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January 18, 2024, 07:36:12 PM
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In my country, elections are held with an electronic ballot box. Many people question the effectiveness and real security of this method, which although it seems promising, brings some insecurities, as no electronic system is proof of fraud or failure.

Could blockchain technology solve this problem definitively?

Would it be a good thing to apply this technology in elections and put people's future in the hands of blockchain?

I personally believe more in the security of the blockchain than a ballot box made using technology that is subject to alteration and fraud, controlled by the government itself.

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January 18, 2024, 07:43:23 PM
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Elections are a centralised process that is controlled by the government. So for an election, you should have all the data on the blockchain voting system. We know all the data would be public if it weren't encrypted, which isn't a good idea at all. I am not a developer and don't have much idea about coding. But for the voting system, there should be a transparent process. I don't believe blockchain would help with such things as a centralised voting process. Blockchain seems to be more interesting in the financial and technological sectors.

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January 18, 2024, 07:49:46 PM
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The use of blockchain in elections implies at least some integrity in the voting results. Why do officials need integrity in voting? Show me one country where there is honest voting. There is no such country. Officials in any country are not interested in fair elections, so blockchain is unlikely to be used in such events. At least not in the near future.

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January 18, 2024, 07:56:51 PM
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Elections are a centralised process that is controlled by the government. So for an election, you should have all the data on the blockchain voting system. We know all the data would be public if it weren't encrypted, which isn't a good idea at all. I am not a developer and don't have much idea about coding. But for the voting system, there should be a transparent process. I don't believe blockchain would help with such things as a centralised voting process. Blockchain seems to be more interesting in the financial and technological sectors.
I'm not also grounded in coding but I have a strong feeling that blockchain technology could be of help but it will involve some kind of complex processes. The uniqueness of blockchain is in the integrity or data, making the election process decentralized where each citizen is assigned a unique identifier and access to cast a vote that is distributed and choice made available for public views even when the identifier is kept anonymous, this could actually lead to some sort of transparent election process. The challenge is if countries will have the political will to pursue this? Will the elites allow power to truly shift to the hands of the citizens?
Your guess is as good as mine.

Like I said, I'm still a novice as far as coding is concerned but I feel there is a possibility in deploying blockchain technology in electioneering process.

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January 18, 2024, 08:20:57 PM
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Like I said, I'm still a novice as far as coding is concerned but I feel there is a possibility in deploying blockchain technology in electioneering process.

On one hand, adding the voting system to the blockchain seems like a good idea because it's often seen as an open and decentralized system recording transactions publicly. On the other hand, there's concern that it could lead to congestion, similar to past issues with the ordinals. Elections, despite advancements like electronic voting, still face manipulation. Each vote added to a block requires validation by miners, which could be challenging for individual political candidates who might not want to pay fees just to cast their votes. Governments may be hesitant to adopt this due to blockchain's secure nature, and if they may want to rig the elections, they might not be willing to wait for potential changes that could be controlled by developers, risking delays in their election processes.

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January 18, 2024, 09:55:48 PM
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Adds credibility to the lie Smiley , like calling the dead back to life to vote.

I don't think it's necessary, because no matter how sophisticated the technology is, it's still used by humans, and designing it for elections, I'm not sure how honest it is, but don't forget things that can be deceitful on the outside in it. Don't just talk about the good things about it but be honest with the things that exist. Transparency does not come from technological solutions, but instead enhances the ethics of leaders and citizens.

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January 18, 2024, 10:34:58 PM
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Government will not allow the use Blockchain in their countries electronic transmission of elections results because of their minds of manipulating the election results. And this has come clear in my country last year election. The Electoral Body promised to transmit the results online but when the time comes, it was manually transmitted and the opposition parties against it because there would re-write the results manually so it caused a big issue. And after the election, there was a conference held by the opposition parties and one of the presenters said, election results can be transmitted through Blockchain. And it would be more saver than any means. But I know politicians will not allow it because they can't manipulate it election again. But if really Blockchain is used in election, it will change the narrative of elections manipulation.

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January 18, 2024, 11:52:40 PM
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Blockchain is not some magical think that makes everything related to data more secure and decentralized. It's an append-only database with blocks of transactions. And you don't need that for voting. Voting needs a good digital identity system, so that votes could not be faked. How you store and count votes is a secondary problem that is much easier to solve.
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In my country, elections are held with an electronic ballot box. Many people question the effectiveness and real security of this method, which although it seems promising, brings some insecurities, as no electronic system is proof of fraud or failure.

Could blockchain technology solve this problem definitively?

Would it be a good thing to apply this technology in elections and put people's future in the hands of blockchain?

I personally believe more in the security of the blockchain than a ballot box made using technology that is subject to alteration and fraud, controlled by the government itself.

The solution blockchain offers are limitless but blockchain will not be adopted for certain purposes in corrupt societies or parastatals because it will render their corrupt practices useless and limit the possibility of further perpetrations of corruption.

Elections are been marred with heavy rigging and disenfranchisement and this is not a possibility using the blockchain technology. So, blockchain remains a solution to global practices.

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January 19, 2024, 12:01:52 AM
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Could blockchain technology solve this problem definitively?

