gambling is gambling but the problem is that many people use gambling as a means to make money and they don't realize that it is a mistake and should end it immediately and find another way to make money. They cannot make money continuously because gambling is not a place to make money but just to have fun. Even though they can make money, it won't happen every day so they have to be aware of that and not try hard to get it. And if there is a drug addict who is also a gambling addict, that will only make the problem bigger because these two addiction problems are more than enough to make his life a mess. They should stop it immediately by visiting a rehabilitation center to get help from doctors.

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January 12, 2024, 04:53:37 PM
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On a norms, gambling is gambling but the important part of it is that no gambler should ever use or see gambling as a means of making money because they will end up losing losing losing and losing their money.
Although, sometimes some gamblers likely win some good amount of money and sometimes we also lose money too, so when a gambler who's gambling for profit start losing his or her money in gambling they will try to look fir away that they will win back the money that they have lost while gambling.
Gambling is gambling but the problem is that many people use gambling as a means to make money and they don't realize that it is a mistake and should end it immediately and find another way to make money. They cannot make money continuously because gambling is not a place to make money but just to have fun. Even though they can make money, it won't happen every day so they have to be aware of that and not try hard to get it. And if there is a drug addict who is also a gambling addict, that will only make the problem bigger because these two addiction problems are more than enough to make his life a mess. They should stop it immediately by visiting a rehabilitation center to get help from doctors.
I can't imagine how someone can be addicted to gambling and also addicted to drugs whereas having one of the addictions in this case can destroy a person's future very quickly whereas in the case described OP has both addictions and I'm sure he is an insane person.

but what I'm thinking right now is why a drug addict can become addicted to gambling while a drug addict always thinks about drugs to buy without thinking about gambling and for me this really doesn't make sense if a drug addict has the desire to make big money from gambling while he was destroyed because he was too addicted to drugs.

I support you, if you already have awareness regarding your addiction, it would be better to immediately go to a professional doctor to provide rehabilitation to help cure your addiction.

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January 12, 2024, 06:09:59 PM
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Addiction and drug consumption have complex aspects, they attack any culture and social level, what differentiates each country is how they treat the problem and how they prepare for the future.

Australia is one of the countries where gambling is very popular, the United States is the country that consumes the most drugs, so it is not just about poor countries, in that idea, it is about information and moral social treatment.

Anyway, I don't understand why your context has to land on this gambling board, it is a social, political issue.

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January 12, 2024, 08:24:38 PM
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* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
Even though the online casino gambling as influences on the massive audience, I don't think it has been in any strategic or physically enforced a compulsory venture to anyone that he must gamble.
I don't see gambling walking to the players instead the players walks to the gambles so, directly and indirectly gambling has an influence but has not path to be blamed over individuals irrepressible living on their caused of gambling.

Like you have said already, there is no time when a casino will force someone to come and gamble in their place; gamblers go there by themselves to place a bet, and this is something that has to do with personal decisions for which the casino is not to be held responsible in any way.
 
The person in question is an addict and needs to work on himself, and with or without the casino, the person is already addicted to something, so if the casino is not there, he might look for other means of trying to get quick money, which could lure him to something else. There are other ways that those who are not responsible use to spend and waste money, up to the extent of selling their properties. Casino is just one of them.

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January 12, 2024, 08:44:08 PM
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My question>>>
* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
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Just because he tried to fund it by gambling how would gambling be the issue here? If that guy worked at the building site to fund his drug habits, would we blame building sites for it?

Irresponsibility and drug addiction is the problem here, the fact he thought he could fund it by gambling is either him lying or he doesn't know how income works, or he was just addicted to gambling as well. But let's not be that fast to judge his decisions, because some of them might not be "decisions", but just acts one does in withdrawal.

Gambling of course can ruin some lifes as it's not for everyone. Almost anything that you get hooked to and when you lose control is bad for you. Doubly so when there's so much monetary responsibilities involved.

But from what you write, it sounds like your country needs their gambling laws fixed.

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January 12, 2024, 09:37:03 PM
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Gambling must be done with full control, remembering that because gambling is a type of game that is full of challenges and risks, it really must be played calmly. And if someone is under the influence of drugs, it is certain that he has lost consciousness and someone who is under the influence of drugs tends to be emotional and temperamental. So it will be difficult for him to gamble calmly, which ultimately encourages him to behave recklessly.

And in this case, it's not gambling that's wrong. but it is this person who has misunderstood and interpreted gambling itself. It is wrong to think that gambling can provide profits, it is wrong to think that gambling doubles your money. And we also have to remember, that the casino never forces someone to visit and play at the casino, they only make an offer and the rest is up to you personally, whether to gamble or not.

