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January 14, 2024, 05:38:15 PM |
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Casinos that offer extra perks and bonuses for new users when they sign up under a referral or affiliate link are actually adding an extra layer of promotion for their products and services because they know that new users would sign up more easily if they see that they are getting something like a bonus or maybe a few free spins. This strategy is a very useful marketing tactic that casino platforms use, maybe not all of them use it but some casinos offer such things.
And talking about casinos that don't allow their customers to withdraw their winnings if the amount is large, I believe that has nothing to do with affiliates or referrers because a legit and reputable casinos wouldn't do that in the first place and if a casino has evil intentions, they wouldn't care doing that even apart from this scenario.
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January 14, 2024, 06:28:30 PM |
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Casinos that offer extra perks and bonuses for new users when they sign up under a referral or affiliate link are actually adding an extra layer of promotion for their products and services because they know that new users would sign up more easily if they see that they are getting something like a bonus or maybe a few free spins. This strategy is a very useful marketing tactic that casino platforms use, maybe not all of them use it but some casinos offer such things.
And talking about casinos that don't allow their customers to withdraw their winnings if the amount is large, I believe that has nothing to do with affiliates or referrers because a legit and reputable casinos wouldn't do that in the first place and if a casino has evil intentions, they wouldn't care doing that even apart from this scenario.
Yes that's right, this is nothing more than a new form of marketing strategy in addition to other larger marketing promotions that casinos usually do, simply put this is like connecting one player with another player by inviting one person whether it's a friend or anyone to register at a certain casino through the affiliation they share and as a benefit, those who invite will get a percentage from the casino in a certain bonus amount that they will get in their gambling account as a gift or bonus for the participation they have done by inviting others to register at one of the casinos they promote, And as you said that the bonuses can be useful to at least do a few rounds to try their luck with a note that does not have to spend personal funds. Makes sense, I also think that way and it's true that withdrawal problems have absolutely nothing to do with affiliates or promotional referrals that are there, because obviously anyway people who try to take advantage of affiliates to bring others in don't help the casino in terms of promotion? obviously, and for gamblers who experience withdrawal problems I think only those who make mistakes in their gambling activities, it could be that they do something suspicious so that the casino limits and makes it difficult to withdraw or even freezes their account. On the other hand in terms of affiliation there is absolutely no coercion from the casino to the gamblers, if there was a coercion to share then obviously all gamblers would not be comfortable engaging in this type of online gambling while on the other hand now most gamblers prefer this type of online gambling and that means affiliation really has nothing to do with the problem of the casino making it difficult to withdraw, this is something else.
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January 14, 2024, 07:11:13 PM |
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Casinos that offer extra perks and bonuses for new users when they sign up under a referral or affiliate link are actually adding an extra layer of promotion for their products and services because they know that new users would sign up more easily if they see that they are getting something like a bonus or maybe a few free spins. This strategy is a very useful marketing tactic that casino platforms use, maybe not all of them use it but some casinos offer such things.
And talking about casinos that don't allow their customers to withdraw their winnings if the amount is large, I believe that has nothing to do with affiliates or referrers because a legit and reputable casinos wouldn't do that in the first place and if a casino has evil intentions, they wouldn't care doing that even apart from this scenario.
I have never seen a casino that offers something like that to users who have the largest list of affiliates, usually some casinos offer bonuses and some free spins on certain bets, but not casinos that offer instant withdrawals for priority members already have a large list. affiliates, all Users get the same benefits for withdrawals regardless of the status of other members, however the casino may issue special rules regarding affiliates to provide ease of withdrawals for top 10 rankings in the user base with multiple affiliates.
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January 14, 2024, 08:34:31 PM |
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Do you have actual evidence that casinos are holding back withdrawals on accounts that won large amounts of money?
The reputable casinos have fast withdrawals, no matter how much you have won... it's just these smaller "shady" casinos with a small Bankroll that will stall withdrawals.