Would it be a good thing to apply this technology in elections and put people's future in the hands of blockchain?
Speaking of election. For me, if we use Blockchain, yes, there is an improvement or somehow solving the problem but not totally, because these corrupt governments will still find a way to cheat and manipulate, especially vote buying which here in our country, vote buying is really popular every election, and flying voters where you can vote multiple times by using other's identity.

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Not necessarily as not all blockchains are decentralized and public. The government, particularly the department that handles the elections, could indeed make use of the blockchain technology in an election, but does it automatically mean that the process would now become honest and fair? I don't think so. It may happen that such a blockchain only gives permission to certain government personalities or officials to change or remove certain data therein.

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With the transparency and public of blockchain, this will really be a big change for elections if applied and that is what people want. But the problem is that politicians don't want this and politics is the darkest thing in this world, they never want things to be transparent or public so they will never let that happen.

Just like bitcoin is a currency that is superior to fiat money in many aspects, but governments and politicians always seek to ban it because they know that it will benefit the people but will threaten the their power. They never let bitcoin become the world's currency.

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They could use bitcoin to secure a provable election but right now the fees would be too high, they could use the underlying technology through Syscoin which is secured by bitcoin's hashrate and has low fees.

Elections have bigger problems that need to be solved first. But provably fair elections would be great.

Syscoin has the best of Bitcoin and Ethereum in one place, it's merge mined with Bitcoin so it is plugged into Bitcoin's ecosystem and takes full advantage of it's POW while rewarding Bitcoin miners with Syscoin
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blockchain can solve problems related to elections where every vote will be directly recorded in the blockchain ledger and then it cannot be manipulated by any party. but that is in theory, in practice people will still doubt this technology because there are several parties who have access to a back door that can manipulate the vote counting results.

moreover, politicians hate systems like this because in elections there are many parties involved and when blockchain technology eliminates this it will harm several parties where politicians and business people play in it. and therefore blockchain technology is not used today, but that does not rule out the possibility that in the future governments will adopt blockchain technology.

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Elections are a centralised process that is controlled by the government. So for an election, you should have all the data on the blockchain voting system. We know all the data would be public if it weren't encrypted, which isn't a good idea at all. I am not a developer and don't have much idea about coding. But for the voting system, there should be a transparent process. I don't believe blockchain would help with such things as a centralised voting process. Blockchain seems to be more interesting in the financial and technological sectors.

What you said is true, blockchain as decentralized stuff, if been allowed to be used for such activity like election I think the purpose for it existence has been conquered, the political gurus won't even allow such to happen because of their dubious and negative motives, this process is only needed for monetary aspects, the political elites doesn't support a transparent system where everything that happens will be monitored and recorded exactly as it is suppose to be and again a particular organisation might be given access to this system by the party in power and this in turn will make the process and the system to look very fake and untrusted, so I support what you said that it is better for it to only be used for financial purposes.

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Blockchain can improve the quality of the democratic process and elections, but if there is no oversight from society, the election results can be manipulated or affect voter morale with negative propaganda and spreading lies. Therefore, the integrity of the elections is not limited to the nomination boxes, although it is essential in choosing voters.

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This isn't the first time this sort of discussion is coming up, the BTC blockchain is transparent, immutable and public, so people suggest it could help in the credibility of elections as people would be able to follow the voting process as it happens, while i don't know how it would be implemented in elections, i am sure it is not something that too many governments want to use.

Credible elections can be achieved without a system like this, if only we had credible people in charge of the electoral system as well as honest politicians. In other words, the bigger problem is in the 'individual' and not the system.

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Could blockchain technology solve this problem definitively?

Would it be a good thing to apply this technology in elections and put people's future in the hands of blockchain?
Speaking of election. For me, if we use Blockchain, yes, there is an improvement or somehow solving the problem but not totally, because these corrupt governments will still find a way to cheat and manipulate, especially vote buying which here in our country, vote buying is really popular every election, and flying voters where you can vote multiple times by using other's identity.

Every solution definitely exists, the use of Blockchain for election voting can be used, but is it true as you say, can blockchain be a solution to cheating in the election process? I'm sure not. No matter how good the system is, if it is run corruptly and dishonestly, it's the same.
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I personally believe more in the security of the blockchain than a ballot box made using technology that is subject to alteration and fraud, controlled by the government itself.

The system is tight enough to forbids any form of manipulations but the problem is that will the people allow for that, they will definitely go against the use of rather finds a means they can as well manipulate the data entry they are going to submit to the blockchain network, the issue we can have is that, if the people at the top which happens to be our political leaders are taken the challenge of making things work out, then the whole process would have been easier to achieve fairness, just as you see it with the bitcoin network, the transparency is there including trust and immutability.

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The use of blockchain in elections implies at least some integrity in the voting results. Why do officials need integrity in voting? Show me one country where there is honest voting. There is no such country. Officials in any country are not interested in fair elections, so blockchain is unlikely to be used in such events. At least not in the near future.

There is truth in what you say. It seems that no election can be said to be clean and without cheating. Because whoever is strong and has a lot of money is the one who can win the election. Here in our country, I have never seen a clean election, especially since the use of smart machines is very easy for fraudulent people to use.

Now, if blockchain technology can be used for election vote counting, it will be better to say that it cannot be cheated by any political candidates to control it, in my opinion.

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