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January 14, 2024, 06:18:33 PM
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Gambling for fun is a shit reason. You gamble to expect profit in return. Why gamble for only fun? It might be right that don't take gambling as a job or career but once you gamble, don't make it just for fun because losing is not fun. Even if you afford to lose that money used in gambling, you won't realize how much you are losing now just because you are having fun.

If you want to make fun, do other things instead, and don't gamble.
For you maybe. But, not all are the same mate. There really gamblers who play only for fun, especially if they are already rich. There is no point for them on making more money and they are wise guys. When they want to make more money, they know that they shouldn't do it inside a casino because their chance is only slim. Losing is not fun yes, but will you ever mind it? Why not treat that the money we pay is for us to play their games?

The fun part is in the process and not really in the outcome. If we are having fun, we will do what it takes. No amount can ever measure that. Also when you are gambling, counting losses is a worst idea and it's being frowned upon.

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January 14, 2024, 06:48:15 PM
 #82

Everyone's perception will be different about gambling for fun, for people who have stable finances and make money by working will think that gambling for fun is nonsense, this view will be different for people who make money not difficult such as entrepreneurs, because they there is no need to work hard to earn money so they think that every pleasure must be paid
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January 14, 2024, 08:10:31 PM
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The only people who could make a living from gambling are the ones who owns it, not the gamblers or player.
If you want to make a living out of it then stop being the player be the owner or invest/share holder.
It is hard to make a living from gambling if you are thw player.
Exactly, casino operators or those who created slot machines are the only ones that are going to make lots of money out of us. And even us gamblers knows how the game is being played here, still though, we are willing to take that risk and hope that someday we are going to win big. But to consider gambling as like as means to an end, to bring food in the table for your family on a daily basis? it's a wrong mindset.

There could be some successful gamblers, like professional poker and win millions in a tournament. But still skills are a requirement and it takes someone years to perfect his craft to become a pro poker and still not assurance that you can land in the top 10 and make a lot of money.
Those pro gamblers can still make money even if they don't make it to the top 10. They have nothing to worry about. But what about us? We don't have such kind of sponsorships, so we should be careful if we are playing gambling and better not treat it like a job, to earn daily profits. I know how gambling works and on the game that I play, I already know their max win there or how much I would cash out once I hit them, but that does not stop me from playing there.

This is because I only play for fun. I still enjoy my stay there, compared to those others who promise to pay a little better because the down side on them is you can rarely see a small win.

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January 14, 2024, 08:16:06 PM
 #84

Everyone's perception will be different about gambling for fun, for people who have stable finances and make money by working will think that gambling for fun is nonsense, this view will be different for people who make money not difficult such as entrepreneurs, because they there is no need to work hard to earn money so they think that every pleasure must be paid
On the time that you do into that point on which thinking that gambling is something that you would really be that be making that easy money or making it as a source of income or job
then you would definitely be putting up yourself on such condition or situation on which you would really be busting up yourself and ends up miserable when it comes to finances.
Why? There's no such thing about easy wins or constant wins even if we do speak about betting and card games. Its not something that could sustain living, well there might be some
individuals who could be able to do so but only a very few could be able to handle it out, this is why if you do pursue up on this way then most likely you do end
up on failure.
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January 14, 2024, 09:24:16 PM
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One of the reasons why people easily get addicted to gambling is when they start their journey into gambling just so they can solve their financial crisis.

Most of the people around me that are strongly into gambling and would even dress up in the morning as though they are going to work and go straight to the soccer betting shop are individual that don't have a job they are doing and that have seen people win big money through gambling and so all their mind is fixed at getting their own win also.

Some will even do small jobs just so they can get the money they will use in gambling with the mindset that it is through that gambling that they will be freed from poverty.

Once you find yourself in that condition just know that you are going to waste your time, money and energy in gambling and the reality is that most of the people that have a fixed mentality that they must win in their gambling are the ones that always loose their money in process.

Gambling is not a means to an end and their is no guarantee that you must win in the process so just do your prediction and enjoy the fun, if you win, thumbs up for you but if you don't win don't allow it get at you and don't assume you can always win back your money, learn and master the right time to walk away.
Seeing gambling as an escape means to solving your financial needs is even doing yourself more harm than good because you may end up loosing even the little you have with which you could have started already to fixing your problems but then the greed of wanting to get more or doubling the little you have can cost you all that you have got.

Getting a job so you will be able to find your gambling habit is as good as doing a free job for the casino. You are supposed to rather use your money you earned from your job to take care of yourself and later hope to use the remaining which you can spare to gamble and if you get lucky you get to double up your funds and get an extra fund for your sef to meet up with other needs, but approaching the casino with all your needs will definitely get you to loosing all your funds to the casino.

