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January 15, 2024, 05:55:01 AM
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A gambler must learn discipline to manage their money and also their time when gambling so that they do not lose large amounts of money. There are still many who cannot consider gambling as entertainment and instead want to make money from gambling.

So when I consider gambling as a way to make money, do I qualify to being called as indiscipline gambler? If you say yes, I would disagree with you, because for me, gambling is not only for fun when you can just expect to lose but you can also consider it as a way to make money if you believe you got some skills.

Although this is quite unusual, but do you think gamblers will keep coming back if they don't believe that there are gamblers who are making money in gambling? It's just a simple logic, the problem with most of us here is we thought that winning in gambling is quite impossible, which in reality not, it maybe hard to win but never think it's impossible as you are only killing the challenge.

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January 15, 2024, 06:06:28 AM
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Discipline may differ like courses we read in school. A gambler may be disciplined in managing his bank roll but can't repeat same expertise in managing the time he gambles. Hence, he won't get the actual fun of gambling. Because one needs to enjoy their habit for a little bit longer. If a gambler is not able to gamble with his bankroll up to the time it pleases him. Wouldn't deem himself as a gambler that those the right thing for himself. Therefore, if a gambler could manage his bank roll and battle with time management. He could end up failing himself someday. As these factors have similar connection, so is the brain and the body of the gambler. The player may not have the ability to sustain his money management skill if he's proficient in time management.
A gambler must learn discipline to manage their money and also their time when gambling so that they do not lose large amounts of money. There are still many who cannot consider gambling as entertainment and instead want to make money from gambling. That is why there are still many people who lose large amounts of money, and that is because they cannot control themselves while gambling. And even if you have a large bankroll, it will not guarantee that you will have good discipline because it depends on how you can manage the use of the money. But indeed, having a large bankroll can make someone bet big money and can also make them gamble longer than usual. They have to be careful if they have a large bankroll, and they should be able to control themselves well so they can avoid big losses.
If a novice gambler gambles with large funds, I can be sure that everything will be lost.
Financial control in gambling games is very important. This must also be balanced with emotional control. No matter how big your gambling capital is, if you can't control the game, all you'll do is play until the money runs out.
The wisest thing is to limit your finances for each game. say $1000 per play, then if you experience a losing streak until the money runs out, you have to stop and not decide to make another deposit to continue playing.

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January 15, 2024, 07:00:13 AM
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Do you believe that you will be more disciplined in sports betting if you have a dedicated bankroll?

According to the article I read, when you gamble without a proper bankroll, you are likely to make mistakes. One of the main errors is chasing losses because you are using money not intended for gambling, such as funds meant for paying bills and rent.

Let's consider an example:

Suppose you have a monthly salary of $500, and you can only afford to gamble $50, which is 10% of your salary. This $50 should ideally last for one month of gambling. However, if you don't treat it as your bankroll and believe you can replenish it from your salary when you lose, you are likely to lose focus. This may lead you to use funds that are meant for your basic needs.

So the question is, can you manage with $50 as your total monthly bankroll, or would you rather increase it and risk losing money that is not meant for such purposes?

It's hard to maintain discipline when maintaining a bankroll. Having such a bankroll is very helpful to set limits and prevent chasing losses. Allocating an example bankroll of $50 or a percentage of your salary encourages responsible gambling. A good bankroll mindset avoids financial problems and maintains discipline when it comes to betting.

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January 15, 2024, 09:15:27 AM
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That's true, I have seen a guy who used his school fee to gamble, he claimed that he was trying to help his father since his father is so broke that he can't pay for his school fees, funny thing is he use the last amount in his fathers bank account to gamble and lost everything, the home was filled with so many tears that day, I can't forget.

At first I was so mad, I felt like beating him up for putting his father in such position, but later he felt that this guy is full I'm of regrets too, till this day he have grown so much hate for gambling, people don't actually know what gambling is, they instead try to give a try in a stupid way.

It's not even about having the bankroll only, your expectation in gambling will finish you if you are not careful, what you have in your head is what will control your ways with gambling, one minute you decide to only use $50 in gambling and another minute you start feeling like a magician and you will increase the bankroll yourself.