We can't blame a person for what happens to a person today, because whatever he ends up doing, he should be aware of what he is doing. When a person becomes addicted to drugs and is even more involved in gambling, he will become more confused, he will no longer be able to control the things he does that can even lead to bad things like crime. There is nothing wrong with gambling as long as we know our limitations. It's not easy as what we think, but if you think about it and you already know the consequences, you'll be scared. right? you'll be more careful because you don't want to be like other people who have ruined their lives because of their habits.



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January 12, 2024, 09:45:00 PM
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hard drugs are always really strong and unpredictable on real (medium long) term effects.

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* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
This is a curious question. Gambling is not ruining nothing if you play wisely... It's just a form of fun... an hobby nothing more.
Remember (here I am talking as registered pharmacist that work actually in a pharmacy in Italy) you need to get an help for cocaine addiction that requires even YEARS to be addressed, gambling is probably the last problem in this case.

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January 12, 2024, 09:47:03 PM
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My question>>>
* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
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Just because he tried to fund it by gambling how would gambling be the issue here? If that guy worked at the building site to fund his drug habits, would we blame building sites for it?

Irresponsibility and drug addiction is the problem here, the fact he thought he could fund it by gambling is either him lying or he doesn't know how income works, or he was just addicted to gambling as well. But let's not be that fast to judge his decisions, because some of them might not be "decisions", but just acts one does in withdrawal.

Gambling of course can ruin some lifes as it's not for everyone. Almost anything that you get hooked to and when you lose control is bad for you. Doubly so when there's so much monetary responsibilities involved.

But from what you write, it sounds like your country needs their gambling laws fixed.
So the main question is, how that building site do knows that those amounts came from drugs? How they would be able to know for them to prohibit a particular gambler on playing into the venue?
This what makes it hard to detect whether those fiats or money are tainted or do came from illegal things or not, unless if there would really be that obvious exchange then it would really be that a total illegal thing but i highly doubt this thing considering that no physical casinos would really be that allowing such thing yet this isnt something a business that you could easily be busted up by the authorities because of illegal doings.
There's no other things which you can really be able to blame with but rather on that person itself because if he wont really be that making himself engaging too much with gambling or having that
addiction then he wont really be able to end up with those kind of situation or circumstances. Gambling addiction could really lead up into different possible scenarios on which an individual might really be getting involved with on which on the time that addiction hits hard then this is where it would be starting for you to do things even if its illegal or simply it could really give out that kind of risk into yourself.

Its never been worth on trying out to tolerate things on which you do know that it wouldnt really be that giving that good impact into you. You should really be that mindful about on the things
that you are dealing and the actions that you are really that taking. You cant really just that make yourself do make out some reckless decisions.

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January 13, 2024, 12:43:01 AM
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hard drugs are always really strong and unpredictable on real (medium long) term effects.

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* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
This is a curious question. Gambling is not ruining nothing if you play wisely... It's just a form of fun... an hobby nothing more.
Remember (here I am talking as registered pharmacist that work actually in a pharmacy in Italy) you need to get an help for cocaine addiction that requires even YEARS to be addressed, gambling is probably the last problem in this case.
What ruins lives is not gambling. gambling is just a means to get pleasure. because it cannot be denied that gambling addicts will not feel calm if they still have not made a bet on their gambling. but keep in mind not to use illegal drugs just to calm down when experiencing excessive defeat. because that will damage the brain and mental health.

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January 13, 2024, 03:07:39 AM
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I can't imagine how someone can be addicted to gambling and also addicted to drugs whereas having one of the addictions in this case can destroy a person's future very quickly whereas in the case described OP has both addictions and I'm sure he is an insane person.

but what I'm thinking right now is why a drug addict can become addicted to gambling while a drug addict always thinks about drugs to buy without thinking about gambling and for me this really doesn't make sense if a drug addict has the desire to make big money from gambling while he was destroyed because he was too addicted to drugs.

I support you, if you already have awareness regarding your addiction, it would be better to immediately go to a professional doctor to provide rehabilitation to help cure your addiction.
Well, that's beyond our thinking, but that's the reality out there, and we also don't know what happened until he had two addictions. This could endanger his life and destroy his future and that of his family because his family will feel the impact of his addiction.

Maybe he was just addicted to drugs at first but then he saw how people could win from gambling. They also tried their luck by gambling but what happened was that they lost. And finally, they are also addicted to gambling, so they experience two addictions at once, which adds to the problem even more.

By visiting a professional doctor, it can help him cure his addiction but it may take time because there are two addictions at once. He should be aware of his addiction and his family should be able to help him heal.

