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January 15, 2024, 02:55:32 AM
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Gambling is not the problem here; the guy was the problem, and he ended up getting himself into two addictions at the same time. They should focus more on trying to save that soul from destroying himself.
 
Let's look at it this way, assuming there was nothing like gambling, and this guy is already in a state where if he doesn't take those drugs, he feels like he is losing it and can't get control of himself.

What do you think will stop him from doing anything possible just to be able to afford those drugs? And the things possible included selling those laundry properties, as it appears that's the only valuable thing he has in his possession. It's just a matter of time, and he will definitely sell the shop off to sponsor his drug habit.

Yeah agreed.  Gambling isn't the issue most cases its the people who can't make a good decision to save tueor life.  I know people who are just addicted to anything they do whether drugs, gambling, working out etc. Gambling with an agenda to support another habit will never work out too many irrational decisions.

Drugs or other similar intoxicating drugs have a substance that removes memory, consciousness and also by slightly cutting the nerves of brain performance which ultimately makes it really difficult for them to find the best way or decision about the problem they are experiencing, such as the case we are discussing. If he basically likes the act of taking drugs like that or even has been very dependent on drugs with a note that there is a bad feeling or his fitness decreases if he doesn't consume it then I think it's quite reasonable if he takes any action even if it doesn't make sense like trying to make a profit from gambling to finance the purchase of drugs because it's quite difficult to be in a good enough level of consciousness to be able to reach a better decision if he basically has a bad habit that in addition to the impact of these drugs can damage the nerves of the brain.

I think this is a really worrying situation, what concerns me is as you said that he is using gambling as an  alternative to earning money in order to fund other habits. It's like being stuck in a hole and he's digging that hole again which will certainly cause new problems that will make it even more difficult to climb up to save himself.

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January 15, 2024, 07:17:44 AM
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This person's life was already ruined before he even got into gambling, why are you saying that gambling is to blame?
Even though he made a lot of money from gambling at first to support his drug addiction, we cannot blame gambling for the addicted life he was leading before that.

Of all the evils, at least he led a dignified life, as he supported his drug addictions with an honest source of income (at first). Many drug addicts prefer to steal or open a clandestine and fraudulent business to get money faster, this would be a bad thing. But the way you stated this fact, I see nothing wrong with gambling.

What I have seen in online gaming addictions is exactly the opposite.... people who are already addicted to gambling end up contracting other addictions to illicit drugs, alcohol or cigarettes due to the psychological stress that gambling losses cause in the people's minds out of control.
He already had a drug addiction before he got to know gambling, and the added knowledge of gambling addiction further worsened his life and made him have two addictions, which both made his life worse. He will not always be able to make money from gambling to buy drugs because, in gambling, he will experience losses, and that will make him lose a lot of money. If he has lost a lot of money while his drug addiction requires him to consume drugs, he may commit a crime, which will further worsen the situation.

This addiction problem is hazardous for people, so we must be able to avoid it and not get too close to gambling or drugs. Moreover, there are many victims of these two addictions, so we have to be more careful in protecting ourselves.
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January 15, 2024, 07:42:27 AM
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What I have seen in online gaming addictions is exactly the opposite.... people who are already addicted to gambling end up contracting other addictions to illicit drugs, alcohol or cigarettes due to the psychological stress that gambling losses cause in the people's minds out of control.

That's not always the case, every kind of person can be addicted to drugs/gambling and their living circumstances decides which way they are going after that, even someone from the lower middle class can work their ass off and just to satisfy their urge of addiction but media always portrays that addicted person involved in the robbery, etc.









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January 15, 2024, 10:12:59 AM
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Sounds like his addiction to drugs lead him into gambling? People do this type of mistakes but I don't blame the drug and the gambling, the blame is on him for making a poor decision.

Also gambling works in mystery ways at time, maybe he is like someone I know that gets more lucky placing bets on sports in a local casino than doing it online, this person have more losses when gambling online than actually vsisting a casino nearby, I told him to follow the path that works for him and he did.

I think people should be self aware, there are many things we can't explain in this world and they matters, sometimes, things that don't make sense are the answers to everything, many will say there is no different in online and offline gambling, but which one works better for you? Where are you most lucky? I think this is the best things to look out for.

