Users who spread false/fake/unhelpful information on technical board

[OgNasty]

I think in order to be mad at someone for spreading misinformation you have to determine if it’s being done because the person is an idiot and doesn’t understand something that they think they do, or if they are genuinely trying to spread FUD. Both are possible, but one is evil. This is why we should be very thankful for the knowledgeable people who sit in that section all day and help people with difficult solutions for no pay.

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[nutildah]

I think in order to be mad at someone for spreading misinformation you have to determine if it’s being done because the person is an idiot and doesn’t understand something that they think they do, or if they are genuinely trying to spread FUD.

In this case they are just pasting stuff from ChatGPT, which is often wrong when it comes down to the technical details of how bitcoin works. I remember seeing one such poster post about how the internet isn't required to make cryptocurrency transactions. But they posted it in Altcoin Discussion so it didn't matter as much, because nobody really reads what's in there.

[ABCbits]

I think in order to be mad at someone for spreading misinformation you have to determine if it’s being done because the person is an idiot and doesn’t understand something that they think they do, or if they are genuinely trying to spread FUD. Both are possible, but one is evil.

It's hard to measure such thing. So it's more practical to use different measurement such as whether the information could less to financial loss or how frequent someone spread misinformation. Although IMO most of them simply copy-paste whatever generated by AI they use.

[ABCbits]

User: Prince_vlad

Tap root is a significant upgrade with the adoption of bitcoin core version 0.21.0. It introduces several improvements, including enhanced privacy, improved smart contract flexibility and increased efficiency
Tap root address is a pay to public key hash (p2pkh) address that utilizes the new taproot script. Tap root addresses provide increased privacy by allowing multiple parties to collaborate on complex transactions without revealing the details of the transactions script. It also enables more advanced smart contract capabilities. With taproot complex smart contracts can be represented as a single public key, known as taproot key. This shows that more sophisticated transactions can be implemented simply using taproot addresses

1. Off-topic response since the thread asking about generating Taproot address with Python.
2. Taproot address (P2TR) is NOT P2PKH address.
3. Taproot actually improve privacy by only revealing used/necessary portion of the script.
4. Not all script/smart contract can be represented as a single public key.

Installating bitcoin core requires several steps which may yet depending on the operating system involved
The first step however is downloading bitcoin core software by visiting the official bitcoin website (bitcoincore.org) choose the appropriate version for your operating system
Once downloaded proceed the installation process by following the on screen instructions
- initial synchronization; after the installation is complete the software will begin the process of synchronization with the bitcoin network , which involves downloading the entire blockchain history. Although this may take time depending on the speed of the internet and the current size of the blockchain
-secure the wallet; It is required to encrypt your wallet with a strong passphrase for added security,
Also regularly check for new versions and security updates by keeping up to date with the latest releases

1. Off-topic response since the thread asking about verifying Bitcoin Core file.
2. "Choose the appropriate version"? When newer version of Bitcoin Core released, usually it's available for all supported OS. People should choose latest version, unless they have very specific need.
3. Computer hardware also play big factor on duration of initial sync.

It's also suspected this user use AI to create his post, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456516.msg63524512#msg63524512.

[nutildah]

User: Prince_vlad
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Already nuked. That was fast.

Looks like they were reported as early as Jan 20.

[ABCbits]

User: OGsmall

Note: I edit suspicious link and reduce image size on his post to prevent someone got scammed/hacked and to make quoted post below easier to read.

I followed this step but after clicking the next button, I got this error

I was unable to proceed as well, you are not wrong. Report this on  https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum

It is a bug.

I tried it on Desktop Electum and it worked. But not working on Android. Maybe a lower version may work on Android. But best is to report it so that it can be solved in the next update, or use desktop version of Electrum.

I gist OP is right maybe you should report this types of problems to the support @electrum.co.za. Or still you should get a new version for the windows

medium dot com/@doyosuge8473/how-to-restore-your-electrum-wallet-if-you-lose-2fa-178b09330f7f

1. electrum.co.za isn't official Electrum's website.
2. When i visit electrum.co.za, actually it's website about payment service. It's not related with Electrum at all.
3. Medium article mentioned contain download link to known fake Electrum website. See [WARNING] electrumupdatefiles.com - Fake site hosting malicious electrum apps.

