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January 14, 2024, 06:06:13 AM
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I made a post on Turkish local board asking for help but here a user Kalemder gave me redtrust I don't understand why it was given because it's not my fault or I didn't scam anyone I just asked for help that I have this token hold  .  I have given the token that I hold along with the contact address. If there is a mistake here, the coinmarketcap shows that the token of the same contact address is listed here. Is it my fault?

Türkiye'den birileri lütfen bana yardım etsin. Elimde bir token var ve gördüğüm kadarıyla Türkiye'deki bir borsada listeleniyor. Eğer Türkiye'den biri varsa veya bu borsayı kullanıyorsa tokenimi satmam benim için çok faydalı olacaktır.





Token Adı : Pepe Coin (PEPE)
 Toplam Tutar : 652603158.93105
 Sözleşme Adresi : 0xb46584e0efdE3092e04010A13f2eAe62aDb3b9F0
 Coinmarketcap Bağlantısı: https://coinmarketcap.com/curregency/pepe-coin-bsc2/
 Değişim Adı (Türkiye Kişileri) : https://kripto.btcturk.com/en/pro/exchange/PEPE_TRY



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It is a matter that he sees a big user and will give redtrust to whoever he wants without any proof or any basis of information Kind of crazy.


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January 14, 2024, 08:02:58 AM
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Not sure how should I react.

It's true the real PEPE token is using ETH network, so if there's a PEPE token is using other network, it's scam/copycat.

Using a same logic, every users who promote altcoins should receive negative feedback because altcoins is scam.

I think @OP is an innocent, hopefully he want to revise his feedback.

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January 14, 2024, 10:04:44 AM
Last edit: January 14, 2024, 04:32:40 PM by dragonvslinux
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User's coin is up 6,000% this week and he/she wants to sell. Not sure what the issue is here. Apart from maybe a warning on the thread not to FOMO into coins that are already up 60x in a week.

Edit: Coin is not up 60x, CMC has listed wrong market pairs

There's otherwise literally dozens of Pepe coins on a variety of networks. The most popular (#108) doesn't own the copyrights to the image/logo, nor do any of the others, so the "original" clearly doesn't get to claim exclusive rights over the brand name or imagery making copycats as fair game as the existence of the original. Pretty sure the original isn't even the first coin named Pepe to be launched anyway, so it's all irrelevant.

The user provided the verifiable contract, even if the CMC link doesn't work, so it doesn't look like they were trying to scam another user into buying what they thought was the "main" Pepe coin.

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January 14, 2024, 10:13:04 AM
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The user provided the verifiable contract, even if the CMC link doesn't work, so it doesn't look like they were trying to scam another user into buying what they thought was the "main" Pepe coin.

Please See This Link : https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/pepe-coin-bsc2/ coinmarketcap showing this this is not my fault just i ask help not other reason
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January 14, 2024, 10:54:03 AM
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User's coin is up 6,000% this week and he/she wants to sell. Not sure what the issue is here.

The issue is the chart image he posted is of $PEPE on ETH, and the link he posted for it goes to nowhere. I dunno if he was trying to trick people into thinking he held the ETH version or not -- perhaps not, because the invalid link he posted does end with "pepe-coin-bsc2/". This version is likely not traded on the exchange he linked, so he's giving a false impression, even if by accident.

Not something I would tag somebody over, but unless you speak Turkish and are familiar with the local scene on the forum, its impossible to understand the nuances of the situation.

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I didn't quite understand everything in your thread in Turkish, but I see that you have already received explanations of what you are doing wrong. Now it is questionable why you pretend to be naive, then insist that you are right and do not want to accept what other members told you in that thread.
So, if it's a mistake with CMC, that doesn't mean you should abuse it with other people. It's okay if you didn't know and asked, but if someone explained the essence of the whole thing to you, then there's no need to hide behind ignorance and wonder why someone considers you an attempted fraud.

I would ask gospodin or/and Kalemder to present the whole case here in English to make it clearer. I am also willing to leave a negative tag if this is a real scenario.

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January 14, 2024, 12:34:13 PM
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They think the OP is trying to scam them with that fake shitcoin and that's why they tagged OP.

There's otherwise literally dozens of Pepe coins on a variety of networks. The most popular (#108) doesn't own the copyrights to the image/logo, nor do any of the others, so the "original" clearly doesn't get to claim exclusive rights over the brand name or imagery making copycats as fair game as the existence of the original.

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User's coin is up 6,000% this week and he/she wants to sell. Not sure what the issue is here.

The issue is the chart image he posted is of $PEPE on ETH, and the link he posted for it goes to nowhere.

