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January 14, 2024, 01:11:13 AM
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Well, some months ago, I almost asked the same question out of curiosity and was surprised at the quality of the post that did not receive merit on the gambling board.

But on a second thought, I have received merit once or twice on the gambling board, and that confirmed to me that merit is not restricted on the gambling board.

But what happened is that, just as merit doesn't usually flow so often on the off-topic board, on the politics and society board, speculation board, and many other boards, that's how merit is not usually distributed so often on the gambling board.

My guess is that most merit sources are not gamblers, so without visiting the gambling threads so often, they will not drop merit on posts unless they visit the board, which they don't.

Not only that merit sources are not gamblers, that may explain some of the lack of merit volume on the gambling board, but in reality, you should also keep in mind that there are users there who are holders of smerit and yet choose to use them on other boards instead.
I have never had a doubt on whether it was possible to send or receive merits there in the Gambling board, because I have myself received some merits and sent some as well.
My guess is that there are better places where to find content which is of better quality, like the Bitcoin section, the reputation section or even the Development section. Places where users are required to actually help others with their posts, or share information about software or hardware.

In the gambling section it is possible to find good quality in people who share gambling scripts or code, or meanful stories. I personally merited a gambler who got in debt, because he tried to chase losses in Blackjack.

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January 14, 2024, 01:13:16 AM
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Please is there anything I am yet to understand about the gambling section whereas other sections are circulating merits enough, even our Nigerian local board merits source needs to increased his allocation if not for someone who has volunteered to be sending across the locals.
Though have promised myself not to raised any topic that talks about merits maybe it seems I will have to apply as one who knows if I will accepted, and the issues here is that theymos isnt giving us enough attention that is needed. I know he is a very busy person yes I don't need to bug him because there is a lot to face on but at least he should recognized us by additionally adding one merits source to us we the Nigeria local board and the child board we the local poster will forever be grateful for that.
How many active Nigerian posters are there? I'm sure that will factor into the decision on whether to add more merit sources for that board as well as the quality of the posters in that section might play a role in the decision as well.

I think we have plenty of merit sources personally, but not my call. Gambling board has a lack of merits due to the content being posted. A large % of the posts on the gambling boards is spam and deserves 0 merits.

People worry too much about merit. It'll come when it comes. It's not a race around here to rank up regardless of you wanting to earn more in a signature campaign. Most could care less if users rank up or not. Don't be in a rush.

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January 14, 2024, 02:36:36 AM
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I know this thread is not that called for but I don't know if there is any restrictions sets on the gambling board because from my view and understanding I noticed other board are free from meriting posts that are quality enough I have also gone through the gambling sections there are quality post I do finds out but I can't barely merits them because I am not a merits source neither do I have merits to spray like those who are with enough merits to send across.
If you find quality posts in gambling board, you can report those posts to merit sources.

Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source

Did you report any quality post from Gambling board in that thread?

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January 14, 2024, 03:32:29 AM
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Correct, the merit button was broken in gambling board, that's why I can't merit you Undecided



How many active Nigerian posters are there? I'm sure that will factor into the decision on whether to add more merit sources for that board as well as the quality of the posters in that section might play a role in the decision as well.
Many, but there's no point to have merit sources in their local board, you can check the @OP merit history and hopefully you will understand what I mean. Roll Eyes

Not only gambling board but also trading discussion. Most merits source do not like boards that deals with some risks.
The output of trading is profit, AFAIK no one dares to show their own signal/prediction since it will risk their reputation. If someone has a good trading history and many people get benefit from the signal/prediction, I think it will encourage people to meriting him.

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I have also gone through the gambling sections there are quality post I do finds out but I can't barely merits them because I am not a merits source neither do I have merits to spray like those who are with enough merits to send across.