<a class="af nb" href="electrumupdatefiles dot com/electrum-3.3.8-setup.exe" rel="noopener ugc nofollow" target="_blank"><strong class="ne gu">Download Electrum Wallet Setup version for Windows</strong></a>

Here's archive link to the medium article, https://web.archive.org/web/20240218092926/https://medium.com/@doyosuge8473/how-to-restore-your-electrum-wallet-if-you-lose-2fa-178b09330f7f.

Hi everyone.

I'm struggling with the taproot address.

In python, how to convert a hexadecimal privatekey to taproot address?

I use bech32m lib but the taproot address generated is doesn't match to the correct address.

Can anyone explain taproot address generation process? I want use a hexadecimal privatekey to generate taproot address.

Thank you.

Well From the Little search and knowledge i think you should try to coverts your personal key to a wallet and it should be a new version 0 maybe on your phone or desktop.
This are some steps you could take just follow them!!
Step 1


Step2

Step3

This should be of help after run them

Try to check on this link to confirm it OP
 
https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/118135/get-the-scriptpubkey-from-a-taproot-address

1. Those screenshot actually taken from question shown on https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/118135/get-the-scriptpubkey-from-a-taproot-address.
2. I don't know what exactly he mean by version 0. But if he refer to witness version, it should be version 1 since version 0 refer to SegWit.


It's also worth to mention that this user claiming image found internet as his own, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485523.msg63680247#msg63680247.

[LoyceV]

I was surprised by the amount of BS in SamReomo's post on the tech board. Context: a Newbie asked for help with long-term Bitcoin storage. I've included my comments in this quote:

I suggest you to go with Electrum, it's one of the best wallets for storing your Bitcoin.

Electrum is a good wallet. But a hot wallet is never a good solution for long-term storage.

If you really want to have 100% security then I suggest you to buy a separate laptop and install an operating system in it and after installing a fresh copy of the operating system, then you should install electrum wallet.

That's not "100% secure". It's insecure. Any new Windows laptop should be considered insecure the moment you connect it to the internet. If you want 100% security, you'll need a cold storage setup on an air-gapped system. None of that is recommended for novice Bitcoin users.

Create your wallet on Electrum and save your seed phrase on a safe location. I suggest you to save one copy of your seed phrase on your device's hard drive or ssd
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After that disconnect that laptop from internet. That way you have an air-gapped system and your Bitcoin are 100% safe.

This is the dumbest thing I've read today. Do not store your seed phrase in clear text on your device!
An air-gapped system is a system that has never touched the internet. Once it's been online, it should be considered compromised. That's the only way to be absolutely certain it's secure.

[JeromeTash]

I was surprised by the amount of BS in SamReomo's post on the tech board. Context: a Newbie asked for help with long-term Bitcoin storage.

Ironically, about a month ago, he posted this in this very thread  

[ABCbits]

I was surprised by the amount of BS in SamReomo's post on the tech board. Context: a Newbie asked for help with long-term Bitcoin storage. I've included my comments in this quote:
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Electrum also can be used as cold wallet, the developer even wrote a guide about it on https://electrum.readthedocs.io/en/latest/coldstorage.html, but otherwise you're right. Suggesting to store recovery words on device without mention encryption is really bad suggestion, especially due to risk the device might be stolen. And it reminds me of his past nonsense,

Wine is a safe and open-source virtualization solution that allows to run Windows based applications on Linux and the applications on Wine run in a virtualized environment which won't affect the applications that run on the real Linux host system. I believe windows based malware won't impact the host of the Linux system as Windows malware are built in a way that they can affect Windows based users only.

The files and the whole Kernel module of Windows operating system is changed from Linux and that's another proof that Windows viruses and malware won't be able to penetrate Linux operating system. However, it's always recommended to avoid installing any application on the systems where someone saves his/her Bitcoin. Just don't be paranoid by such thoughts the Linux is a safe operating system and Windows malware can't harm it at all.

