Aviator is no longer provablyfair. Spribe turned to scam

[j6o74]

Hello,


Aviator is arguably the biggest crash game globally. Its owned by SPRIBE which supplies it to most casino sites.

 Since it started in 2019 it has been provablyfair proven with same method as BustaBit i.e (function gameResult(hash) {
  const nBits = 52
  hash = hash.slice(0, nBits/4)
  const r = parseInt(hash, 16)
  let X = r / Math.pow(2, nBits)
  X = 99 / (1 - X)
  const result = Math.floor(X)
  return Math.max(1, result / 100)
});


Starting on 01st, January this year, they stopped using it and didnt update us on any new methods and on their provablyfair page https://spribe.co/provably-fair they just describe it but not provide any actual mathematical methods or script for their games

When i tried to inquire from them on their social media platforms they just blocked and muted me.

This is very strange and suspicious.

[shasan]

You have no proof which stand on your side and oppose the site that has been accused. If you have any proof then please share the details. You have nothing said about the scam amount and/or scam payment method and how they scammed you.

[PX-Z]

You have no proof which stand on your side and oppose the site that has been accused. If you have any proof then please share the details. You have nothing said about the scam amount and/or scam payment method and how they scammed you.

There's no scam accusation here, I bet the OP is just warning us in terms of the change of the algo of their game. The change of probably fair into none is too suspicious without them announcing it if its "true". Although i won't agree just yet when there's no proof shown like the chat logs, the result when using the probably fair verifier using the seed (server/client), hash, etc. from Spribe itself.

[j6o74]

You have no proof which stand on your side and oppose the site that has been accused. If you have any proof then please share the details. You have nothing said about the scam amount and/or scam payment method and how they scammed you.

There's no scam accusation here, I bet the OP is just warning us in terms of the change of the algo of their game. The change of probably fair into none is too suspicious without them announcing it if its "true". Although i won't agree just yet when there's no proof shown like the chat logs, the result when using the probably fair verifier using the seed (server/client), hash, etc. from Spribe itself.

Anyone can just check any of their games and see theyre not provablyfair within 2 minutes. There are available on most casinos world wide eg WolfBet, MetaSpins , Sportsbet.io etc.
Just check them and confirm for yourself. They have demo balance you dont even need to deposit.
You can also visit their provablyfair https://spribe.co/provably-fair

For aviator check the results from last year or any previous year thsn run the combined sha512 throught this javascript function below it will output the exact result hence proving provablyfair.


function gameResult(hash) {
  const nBits = 52
  hash = hash.slice(0, nBits/4)
  const r = parseInt(hash, 16)
  let X = r / Math.pow(2, nBits)
  X = 99 / (1 - X)
  const result = Math.floor(X)
  return Math.max(1, result / 100)
}

But they removed it abruptly on 01st January this year without any information neither to players or casinos who host their games

[j6o74]

You have no proof which stand on your side and oppose the site that has been accused. If you have any proof then please share the details. You have nothing said about the scam amount and/or scam payment method and how they scammed you.

Do you consider it a scam if a casino is providing provablyfair games claiming theyre provablyfair  but theyre actually not provablyfair ?

[shasan]

There's no scam accusation here, I bet the OP is just warning us in terms of the change of the algo of their game. The change of probably fair into none is too suspicious without them announcing it if its "true". Although i won't agree just yet when there's no proof shown like the chat logs, the result when using the probably fair verifier using the seed (server/client), hash, etc. from Spribe itself.

Let us say the OP has not created any scam accusations and trying to make us aware of the site to avoid our loss. If so the post should be created on the reputation section instead of the scam accusation board.

[j6o74]

There's no scam accusation here, I bet the OP is just warning us in terms of the change of the algo of their game. The change of probably fair into none is too suspicious without them announcing it if its "true". Although i won't agree just yet when there's no proof shown like the chat logs, the result when using the probably fair verifier using the seed (server/client), hash, etc. from Spribe itself.

Let us say the OP has not created any scam accusations and trying to make us aware of the site to avoid our loss. If so the post should be created on the reputation section instead of the scam accusation board.