If you like a post, why are you hesitant to give it merit?? It doesn't matter where he is. But you give yourself away by saying that you cannot give away your merits because you have come up with a completely unimportant reason for yourself. Your post is quite calculated, speaking about the gambling section, you smoothly transfer the problem to your local section. As a result, the meaning of the post comes down not to the fact that you are allegedly worried about the lack of sources of merit in the gambling section, but the main thing is a request for an additional source of merit for the Nigerian section.
You offer yourself as a candidate for a source of merit. That's the only way I see it.
But you can make a separate post-presentation in which you can prove which posts you consider undervalued, and you, being the source of merit, would notice them. Isn't that what people do who want to become sources of merit?
On the other hand, if you look at how you distribute your merits, then instead of giving 3–4 merits to one person, you could easily appreciate a high-quality post in the gambling section by giving one merit each

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Correct, the merit button was broken in gambling board, that's why I can't merit you Undecided



I think this restrictions was only sets from your account, my merit button is active and if I had enough merits i don't mind sending to them that worth meriting maybe who knows if same restrictions is also placed on other posters that was why merits has been in low supply over there.

I have also gone through the gambling sections there are quality post I do finds out but I can't barely merits them because I am not a merits source neither do I have merits to spray like those who are with enough merits to send across.



If you like a post, why are you hesitant to give it merit?? It doesn't matter where he is. But you give yourself away by saying that you cannot give away your merits because you have come up with a completely unimportant reason for yourself. Your post is quite calculated, speaking about the gambling section, you smoothly transfer the problem to your local section. As a result, the meaning of the post comes down not to the fact that you are allegedly worried about the lack of sources of merit in the gambling section, but the main thing is a request for an additional source of merit for the Nigerian section.
You offer yourself as a candidate for a source of merit. That's the only way I see it.
But you can make a separate post-presentation in which you can prove which posts you consider undervalued, and you, being the source of merit, would notice them. Isn't that what people do who want to become sources of merit?
On the other hand, if you look at how you distribute your merits, then instead of giving 3–4 merits to one person, you could easily appreciate a high-quality post in the gambling section by giving one merit each

Hey sis from another country.. Trust you are Good?
Sorry I am already lacking sMerits to distribute to those post, so if had there isn't a way i wouldn't have got those post merited and again, I have two post joined together I was asking about gambling board at same time speaking about our local board since it is also important to talk about it. The main reason why talks about gambling board is for my little period of being active i hardly come across post they merited even though i still finds them worthy i don't know if others don't see them as quality as i could this actually propelled me to say then if no merits source then I can become one but with the numbers of application queuing and piping down there how will my application be approved without considering others first before me. So there is no other agenda over here than my local board and gambling board these are the main reason for my post. Hope i got you clarified now?

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January 14, 2024, 03:47:37 PM
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I try to send merits to posts there but it's very difficult to find quality posts. I find it hard to even read some of the messages. It's the most active section of the forum, but it's so scarce in terms of merit. Because of spammers, good messages are lost in the shuffle. I think it's important to have an active gambling section for the sake of forum and I would suppport any idea to increase the quality and the merit circulation there.

I have received a couple of merits on the gambling board mainly for OPs than for comments made. While I believe that there are still meritable posts on that board, I share your views that most of them are "lost in the shuffle."

I also want to see more topics merited there as it is one of the boards where I am most active on. My suggestion is that there should be more moderators on the board who would help keep there clean. Additionally, Mega threads that are not football or sports thread should be locked after a certain number of pages. Lastly, there should be more merit sources mainly for the gambling board.

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January 14, 2024, 04:39:58 PM
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Ok, what you can merits in topics like ''Do you think gamblers do retired betting gambles'' or in 1155th page of topic about one football leagues? I don't argue, there is good posts made in this board, but they get lost in sea of boring generic shitposts just after few minutes. C'mon, even people who are posting here barely reads other posts, so, don't expect that merit sources will search for merit worthy posts there.
Though, I don't think that merit distribution is such bad in Gambling/Gambling discussion board. Maybe you're just posting in wrong topics. From what I noticed, most merits are rewarded in self-moderated topics, topics of prediction pools andin general, topics with less activity. And maybe your posts just aren't good enough to get merited?