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January 13, 2024, 08:04:53 PM
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You won't see people say that it was "the fault of gambling" in a gambling forum. It's the same as asking people in a drug forum if drugs are to blame for addiction or people. The vast majority will tell you that it's people and IMO this is the way it is, but I'd like to see someone claim otherwise for the sake of the argument.
The way I see it, the existence of an object or action cannot be blamed for people's choices regarding it. When you see berries, you can eat them or not. It's not the fault of the berries that some of them are poisonous.
There are actually people who can say that. Like me for example, I already made a reply before in which I say that it was also the fault of gambling on why there are problem gamblers. It is also the fault of the people because they play on them. On your " berry " example, I think it was the fault of the berries on why they are poisonous but it's only up to the person if they will eat them or not.

Though I'm sure that a people that can think clearly won't eat them. Using it as a comparison to gambling was still far IMO because even if gambling is known to be highly addicting and risky, many people are still playing at them. And some of them can still be responsible.

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January 13, 2024, 08:48:42 PM
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I mean. This guy OP is talking about got in trouble as soon as could not control the craving to consume more of those hard drugs. Even if he only stayed on that addiction alone he would have ended up selling much of his assets to get more of it, sadly the fact he got into gambling only accelerated his trajectory down hill.
That is honestly the most dangerous and saddest part of those addictions, one cannot longer think logically and realize about the endless string of mistakes one is committing.
I know there is an important market for those kind of drugs there in Nigeria, that country is part of the path cocaine is trafficked up towards Europe. One could only hope there was more rehabilitation centers and clinics for those who end up calling into those addictions, before they sell all their possessions to continue to fuel their cravings.
It is quite sad...

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My question>>>
* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
Because to me, he has been a drug addict before began to gamble and he strictly gambled consciencelessly just to make profit and buy himself this assorted unhealthy pills (drugs). So, I don't see anyway of gambling being responsible for his irresponsible reputations with his mentality of what triggered him to gambling and his inabilities to control his gambling.
Gambling is not the problem here; the guy was the problem, and he ended up getting himself into two addictions at the same time. They should focus more on trying to save that soul from destroying himself.
 
Let's look at it this way, assuming there was nothing like gambling, and this guy is already in a state where if he doesn't take those drugs, he feels like he is losing it and can't get control of himself.

What do you think will stop him from doing anything possible just to be able to afford those drugs? And the things possible included selling those laundry properties, as it appears that's the only valuable thing he has in his possession. It's just a matter of time, and he will definitely sell the shop off to sponsor his drug habit.
I agree with this, it is the person not the drug or even the gambling.
It is their own action that destroyed their life, if he didn't touch or get addicted to drugs there is a chance that he wouldn't be addicted to gambling.
People could change if they really want to, and for me it is all just an excuse that they are addicted to something and couldn't get over it.
They just need strong determination to move out of their bad habit, step by step it would surely be a slow progress but if they could do it from time to time, they could surely fix their life.



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January 13, 2024, 09:16:43 PM
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Look, dollars are used for drug trafficking, right? Are US dollars to be blamed for whoever decides to use drugs? Same with paedophiles or weapons dealers, they use dollars, but that does not make the dollar a bad thing, it is the use that people make of it what is not right. Gambling is not wrong in itself, it is a pastime and some addictive personalities may just fall into it like they could in other stuff.
Exactly gambling cannot be blamed in this scenario. The guy I question was a drug addict of which most are also gambling addicts.
You don't expect someone who can not help but take hard drugs often just to satisfy their nasty addiction to not do same with gambling. just as he is to blame for his actions and not the drugs, he is also to blame for his wrong way of practicing gambling. Gambling is a neutral act and when most haters classify it as an evil act , they do so from their view about addicts.

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January 13, 2024, 09:25:45 PM
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hard drugs are always really strong and unpredictable on real (medium long) term effects.
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* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
This is a curious question. Gambling is not ruining nothing if you play wisely... It's just a form of fun... an hobby nothing more.
Remember (here I am talking as registered pharmacist that work actually in a pharmacy in Italy) you need to get an help for cocaine addiction that requires even YEARS to be addressed, gambling is probably the last problem in this case.
What ruins lives is not gambling. gambling is just a means to get pleasure. because it cannot be denied that gambling addicts will not feel calm if they still have not made a bet on their gambling. but keep in mind not to use illegal drugs just to calm down when experiencing excessive defeat. because that will damage the brain and mental health.
Gambling doesn't ruin lives rather peoples attitude towards gambling does, gambling was supposed to be a means of entertainment or catching fun, personally I do referr to it as an expensive fun although there are room for little stakes but then you have to make some stakes to be able to participate in such fun.

Some persons go beyond making gambling fin and entertaining to making it their source of income and that's where they start having issues gambling and probably turn addicted and when they become addicted and indulge in unhealthy practice they blame it on gambling meanwhile they had a very wrong approach towards it. When compared with drugs they are almost the same because they both come with the adrenaline rush and also the desire to satisfy such craving which until it's satisfied they don't get at ease.