Well i think it belongs there too as well as here too because if you think about it every bet made on their games which aren't provablyfair but claim theyre provablyfair qualifies as a scam

[ScamViruS]

Since you didn't add strong evidence, take this as a warning and consider doing deeper research to see if what you posted is likely to happen. If you have any other proofs you can add here, why they blocked you and what kind of conversation they had with you, because if they blocked you from their social media for no reason, then their motives must be doubted.

[j6o74]

Since you didn't add strong evidence, take this as a warning and consider doing deeper research to see if what you posted is likely to happen. If you have any other proofs you can add here, why they blocked you and what kind of conversation they had with you, because if they blocked you from their social media for no reason, then their motives must be doubted.

There is no conversation because they just ignore and delete them. And the fact that they abruptly removed the provablyfair methods they have been using since 2019 and never informed us players or casinos hosting their games about new methods if any(i doubt).
Actually i think there's also a possibility of them collaborating with casino houses to tamper with games in their favor

[Saint-loup]

Since you didn't add strong evidence, take this as a warning and consider doing deeper research to see if what you posted is likely to happen. If you have any other proofs you can add here, why they blocked you and what kind of conversation they had with you, because if they blocked you from their social media for no reason, then their motives must be doubted.

I don't understand why you are talking about social medias and why you claim he has been blocked by them. He had talked about this case elsewhere or a post from him here has been deleted? If it's because of another conversation you should quote his post or a link towards it.
Anyway, it would be better if OP could post a link towards a paying version of the game and some screenshots. But I didn't find how to check the provably fairness of the rounds in the demo version(free) of the game in his link, indeed.

[j6o74]

Since you didn't add strong evidence, take this as a warning and consider doing deeper research to see if what you posted is likely to happen. If you have any other proofs you can add here, why they blocked you and what kind of conversation they had with you, because if they blocked you from their social media for no reason, then their motives must be doubted.

I don't understand why you are talking about social medias and why you claim he has been blocked by them. He had talked about this case elsewhere or post from him here has been deleted? If it's because of another conversation you should quote his post or a link towards it.
Anyway, it would be better if OP could post a link towards a paying version of the game and some screenshots. But I didn't find how to check the provably fairness of the rounds in the demo version(free) of the game in his link, Indeed.

I actually tried reaching out to them on their social media platforms but they ignored and deleted my comments on LinkedIn and blocked me on Facebook.
There's no way how to check provablyfairness on paying versions too check them out on https://wolf.bet/ or https://sportsbet.io/casino or any other popular casino.
Their official  provably fair page https://spribe.co/provably-fair doesn't provide any mathematical methods or script to verify their games either.

[ScamViruS]

Since you didn't add strong evidence, take this as a warning and consider doing deeper research to see if what you posted is likely to happen. If you have any other proofs you can add here, why they blocked you and what kind of conversation they had with you, because if they blocked you from their social media for no reason, then their motives must be doubted.

There is no conversation because they just ignore and delete them. And the fact that they abruptly removed the provablyfair methods they have been using since 2019 and never informed us players or casinos hosting their games about new methods if any(i doubt).
Actually i think there's also a possibility of them collaborating with casino houses to tamper with games in their favor

As I said if you have any solid evidence through which you can expose their fraud then you can share that information. And they probably didn't have any information to reply to you so they deleted your comment and blocked you. Because people who do dishonest activities like this delete people's comments instead of replying, and they did the same thing to you.

Since you didn't add strong evidence, take this as a warning and consider doing deeper research to see if what you posted is likely to happen. If you have any other proofs you can add here, why they blocked you and what kind of conversation they had with you, because if they blocked you from their social media for no reason, then their motives must be doubted.

I don't understand why you are talking about social medias and why you claim he has been blocked by them. He had talked about this case elsewhere or post from him here has been deleted? If it's because of another conversation you should quote his post or a link towards it.

OP himself said that Aviator blocked him on social media for asking some questions. And that's why I asked the OP what kind of conversation he actually had with them. So I asked him that you may have misunderstood here.

