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January 25, 2024, 06:12:26 AM
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A few days ago, my house was being cleaned. Three people are cleaning the front and back yards of the house. One of them was playing slots and I saw him. Actually, I wanted to suggest he try sports betting because I often see the guy watching football matches and he does have knowledge about many teams. So I was wondering if I could introduce him to sports betting so he could use his ability to predict every game he knows about.

Besides that, I just feel that if he deposited $10 = IDR 150,000 into a gambling site just to play slots, he would probably suffer a complete loss. But if he can place bets on sports betting, there is a possibility of him winning some money on small bets. Wouldn't that be an advantage for him?

If you were in this situation, what would you do? Introduce him to sports betting or let him stick to playing slots. Yesterday, I just let it go but we still often meet at other activities.
The person may be attracted to the slot game due to which he is participating in the slot game. But of course you should have convinced the guy about sports betting. Since you said he is good at sports, surely he can predict some matches and bet from sports betting. Slot is a game based entirely on luck and no one can make money from this game so of course if I were here I would show him sports betting and explain it to him.

People who like to watch football matches and have knowledge about many teams does not mean that they are also good in analyzing and predicting. If the knowledge is just limited to basic thing such as which players are good or bad and something similar. It will be hard for these people to jump into sports betting, we all know that there are many people in this world who love to watch football matches but not all of them is good on sports betting. All in all, it is about preferences on what game to gamble our money.

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January 25, 2024, 07:20:42 AM
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There is not really any reason to do anything, this person already knows about casinos, online gambling and how to do this on their smartphone, if they wanted to make sport bets they would do so, and it is even likely that they have made those bets before anyway.
So just leave him alone, since there is not really any reason to try to meddle and interfere with his hobbies, especially since they have not asked for your advice on the matter.

That's correct and this is the point I was also trying to make when I commented on this thread the last time. This individual already knows everything about gambling as that's how gamblers do. It could be he has tried  many types of gambling but wasn't successful and only slot games are working for him. Don't disturb him by telling him to try sport betting, what will you do for him if he tries it and become addicted that he starts gambling irresponsibly and loses his money.

Before the individual is playing only slot games, it would be that it's what he understand better as we gamblers always play only games that we think we're good at and have a higher chance of winning. No individual will see a game that he doesn't know how to play and start gambling on the games. Teaching anybody how to gamble doesn't end well as you'll be the one to take all the blame for their losses.

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January 25, 2024, 08:00:05 AM
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If he's just playing for fun, let him be, and if by playing slots he wants to win, give him education about sport betting that you know.
Initially playing for fun and to fill spare time, but over time with the more often they play, this will become an addiction that will be difficult to get rid of.

In fact, I saw some of my friends play with quite a lot of money that used to buy chips without caring how much was spent.
This has crossed the line of course.

Education about sports betting also needs to be balanced with an understanding of how they bet and not just choosing team A or B,
but there will be analysis that needs to be done.
As well as management for betting must be done so that the use of money can be more controlled.

I agree with you, because there are not a few people who gamble like this. maybe at first they saw their friends gambling and got a win but they just saw it without being interested, but when they were alone and bored they might think of the gambling they did, and with the aim of filling their spare time they did gambling with the beginning just for trial and error, but usually the beginning of gambling will get a win whose purpose is to attract them to be more confident to continue gambling, and this is what makes them addicted to gambling, which was originally just trial and error but became addicted.

I think that with the actions taken by your friend,  they tend not to think about the risk side, maybe they only think about fun games as well as profitable ones, so they can spend a lot of money to buy chips just for one gambling session I agree with you, betting on sports must indeed be balanced because otherwise it is likely that it will only end in big losses.

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January 25, 2024, 08:55:11 AM
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A few days ago, my house was being cleaned. Three people are cleaning the front and back yards of the house. One of them was playing slots and I saw him. Actually, I wanted to suggest he try sports betting because I often see the guy watching football matches and he does have knowledge about many teams. So I was wondering if I could introduce him to sports betting so he could use his ability to predict every game he knows about.