It is obvious that affiliate members will get prefferencial treatment, so this is not irregular in the industry. (Any company will give their VIPs better service)
A legit casino can stall withdrawals too if they think the player is shady enough or if they think the win is made in a shady way. And I think there are also reputable casinos who are up until now does manual withdrawals and the processing time for larger amounts can take longer because they may need more money or do some things. There is no need to worry about it though because we will surely get our payments once it's done. Affiliate members must be different from the VIP's. It was the VIP's are the ones who get preferential treatment because achieving this kind of status is not easy. And its name says it all (VIP or very important person).
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January 14, 2024, 08:49:23 PM |
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It is common for casinos to hire influencers to promote their casino sites in order to attract more users to join. Maybe they make an agreement that each member they bring will get a different bonus from other members. Most promotional events like this are limited or may be subject to rules. especially for new users
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January 15, 2024, 05:42:06 AM |
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I have not heard of any of the scenarios you are describing. If a casino is holding your withdrawal for a long time it is usually for a good reason. If they did it just to scam you it would hurt their reputation and cost them future profit. Signing up through an influencer's affiliate link should make no difference in how you are treated. Maybe if you have direct communication with that influencer they can use their connections to get your issue looked at and solved faster. There have been cases with campaign managers in this forum who have gotten people's problems resolved quickly by getting in contact with the casino who hired them.
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January 15, 2024, 08:05:23 AM |
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Any casino that has the intention of scamming its customers won't even mind, even if you are being referred by their biggest influencer, whose link is what you follow to join the casino. Casinos that don't want to pay will always impose a fine to void and sophisticate your money. Unless a casino has a good name to protect, they will be mindful of the kind of risk they will involve themselves in, and beside that, not all of these big influencers will be ready to speed up for their followers and submit their report to the casino concerning their delayed withdrawal, as most of them care most about what they gain from the casino for promoting them and not the issue the users will face afterwards.
It is really just that truly a shit thing when you do see some influencers that streaming out some shit sites or platforms on which as long they do get paid and they are really that given money then they would really be just simply doing their job. It would really be out of their work scope on acting to be a support whenever a certain gambler would really be experiencing some issues. If you dont like to experience those headaches then it would be better that you should really be avoiding these influencers to be followed on. You cant really make yourself that benefited on whatever things that they are sharing on. Speaking about benefits of affiliate links? It would really be just that good for those influencers itself.
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January 15, 2024, 09:51:51 AM |
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The problem that explained by @OP is he don't want to get scammed. Most of the time the casino doesn't offer something suspicious or too good to be true, but the influencer make a noise if the casino will give many benefits if they sign up using his referral link. So the blame should be put on the influencer instead of the casino. Yes, I understand it. Therefore, we should not only rely on influencers or review sites that we find there. As long as we don't know the casino is status, we don't need to try to register at the casino. And before we know more about the casino, we should hold back even if the influencer says that the casino is very good and will provide lots of prizes or other interesting promotions. We must take responsibility for finding the casino and not just leave it to the influencer. We also don't know the influencer's reputation, so caution is needed in this matter.
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January 15, 2024, 01:23:14 PM |
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Casinos that offer extra perks and bonuses for new users when they sign up under a referral or affiliate link are actually adding an extra layer of promotion for their products and services because they know that new users would sign up more easily if they see that they are getting something like a bonus or maybe a few free spins. This strategy is a very useful marketing tactic that casino platforms use, maybe not all of them use it but some casinos offer such things.
And talking about casinos that don't allow their customers to withdraw their winnings if the amount is large, I believe that has nothing to do with affiliates or referrers because a legit and reputable casinos wouldn't do that in the first place and if a casino has evil intentions, they wouldn't care doing that even apart from this scenario.