[LoyceV]

Electrum also can be used as cold wallet, the developer even wrote a guide about it on https://electrum.readthedocs.io/en/latest/coldstorage.html

The worst part was this:

After that disconnect that laptop from internet. That way you have an air-gapped system

So many people still think they're "air-gapped" if they temporarily disconnect their internet.

[SamReomo]

I was surprised by the amount of BS in SamReomo's post on the tech board. Context: a Newbie asked for help with long-term Bitcoin storage. I've included my comments in this quote:

Good to know that someone can really share your posts that way even if you give accurate information. LoyceV, I suggested him to go for an air-gapped system after setting the wallet. I guess ABCbits has shared something valuable about cold wallet which I'll note from now on.

Most newbies aren't aware of Linux operating system. Installing and using Electrum on Linux for such people may be out of question, I know that it's safe to go with Electrum on Linux but most users aren't Linux users so it won't be easy for them to move from Windows to Linux and install Electrum on that new operating system.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Most newbies aren't aware of Linux operating system. Installing and using Electrum on Linux for such people may be out of question, I know that it's safe to go with Electrum on Linux but most users aren't Linux users so it won't be easy for them to move from Windows to Linux and install Electrum on that new operating system.

Why are you sure that using Electrum on Linux is safe? Do you know the meaning of the expression monkey with a grenade?
You can just as easily expose yourself to a virus by copying the wrong command into the terminal and being exposed to a virus.
On the other side, I am a Linux lover and very careful when handling it, but even as an amateur, not a professional, installing an electrum wallet from Appimage seems to me to be one of the simplest things.

[SamReomo]

Why are you sure that using Electrum on Linux is safe? Do you know the meaning of the expression monkey with a grenade?

Linux is safe as an operating system as compared to Windows OS, and that's why it's recommend by tech experts and is used in most datacenters. I won't go deep but open-source software or operating systems are more safe as compared to closed-source ones.

You can just as easily expose yourself to a virus by copying the wrong command into the terminal and being exposed to a virus.

I believe what you have said is true, but most Linux users are technically good and they avoid copying and pasting of wrong commands in terminal.

On the other side, I am a Linux lover and very careful when handling it, but even as an amateur, not a professional, installing an electrum wallet from Appimage seems to me to be one of the simplest things.

It's good to know that you're a Linux lover, but I don't agree that installing electrum wallet on Linux is that simple. I know if someone has technical expertise then for that person it isn't a hard task but for an armature with no technical knowledge won't be able to do that easily. On the other hand installing or running portable version of Electrum on Windows OS can be done easily by someone with no technical skills.

[FatFork]

I was surprised by the amount of BS in SamReomo's post on the tech board. Context: a Newbie asked for help with long-term Bitcoin storage. I've included my comments in this quote:

Good to know that someone can really share your posts that way even if you give accurate information. LoyceV, I suggested him to go for an air-gapped system after setting the wallet. I guess ABCbits has shared something valuable about cold wallet which I'll note from now on.

But why would you even suggest something like that if you don't know what you're talking about? That's just plain wrong.

The whole point of an air-gapped system is to physically isolate your data, preventing its leakage online. There is no point "to go for an air-gapped system" after setting up the wallet, since this is the most critical part of the whole process.

[ABCbits]

I was surprised by the amount of BS in SamReomo's post on the tech board. Context: a Newbie asked for help with long-term Bitcoin storage. I've included my comments in this quote:

Good to know that someone can really share your posts that way even if you give accurate information. LoyceV, I suggested him to go for an air-gapped system after setting the wallet. I guess ABCbits has shared something valuable about cold wallet which I'll note from now on.

But it also contain has inaccurate information. And while we're it, could you edit your post to remove or cross-out the inaccurate information?

On the other side, I am a Linux lover and very careful when handling it, but even as an amateur, not a professional, installing an electrum wallet from Appimage seems to me to be one of the simplest things.

It's good to know that you're a Linux lover, but I don't agree that installing electrum wallet on Linux is that simple. I know if someone has technical expertise then for that person it isn't a hard task but for an armature with no technical knowledge won't be able to do that easily. On the other hand installing or running portable version of Electrum on Windows OS can be done easily by someone with no technical skills.