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January 15, 2024, 02:11:13 AM
 #86

Everyone's perception will be different about gambling for fun, for people who have stable finances and make money by working will think that gambling for fun is nonsense, this view will be different for people who make money not difficult such as entrepreneurs, because they there is no need to work hard to earn money so they think that every pleasure must be paid
On the time that you do into that point on which thinking that gambling is something that you would really be that be making that easy money or making it as a source of income or job
then you would definitely be putting up yourself on such condition or situation on which you would really be busting up yourself and ends up miserable when it comes to finances.
Why? There's no such thing about easy wins or constant wins even if we do speak about betting and card games. Its not something that could sustain living, well there might be some
individuals who could be able to do so but only a very few could be able to handle it out, this is why if you do pursue up on this way then most likely you do end
up on failure.
Exactly the truth is mate.

Like what in the other thread that we come to read last year(i cannot find the thread now but the answer is almost the same) that there are no one who
truly Enjoy losing , even those entrepreneurs that has making money in their business once they are in gambling it is the Winning
that they are seeking(only fool that will bet His money and can just leave the table without checking if His money won .

It is easy to talk about these and that in gambling but the truth is we really don't know what we are talking
as we did not experience such instead we are just talking about our opinions and this opinions are welcome but that does not stand about completely correct
not unless we have putted our feet in their shoes .

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January 15, 2024, 03:40:24 AM
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Good statement, basically everything the OP said is a fact that really happens, however gambling is not a place to earn, this is nothing more than an entertainment activity or like a playground that involves risk and there is no certainty and guarantee of any victory at the end of the session, everything there goes randomly, hence this is why we should not put any goals in gambling because there is absolutely no certainty as I said above.

For people who end up with addiction consciously and unconsciously are those who have the wrong point of view and understanding of gambling, I often see this mindset in someone who has a financially underprivileged background so when he hears that someone else or one of his friends managed to get a big win then obviously this is a motivation for him to get involved with the aim of getting the same results to fix his financial crisis which in the end the actual fact is just the opposite, instead of fixing the financial crisis but instead makes them suffer even more because of losing some money. For the typical gambler who is always chasing victory, they usually do not have the ability to accept defeat because it is not their goal and they intend to take revenge or chase victory to restore what they have lost and this is the cycle of addiction that can come consciously and unconsciously. In gambling, it doesn't matter if you are rich, if you get involved based on the wrong understanding then obviously you will end up in a slump.

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January 15, 2024, 03:42:41 AM
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The fun fact is like that. When there are lots of reviews or advertisements or videos about jackpots and big wins from other people, most irrational people will consider and use gambling as a shortcut to getting rich/getting big profits. For rich people or those who have a lot of money, gambling may be fun and it doesn't matter if the money they use decreases because they still have lots of assets to have fun with. This is different from the poor who have been wrong from the start about gambling, so it is normal and this will not just go away and people will continue to appear who think that gambling is a job and a place to make money.
That is a marker strategy and a company makes use of its money to hire influencers to grab attention and make a play of its hype.
It was okay for rich people to fall into this activity but the concern here is for the poor people who usually fall into addiction and compromise their financial stability and sometimes, a reason for loans and crimes.

It was really hard to educate people on how gambling works because they also have different views and they keep insisting that luck will come and that is their money.



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January 15, 2024, 04:42:38 AM
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Gambling for fun is a shit reason. You gamble to expect profit in return. Why gamble for only fun? It might be right that don't take gambling as a job or career but once you gamble, don't make it just for fun because losing is not fun. Even if you afford to lose that money used in gambling, you won't realize how much you are losing now just because you are having fun.

If you want to make fun, do other things instead, and don't gamble.
For you maybe. But, not all are the same mate. There really gamblers who play only for fun, especially if they are already rich. There is no point for them on making more money and they are wise guys. When they want to make more money, they know that they shouldn't do it inside a casino because their chance is only slim. Losing is not fun yes, but will you ever mind it? Why not treat that the money we pay is for us to play their games?
Even in losses, some still take it as fun and it helps them to maintain such if they are not risking too high in such a way that will hurt them when they lose. There are many games one can plan and the money to wager can be so ridiculously low in many of them especially if the bettor is using his local currency to bet it, so you just open your betting platform, go to your favourite casino and do the betting. You then continue to bet and laugh at both the lost and won games even as you continue to repeat the process until you are tired. But for those who would have $300 in the account for instance and bet all at once on all of the money, aside from the fact that they are not wise, they are still never going to enjoy the fun part even if they wanted to because that is foolishness as they didn't plan a good budget and have allowed greed of making money in a big form to cloud their judgement already.

You can also see that you do not have to be rich before you derive the fun in gambling, all is about the right planning and balanced psychology. Sadly, most people go to casinos with the mind of money-making and they want to make it really big, that is why they will never make the money but lose instead and continue to get hurt due to it and will in turn always view casinos as no fun and dangerous place.