Yes that's right, this is nothing more than a new form of marketing strategy in addition to other larger marketing promotions that casinos usually do, simply put this is like connecting one player with another player by inviting one person whether it's a friend or anyone to register at a certain casino through the affiliation they share and as a benefit, those who invite will get a percentage from the casino in a certain bonus amount that they will get in their gambling account as a gift or bonus for the participation they have done by inviting others to register at one of the casinos they promote, And as you said that the bonuses can be useful to at least do a few rounds to try their luck with a note that does not have to spend personal funds. Makes sense, I also think that way and it's true that withdrawal problems have absolutely nothing to do with affiliates or promotional referrals that are there, because obviously anyway people who try to take advantage of affiliates to bring others in don't help the casino in terms of promotion? obviously, and for gamblers who experience withdrawal problems I think only those who make mistakes in their gambling activities, it could be that they do something suspicious so that the casino limits and makes it difficult to withdraw or even freezes their account. On the other hand in terms of affiliation there is absolutely no coercion from the casino to the gamblers, if there was a coercion to share then obviously all gamblers would not be comfortable engaging in this type of online gambling while on the other hand now most gamblers prefer this type of online gambling and that means affiliation really has nothing to do with the problem of the casino making it difficult to withdraw, this is something else. Modern casino affiliate programmes are exciting. All about relationships, right? If someone joins after I invite them, I get a thank you bonus. Its like a digital gambling community where every invite shows trust and fraternity. Theres more to it. My gambling experience has taught me to approach these bonuses with eagerness and care. They're great, but they shouldnt drive gambling. Gambling is about risk, strategy, and suspense. Extra bonuses are the cherry on top. You're right about withdrawal. Individual errors or contract violations are typically to blame. Casinos are companies and must protect themselves. We must know and follow the rules as participants. It's about balancing game excitement with conscious choices. Finally, responsible gambling is the key to great online gaming.
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January 15, 2024, 04:23:06 PM |
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From what I can understand, using a scam casino the person will be deceived and robbed even if the person has managed to get referrals for the casino, this is because the casino has hundreds of ways to get referrals and when the scam casino already knows that it has many customers and has already gotten a lot of money from customers, so the casino scam soon disappears because they know they can go and create another casino, they continue to be anonymous and rob people. Even those popular review sites also do not get paid at scam casinos, but there are few cases in which this happens. so what has been happening is that many casinos scam at first when they start operating
they keep paying the review sites, they keep paying the owners of YouTube channels, they keep paying the owners of Twitch channels to promote their casino, while the casino is managing to obtain many customers, the owners of the review sites, the owners on social media channels they make money with referrals and when the casino becomes a scam, all people are scammed, even the guys on social media channels, so the scammers keep paying to review sites and with that the scam casino continues to work and having more new customers, unfortunately many people are too lazy to do research on casinos before creating accounts, which is why they are targets of scam casinos
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I think it should still be based on how popular the influencer is. The more popular it is, the better it is because there is very little chance of cheating. And usually he will be responsible and help with the problems experienced by his referrals. You have to be selective in choosing gambling platform affiliates, because if you are only tempted by unreasonable bonuses, sometimes this is a trap. It is very important to assess the credibility of the influencers they collaborate with.
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Many youtubers and friends share their referral codes/affiliate links, saying you will get bonuses, real money, or free spins. but I wonder if casinos give extra help or benefits in some different situations.
For example, when someone wins a big multiplier and multiplies their account by 100x, then some casinos take a long time to process the withdrawal, or they may not even give the money. however, some say that if you sign up using a good affiliate or influencer affiliate code which have huge audience, then you won't face these type issues. also, if you promote the casino using your referral link, they might not hold back your withdrawal because you helped them get new customers.
is this kind of things is considered shady practice, or is it considered fair in the online gambling world?
I think this has nothing to do with casinos promoting via Youtube channels or being endorsed by famous Youtubers to guarantee that they are not a scam. These Youtubers get paid to stream their casino gambling, and share referral codes just for their extra income. I sometimes watch live streaming of online gambling Youtubers but I never take their games seriously, because they only play with fake money provided by the casino.
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is this kind of things is considered shady practice, or is it considered fair in the online gambling world?