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January 15, 2024, 09:27:28 AM
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If a novice gambler gambles with large funds, I can be sure that everything will be lost.
Financial control in gambling games is very important. This must also be balanced with emotional control. No matter how big your gambling capital is, if you can't control the game, all you'll do is play until the money runs out.
The wisest thing is to limit your finances for each game. say $1000 per play, then if you experience a losing streak until the money runs out, you have to stop and not decide to make another deposit to continue playing.
Financial control also know as good money or risk management is very important yet lacking in most novice or newbie gamblers and even amongst some experienced gamblers aswell ,some of them know so well about it but are just carefree or feel they can go against the odds and still be lucky so they don't have to apply all of such.

Like you rightly stated again emotional control is another one lacking which if a gambler doesn't have, they just keep playing till they exhust all that they have and that's why it's very important not to get emotional gambling and not bring to the casino that which you can afford to lose because you may eventually end up loosing it all but as an emotionally intelligent gambler, it's very important that you exit immediately you find out that you are becoming emotional and you are suffering a loosing streek, same applies to winnings too when you having series of wins you may become too excited and want to add to your stakes .

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January 15, 2024, 09:35:30 AM
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Although this is quite unusual, but do you think gamblers will keep coming back if they don't believe that there are gamblers who are making money in gambling? It's just a simple logic, the problem with most of us here is we thought that winning in gambling is quite impossible, which in reality not, it maybe hard to win but never think it's impossible as you are only killing the challenge.

Those newbies who get into gambling of course have people that they see who gamble and they have seen them make profit which encourage them to gamble also. They didn't wake up to start gambling, it came out of their mind while some were influenced to try and from there they became even addict gamblers. So yes you are right that people win money which is the reason new people join in gambling because they see winners within there areas. However, as a newbie you don't have to take the same risk that old gambler is taking. You have to guide your bankroll until you have mastered your strategy.
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January 15, 2024, 09:50:14 AM
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A gambler must learn discipline to manage their money and also their time when gambling so that they do not lose large amounts of money. There are still many who cannot consider gambling as entertainment and instead want to make money from gambling.

So when I consider gambling as a way to make money, do I qualify to being called as indiscipline gambler? If you say yes, I would disagree with you, because for me, gambling is not only for fun when you can just expect to lose but you can also consider it as a way to make money if you believe you got some skills.

Although this is quite unusual, but do you think gamblers will keep coming back if they don't believe that there are gamblers who are making money in gambling? It's just a simple logic, the problem with most of us here is we thought that winning in gambling is quite impossible, which in reality not, it maybe hard to win but never think it's impossible as you are only killing the challenge.

Winning can be anything to any gambler. Generalizing that when one wins money in gambling that he wins, shouldn't a permanent, complete thought, we can do better. A lot of things are being done in the casino and most of it has nothing to do with winning money. Because on the long run, the money goes back to the house, hence the gambler didn't win any money in the first instance. Hence, gamblers tend to win other things like discipline, earning skills, associating with other gamblers, and meeting business deals on casino tables. What matters is that money circulates in the casino and gamblers know this, hence the lucky player goes home happy with some funds, which attracts him back to gamble again. Periodically winning helps gamblers to visit the casino again, which is part of the game. There will never be gambling if there are no win or loss. If the casino doesn't guarantee any win, why then would people stake money to gamble. That would be an NGO instead of being called a casino.

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January 15, 2024, 10:43:17 AM
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A gambler must learn discipline to manage their money and also their time when gambling so that they do not lose large amounts of money. There are still many who cannot consider gambling as entertainment and instead want to make money from gambling.

So when I consider gambling as a way to make money, do I qualify to being called as indiscipline gambler? If you say yes, I would disagree with you, because for me, gambling is not only for fun when you can just expect to lose but you can also consider it as a way to make money if you believe you got some skills.

Although this is quite unusual, but do you think gamblers will keep coming back if they don't believe that there are gamblers who are making money in gambling? It's just a simple logic, the problem with most of us here is we thought that winning in gambling is quite impossible, which in reality not, it maybe hard to win but never think it's impossible as you are only killing the challenge.
That's not what it means. We don't expect to lose when playing gambling, but we only use gambling as entertainment. That's different from hoping to lose when gambling because whatever happens when gambling, you can accept it. And if you think of gambling as a way to make money, you can see that many have experienced losses. But if you can really make money from gambling, that means one of the people who can do it, which is a great achievement. But you must remember to keep control of yourself because, without that, you will only get carried away by your emotions and lose a lot of money.

Gamblers who frequently experience losses will return to gambling. Whether they believe in gamblers, who can make money, whether they want to recover their losses, or just want to get back to having fun from gambling, that will be the reason for each gambler. The important thing is that we don't gamble excessively because we already know what impact we will receive from gambling. It may be difficult to win from gambling, but it is not impossible.