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January 15, 2024, 10:47:05 AM
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* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
Even though the online casino gambling as influences on the massive audience, I don't think it has been in any strategic or physically enforced a compulsory venture to anyone that he must gamble.
I don't see gambling walking to the players instead the players walks to the gambles so, directly and indirectly gambling has an influence but has not path to be blamed over individuals irrepressible living on their caused of gambling.


For a weak person it is but for a strong person its not, it really depends on the character of the gambler, gambling only ruin weak people, the gambling platforms are meant to be an entertainment portal and strong individuals treated gambling it as such but for weak people its their temptation to fulfill their dream that will not and cannot happen in platforms like gambling.
People are quick to blame gambling for their miseries and these people are weak people who think wrongly about gambling, if you know the fact about gambling and you follow the right path I don't think you will be ruined in gambling.
People who have definition about gambling are the one messed up their lives because of gambling.

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January 15, 2024, 11:15:08 AM
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* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
Even though the online casino gambling as influences on the massive audience, I don't think it has been in any strategic or physically enforced a compulsory venture to anyone that he must gamble.
I don't see gambling walking to the players instead the players walks to the gambles so, directly and indirectly gambling has an influence but has not path to be blamed over individuals irrepressible living on their caused of gambling.


For a weak person it is but for a strong person its not, it really depends on the character of the gambler, gambling only ruin weak people, the gambling platforms are meant to be an entertainment portal and strong individuals treated gambling it as such but for weak people its their temptation to fulfill their dream that will not and cannot happen in platforms like gambling.
People are quick to blame gambling for their miseries and these people are weak people who think wrongly about gambling, if you know the fact about gambling and you follow the right path I don't think you will be ruined in gambling.
People who have definition about gambling are the one messed up their lives because of gambling.

Yes, we have this kind of discussions with our circle of friends, I mean if you have influenced someone to gamble and then they ruined their lives, it is your fault or if that person is just a weak, he has that personality that he can't control his life and then blame others for what had happen to them.

Many of us here become addicted at some point, but recover in time and then get back in their feet. So it's not gambling per se to blame or even cocaine or whatever drugs for ruining someone's life here. If you don't have control and very weak inside, obviously your life will be miserable. But if you have realized it, then you can make a U-turn for the better and change your lives.

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January 15, 2024, 11:33:10 AM
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* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
Because to me, he has been a drug addict before began to gamble and he strictly gambled consciencelessly just to make profit and buy himself this assorted unhealthy pills (drugs). So, I don't see anyway of gambling being responsible for his irresponsible reputations with his mentality of what triggered him to gambling and his inabilities to control his gambling.
Gambling, neither drugs were responsible for his choices in life. He was responsible for his own actions. That is how things work in real world. Inanimate objects or activities can't be blamed for individuals' decisions. He decided to do drugs, and then to gamble in order to afford his initial addiction. Consequently, he suffered the consequences for his choices. You can't expect to sow apples and gather oranges... Evil seeds will develop into evil fruits.
Other hands @Uneng, remember gun doesn't kill but it is human who does while having the gun as a firearm in pulling the trigger on a victim.
So, I don't think he ruined life is pointed at holding the gamble responsible for his waywardness. If we must blame the gamble, then we should also understand that he has been a drug addict before engaging on gambling and wasn't that gambling exhausted all his money rather he turned over to gambling because he has run out of his stable income and thought gambling would offer him a better financial phase in other to fit afford his drugs as an addict he has been even before he started to gamble.

Clearly, everyone is responsible to their selves reputation and not what they engages on.
The possibilities of my responsible gambling til date is not a kudos to the gambling board but to myself because I am fit-in to take control of my emotions specifically on my gambling streamlines so, the kudos comes to me because I could maintain a responsible gambling life without being contradicted.

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January 15, 2024, 12:51:02 PM
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* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
No! Since you said this guy is addicted to drugs then he has to blame himself here and it's not gambling. It was just his option to try his luck in gambling to sustain his drug addiction.