Besides that, I just feel that if he deposited $10 = IDR 150,000 into a gambling site just to play slots, he would probably suffer a complete loss. But if he can place bets on sports betting, there is a possibility of him winning some money on small bets. Wouldn't that be an advantage for him?

If you were in this situation, what would you do? Introduce him to sports betting or let him stick to playing slots. Yesterday, I just let it go but we still often meet at other activities.
The person may be attracted to the slot game due to which he is participating in the slot game. But of course you should have convinced the guy about sports betting. Since you said he is good at sports, surely he can predict some matches and bet from sports betting. Slot is a game based entirely on luck and no one can make money from this game so of course if I were here I would show him sports betting and explain it to him.

People who like to watch football matches and have knowledge about many teams does not mean that they are also good in analyzing and predicting. If the knowledge is just limited to basic thing such as which players are good or bad and something similar. It will be hard for these people to jump into sports betting, we all know that there are many people in this world who love to watch football matches but not all of them is good on sports betting. All in all, it is about preferences on what game to gamble our money.
It is true that many people like football but cannot make good predictions by watching football because predicting matches and liking the game are not the same. Sometimes it is very difficult to win by betting on sports betting. In some matches the team lost even though victory was assured. Still playing slot dice games is much better than betting on sports betting. Sometimes people with good knowledge about sports can participate in betting by researching the matches but sometimes not by analyzing the slot dice game.

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January 25, 2024, 09:17:41 AM
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We have to be careful suggesting something to someone because if it turns south they will want to throw blames at us for ever introducing them to such a thing but then it's not out of place to introduce them anyways they can choose to do it or not.
That will always be the case. But it's important to remember that if someone follows another person's suggestion and the outcome doesn't meet their expectations, they shouldn't blame the person who made the suggestion. Ultimately, it was their own decision to act on the suggestion, and they wouldn't be in that situation if they hadn't made the decision themselves. The time when they can blame someone if something bad happens to them. For instance, if they are the ones making decisions about where to place bets or if they are the ones playing using your money.


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January 25, 2024, 11:02:37 AM
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There is not really any reason to do anything, this person already knows about casinos, online gambling and how to do this on their smartphone, if they wanted to make sport bets they would do so, and it is even likely that they have made those bets before anyway.

So just leave him alone, since there is not really any reason to try to meddle and interfere with his hobbies, especially since they have not asked for your advice on the matter.

True. Hard to imagine that a grown up man knows about gambling and casino, and wasnt familiar with sports betting. Specially nowadays, when we have casino ads everywhere, on tv, banners, unskipped ads on video hosting services and etc. On the other hand, giving an advice, or introduce something to someone, if you wasnt does not look good. It could be acceptable, if they had a conversation before. But OP only noticed someone playing slots and intended to give a suggestion. If someone approached me and talked about something that he spied or spotted, I would not be happy about it.

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January 25, 2024, 12:24:11 PM
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If you were in this situation, what would you do? Introduce him to sports betting or let him stick to playing slots. Yesterday, I just let it go but we still often meet at other activities.
Nothing, I'm not a type of person who like to interfere what others do especially if I do not know them much.
It is not even your business, so why do you need to be so confused on what to do when you know that he is playing slot game?
Do you think that if you suggest him to play sports betting, will be something better for him?
Even if it is your own best friend, as long as he is enjoying what he does with slot, why do you need to introduce him about sports betting?
Maybe he is also gambling on sports already but you do not know about it, how if it is happened and he has better knowledge than you about sports betting?

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January 25, 2024, 12:28:20 PM
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Given your situation, I'd be curious but cautious. Introduce someone to sports betting, especially if they like sports, seems interesting and fascinating. His activity would be more exciting with it. Giving a painter new brushes adds dimension without affecting their interest.

Betting, whether on sports or slots, carries its own set of challenges, particularly financial ones. I would explain that sports betting involves strategy, luck, and game knowledge. Responsible gaming should be seen as entertainment rather than a source of money.