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January 14, 2024, 04:56:48 PM
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I know this thread is not that called for but I don't know if there is any restrictions sets on the gambling board because from my view and understanding I noticed other board are free from meriting posts that are quality enough I have also gone through the gambling sections there are quality post I do finds out but I can't barely merits them because I am not a merits source neither do I have merits to spray like those who are with enough merits to send across.
The reason why the quality posts in the gambling section are not mostly merited is that it's not among the sections focussed on the merit source and most of the posts in the section are always about gambling and things that do not provide helpful information for the newbie but it's mostly about marketing.
I believe this is the reason why merit sources don't focus on the section not that there is a certain restriction for merit in the section.

Please is there anything I am yet to understand about the gambling section whereas other sections are circulating merits enough, even our Nigerian local board merits source needs to increased his allocation if not for someone who has volunteered to be sending across the locals.
I don't count merit getting through the local board as merit that is worth it.

Though have promised myself not to raised any topic that talks about merits maybe it seems I will have to apply as one who knows if I will accepted, and the issues here is that theymos isnt giving us enough attention that is needed.
I don't know if Theymos is busy but I am sure that it take time for him to accept the merit source application filed by a reputable high-rank member of this forum.

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there might be posts that you find that deserve to be merited but overall the gambling board just does not have enough meritable posts compared to other boards, there are also a lot of spammers on the gambling board and it's probably the reason why people are reluctant to give merits on that board.

Correct, the merit button was broken in gambling board, that's why I can't merit you Undecided
that's weird mine is perfectly fine, could it be a bug or a glitch? you made this post almost 2hrs ago, does it still look like that?

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January 14, 2024, 05:07:12 PM
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AFAIK, there are no active merit source in the gambling section, and I don't know of any merit source who frequents the gambling board enough to be able to find merit worthy posts. Sure there are a lot of garbage posts made there as with many other board, but I'm certain there are quality posts in the context of the discussions there.

I generally think the forum has a deficit in amount of merit sources for the general boards at the moment, making it more difficult for newer members to rank up, but the final decision to add more sources is up to theymos.

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January 14, 2024, 05:42:24 PM
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I have also gone through the gambling sections there are quality post I do finds out but I can't barely merits them because I am not a merits source neither do I have merits to spray like those who are with enough merits to send across.




On the other hand, if you look at how you distribute your merits, then instead of giving 3–4 merits to one person, you could easily appreciate a high-quality post in the gambling section by giving one merit each
Pretty spot on assessment and exactly what I was thinking when I went through the OPs merit history.

@OP while you are free to spend your merit as you see fit, you really IMO shouldn't make a topic about merit if you are wasting them. For example: I see you gave 8 merits to Cryptoprenuerboss for the launch of a sig campaign. Nothing wrong with that except the fact that he is already a legendary, and it's a sig campaign thread. Nothing important unless someone needs a job. So as lovesmyfamilis said, just give 1 merit to posts and you can merit more people vs running out.

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January 14, 2024, 05:49:18 PM
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You have said your mind OP and you are polite enough, and I must say that your thought might be aligning with the majority here, it is just that the way the forum is, there are too many segregations and most of those who are saddled with the responsibility to circulate the merits (merit sources) are shunning the gambling board.

They do not have an interest in going there because they have other sections that are their focus and campaigns encourage it indirectly. Of course, the majority of them are in campaigns and their campaigns allow them to shun the gambling board which aggravates the suffering of the quality posters on the gambling boards. You can be rest assured that if you are the best poster in this forum but limit your posting to the gambling board, you might not have a single merit in 6 months no matter how good you are unless you are lucky. It is that bad.

Well, some people have applied for the merit sources last year, and some claim they will focus on the gambling section, I hope it can be granted as soon as possible. But still, if the merit sources in such a large section where most activities are happening are not many, the impact will not still show. At least we need 5 active merit sources in that section to help it go around.