* Was the political social influencer right to say getting to an end of online sport bets in the app stores and the moderating of gambling would regain back the devalued currency and attracts a growing economy back to the nation a right acceptable and good research?
No! Gambling has huge part in the economy of a country because of it's huge taxation. But this depends on every country's tax implementation on gambling casinos.

* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
No! It is always up to us to gamble. We knew the risks and negative effects of gambling so why blame gambling? We ruin our own lives not the gambling itself. We are the one who will decide on everything.



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January 15, 2024, 12:57:32 PM
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* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
Even though the online casino gambling as influences on the massive audience, I don't think it has been in any strategic or physically enforced a compulsory venture to anyone that he must gamble.
I don't see gambling walking to the players instead the players walks to the gambles so, directly and indirectly gambling has an influence but has not path to be blamed over individuals irrepressible living on their caused of gambling.


For a weak person it is but for a strong person its not, it really depends on the character of the gambler, gambling only ruin weak people, the gambling platforms are meant to be an entertainment portal and strong individuals treated gambling it as such but for weak people its their temptation to fulfill their dream that will not and cannot happen in platforms like gambling.
People are quick to blame gambling for their miseries and these people are weak people who think wrongly about gambling, if you know the fact about gambling and you follow the right path I don't think you will be ruined in gambling.
People who have definition about gambling are the one messed up their lives because of gambling.
That's very correct, human beings are of different nature and discipline and not all of them can discipline themselves enough to make gambling not be a problem to them whereas other are really doing their homework when it comes to keeping to their ethics because if don't have self discipline like the way you put it "the weak" you might end up destroying your life and having to blame gambling and even anyone associated with it .

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January 15, 2024, 12:59:53 PM
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Gambling is not the problem here; the guy was the problem, and he ended up getting himself into two addictions at the same time. They should focus more on trying to save that soul from destroying himself.
 
Let's look at it this way, assuming there was nothing like gambling, and this guy is already in a state where if he doesn't take those drugs, he feels like he is losing it and can't get control of himself.

What do you think will stop him from doing anything possible just to be able to afford those drugs? And the things possible included selling those laundry properties, as it appears that's the only valuable thing he has in his possession. It's just a matter of time, and he will definitely sell the shop off to sponsor his drug habit.

Yeah agreed.  Gambling isn't the issue most cases its the people who can't make a good decision to save tueor life.  I know people who are just addicted to anything they do whether drugs, gambling, working out etc. Gambling with an agenda to support another habit will never work out too many irrational decisions.

Drugs or other similar intoxicating drugs have a substance that removes memory, consciousness and also by slightly cutting the nerves of brain performance which ultimately makes it really difficult for them to find the best way or decision about the problem they are experiencing, such as the case we are discussing. If he basically likes the act of taking drugs like that or even has been very dependent on drugs with a note that there is a bad feeling or his fitness decreases if he doesn't consume it then I think it's quite reasonable if he takes any action even if it doesn't make sense like trying to make a profit from gambling to finance the purchase of drugs because it's quite difficult to be in a good enough level of consciousness to be able to reach a better decision if he basically has a bad habit that in addition to the impact of these drugs can damage the nerves of the brain.

I think this is a really worrying situation, what concerns me is as you said that he is using gambling as an  alternative to earning money in order to fund other habits. It's like being stuck in a hole and he's digging that hole again which will certainly cause new problems that will make it even more difficult to climb up to save himself.
Drugs, brain-binding chemicals, and judgment-clouding haze. You are right about the neurological impact. These drugs hijack the brain's reward system and change decision-making rules. Drugs affect decision-making, leading to more drugs. This makes gambling a choice and an unavoidable step in a tragic dance.

We must remember the human element. Behind this cycle is a human fighting unknown demons. Gambling to fuel addiction is hazardous and heartbreaking. However, empathy and intervention are needed to address this. In a healthy setting, gambling may be fun and thrilling. This is a cry for aid, a futile attempt to claw out of a pit. Recognising this is the first step to helping, not judging.

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January 15, 2024, 01:08:56 PM
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Drug is dangerous, everyone knows this before having a taste of it, this is the humans decisions, maybe I can become a drug addict too but I am not willing to try it out, unless maybe I was forced in the most brutal way? But I don't pray for such, you don't have to use drug before you accept that they are not safe, just stay away for drugs, so I don't blame anything else but the humans that consumes drugs.