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If a novice gambler gambles with large funds, I can be sure that everything will be lost.
Financial control in gambling games is very important. This must also be balanced with emotional control. No matter how big your gambling capital is, if you can't control the game, all you'll do is play until the money runs out.
The wisest thing is to limit your finances for each game. say $1000 per play, then if you experience a losing streak until the money runs out, you have to stop and not decide to make another deposit to continue playing.
This can happen if a novice gambler does not have self-control, so he cannot control his emotions to stop his gambling game. Most beginner gamblers will feel challenged to win their gambling games, so they will play gambling continuously until they can win. But in reality, winning the gambling game is still difficult for them, and in the end, their money will run out.

Yes, they can only limit their gambling activities and also their money so as not to lose large amounts of money. If they still spend a lot of money gambling, it is only a matter of time before they really lose all their money and become bankrupt because of excessive gambling.

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Although this is quite unusual, but do you think gamblers will keep coming back if they don't believe that there are gamblers who are making money in gambling? It's just a simple logic, the problem with most of us here is we thought that winning in gambling is quite impossible, which in reality not, it maybe hard to win but never think it's impossible as you are only killing the challenge.

Those newbies who get into gambling of course have people that they see who gamble and they have seen them make profit which encourage them to gamble also. They didn't wake up to start gambling, it came out of their mind while some were influenced to try and from there they became even addict gamblers. So yes you are right that people win money which is the reason new people join in gambling because they see winners within there areas. However, as a newbie you don't have to take the same risk that old gambler is taking. You have to guide your bankroll until you have mastered your strategy.

There is where that discipline will sink in. As always, you have to ensure that " you gamble based on what you can afford", there's no exact figure here as we have different financial status. So if you see a gambler who could risk $1000 per bet, don't try to follow if you aren't even earning $2000 a month as most likely that gambler is making $100k or more per month to be able to risk that huge amount.

We should not be too focus with the shortcut in gambling, if we aim to win millions, then make sure you have the skills and try to get it slowly but surely. If you go the fastest way by winning through jackpot, then most likely you'll end up losing based on statistics.

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January 15, 2024, 01:04:36 PM
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That's true, I have seen a guy who used his school fee to gamble, he claimed that he was trying to help his father since his father is so broke that he can't pay for his school fees, funny thing is he use the last amount in his fathers bank account to gamble and lost everything, the home was filled with so many tears that day, I can't forget.

At first I was so mad, I felt like beating him up for putting his father in such position, but later he felt that this guy is full I'm of regrets too, till this day he have grown so much hate for gambling, people don't actually know what gambling is, they instead try to give a try in a stupid way.
His wrong interpretation about gambling made him hate gambling which is bad. If at first he did a quick research and didn't think gambling gives easy money, he would not be in the position that he would gamble the last money. They say gamble what you can afford to lose, this person can't afford to gamble since his family is struggling financially, his action alone was already wrong, regardless of the outcome, because if he had won, there's no guarantee that he will quit and just keep the money, For sure he will be greedy and will try to push his luck.

It's not even about having the bankroll only, your expectation in gambling will finish you if you are not careful, what you have in your head is what will control your ways with gambling, one minute you decide to only use $50 in gambling and another minute you start feeling like a magician and you will increase the bankroll yourself.

This is a different kind of scenario, what OP was referring are for experience gamblers who do and doesn't have a good bankroll, and their respective experience. For me, with a good bankroll, I tend to be more serious.

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a gambler must have an allocated bankroll to be able to maintain their financial condition well, because without a clear bankroll allocation a gambler will tend to use their money unwisely and they will gamble as they please. but apart from that, gamblers also need responsibility and good discipline to be able to ensure that they continue to gamble according to the bankroll they have allocated, so that their gambling practices will be better with a combination of allocated bankroll and good discipline.

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Do you believe that you will be more disciplined in sports betting if you have a dedicated bankroll?



It can only be possible for a responsible gambler, they allocate, they discipline themselves to make sure that they follow their bankroll, but those who lack control they lack don't care about their bankroll all they want is to win and they keep on trying as long as they can fund their account, how you manage your bankroll is the measure how discipline you are, so if you cannot manage your bankroll properly, you are risk of losing a lot of money.
Irresponsible gamblers start with small bankrolls but because he is out of control he keep adding until they have no awareness of how much money they are losing.