Simply incorrect, please check before making these types of accusations in the future. The pair is clearly PEPE/TRY (not ETH), whatever the f TRY is.
More importantly, the PEPE/TRY pair on BtcTurk is in fact the Pepe Coin ($PEPE) the user is trying to sell, see: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/pepe-coin-bsc2/#Markets
Pepe ($PEPE) is otherwise not available on that exchange, as per: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/pepe/#Markets


This version is likely not traded on the exchange he linked, so he's giving a false impression, even if by accident.

"Likely not traded". Please just check next time. It clearly is, as I already referenced. No offence intended here, but we don't need a dose of misinformation posted into this thread.

I dunno if he was trying to trick people into thinking he held the ETH version or not -- perhaps not, because the invalid link he posted does end with "pepe-coin-bsc2/".
So nothing deceptive then. As for the link, it has a typo or two in it. The link should include /currencies/ not /curregency/, somewhat obviously.
The actually coin link is correct however as you pointed out: /pepe-coin-bsc2/
So overall, unless we are tagging users for typos, there is nothing deceptive here I can see... just a broken link, but could (and should) be easily clarified with the contract address that was provided.


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Why does Redtrust give without any data proof ?
If I pay attention to the red trust you got from @Kalemder, based on clarification based on @Kalemder's views, I don't know for sure how your exchange works in Turkey and about PEPE coins.

However @Kalemder, said.
Adam dolandırıcıyım diye bağırıyor. Verdiği Contracts adresi gerçek pepe'den farklı. Bizim btctürk muhtemelen yanlışlıkla o sahte coinin CMC sayfasında listelenmiş. Veya özellikle kasıtlı. Btctürk'te erc20 olan gerçek pepe kabul ediliyor. Bu dolandırıcının gösterdiği bsc'de basılmış sahte bir token.

Olacak olan senaryo şu arkadaşlar: Adam size sahte pepe'yi gönderecek. Sizden gerçek bir coin isteyecek. Tx gönderecek size bak göndermişim diyecek hadi paramı gönder bana diyecek.

Ne güzel dünya be... Smiley

Come on brother, go to another door. We have our own scammers. We are already defrauded by them. Cheesy

There mentions a fake Contract Address and several other things that are suspicious to the community here.

If you feel right, clarify your topic, provide a logical and reasonable understanding to the member who is suspicious of you, maybe if he can accept and make sense of what you mentioned about PEPE, I think you are safe here.

Clarify @Kalemder's suspicions about you, maybe that's the best way for you to do it.

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I do not like Kalemder. And his behavior at the past art competition. He supported his friends only at his f*cking 3d gallery

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He shared an SS on Btcturk exchange. The price shown in SS is price of the real (Erc20) Pepe token. Scam starts here. Btcturk already lists the real Pepe token. I'm sure you noticed this from the obvious difference in price. I noticed the scam in advance and warned people. That is all.

It is a frequently used fraud method in Turkey. Because most people do not have technical knowledge.

Still, I'm not a cruel person. If he really apologizes for this situation, I am ready to delete feedback. I also ask him to clearly state under topic that "this is not the real Pepe".

In fact, despite this fact that has been obvious from the very beginning, it is a big mistake that has still not corrected the topic. Please do not insist on making a mistake. Because at any moment someone can send you real coins in exchange for fake Pepe. Or is this what you wanted?

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January 14, 2024, 02:34:22 PM
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The issue is the chart image he posted is of $PEPE on ETH, and the link he posted for it goes to nowhere.

Simply incorrect, please check before making these types of accusations in the future. The pair is clearly PEPE/TRY (not ETH), whatever the f TRY is.

LOL bro. It's like you've never actually traded on any type of exchange before.

First of all, TRY is the Turkish lira.

Second, it is the ETH version of PEPE being shown on the chart.

Compare the price here:

https://kripto.btcturk.com/en/pro/exchange/PEPE_TRY

to the price shown here, after changing the currency setting to TRY:

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/pepe/

"Likely not traded". Please just check next time. It clearly is, as I already referenced. No offence intended here, but we don't need a dose of misinformation posted into this thread.

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Its not the fact that you've been wrong about so many things for years that bothers me about you, its the fact that you're so smug in your wrongness. You'll forever be a noob to me.

Take some time to reflect. Meditate somewhere peaceful, attempt to discover your inner self, and then come back with a reply.

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January 14, 2024, 04:24:53 PM
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 #13

The issue is the chart image he posted is of $PEPE on ETH, and the link he posted for it goes to nowhere.

Simply incorrect, please check before making these types of accusations in the future. The pair is clearly PEPE/TRY (not ETH), whatever the f TRY is.

LOL bro. It's like you've never actually traded on any type of exchange before.

First of all, TRY is the Turkish lira.

I've just never traded by TRY before, like most people I assume, but that's besides the point here.

Second, it is the ETH version of PEPE being shown on the chart.