To gauge his passion and knowledge, I'd probably start a casual football conversation. Sports betting might replace slots if he's interested. I'd emphasize setting limitations and not expecting constant wins. Not to replace gambling, but to make the game more fun. Your advice may be a nice nudge toward a more joyful gambling experience since you see him often.

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January 25, 2024, 01:11:32 PM
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You are both right. Slots games qre all about luck and there is no form of tactics in it.
However there are other games like the football game that have some slite strategy that gamblers can apply to it, but the strategies can not also work without the help of luck.
So I guess one can not win a single round of bet without the help of luck attached to it. But most gamblers who are putting their minds or hopes in the strategies that they are applying in their bets thinks that their strategies are what is making them to win any time they won a bet but that's not true because your strategy is just like your instincts but when your instincts are not correct the whole things will be wrong, so luck is what makes gamblers to win and not the tactics.

Yes of course because this is the real fact about games like slots, you don't need to bother to prepare a lot of strategies or ways because obviously this type of gambling only depends on luck and you have also said this, but honestly lately this type of game is increasingly popular and the population of people who gamble there is increasing, the unfortunate thing is that more of them are suffering a lot of financial problems due to the wrong approach to gambling which they think is easy to win when in fact it is not at all unless they are really lucky and this means that wins are more occasional and instead it is the losses that often dominate, I think in this case the problem is the excessive level of hope in something that runs without any certainty and guarantees and purely relies on luck alone.

So the bottom line in my opinion and my advice is that it's better to get involved in sports betting because as you said they can apply some analysis if they already have a good understanding of the world of sports and also with this then I'm sure that the level of defeat will not be too frequent and this can prevent you from losing a significant amount, And yes it is true that even if we have a very good knowledge in the world of sports but still this will not be able to fully bring us to victory, we must understand that after all this is still gambling which means that the final result cannot be fully predicted and that means you are right that luck still has a very important role to play for a determination at the end of the session whether you will win or lose, so don't be too confident and still use risk management.

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January 25, 2024, 01:30:37 PM
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If you were in this situation, what would you do? Introduce him to sports betting or let him stick to playing slots. Yesterday, I just let it go but we still often meet at other activities.

What is your basis for suggesting to him that he would be better off betting on sports betting, while you don't know for sure what he is actually doing with his gambling. I mean this, there are many things we don't know, especially if gambling is someone's private domain. It could be that the person just wants to have fun playing slots, even though in reality the person is also betting on sports betting. Maybe at that time, by chance you saw him playing a slot game.
The opposite question is, how well do you know the person? Do you have good communication with each other, by getting to know each other? If so, maybe you can start discussing gambling, sports betting, even slot games. That way, at least you have an idea about the person and his gambling. In fact, you might even get gambling tips from him and share experiences. that way, it would be much better than you directly suggesting it.

If I tried to be in that situation, I would not interfere with his activities and gambling. yeah, as respect as part of his privacy. except, he welcomed me and chatted, especially if there was a discussion about gambling. in this way, we can exchange experiences. Moreover, I really like betting on football. This would be much better and more ethical than carelessly expressing opinions or suggestions, which would not necessarily be met with a good response.

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January 25, 2024, 03:40:24 PM
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I don't understand what's the relationship between you and them? are they your family members? if yes, you can try to introduce him to sports, otherwise you don't have to mind someone else business. Sharing about your gambling experience with him is fine, as long as you said the truth especially if you make money in sports betting.

I doubt if he's unaware with sports betting, most casinos already have slots, table games and sports.
I think sharing a gambling experience is still the same as introducing him to sports because he may still get curious with it and engage on it later on. And if he already knows it, it might still encourage him to play more especially if what we are sharing are only/mostly winning moments.

Sharing experience is different from simply bragging or story telling where the ones who does it usually didn't even experience what they are talking about. Though IDK, maybe some still does it. These people will feel bad if they tell truth about their gambling sessions, that they are mostly losing. But if you are not new in gambling, you will still know the truth about it.