Also, I agree with you, the Naija board is not encouraging at all, it is just like a partiality when some boards are full of merit sources and merits are just flying up and down but some are so scarce of the merit. That is not fair to me. Nonetheless, thanks to the merit source like hugeblack, he helps a lot.

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January 14, 2024, 06:19:16 PM
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Pretty spot on assessment and exactly what I was thinking when I went through the OPs merit history.

@OP while you are free to spend your merit as you see fit, you really IMO shouldn't make a topic about merit if you are wasting them. For example: I see you gave 8 merits to Cryptoprenuerboss for the launch of a sig campaign. Nothing wrong with that except the fact that he is already a legendary, and it's a sig campaign thread. Nothing important unless someone needs a job. So as lovesmyfamilis said, just give 1 merit to posts and you can merit more people vs running out.
Thank you very much my good manager I will adjust so I won't run out of merit, actually I didn't see that as a problem but giving out willing but I understand what you both are saying.
You are both correct maybe if that I was spreading only 1 as my mentor does i could have had some reserved, I was only moved by the saying don't hoard merits there is no essence of keeping them back. Wait a bit, could this be an attributes to why some people don't merits my post?

I know my post are of quality enough to receive merits but seems they aren't giving except I reported them to merits source, must people report a post before they could give someone merits I think that is why the work load is increasing everyday because if they give merits to post that are quality enough there is no way they will have hundreds of profiles requesting for a review.

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January 14, 2024, 06:27:00 PM
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Pretty spot on assessment and exactly what I was thinking when I went through the OPs merit history.

@OP while you are free to spend your merit as you see fit, you really IMO shouldn't make a topic about merit if you are wasting them. For example: I see you gave 8 merits to Cryptoprenuerboss for the launch of a sig campaign. Nothing wrong with that except the fact that he is already a legendary, and it's a sig campaign thread. Nothing important unless someone needs a job. So as lovesmyfamilis said, just give 1 merit to posts and you can merit more people vs running out.
Thank you very much my good manager I will adjust so I won't run out of merit, actually I didn't see that as a problem but giving out willing but I understand what you both are saying.
You are both correct maybe if that I was spreading only 1 as my mentor does i could have had some reserved, I was only moved by the saying don't hoard merits there is no essence of keeping them back. Wait a bit, could this be an attributes to why some people don't merits my post?

I know my post are of quality enough to receive merits but seems they aren't giving except I reported them to merits source, must people report a post before they could give someone merits I think that is why the work load is increasing everyday because if they give merits to post that are quality enough there is no way they will have hundreds of profiles requesting for a review.
Every post that 1 makes will not get merit man. Not 1 single user on the forum gets every post merited and believe me, we have some damn great quality posters who deserve more then they get.

You also need to consider that what you think is a quality post, may not be considered the same by other users. What makes you so confident? You using AI or just confident in your posts?

Here's what I see. You are active, you are earning a dollar, you have earned over 200 merits in the last 120 days. I think you're doing just fine. There are many who would be happy with what you have/are achieving currently.

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January 14, 2024, 09:29:32 PM
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I try to send merits to posts there but it's very difficult to find quality posts. I find it hard to even read some of the messages. It's the most active section of the forum, but it's so scarce in terms of merit. Because of spammers, good messages are lost in the shuffle. I think it's important to have an active gambling section for the sake of forum and I would suppport any idea to increase the quality and the merit circulation there.
  • The speed at which the pages of the mega threads grow is very fast, such that quality posts are easily buried.
  • Apart from that, the number of spammers in that section exceeds the number of quality posters
  • Again, majority of the merit sources are not gamblers and do not discuss in that board 
  • I have read one merit source application which focused on gambling boards. I am sure the application is not granted yet.
  • The Sceptical Chemist handed out some merits to gambling posts, but at a time he stopped because he wasn't sure if he was meriting quality posts because he doesn't know about gambling
  • No one penalises anyone who sends merits to gambling discussion boards 