[Saint-loup]

I actually tried reaching out to them on their social media platforms but they ignored and deleted my comments on LinkedIn and blocked me on Facebook.
There's no way how to check provablyfairness on paying versions too check them out on https://wolf.bet/ or https://sportsbet.io/casino or any other popular casino.
Their official  provably fair page https://spribe.co/provably-fair doesn't provide any mathematical methods or script to verify their games either.

Yes, now I see where you have written it, well it's not the main point of your claim but if it's true you're right it's not professional and a bit suspicious. There is a similar thread about Fortunejack on other so-called provably fair games and at least they seem to have contacted the third-party provider offering the game to report the claim.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5478417
If it's exactly the same game as the free one(demo), you're right, the game is not provably fair, since we can't independently check the outcomes. They give the seed used by the house and the seeds used by the first 3 players of the given round, they show the SHA512 hash of those seeds(concatenated I guess), they show the part of this hash they've taken to get the outcome and its value in decimal format but then they don't say how the result has been computed from this value.

[j6o74]

I actually tried reaching out to them on their social media platforms but they ignored and deleted my comments on LinkedIn and blocked me on Facebook.
There's no way how to check provablyfairness on paying versions too check them out on https://wolf.bet/ or https://sportsbet.io/casino or any other popular casino.
Their official  provably fair page https://spribe.co/provably-fair doesn't provide any mathematical methods or script to verify their games either.

Yes, now I see where you have written it, well it's not the main point of your claim but if it's true you're right it's not professional and a bit suspicious. There is a similar thread about Fortunejack on other so-called provably fair games and at least they seem to have contacted the third-party provider offering the game to report the claim.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5478417
If it's exactly the same game as the free one(demo), you're right, the game is not provably fair, since we can't independently check the outcomes. They give the seed used by the house
 and the seeds used by the first 3 players of the given round, they show the SHA512 hash of those seeds(concatenated I guess), they show the part of this hash they've taken to get the outcome and its value in decimal format but then they don't say how the result has been computed from this value.

Yes exactly. This is same case as Fortunejack's https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5478417 though it seems they don't have SPRIBE's games on their site.

If it's exactly the same game as the free one(demo), you're right, the game is not provably fair, since we can't independently check the outcomes. They give the seed used by the house
 and the seeds used by the first 3 players of the given round, they show the SHA512 hash of those seeds(concatenated I guess), they show the part of this hash they've taken to get the outcome and its value in decimal format but then they don't say how the result has been computed from this value.

And previously(31st,Dec,2023) they have been using same mathematical method as most crash games (i think originally from BustaBit)

Code:

function gameResult(hash) {
  const nBits = 52
  hash = hash.slice(0, nBits/4)
  const r = parseInt(hash, 16)
  let X = r / Math.pow(2, nBits)
  X = 99 / (1 - X)
  const result = Math.floor(X)
  return Math.max(1, result / 100)
}

If you pass the final combined sha512 hash of any round result of aviator game played before 01st January 2024 to above javascript function it will output the exact round result hence proving provablyfairness but this was stopped on 01st January. Its why i suspect tampering and producing unfair results

[Saint-loup]

That's surprising indeed. Have you tried to compare the results given by this algorithm and the results displayed by the game? They are very different? Or it's just 10.0 instead of 10.5 for example?
You should maybe report the case on the thread of the Crypto Gambling Foundation
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2178857
Some managers or representatives of some casinos using this provider will maybe contact them to ask them to publish the new algorithm they are using to generate the results.

[j6o74]

That's surprising indeed. Have you tried to compare the results given by this algorithm and the results displayed by the game? They are very different? Or it's just 10.0 instead of 10.5 for example?
You should maybe report the case on the thread of the Crypto Gambling Foundation
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2178857
Some managers or representatives of some casinos using this provider will maybe contact them to ask them to publish the new algorithm they are using to generate the results.

Yes they're totally different.
Thanks for the link I will post in there

[snuffman8]

i really dont think a provider is gonna want to not be reliable, but as you are showing some evidences im gonna test it too!

[j6o74]

i really dont think a provider is gonna want to not be reliable, but as you are showing some evidences im gonna test it too!

Yeah especially with their flagship aviator game with over 10,000,000 users monthly