There isn't much different with gambling either, I am pretty sure that the person OP is talking about is already into gambling, one addiction always lead to the other, but choosing drug at first will surely increase your desire for money, so that you can buy more drugs, so the easiest thing that will come to mind is no other than gambling, can't you see it rhymes? These are two great combos.

I strongly believe that this person already knows drug before gambling, he isn't new to both in anyway, he has no good source of income yet he has to fill up his desire for drugs, so yes gambling is the easy way out, I don't feel pity people like this, they are the ones that can rescue themselves, no one can.

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January 15, 2024, 01:24:30 PM
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* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
Even though the online casino gambling as influences on the massive audience, I don't think it has been in any strategic or physically enforced a compulsory venture to anyone that he must gamble.
I don't see gambling walking to the players instead the players walks to the gambles so, directly and indirectly gambling has an influence but has not path to be blamed over individuals irrepressible living on their caused of gambling.

For a weak person it is but for a strong person its not, it really depends on the character of the gambler, gambling only ruin weak people, the gambling platforms are meant to be an entertainment portal and strong individuals treated gambling it as such but for weak people its their temptation to fulfill their dream that will not and cannot happen in platforms like gambling.
People are quick to blame gambling for their miseries and these people are weak people who think wrongly about gambling, if you know the fact about gambling and you follow the right path I don't think you will be ruined in gambling.
People who have definition about gambling are the one messed up their lives because of gambling.

if only gamblers know how to contain themselves in front of their games, they will enjoy this activity. but of course, that's not the case, because as this activity is very addictive, they won't stop up until their bankroll is busted. or worst, they will resort to borrowing money from everyone they know they can get money of. and dig their grave of debt after debt. consequently, screwing up their life because of the piled up debts. not only their respective life, but sometimes, they can ruin the life of their immediate family members. as they are the ones directly affected by his gambling life.

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This person's life was already ruined before he even got into gambling, why are you saying that gambling is to blame?
Even though he made a lot of money from gambling at first to support his drug addiction, we cannot blame gambling for the addicted life he was leading before that.

Of all the evils, at least he led a dignified life, as he supported his drug addictions with an honest source of income (at first). Many drug addicts prefer to steal or open a clandestine and fraudulent business to get money faster, this would be a bad thing. But the way you stated this fact, I see nothing wrong with gambling.

What I have seen in online gaming addictions is exactly the opposite.... people who are already addicted to gambling end up contracting other addictions to illicit drugs, alcohol or cigarettes due to the psychological stress that gambling losses cause in the people's minds out of control.

people should get the picture that it is not the activity that is harmful, it is the person himself who is abusing the activity making it damaging to his own life. if he fully understands the repercussions of his doings, he will be more careful with his gambling activities and be cautious about what's really going on around him. one should always keep in mind about reality check. be real and not be deluded by some expectations of hitting big. because it is hard to expect such circumstance.

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If someone is addicted to drugs and he also gambles then in my opinion it is very dangerous in his daily life, because after all both of these behaviors are actually very bad if you do the same thing, yes, even though someone will feel pleasure, it will not last long or only for a moment because they are both There is a very big risk in life, namely experiencing huge financial losses and a person can experience very big depression if they are truly addicted.

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I call it a natural selection. Cool

You can't protect or helping all people especially if they're stupid, so if they're suffered cross addictions, at least they're still give a contribution, since they enrich both of drug sellers and the casino.

The drug sellers can feed their family and the casinos can run an advertisement that pays people to promote it. Tongue

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January 15, 2024, 03:49:53 PM
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I call it a natural selection. Cool

You can't protect or helping all people especially if they're stupid, so if they're suffered cross addictions, at least they're still give a contribution, since they enrich both of drug sellers and the casino.