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January 14, 2024, 09:39:27 PM
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Which means some people can apply for merit source for gambling related posts. I will like to see some people make such an application.
Some people have been claiming that gambling boards are full of spammers. Maybe that’s why lots of posts on gambling boards are not really merited, only a few posts receive merit on gambling boards. I think it will be better if someone tries submitting merit source application for gambling board, maybe the person’s application is going to be considered, but I know so many people will be against it due to the high level of low quality posts that people do make on gambling boards, and I am sure the merit sources that we have currently are not interested in meriting posts on gambling boards, but to be honest, there are some posts on gambling boards that are worth merit but are not receiving merit.

Many posts that are of good quality there and are worth meriting are mixed up and are mostly in the midst of many other posts that are not worth meriting. It will take a dedicated merit source to be able to fish out quality posts there because of the numbers of posts that comes from there on a daily, it isn’t going to be an easy job for that merit source that wants to focus on there only. Merit source is a voluntary work in the forum, if any user feels they can do it, they can only be encouraged but the work will be vigorous for them to handle especially when we have one for the board.

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January 14, 2024, 09:51:50 PM
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Many posts that are of good quality there and are worth meriting are mixed up and are mostly in the midst of many other posts that are not worth meriting. It will take a dedicated merit source to be able to fish out quality posts there because of the numbers of posts that comes from there on a daily, it isn’t going to be an easy job for that merit source that wants to focus on there only. Merit source is a voluntary work in the forum, if any user feels they can do it, they can only be encouraged but the work will be vigorous for them to handle especially when we have one for the board.
It’s true that threads in the gambling section quickly escalate to mega threads but in my opinion that’s not an excuse for the lack of merits in that board. There’s no way you can tell me that there is no quality post in the first five pages of those threads that deserve merit. 

I don’t think post quality is the major issue here, the probem is that gambling section has a reputation as a place where spammers dwell. If it is not so, then why does wall observer thread which I think has a lot of low quality posts have a high merit distribution rate than the gambling board.

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AFAIK, there are no active merit source in the gambling section, and I don't know of any merit source who frequents the gambling board enough to be able to find merit worthy posts.
Several merit sources are active there and they tend to be active on the same threads more frequently over time. If you pay close attention - the few threads that get merit source attention tend not to be flooded with spammers, that's because most of the users there post something useful even though there are also repetitive discussions.

If you're curious about who I'm referring to - then check out LFC_Bitcoin's merit history and see how he distributes merit on the gambling board. Of course only on certain threads - but he contributes to the distribution of merit on the gambling board.

I generally think the forum has a deficit in amount of merit sources for the general boards at the moment, making it more difficult for newer members to rank up, but the final decision to add more sources is up to theymos.
Not just on gambling board - but on some local board and discussion altcoin also need more attention from merit source. Some local board require the addition of new merit source - as do altcoin discussion board.

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January 15, 2024, 03:37:22 AM
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The gambling board wasn't restricted from merits.
It's just that, the board is becoming a second version of the "Bounties" section already, thus we are seeing repetitive posts from different users already, and if I'm the merit source, why would I give to a post that's been talked about multiple times already where I can just find another post that's more worthy of giving my merits to.

I'll be honest, I posted there as well when I was still with a signature campaign that required us to post there, but I will proudly say that whenever I post there, I always add content to the topic they're talking about. I mean it's either thru adding more information, or adding some details, etc. I will not say "all" but most of the people there are just repeating what the others are saying. It's like they're just rephrasing it. Maybe I've done the same in the past, but I didn't get merit that much in that board.

I want the posts from the gambling board to get some merits as well, but it will be hard to find one, and it will just come to a point where the merit source will find another post outside the board that's more worthy. I would be happy though if there will be a merit source who will focus on that board. Smiley

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