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January 13, 2024, 09:26:51 PM
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This is a different addiction and we should not blame gambling if you’re already addict in drugs.
Though gambling can make it worst as you are being exposed again in other market where you can be addict again and in gambling you can have the chance to multiply your money and that’s why many drug addict are also into gambling. Being responsible is always the best option, if you are addict in drugs better to start rehabilitate yourself and don’t gamble, because it can make the situation worst.
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This is a different addiction and we should not blame gambling if you’re already addict in drugs.
Though gambling can make it worst as you are being exposed again in other market where you can be addict again and in gambling you can have the chance to multiply your money and that’s why many drug addict are also into gambling. Being responsible is always the best option, if you are addict in drugs better to start rehabilitate yourself and don’t gamble, because it can make the situation worst.

I do think as well that it's very different addiction and there are no correlation to one another. And maybe those drug addicts are just hiding from the fact that they want to gamble to get more money and so they can buy more drugs and that is b**s**t. I think here, admit it or not, there are a lot of gambling addicts, but you will not here us saying this excuses or going into drugs.

Gambling as vices is enough already. Don't ruined it with going into drugs as it is worst. The only thing that I see on both is that maybe individuals are using drugs and gambling as a way to cope stress and or anxiety. But then again, as I have said, it will just make it worst and we shouldn't go on this direction.
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January 14, 2024, 09:59:23 PM
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This is a different addiction and we should not blame gambling if you’re already addict in drugs.
Though gambling can make it worst as you are being exposed again in other market where you can be addict again and in gambling you can have the chance to multiply your money and that’s why many drug addict are also into gambling. Being responsible is always the best option, if you are addict in drugs better to start rehabilitate yourself and don’t gamble, because it can make the situation worst.

I do think as well that it's very different addiction and there are no correlation to one another. And maybe those drug addicts are just hiding from the fact that they want to gamble to get more money and so they can buy more drugs and that is b**s**t. I think here, admit it or not, there are a lot of gambling addicts, but you will not here us saying this excuses or going into drugs.

Gambling as vices is enough already. Don't ruined it with going into drugs as it is worst. The only thing that I see on both is that maybe individuals are using drugs and gambling as a way to cope stress and or anxiety. But then again, as I have said, it will just make it worst and we shouldn't go on this direction.
Addiction could correlate on one another yet actions could chain up basing up on the condition specially when it involves money or funding.  Cool

If you do saw that you dont have money to sustain your addiction towards drugs, then you could possible be stealing up money, you could be making those illegal acts or you might be thinking
on playing gambling because winning or making money is easy?. You would definitely be having these kind of impressions and anticipations on which it would really be leading on those kind of acts.

In overall, it would really be just that depending on someones acts because if they wont really be that having that sense of what right and wrong kind of decision
then they would really be ending up on having that kind of situations on which might be leading into disaster financially and even into your own health.

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January 14, 2024, 10:22:34 PM
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This person's life was already ruined before he even got into gambling, why are you saying that gambling is to blame?
Even though he made a lot of money from gambling at first to support his drug addiction, we cannot blame gambling for the addicted life he was leading before that.

Of all the evils, at least he led a dignified life, as he supported his drug addictions with an honest source of income (at first). Many drug addicts prefer to steal or open a clandestine and fraudulent business to get money faster, this would be a bad thing. But the way you stated this fact, I see nothing wrong with gambling.

What I have seen in online gaming addictions is exactly the opposite.... people who are already addicted to gambling end up contracting other addictions to illicit drugs, alcohol or cigarettes due to the psychological stress that gambling losses cause in the people's minds out of control.

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My question>>>
* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
Because to me, he has been a drug addict before began to gamble and he strictly gambled consciencelessly just to make profit and buy himself this assorted unhealthy pills (drugs). So, I don't see anyway of gambling being responsible for his irresponsible reputations with his mentality of what triggered him to gambling and his inabilities to control his gambling.
Gambling is not the problem here; the guy was the problem, and he ended up getting himself into two addictions at the same time. They should focus more on trying to save that soul from destroying himself.
 
Let's look at it this way, assuming there was nothing like gambling, and this guy is already in a state where if he doesn't take those drugs, he feels like he is losing it and can't get control of himself.

What do you think will stop him from doing anything possible just to be able to afford those drugs? And the things possible included selling those laundry properties, as it appears that's the only valuable thing he has in his possession. It's just a matter of time, and he will definitely sell the shop off to sponsor his drug habit.

Yeah agreed.  Gambling isn't the issue most cases its the people who can't make a good decision to save tueor life.  I know people who are just addicted to anything they do whether drugs, gambling, working out etc. Gambling with an agenda to support another habit will never work out too many irrational decisions.

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