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Having a designated bankroll shows respect for the game and your finances. Control and consciousness. Bet $50 from your salary to show self-discipline. Bets are fun, but being a responsible adult is more important. You're playing a strategic game against money and life stability odds

I always admire sports betting gurus' devotion and analysis. Respect is needed in this intriguing environment. I don't have time to create a sports betting career, but I see the appeal. Managing that $50 is more than financial prudence - it's a commitment to not letting a hobby compromise your basics. Remember, good gambling is about controlling your life and decisions, not just how much you win or lose. Smart betting and life are both important

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January 15, 2024, 01:50:05 PM
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If a novice gambler gambles with large funds, I can be sure that everything will be lost.
Financial control in gambling games is very important. This must also be balanced with emotional control. No matter how big your gambling capital is, if you can't control the game, all you'll do is play until the money runs out.
The wisest thing is to limit your finances for each game. say $1000 per play, then if you experience a losing streak until the money runs out, you have to stop and not decide to make another deposit to continue playing.
Financial control also know as good money or risk management is very important yet lacking in most novice or newbie gamblers and even amongst some experienced gamblers aswell ,some of them know so well about it but are just carefree or feel they can go against the odds and still be lucky so they don't have to apply all of such.

Like you rightly stated again emotional control is another one lacking which if a gambler doesn't have, they just keep playing till they exhust all that they have and that's why it's very important not to get emotional gambling and not bring to the casino that which you can afford to lose because you may eventually end up loosing it all but as an emotionally intelligent gambler, it's very important that you exit immediately you find out that you are becoming emotional and you are suffering a loosing streek, same applies to winnings too when you having series of wins you may become too excited and want to add to your stakes .
Financial control in gaming, especially for beginners, is like balancing without a nett. Many jump in without considering the basic rule: "Only wager what you can afford to lose." A classic trap, right? Fun and irresponsibility merge when quick wins are tempting.

I learned from my experiences to treat gambling as entertainment, not a cash stream. I set aside a "fun fund" - money I can part with. My fundamentals are safe, and the game remains a thrill, not a financial risk. As with movie tickets, you're there for the experience, not the ROI.

Also, emotional control? Thats gambling's MVP. Even the coolest cats spiral when losing control. My mantra: "Stay frosty." I tell myself that losing is part of the game. When emotions arise, I move back. Knowing when to say, "Thats enough excitement for today!" is crucial to enjoying gambling.

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Do you believe that you will be more disciplined in sports betting if you have a dedicated bankroll?

Yes absolutely, how you manage your bankroll defines your attitude toward gambling, you will never be a responsible gambler if you do not take your allocation seriously, this is where gamblers first lose control of themselves.
When they do not know how to stop they never look on their bankroll all they care for is to win and if they lose they want to recover their losses right away.
I always see to it that no matter what happens I manage my bankroll properly it's not easy, you need to motivate yourself and remind yourself when and how to stop so if I put $100 for a two-week allocation I need to make sure that $100 will last until the next payroll to fund my bankroll.

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On several occasions we tend to make such mistakes along with the ways we spend money when we have it in our balance at some point because, on some occasions I have made those mistakes when I receive my payment and forget to withdraw my weekly gambling budget at some point I get carried away to place more bets than required and some time bets end up losing making me to go on a lost balance at the end of the day.

This experience have made it more difficult for me to disobay my budget bankroll amount at any moment, let say weay oray not experienced the same outcome with all of this because some may choose to take such risk of going beyond the bankroll budget and still end up winning big rewards to walk home with.



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January 16, 2024, 01:51:33 AM
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Do you believe that you will be more disciplined in sports betting if you have a dedicated bankroll?
This seems to be true, because players not only like to chase losses but are also often dissatisfied with the profits obtained so the way to do this is to increase the budget if what has been budgeted is not able to provide the expected profits.

So the question is, can you manage with $50 as your total monthly bankroll, or would you rather increase it and risk losing money that is not meant for such purposes?

I will stick to the limit that has been determined and if I intend to increase I will consider the available funds more than the desire to chase losses or because I want to get more than both there is no certainty and what is more certain is that I could lose more funds, and if that is the result of increasing budget, it can damage your finances if it is not money that is intended for gambling.