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January 25, 2024, 05:04:26 PM
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A few days ago, my house was being cleaned. Three people are cleaning the front and back yards of the house. One of them was playing slots and I saw him. Actually, I wanted to suggest he try sports betting because I often see the guy watching football matches and he does have knowledge about many teams. So I was wondering if I could introduce him to sports betting so he could use his ability to predict every game he knows about.

Besides that, I just feel that if he deposited $10 = IDR 150,000 into a gambling site just to play slots, he would probably suffer a complete loss. But if he can place bets on sports betting, there is a possibility of him winning some money on small bets. Wouldn't that be an advantage for him?

If you were in this situation, what would you do? Introduce him to sports betting or let him stick to playing slots. Yesterday, I just let it go but we still often meet at other activities.
The person may be attracted to the slot game due to which he is participating in the slot game. But of course you should have convinced the guy about sports betting. Since you said he is good at sports, surely he can predict some matches and bet from sports betting. Slot is a game based entirely on luck and no one can make money from this game so of course if I were here I would show him sports betting and explain it to him.

People who like to watch football matches and have knowledge about many teams does not mean that they are also good in analyzing and predicting. If the knowledge is just limited to basic thing such as which players are good or bad and something similar. It will be hard for these people to jump into sports betting, we all know that there are many people in this world who love to watch football matches but not all of them is good on sports betting. All in all, it is about preferences on what game to gamble our money.
Also, not all people are into betting with sports. For what reason? Only them could answer but to my understanding we do have our own preferences. Perhaps on my case; I am into online sportsbetting but I don't bet that much in football unlike with basketball leagues although I also watch football games and this is simply because of personal preference. Let us accept that we have our own ways in this gambling industry. What if he's the one to tell you the same thing? to play on casino games? What would you do? No matter how you reason out, things won't change unless the gambler himself choose to engage with his own initiative.

As others have said, nothing is guaranteed in gambling; no matter where you play, you would either lose or win in your bet regardless if you are really into it or not. No analysis will give you a hundred percent chance of winning the game. Also, not all are here for passion perhaps with the sports that they like; some are playing out of boredom and in those instances play n' go games are more likely to be played by them. Some people just don't want to involve their feelings in gambling such as with sportsbetting wherein some gamblers are becoming frustrated of their favorite team's lost even if without bet.

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January 25, 2024, 05:39:37 PM
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A few days ago, my house was being cleaned. Three people are cleaning the front and back yards of the house. One of them was playing slots and I saw him. Actually, I wanted to suggest he try sports betting because I often see the guy watching football matches and he does have knowledge about many teams. So I was wondering if I could introduce him to sports betting so he could use his ability to predict every game he knows about.

Besides that, I just feel that if he deposited $10 = IDR 150,000 into a gambling site just to play slots, he would probably suffer a complete loss. But if he can place bets on sports betting, there is a possibility of him winning some money on small bets. Wouldn't that be an advantage for him?

If you were in this situation, what would you do? Introduce him to sports betting or let him stick to playing slots. Yesterday, I just let it go but we still often meet at other activities.

People may have their priorities. And just because you saw him play slots on his phone doesn't me he don't do sports betting. He might be much deeper into sports betting but we can't confirm it by seeing him for few minutes. Slots and Poker gambling are different than sports betting. Games based bet are engaging and are a good way to entertain in your spare time.
Unlike other form of gambling like slots, people don't spend a large time on sports betting and would be rather busy on watching matches live. Sports betting is something you can do easily within a minute on the site if you are following the teams and trends.



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January 25, 2024, 07:28:45 PM
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I'd say to do the cleaning job first before anything else. If I'm paying them to clean then they need to be honest with their jobs and finish it first before doing some bets.

And then, after that, when the job is done then I'd highly talk about how he started to gamble and what his preference aside from that.

If my words stick to him then if we meet again, we'll talk about what has happened whether he has listened or not.