The drug sellers can feed their family and the casinos can run an advertisement that pays people to promote it. Tongue

If this behavior is only self-defeating, then I will not comment further on those who are addicted to drugs and gambling. In reality, when they really feel addicted to these two things, it's not just themselves who will be affected, but starting with their parents, relatives and also their closest friends will also feel disadvantaged. And even people who don't know him at all will also be affected. Because not a few of them have an addiction to drugs and gambling, when they run out of money to buy drugs and to start gambling, they no longer hesitate if they have to sell their family's belongings without the knowledge of their parents, they no longer hesitate if they have to deceive relatives and friends. And they will no longer hesitate if they have to commit criminal acts of violence or murder in order to seize the wealth of their victims.


And you need to know that a drug addict cannot control himself well and often loses consciousness. So when they visit an offline casino, their presence could cause a commotion, which of course could cause discomfort for other visitors, so that some visitors decide to move to a safer and more comfortable casino location. So it can be concluded that the presence of drug addicts in gambling places could cause the casino to lose money, because the casino is likely to lose some of its visitors.

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January 15, 2024, 04:43:46 PM
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I confess that this is the first time I have heard about the possibility of someone becoming addicted to drugs and starting to gamble to get more money to finance their drug use, I think this is a rare case, who has lived as a drug addict age know very well that all people addicted to drugs, when they get money, immediately go to buy drugs, they will not put the only money they got into gambling, this is because the drug addict does not act out of rationality, he acts on impulse, in his head , he needs to run to consume drugs and get that feeling of pleasure that he feels when he consumes drugs, so why the hell would he take the little money he got to go lose in a casino?

drug addict doesn't do that, now we need to look at another scenario, in which a person is addicted to gambling and due to the great frustration of losing everything he enters the world of drugs, but he doesn't gamble to finance drugs, he consumes drugs to forget the problems. It is easier for a person addicted to gambling to consume drugs than for a person addicted to drugs to enter the world of gambling. Anyone who has seen people addicted to drugs how they behave knows what I'm talking about. drug addiction is constantly associated with prostitution when it is the case of women who are involved in drugs, this is because to finance their drug addiction, women choose prostitution

It is clear that in prostitution they contract many sexual diseases and die. while when men are addicted to drugs, they enter the world of crime: stealing money from people, kidnapping people and joining groups of big criminals. In this world of crime, the end for a drug addict is always death or prison. It is unlikely that a drug addict will play in a casino to get money for his addiction, he knows that he will not win anything in gambling, so he will go into the world of crime.

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January 15, 2024, 05:39:58 PM
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I wonder how he learned about gambling and thought it was something profitable because it's not gambling that is to be blamed in this case but the way he was taught about gambling that it's a way of profitability which is false and one can barely be profitable in gambling if they are playing gambling games, and if they are in sports betting, they need substantial knowledge and experience to be able to gain eventual success and start earning profit from it but that takes time as well.

So, it's misguidance that is to be blamed in this case and many others. If you tell a person everything very clearly, that if you gamble, you can lose everything in no time, or you might win a lot of money if you are lucky, and it's your choice whether you want to gamble or not and you should only gamble with the money that you can afford to lose. Then, the person would evaluate and decide for himself and then blame his own decisions for whatever had happened.

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January 15, 2024, 05:48:48 PM
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I think drugs compromise most of the activities in life. Now maybe some people know how to use it properly in terms of dosages and they never exaggerate, but this is rather the exception than the rule. As you said the topic is drug addicts, which implies that someone lost control over using a certain substance. But in contrast to things like caffeine, cocaine really compromises your thought processes and your decision making processes without a doubt. I'd be surprised if someone calls himself a better gambler because of cocaine usage. There might be circumstances where people could theoretically use it to improve their sharp thinking temporarily, but a well trained and healthily nurtured mind should be sharper than a brain of an addict pumped with cocaine.

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January 15, 2024, 08:03:54 PM
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I think drugs compromise most of the activities in life. Now maybe some people know how to use it properly in terms of dosages and they never exaggerate, but this is rather the exception than the rule. As you said the topic is drug addicts, which implies that someone lost control over using a certain substance. But in contrast to things like caffeine, cocaine really compromises your thought processes and your decision making processes without a doubt. I'd be surprised if someone calls himself a better gambler because of cocaine usage. There might be circumstances where people could theoretically use it to improve their sharp thinking temporarily, but a well trained and healthily nurtured mind should be sharper than a brain of an addict pumped with cocaine.

not cocaine in my opinion.
for many years i have been with many drug users, the methheads are usually the ones that take the drugs of use. until they abuse it. some of them work at night and taking meth keeps them up all night. and for critical thinking, they claimed that meth helps them in making good decisions. i play chess with those guys for many nights, they often checkmate me.

as for the cocaine man with the laundry business, he could have used his business to make more money than losing into gambling and drug addiction in one.