To be honest, I've never heard of this, and it's quite surprising because it seems like there are privileges for those who can bring lots of players to a casino, and I doubt that really exists, because one of the review websites that can bring lots of players to one casino actually has problems with the system affiliate that the casino provides, so it seems like it doesn't exist unless there is a special collaboration or you as a person who can bring many players to one of the casinos also have access to the casino manager so that they can help when one of the referrals experiences problems with withdrawals or something else. If that is true, this can be considered a shady activity but it can also be considered a profitable collaboration because the affiliate will be able to confidently promote the casino because there is a guarantee that players who register via the link will get privileges, which will also provide benefits to the casino because many players will play at the casino.
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January 16, 2024, 07:33:02 AM |
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I think this has nothing to do with casinos promoting via Youtube channels or being endorsed by famous Youtubers to guarantee that they are not a scam. These Youtubers get paid to stream their casino gambling, and share referral codes just for their extra income.
I sometimes watch live streaming of online gambling Youtubers but I never take their games seriously, because they only play with fake money provided by the casino.
As long as the people watching the influencer are not tempted to register at the casino immediately, they will be safe even if it turns out that the casino is a scam. These people will not try to register before they find out more about the casino to know if the casino is legit or if it will become a scam. If people like you never take their gambling games seriously, they can avoid scam problems. But if those people are tempted to try the casino because they see that the influencer can win easily from the casino, they will sign up and deposit money to play straight away. That's what will make many people fall deeper into scam casinos. We have to be careful in choosing the casino.
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The problem that explained by @OP is he don't want to get scammed. Most of the time the casino doesn't offer something suspicious or too good to be true, but the influencer make a noise if the casino will give many benefits if they sign up using his referral link. So the blame should be put on the influencer instead of the casino. Yes, I understand it. Therefore, we should not only rely on influencers or review sites that we find there. As long as we don't know the casino is status, we don't need to try to register at the casino. And before we know more about the casino, we should hold back even if the influencer says that the casino is very good and will provide lots of prizes or other interesting promotions. We must take responsibility for finding the casino and not just leave it to the influencer. We also don't know the influencer's reputation, so caution is needed in this matter. I agree. For me, reputable casinos and sports bookies have a history of fixing the problems set by gamblers that are real. If their customer service cannot even find a way to fix this kind of matter then they will be off the list of the casinos that I will use. We have seen one casino here in the forum that is solid rock on not claiming they are not the one who made the mistake and because of that many members of the forum have been red-tagged because they are supporting them from advertising that casino. I will not name them but I do believe we already know the name. By simply fixing that matter, they could've been a gambling site that is next to the popular ones here in this forum. But they are resilient in that it is not their fault and won't answer the claims. IMO, that's bad business. If they think they are right and should be trusted, they simply need to show facts and proof. But, if there is none, fixing the problem is the best-case scenario to be a trusted gambling site and that will lead to more gamblers supporting them and maybe increase the number of players on their website. Reputation is such a hard thing to receive these days, but if you could prove that, people will flock near you.
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... is this kind of things is considered shady practice, or is it considered fair in the online gambling world?
That's completely normal as usual. It's common that friends share together some suggestion even good recommendation likewise a place to bet or some promotion. Just pay attention because some times there are "limits" likewise with betfair.com .
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January 16, 2024, 11:49:15 AM |
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I think this has nothing to do with casinos promoting via Youtube channels or being endorsed by famous Youtubers to guarantee that they are not a scam. These Youtubers get paid to stream their casino gambling, and share referral codes just for their extra income.
I sometimes watch live streaming of online gambling Youtubers but I never take their games seriously, because they only play with fake money provided by the casino.