If they are doing their job well the way you want it, you need to mind your business because, maybe they are using that cleaning job to gamble and to pay other bills that will help them to live a free live in the environment and there are some people who don't show up as a gamblers base on some family they came from.

There are some people the moment you tell them about what you saw them doing at the working place, they will start avoiding you for some reason because, their minds will be thinking different things that will make them to be far from you even though you have some job for them to do for you

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January 25, 2024, 07:40:50 PM
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I'd say to do the cleaning job first before anything else. If I'm paying them to clean then they need to be honest with their jobs and finish it first before doing some bets.
And then, after that, when the job is done then I'd highly talk about how he started to gamble and what his preference aside from that.
If my words stick to him then if we meet again, we'll talk about what has happened whether he has listened or not.
If they are doing their job well the way you want it, you need to mind your business because, maybe they are using that cleaning job to gamble and to pay other bills that will help them to live a free live in the environment and there are some people who don't show up as a gamblers base on some family they came from.

There are some people the moment you tell them about what you saw them doing at the working place, they will start avoiding you for some reason because, their minds will be thinking different things that will make them to be far from you even though you have some job for them to do for you

if they are on the job, yes, better finish first what you paid for. then, maybe, after the day is over, that's when you can talk with them about this another activity involving sportsbetting. because if you will talk to them while the day is not over, it means, you are not very strict with the work they need to be done, and won't get the results you want. but of course, you can make friends with them after work.

Given your situation, I'd be curious but cautious. Introduce someone to sports betting, especially if they like sports, seems interesting and fascinating. His activity would be more exciting with it. Giving a painter new brushes adds dimension without affecting their interest.

Betting, whether on sports or slots, carries its own set of challenges, particularly financial ones. I would explain that sports betting involves strategy, luck, and game knowledge. Responsible gaming should be seen as entertainment rather than a source of money.

To gauge his passion and knowledge, I'd probably start a casual football conversation. Sports betting might replace slots if he's interested. I'd emphasize setting limitations and not expecting constant wins. Not to replace gambling, but to make the game more fun. Your advice may be a nice nudge toward a more joyful gambling experience since you see him often.

that is true, don't introduce sportsbetting right away. check the pulse first. throw something related to sports in your conversation, and see what kind of interest he will give to you. in time, you will know more about his passion and interest. slots may be too easy on him because you don't have to think about it. but when it comes to sportsbetting, you need more analysis time and if you have the interest to acquire more info to improve your chances. you won't know the extent of his interest up until you spend more time with him. and that is for you to consider if you have such time that you can allocate for him.


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January 25, 2024, 07:57:24 PM
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If you were in this situation, what would you do? Introduce him to sports betting or let him stick to playing slots. Yesterday, I just let it go but we still often meet at other activities.
Nothing, I'm not a type of person who like to interfere what others do especially if I do not know them much.
It is not even your business, so why do you need to be so confused on what to do when you know that he is playing slot game?
Do you think that if you suggest him to play sports betting, will be something better for him?
Even if it is your own best friend, as long as he is enjoying what he does with slot, why do you need to introduce him about sports betting?
Maybe he is also gambling on sports already but you do not know about it, how if it is happened and he has better knowledge than you about sports betting?


Sometimes gamblers can care about others, as a means of sharing information. The only weird thing is that Op is getting obsessed about the encounter or intro he shared with his friend. Though such discussions mostly end void, as you said. Because the difference is not much between soccer or slot games. Which may have led the gambler to slots, despite his vast knowledge of sports. Some gamblers, however, accepts the thought that sport gambling is profitable than slot games. Yet come out to argue that gambling is not profitable. They wouldn't have been need for slot players to exist if the sport game is quite a better source of money in gambling. Most people prefer playing slots because they don't understand fully well about the match. Sports gambling is very passionate. People gamble out of passion for a specific team.