If you ever tried using Electrum Appimage, you wouldn't say that. Download and run Appimage (Linux) is nearly as easy as download and run portable version (Windows). Here's a very simple GUI guide, https://itsfoss.com/use-appimage-linux/.

[LoyceV]

I suggested him to go for an air-gapped system after setting the wallet.

It's as if you don't want to understand what it's about. That's okay, but stop telling others it's safe. Incorrect advice on the tech board can make people lose their money.

[SamReomo]

But it also contain has inaccurate information. And while we're it, could you edit your post to remove or cross-out the inaccurate information?

Although, the information I gave isn't very inaccurate and I'm sure it won't cause problems for anyone but I respect you guys opinion and that's why I removed that post of mine. I'm also going to stop posting on that board from now own because I guess there are already enough tech experts on that board who share very valuable information.

If you ever tried using Electrum Appimage, you wouldn't say that. Download and run Appimage (Linux) is nearly as easy as download and run portable version (Windows). Here's a very simple GUI guide, https://itsfoss.com/use-appimage-linux/.

Yes, I have personally tried to run the Appimage of Electrum on Lubuntu Linux and I faced issues during launching of that Appimage, I sorted the issue because I have been using Linux for many years but those who just transition to Linux may not be able to fix such issues easily.

I suggested him to go for an air-gapped system after setting the wallet.

It's as if you don't want to understand what it's about. That's okay, but stop telling others it's safe. Incorrect advice on the tech board can make people lose their money.

Thanks for your suggestion, I have removed that post.

[lovesmayfamilis]

If you ever tried using Electrum Appimage, you wouldn't say that. Download and run Appimage (Linux) is nearly as easy as download and run portable version (Windows). Here's a very simple GUI guide, https://itsfoss.com/use-appimage-linux/.

Yes, I have personally tried to run the Appimage of Electrum on Lubuntu Linux and I faced issues during launching of that Appimage, I sorted the issue because I have been using Linux for many years but those who just transition to Linux may not be able to fix such issues easily.

Having problem putting a checkmark in the right place?

Conversation between a deaf and a blind man.

[ABCbits]

If you ever tried using Electrum Appimage, you wouldn't say that. Download and run Appimage (Linux) is nearly as easy as download and run portable version (Windows). Here's a very simple GUI guide, https://itsfoss.com/use-appimage-linux/.

Yes, I have personally tried to run the Appimage of Electrum on Lubuntu Linux and I faced issues during launching of that Appimage, I sorted the issue because I have been using Linux for many years but those who just transition to Linux may not be able to fix such issues easily.

Having problem putting a checkmark in the right place?

Conversation between a deaf and a blind man.

I wouldn't go that far, in very rare instance AppImage might fail to run on certain linux distro. Here's an example, https://docs.appimage.org/user-guide/troubleshooting/fuse.html.

[ABCbits]

This user already have 4 neutral feedback and now he decide to spam technical board.

User: Silver005

Yes, it is possible to bridge out from Bitcoin Testnet to Bitcoin Signet. There are a few different ways to do this, but the most common is to use a bridge contract. A bridge contract is a smart contract that allows you to convert your Testnet bitcoins into Signet bitcoins. To use a bridge contract, you'll need to have a wallet that supports both Testnet and Signet, such as the Metamask wallet. Once you have your wallet set up, you can then use the bridge contract to transfer your Testnet bitcoins to Signet. The process is fairly straightforward, but it's important to follow the instructions carefully to ensure the transfer is successfully..
 Once you've bridged out your bitcoins, you'll be able to use them on the Signet network. It's important to note that while you can bridge out from Testnet to Signet, you cannot bridge back from Signet to Testnet. Additionally, you should be aware that Signet is still in beta, and there may be some bugs or issues that arise. Overall, bridging out from Testnet to Signet is a relatively simple process, but it's always a good idea to proceed with caution when dealing with cryptocurrency.

Another reply on same thread already explain why it's impossible. In addition,
1. Metamask doesn't support Bitcoin.
2. Bitcoin have no smart contract, but only non-turing complete scripting.
3. Few other mistake i don't bother to point out.