Compare the price here:

https://kripto.btcturk.com/en/pro/exchange/PEPE_TRY

to the price shown here, after changing the currency setting to TRY:

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/pepe/

OK fair I made a mistake, I just checked and you're right, because CMC has got it wrong here. They've listed the wrong PEPE/TRY pair(s) under Pepe Coin, which is actually the reason why price registers has being up by around 50,000%, whereas actually it's only about up around 130% based on BUSD pair. Will update my post to reflect this new information provided. To be honest I was surprised when I thought you made such a massive mistake, hence my reaction, but instead I realise you just provided a lack of relevant information which makes more sense, that fortunately Kalemder explains above.

Here's a question for you though; why did you not bother mentioning that CMC had included the incorrect pairs in their market listings, given this was a reference in the OP's topic? Were you unaware of this obvious error, or did you simply think it was insigificant? As the user clearly could have made an honest mistake here, thinking their coin is up 60x, instead of realising that CMC had made a couple of enormous errors. Either way, now the user should be aware, so should modify their topic accordingly. Until then, the feedback seems appropriate, given it's effectively false advertising, even if done so inadvertently.

"Likely not traded". Please just check next time. It clearly is, as I already referenced. No offence intended here, but we don't need a dose of misinformation posted into this thread.

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Its not the fact that you've been wrong about so many things for years that bothers me about you, its the fact that you're so smug in your wrongness. You'll forever be a noob to me.

Take some time to reflect. Meditate somewhere peaceful, attempt to discover your inner self, and then come back with a reply.

That's cute. Don't forget to include that in your diary  Kiss

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January 14, 2024, 08:21:23 PM
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@Kalemder is naturally right in his reaction on this problem. In the past, many Turkish users were scammed in ways similar to this method. The price difference and different contract addresses are already a problem in itself. If a Turkish user tried to help and absently sent these tokens to the Erc network, this time that friend would be guilty. And OP would ask for full token money, saying that the mistake was on this friend.

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January 15, 2024, 02:41:50 AM
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OK fair I made a mistake, I just checked and you're right

You should have just stopped here.

Here's a question for you though; why did you not bother mentioning that CMC had included the incorrect pairs in their market listings, given this was a reference in the OP's topic? Were you unaware of this obvious error, or did you simply think it was insigificant?

It's irrelevant to the claim you were making, which was false. I tried explaining to you why it was false, and you ignored the explanation in order to accuse me of spreading "misinformation."  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Take some time to reflect. Meditate somewhere peaceful, attempt to discover your inner self, and then come back with a reply.

That's cute. Don't forget to include that in your diary  Kiss

Clearly you didn't take my advice. That's a shame, but oh well. Putting you on ignore so I don't accidentally waste time attempting to reason with you anymore.

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January 15, 2024, 05:17:14 AM
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What's wrong with me here I just posted asking for help even I gave the name and contact address of the token I mentioned and the exchange list is wrong coinmarketcap why are they showing wrong data if showing wrong data what should I do here  So I just wanted help, I had no other wish..


I also provide my holding Token Name and contact address my holding Token BSC and not ERC
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February 13, 2024, 08:51:05 AM
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Fucking Forum fucking forum Senior member ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no reason why redtrust me

Such an attitude is unlikely to help you get rid of your red trust...

But, more importantly, if you made an honest mistake in your post the Turkish board, why didn't you at least make an effort to correct it and explain the situation?



Seriously, what's the deal with folks thinking admitting their mistakes and apologies are below them? Is it pride? Stubbornness?

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Fucking Forum fucking forum Senior member ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no reason why redtrust me

This is not going to help your case. The user already offered a solution to your issue but you didn't pay attention to his texts. Here is what he offered,

Still, I'm not a cruel person. If he apologizes for this situation, I am ready to delete feedback. I also ask him to clearly state under topic that "this is not the real Pepe".

To get rid of this negative feedback, delete the post you made or edit it and add the phrase "this is not the real Pepe".. I am not telling you anything and those are not my personal opinions. I am just pointing out what he has offered you.
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February 13, 2024, 01:25:24 PM
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Fucking Forum fucking forum Senior member ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no reason why redtrust me
Another classic example of a spoiled kid. No manners at all whatsoever. How is anyone here going to be on your side if this is the side you are showing us?
You are the architect of your own downfall. Stop blaming other people for your mistakes. You must take responsibility of them 100%

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February 14, 2024, 12:11:46 PM
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Not sure how should I react.

It's true the real PEPE token is using ETH network, so if there's a PEPE token is using other network, it's scam/copycat.

Using a same logic, every users who promote altcoins should receive negative feedback because altcoins is scam.

I think @OP is an innocent, hopefully he want to revise his feedback.

With that logic altcoins is as much scam as online casinos. Tongue He He He

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