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January 15, 2024, 05:08:01 AM
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Seeing gambling as an escape means to solving your financial needs is even doing yourself more harm than good because you may end up loosing even the little you have with which you could have started already to fixing your problems but then the greed of wanting to get more or doubling the little you have can cost you all that you have got.
Thinking of gambling as a place to earn income is certainly a wrong understanding if we think about it that way, because it is very difficult to be able to win consecutively in the gambling that we play and in my opinion, what we often get from the gambling that I play is that I often experience defeat from the gambling that I play. and can win occasionally but more often experience losses in gambling.

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Getting a job so you will be able to find your gambling habit is as good as doing a free job for the casino. You are supposed to rather use your money you earned from your job to take care of yourself and later hope to use the remaining which you can spare to gamble and if you get lucky you get to double up your funds and get an extra fund for your sef to meet up with other needs, but approaching the casino with all your needs will definitely get you to loosing all your funds to the casino.
Using a fund limit for gambling can prevent us from becoming addicted to gambling and if we can do this, it would be better for us to set an amount of money for gambling and not take the other money when we lose and can take the winnings if we have got them, because if we can't do it So of course we will spend more of the money we have on gambling than on other needs.

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January 15, 2024, 05:22:54 AM
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One of the reasons why people easily get addicted to gambling is when they start their journey into gambling just so they can solve their financial crisis.

Most of the people around me that are strongly into gambling and would even dress up in the morning as though they are going to work and go straight to the soccer betting shop are individual that don't have a job they are doing and that have seen people win big money through gambling and so all their mind is fixed at getting their own win also.


After reading this first part of the text, I remembered one of my neighbors who was having serious issue with his wife just because of a similar case. The whole thing was really funny too, the man is jobless and tend to put all his hopes on him securing a miraculous win from playing of bets so every morning he would dress up and even go wait for this particular betting shop that's close to me and I would wonder why would a man this big and handsome be doing here every morning and I later found out that he is into betting as a professional and his wife actually thinks he is working and everyday he would play or if he doesn't have money he will wait and beg from others playing so that they can borrow him and he would play too.

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Because gambling is a hobby, you can gamble whenever you like or whenever you want, it's not something you're forced to do it or have a regular schedule to gamble. To win in gambling is become a responsible gambler, that means you're mature enough to understand that gambling won't make money and you're fine with that. If you can stop to gamble completely, you're just not a gambler at all, but it's fine since not everyone must become a gambler.

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January 15, 2024, 05:37:00 AM
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I know many proffesional gamblers that are gambling full-time to make a income and some of them are very succesful.

You get proffesional Poker players and even pro sportbetting, where people do this as a full-time job.

Some gambling require skill and also knowledge and if you mastered that, then there are no reason why you cannot do that as a full-time job.

A lot of people started doing something as a hobby or just for fun, but at some time they did so well.. that they ditched their job and then made their hobby their full-time job.

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January 15, 2024, 05:55:17 AM
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Everyone's perception will be different about gambling for fun, for people who have stable finances and make money by working will think that gambling for fun is nonsense, this view will be different for people who make money not difficult such as entrepreneurs, because they there is no need to work hard to earn money so they think that every pleasure must be paid
Yes, what you say is correct, it's just that I need to correct it a little, maybe we've heard almost in several threads on this forum that we should gamble for fun, not just to make money, I also always emphasize that to every beginner, what I mean is It's all about mindset so it's not because we are rich gamblers or we are poor gamblers, we just use the mindset that is usually used by the rich gamblers you mean.

Every gambler will behave according to his thoughts, that's why our mindset must be like that of rich people, considering that gambling is just entertainment to have fun, so when we lose, we will think of it as something normal, even though I know we are poor gamblers, but don't If you ever use a mindset like a poor person, gambling for money and chasing wins or even jackpots, we won't really enjoy the game. Why is a mindset like a rich person useful because in my opinion it is an effective way to prevent yourself from getting addicted to gambling. if you don't want to  Grin

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January 15, 2024, 05:56:08 AM
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Because gambling is a hobby, you can gamble whenever you like or whenever you want, it's not something you're forced to do it or have a regular schedule to gamble. To win in gambling is become a responsible gambler, that means you're mature enough to understand that gambling won't make money and you're fine with that. If you can stop to gamble completely, you're just not a gambler at all, but it's fine since not everyone must become a gambler.
It should be like that for those who can use gambling as entertainment. But when they use gambling as a hobby, it will be difficult for them because they have to use more money. We know that activities that are used as hobbies can require us to spend more money. They shouldn't gamble at all to avoid losing more money. It will also prevent them from the gambling addiction that many gamblers experience. If they can stop gambling, they can save their money and will not experience the disappointment of losing at gambling.
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The fun fact is like that. When there are lots of reviews or advertisements or videos about jackpots and big wins from other people, most irrational people will consider and use gambling as a shortcut to getting rich/getting big profits. For rich people or those who have a lot of money, gambling may be fun and it doesn't matter if the money they use decreases because they still have lots of assets to have fun with. This is different from the poor who have been wrong from the start about gambling, so it is normal and this will not just go away and people will continue to appear who think that gambling is a job and a place to make money.
That is a marker strategy and a company makes use of its money to hire influencers to grab attention and make a play of its hype.
It was okay for rich people to fall into this activity but the concern here is for the poor people who usually fall into addiction and compromise their financial stability and sometimes, a reason for loans and crimes.