One reason sport gambling is much difficult compared to slots. A football fan focuses on few factors as team possessive values. Who plays for which team. Those assumptions don't result to a sustainable reason to wager money on the team. It's better the person stays playing slots where he gambles out of luck. And possess less time to invest, looking up for team statistics before gambling. A slot player only bothers about his duration and money he wagers, while he enjoys the game win or loss. But the football type of gambling leaves the gambler almost worried and hyperactive, when watching the game and sober if they lose the match. Such feelings are not preferable for a gambler. Slot players who behave this way would easily get addicted, same as the football gambler. People only think that the slot game has more of addicts than sports gambling. Yet they're both gambling activities, which still revolves around the general rule of self-control and money management. Both offers high winning possibilities.

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January 25, 2024, 08:07:26 PM
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A few days ago, my house was being cleaned. Three people are cleaning the front and back yards of the house. One of them was playing slots and I saw him. Actually, I wanted to suggest he try sports betting because I often see the guy watching football matches and he does have knowledge about many teams. So I was wondering if I could introduce him to sports betting so he could use his ability to predict every game he knows about.

Besides that, I just feel that if he deposited $10 = IDR 150,000 into a gambling site just to play slots, he would probably suffer a complete loss. But if he can place bets on sports betting, there is a possibility of him winning some money on small bets. Wouldn't that be an advantage for him?

If you were in this situation, what would you do? Introduce him to sports betting or let him stick to playing slots. Yesterday, I just let it go but we still often meet at other activities.

It's better to mind your own business and not be pointing people to new situations where they will end up losing money. If someone has stumbled across the ability to gamble money on slots, they're most definitely already aware that gambling on sports is a possibility and maybe they have chosen the casino already. At least with slots they get to eek out their money, but sports betting is pretty much a single win or lose scenario. It's a bit silly to suggest that they are unaware that they can bet on sports and maybe they have tried it in the past then decided on casino games. Either way, people who are cleaning should probably not be wasting money on this when they are probably stuck in a low paid job already and will end up wasting money on it.

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January 25, 2024, 08:23:11 PM
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If you were in this situation, what would you do? Introduce him to sports betting or let him stick to playing slots. Yesterday, I just let it go but we still often meet at other activities.

Just as a part of a friendly discussion, I will mention sports betting to him but not to the point that I will push him to do so. Based on your story, it seems that he's already been involved in gambling for a long and surely he knows about sports betting already.

Maybe it's just that he feels lucky playing in slots compared to sports betting even though he has a good knowledge of football. Even if you see him always watching football games, it doesn't mean these types of people are compatible right away in sports betting.

Knowledge is an advantage but you are playing with the odds in sports betting. It's not that simple.
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January 25, 2024, 08:37:00 PM
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Giving advice can indeed be quite useful, after all sports betting will be much easier than casino games but when giving advice you must also provide guidance that there are still risks that he will accept.
The goal is that when he loses he doesn't blame us for giving him the advice to enter sports betting, we don't want to be blamed for the loss he gets.
Not all gamblers can accept defeat and if gambler mindset is really bad then obviously he will blame the third and first party for the loss, if not us then the gambling site will be the one to blame.


The sports bet was considered to be the easiest one because of the prediction made using the sports knowledge.But the sports betting can be used to stake for the longer period to earn huge from it.The risk was always in the gambling whether it’s the sports betting or casino doesn’t matter.The gamblers who play the casino game should understand the game can’t give you huge profit,the maximum amount of the profit can be achieved by the gamblers will be the amount of 2x of their initial investment to the game.But the gamblers get more confidence after the double of their investment using their game in the gambling site.
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I am a little harsh when giving advice to someone. So when I find someone who behaves like that, I will immediately reprimand him and curse him a little. because he really can't act professionally at work. Moreover, this is team work, where when the team works, everyone must work together without exception. And if indeed he cannot control his gambling well and cannot work professionally. So there are only two choices, stop gambling or you will be fired from this job.

Because someone who is wise knows exactly when it is time to gamble and when it is not. They know exactly what is a priority and what is just entertainment. And we must remember that whether gambling is good or bad depends on who is doing it. I will never forbid an employee or worker from being involved in gambling, but provided that they have good discipline and time management.

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