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January 16, 2024, 07:50:22 AM
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So the question is, can you manage with $50 as your total monthly bankroll, or would you rather increase it and risk losing money that is not meant for such purposes?
I will stick to the limit that has been determined and if I intend to increase I will consider the available funds more than the desire to chase losses or because I want to get more than both there is no certainty and what is more certain is that I could lose more funds, and if that is the result of increasing budget, it can damage your finances if it is not money that is intended for gambling.
Yes, I agree with you. It is indeed better to stick to the limits that we have set than to increase the amount of capital because that does not guarantee that we can win the gambling game. By sticking to the limit, we have tried to control the use of money for gambling so that we will not have the desire to increase the amount of capital. And even though we can win later, we won't be interested in increasing capital. We will return to managing the capital according to the initial level so that we don't lose a lot of money. Gamblers really need to be aware of this so that they don't become greedy when they can win. Moreover, there will be a lot of losses that will come to us if we use more money.

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January 16, 2024, 11:49:25 AM
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That is what it means to be disciplined in managing your money. Whatever amount of bankroll we will use, if we cannot be disciplined in managing the money for gambling, we will only use more money. Especially if the promotions given by the casino easily tempt us. We will only use more money to gamble, and we forget the discipline that we should have and apply when gambling. This disciplined attitude can be applied in sports betting or casino games and can avoid many losses. Even if you place a bet on sports betting, with your discipline, you can prevent many losses. However, we realize that training discipline is difficult, and only a few people succeed in training it until they have good self-discipline. That's why we must keep practicing it to control ourselves.

We can act like professional gamblers and learn what they have learned so that we can improve our gambling skills. And although it takes time until we really have a good level of self-discipline, it is still worth practicing to avoid unnecessary trouble. So with that discipline, we can behave and act like professional gamblers and enjoy gambling as entertainment. That's why we will not consider gambling a way to make money.
In fact, disciplined attitude has been possessed and embedded in everyone without exception, it just that sometimes many gamblers forget discipline and they turn this attitude into carelessness.
Isn't this the reality, there are lots of gamblers who always act like experts who are able to make win on every bet and they use massive amounts of money to make bigger wins.
But in the end they are just gamblers who are full of disappointment and really don't accept what has happened, they will be like people who have lost their way because of big losses and in the end have lot of loans just to recover their losses.

I have been in the gambling industry for quite some time and have certainly managed to study my personal experiences as well as the experiences of other gamblers.
Indeed, when most gamblers are addicted or blinded by excessive ambition, they will never be able to control themselves and be disciplined in managing their money and time for gambling.
There will never be any prevention before they can really change their mindset and ambitions in gambling.

And experience is the most valuable teacher to learn from, plus learning from professionals will make it easier for us to have an attitude that can be more than just skills but more responsible.
It doesn't matter how much time it takes, as long as it good for us and useful, we still have to do it.

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January 16, 2024, 04:45:24 PM
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In fact, disciplined attitude has been possessed and embedded in everyone without exception, it just that sometimes many gamblers forget discipline and they turn this attitude into carelessness.
Isn't this the reality, there are lots of gamblers who always act like experts who are able to make win on every bet and they use massive amounts of money to make bigger wins.
But in the end they are just gamblers who are full of disappointment and really don't accept what has happened, they will be like people who have lost their way because of big losses and in the end have lot of loans just to recover their losses.

I have been in the gambling industry for quite some time and have certainly managed to study my personal experiences as well as the experiences of other gamblers.
Indeed, when most gamblers are addicted or blinded by excessive ambition, they will never be able to control themselves and be disciplined in managing their money and time for gambling.
There will never be any prevention before they can really change their mindset and ambitions in gambling.

And experience is the most valuable teacher to learn from, plus learning from professionals will make it easier for us to have an attitude that can be more than just skills but more responsible.
It doesn't matter how much time it takes, as long as it good for us and useful, we still have to do it.
Because many gamblers forget discipline, this is what causes many gamblers to experience carelessness in gambling, causing many problems ranging from losing more money to experiencing gambling addiction. Many gamblers have lost a lot of money while gambling, and most of them become more greedy, especially after they win. They forget that it is a warning for them to stop gambling after winning because if they don't stop immediately and instead continue gambling, they could lose their winnings, which are also used for gambling. This will make them disappointed with their defeat, so it will make them continue their gambling game again.

Learning from other people's experiences and the experiences we get is very necessary to prevent bad experiences from happening to us. We can also learn what is needed to be responsible when playing gambling so that we don't experience many losses. Having a sense of responsibility when playing gambling will help us manage money for gambling so that we can gamble and stay within limits.

And yes, experience is the most valuable teacher, and I agree with that. We need many things to become a professional gambler because no one can guarantee that we can remain responsible while gambling. By continuously practising responsible gambling skills, we can improve our abilities so that we can also enjoy gambling as entertainment.

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