It was really hard to educate people on how gambling works because they also have different views and they keep insisting that luck will come and that is their money.

Yes, that's the reality. And this will never change. This strategy will continue and there will even be several developments. There will not be a big win for everyone, but it will only be available to some people. If everyone took gambling seriously and was a way to get rich then everyone would be rich, in fact only a few people would be able to get the big jackpot. This indicates that there is something or a risk that should be used as a warning that gambling is not a way to get rich and is not a job.

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January 15, 2024, 07:57:40 AM
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sometimes the situation is quite different, most people who have a small economy often get caught up in gambling and use it as a hope, in contrast to people who have enough economy they gamble with pleasure

The problem is that even people with good economy start gambling for pleasure but soon after they get sucked into lost sessions one after another which leads them too in a gambling addiction.There is nothing different,even though different type of persons start gambling for different reasons the end result is the same,both categories in the end are prone to gambling addiction,some a bit more some a bit less,in the end both categories have this risk.

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January 15, 2024, 08:08:13 AM
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One of the reasons why people easily get addicted to gambling is when they start their journey into gambling just so they can solve their financial crisis.

Most of the people around me that are strongly into gambling and would even dress up in the morning as though they are going to work and go straight to the soccer betting shop are individual that don't have a job they are doing and that have seen people win big money through gambling and so all their mind is fixed at getting their own win also.

1.Thinking that you could solve your financial crisis via gambling is plain stupid. There's no research about the subject, but I think that most of the gamblers aren't particularly smart.
2.You have to distinguish sports betting from the casino gambling. Some punters are making decent money out of sports betting. I have never seen anyone making consistent money out of playing roulette, slots, dice, etc. I know that sports betting and casinos are falling under the same category(gambling), but casinos are the way more about "hardcore gambling".
3."Just gamble for fun" is easier said than done. Nobody can deny that gambling is fun, but the fun part is what gets you addicted.
If gambling wasn't fun, nobody would get addicted.


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January 15, 2024, 08:33:24 AM
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The fun fact is like that. When there are lots of reviews or advertisements or videos about jackpots and big wins from other people, most irrational people will consider and use gambling as a shortcut to getting rich/getting big profits. For rich people or those who have a lot of money, gambling may be fun and it doesn't matter if the money they use decreases because they still have lots of assets to have fun with. This is different from the poor who have been wrong from the start about gambling, so it is normal and this will not just go away and people will continue to appear who think that gambling is a job and a place to make money.
That is a marker strategy and a company makes use of its money to hire influencers to grab attention and make a play of its hype.
It was okay for rich people to fall into this activity but the concern here is for the poor people who usually fall into addiction and compromise their financial stability and sometimes, a reason for loans and crimes.

It was really hard to educate people on how gambling works because they also have different views and they keep insisting that luck will come and that is their money.

Everyone is of concern in this, because anybody could be a victim; rich or poor. Battling with a problem is not cool for the human brain and behavior. It's necessary for gamblers to understand that their status doesn't change the problem. A rich person can get addicted and divorce his productivity at work. Wouldn't it affect his wealth on the long run? it's not certain if all the rich people would be able to struggle out of addiction successfully. Money can do everything, but we all need time to heal. Without time nobody gets better or worse on what they do. Since gamblers need time to adjust and understand gambling, a naive rich player can get himself into trouble during the early stages. Given time he'd begin to get better or worse.

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January 15, 2024, 11:11:28 AM
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I am wondering why they would stress themselves up, dressing up every morning just to pretend as if they are going to work only to land in a casino, why can't they stay indoor and do their thing online? When I started my online business years ago, many people start gossiping around that I am jobless, I don't mind them and today they are the one who are jobless, the situation of the country suddenly changed and they are making too less to none.

Online jobs are better than offline jobs, and in the near future everyone will have to submit to this, the best skills that make the most money are online based, anyway.

Many people don't know anything about gambling, they just see someone who won a lot of money and they decide to give their shot too, nothing bad here though but they proceeded in a very bad way, resulting into losing all their money, seeking for knowledge first is what many people don't respect and they pay the price the hardest ways.

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