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January 15, 2024, 08:24:39 PM
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The thread might be lengthy but please "exercise that your investors demanded "patient" if you must achieve valuably along the runs".

A hard drugs (cocaine) addict from Nigeria who has a laundry (wash/dry cleaning shop) for source of his financial needs sustainability is verified to had advanced in his intake of his drugs addiction. To certain point he was not financially stable to purchase the drugs as his usual. While he had learnt about gambling as means of profitablity, he though it was to be so flexible and easy as that to bet and win to he could gain and further purchase the hard drugs or his addictions.
He was attracted to the sport betting after winning in some certain stakes while visiting the bet shop but as time goes, maybe he needed a relaxation to comfortably place his bet in his privacy which triggered him to download and registered on the online gambling sports casino. He had made more counts of losts than his winnings and yet could not take control of his emotions simply because he has a goal of desperacy in chasing profits in the gambling board just to gain some money and afford himself the drugs.
He was no more concentration on his laundry business til he ran out of cash to place more stake which to him to sell laundry accessories so he could fund his online gambling wallet account. And he ignorantly submitted himself to the gambling without realizing how his life is being ruined after countless times his has lost his stakes without a given countable profits any more in drugs addicts, his laundry and so on his gambling habitual ignorantic addition too.

This has attracted to a reminder referencing individuals whom had suicidedly lost their lives, those whom had countlessly lossed their valuables, those whom had been indebted and the atrociousnesses which has indicted individuals because of gambling.
This has also called on the aifs of a political and a social influencer calling to the attentions of the president of Nigeria to bring an end and cut off the accessibilities access to online sport betting in the country in other to main a better orderliness in the society because the states of miles Nigerians undergoes is being mentally worrisome which has also made a caused of depreciations of our fiat currency Naira(#). He further stated that if betting platforms could be moderated, then the lost of the currency values would regain and boosten back it's values. https://punchng.com/experts-fear-rise-in-mental-illnesses-over-addiction-to-betting-apps/

My question>>>
* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
Because to me, he has been a drug addict before began to gamble and he strictly gambled consciencelessly just to make profit and buy himself this assorted unhealthy pills (drugs). So, I don't see anyway of gambling being responsible for his irresponsible reputations with his mentality of what triggered him to gambling and his inabilities to control his gambling.

* Was the political social influencer right to say getting to an end of online sport bets in the app stores and the moderating of gambling would regain back the devalued currency and attracts a growing economy back to the nation a right acceptable and good research?
As much as I know, individual indulgences has no stake of influences to affect the national economy at where the government folds its hands of governance While counting national welfareness reliably of the vulnerable individuals. Although, getting to an end of online sport bets from the app stores would contribute to manage the number of psychological gambling addictive effects in the country.

* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
Even though the online casino gambling as influences on the massive audience, I don't think it has been in any strategic or physically enforced a compulsory venture to anyone that he must gamble.
I don't see gambling walking to the players instead the players walks to the gambles so, directly and indirectly gambling has an influence but has not path to be blamed over individuals irrepressible living on their caused of gambling.


Arguably cocaine could actual boost your chances compared to say cannabis or alcohol, which have much more depressive and disorientating effects than cocaine. Short term it will make you more focused and energetic, which if you've got intelligence already could make you sharper. However long term, which drug addicts almost always end up under, it will absolutely destroy your body and mind. No addiction is worthwhile really and you'll find that many older people say the key to a healthy life is moderation (of all things). If you over do anything in life, it can mess you up. I'd also suggest that a cocaine addict living in Nigeria (not a normal area of cultivation so likely imported) would be rather well off and living an entirely different lifestyle to the average person in that country already.

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