As long as the people watching the influencer are not tempted to register at the casino immediately, they will be safe even if it turns out that the casino is a scam. These people will not try to register before they find out more about the casino to know if the casino is legit or if it will become a scam. If people like you never take their gambling games seriously, they can avoid scam problems. But if those people are tempted to try the casino because they see that the influencer can win easily from the casino, they will sign up and deposit money to play straight away. That's what will make many people fall deeper into scam casinos. We have to be careful in choosing the casino. Yes, but I'm never interested in casinos promoted by Youtubers because I know that they get paid for live streaming so they can't give objective reviews. I prefer to play on gambling sites that are on forums, in my opinion they are safer because they have ANN threads that can be used as a place to complain and there are lots of objective reviews from forum members. I also don't like watching videos that only show jackpots/bigwins because they are just fooling and don't upload videos when they lose. I prefer to watch in live streaming and very often I see them lose when playing on live streaming
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January 16, 2024, 12:36:02 PM |
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I have some past with referral and bonuses and I don't want to do it ever again, you will be stressed out and later find out that it's not even worth it, some casinos won't want to pay after you win with bonuses and some have tough requirements when people use your referral link.
I still prefer deposit bonuses but all together they are not that straight forward, you need people that are into gambling and when they use your link they must take actions, do some gambling with goof amount of money for you to get good rewards.
I think this is best for those who are streaming on YouTube and others, they already have good followers and also they are shilling those casinos with good videos, people will easily use their referral links and deposit some money for real, way better than someone who have no channel.
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January 16, 2024, 02:11:32 PM |
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Many youtubers and friends share their referral codes/affiliate links, saying you will get bonuses, real money, or free spins. but I wonder if casinos give extra help or benefits in some different situations.
For example, when someone wins a big multiplier and multiplies their account by 100x, then some casinos take a long time to process the withdrawal, or they may not even give the money. however, some say that if you sign up using a good affiliate or influencer affiliate code which have huge audience, then you won't face these type issues. also, if you promote the casino using your referral link, they might not hold back your withdrawal because you helped them get new customers.
is this kind of things is considered shady practice, or is it considered fair in the online gambling world?
I think this has nothing to do with casinos promoting via Youtube channels or being endorsed by famous Youtubers to guarantee that they are not a scam. These Youtubers get paid to stream their casino gambling, and share referral codes just for their extra income. I sometimes watch live streaming of online gambling Youtubers but I never take their games seriously, because they only play with fake money provided by the casino. Yes, that's the fact that we all know, don't be too serious and believe in watching their games, because they are just influencers and streamers who work for casinos, so what they play could be using fake money and they only aim to share some kind of affiliate link to get a bonus. For themselves, they also enrich themselves, usually they will give a very sweet lure to their audience that by registering via an affiliate link they can get bonuses or free spins and even be invited to play together directly. I also often watch gambling streams but never think that it is really a real win when they gamble. I'm not even sure that the amount they bet is real money. If they dare to do it with real money, of course they won't dare to be as big as the amount shown on the stream. , I'm sure the winnings are regulated by the casino, that's why it's important to be wise when gambling that the promotions and marketing we see from streaming are not completely genuine. The point is that playing gambling responsibly has made us good gamblers. If you don't really like registering using an affiliate link, you should just ignore it because you don't fully register using an affiliate link to get bonuses, let alone free spins. registering as usual would be even better. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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January 16, 2024, 03:12:26 PM |
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Many youtubers and friends share their referral codes/affiliate links, saying you will get bonuses, real money, or free spins. but I wonder if casinos give extra help or benefits in some different situations.
For example, when someone wins a big multiplier and multiplies their account by 100x, then some casinos take a long time to process the withdrawal, or they may not even give the money. however, some say that if you sign up using a good affiliate or influencer affiliate code which have huge audience, then you won't face these type issues. also, if you promote the casino using your referral link, they might not hold back your withdrawal because you helped them get new customers.
is this kind of things is considered shady practice, or is it considered fair in the online gambling world?
I don't think casinos will give consideration regardless of who you sign up with, you have no protection if you sign up for famous streamers or one of their VIP, affiliates are term based, if they find your account violating any of their terms they will ban you and confiscate you, if you have a big number of referrals do all you can to make your account clean so you continue to reap rewards of your effort of recruiting your referrals, and casino don't care if you have hundreds of referrals, you will not get VIP status as a super referral, in fact they change their affiliate terms for their referrals to lose their earnings, so be very careful on the kind of casino you're promoting.
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