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February 07, 2024, 02:07:45 AM
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The current situation is that I have met him again on many occasions when he was relaxing. We talked about a lot of things and he has started to open up about his gambling activities. He said he had won around $50 or the equivalent of IDR 790,000. But he realized that the amount he won was still far from the total he lost but he said he still enjoyed playing slots.

Then I diverted our conversation to football and I idly asked if he had ever bet on sports betting. He said he had placed a sports bet during the World Cup and won so much money that he could buy a new smartphone. I was amazed to hear that because he could buy a new smartphone.

I also asked him if he still bets frequently on sports betting. He said he had bet on sports betting but could not win as big as before, but it was enough to win for him. He bet on a local betting site but he does not tell the site name. If I advise him to place a bet on a crypto sports betting site, I have to teach him about crypto. Until then, I did not recommend any crypto betting site because he was not ready to learn about a new thing. It will be a long road because there will be a lot of questions about crypto. We'll see Grin
There you have it, so not only he knows about sport bets already, he was even good enough to obtain profits with it, if I am honest it does not really surprise me, as it would be kind of rare for a gambler to not be curious about the rest of the games offered by a casino and try them once in a while to see if he liked them.

And when it comes to teaching him about this market I would think this is not a good idea, because he could always turn his attention to shitcoins instead of gambling and lose a lot more with those scams than what he could have lost by gambling.

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February 07, 2024, 02:20:58 AM
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Both are fun and both are gambling. But each of them offers a different kind of experience and entertainment. I think some people are gambling for the sake of having something to do, to spend idle time. Sports betting does not offer this kind of thing. In sports betting all you have to do is place the bet and that's all. Everything's finished in seconds. Slots and other casino games can offer more than that. There are times when you have a lot of vacant time and you don't know what to do, you're bored, and you want to have fun. Playing slots is one good option in times like that.
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February 07, 2024, 03:21:27 AM
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I do not understand why OP asked himself this question, because this guy will not be able to devote his whole life to gambling and earn so much money to feed his family. And it does not matter whether he will make bets or play a slot machine.

As I understand, cleaning services are used by quite wealthy people. If he is really interested in participating in this guy's life, it is better to help him with education or a more promising job.
Out of curiosity, I suppose. The man appears to be on a break and enjoying himself while gambling, which is when OP may have witnessed him playing while pondering this question.

We do not have any information about whether this person is an employee of the cleaning service or one of the owners of this cleaning service. However, I think that working in a cleaning service is certainly a decent job that pays well enough. It is also considered impolite to offer assistance with education or employment without the person explicitly requesting such help.


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February 07, 2024, 07:40:02 AM
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Well, we are people who always have to be very careful with our money, especially when it comes to playing in the slots, not all people are careful to play in the slots and see if they actually comply with the balance. willing to lose or something like that, it is very difficult to do it the first time, but it can be done, now I am one of the people who did not learn this at once, I learned this thanks to Trading, that same strategy is It is applied in trading and when I see that many things can be applied to gambling, especially in the issue of self-control, something that very few take into consideration, but it is very important.

Now when we see that these things can happen I always realize that things can be very determining if we do them in order, to be in such a situation we must do things in extreme order and only then can we have very good results, this is what we do. I know because I know that in trading things are like that, what you should not do in trading is to think like in gambling, but in gambling you cannot apply much of trading, but there are things about trading that were not considered. gambling, for example, making classes with analysis and ensuring that it is fulfilled because that is how the analysis that was carried out launched it, because that does not work in gambling, however it is always good to apply strategies.

And although many say that strategies don't work, you always have to consider that the best and best things are those that have strategies, I have always said that we are people who should use strategies for everything, they work for me, but I don't use just one , I use many and I do this so as not to Play in a flat way, that is what we are looking for, I will always Consider things that way, that is why we look for the best to do and the best to save our money .
That's what we have to do when playing gambling, whatever the gambling game and not just slot games. But we know that slot games can really make us lose a lot of money because there will be curiosity about the losses we experience, so we will continue playing slots. We don't think about how much money we have used, but we only think about how we can win some money from slot games, including getting big multipliers. It is difficult to get big wins from slot games, so we have to be careful in spending our money and not let us spend it all in one day.

We cannot compare gambling with trading, although if we trade without using analysis, it is almost the same as gambling. However, in trading, we can still make a profit if we keep holding the coin, provided that it is a coin that can potentially increase in the future, for example, bitcoin. But when we can't be careful and lose all the money, we can't recover that loss easily because our money has been lost at the gambling table, and it's really lost us money. But in gambling, we can analyze sports betting so that we can also win, but when we lose, it means we lose the money, too. And it's hard to recover from that loss.

As long as you are willing to learn about analytical skills, it is possible to improve them to help you find teams with a higher chance of winning than other teams. It can give you winnings to make money from sports betting. But we don't forget that we can't always win from sports betting because there will be something that can prevent us from winning, so we have to be able to accept defeat if we do lose.

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February 07, 2024, 07:49:33 AM
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While wanting to help, suggesting sports betting might not be the best solution. Gambling, even with perceived skill, carries inherent risks. Respecting your friend's choices and understanding the underlying reasons behind they gambling could be more helpful. Offer support and resources if needed, but avoid pushing him. Remember, responsible choices require understanding the risks involved.
Maybe he just wanted to tell his friend that the risk of loss experienced by his friend in sports betting was not that big compared to slot gambling, therefore he gave his friend a solution to switch games to sports betting. Maybe it all depends on how his friend makes the right decision regarding this matter, and he certainly won't force his friend to choose what he thinks is fun and comfortable to play. In my opinion, sports games or slots are both gambling games that have very big risks, especially if you are addicted to gambling, it will definitely have a bad impact in the future.

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February 07, 2024, 08:49:09 AM
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A lot have been told here already, but when speaking about gambling, I would suggest to keep advices and intentions to help someone in yourself. If persons needs something, he will ask for help without hesitation. Today people can google and find everything, people so used to searching in the internet, so it is hard to find someone who asks others for suggestion. Lately, nothing radically new were invented in gambling, and I guess everyone is already familiar with everything. So today, if someone approaches with intention to teach something or advice, people look on that person with cautious.

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February 07, 2024, 09:17:36 AM
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A lot have been told here already, but when speaking about gambling, I would suggest to keep advices and intentions to help someone in yourself. If persons needs something, he will ask for help without hesitation. Today people can google and find everything, people so used to searching in the internet, so it is hard to find someone who asks others for suggestion. Lately, nothing radically new were invented in gambling, and I guess everyone is already familiar with everything. So today, if someone approaches with intention to teach something or advice, people look on that person with cautious.

Some people always need advice as people may rush to gambling without googling first or making a small research before gambling.If you see anyone of them it is let's say a moral duty to just advice such persons by telling risks associated with gambling and especially to such persons to tell the odds that are totally against you when gambling slot machines or sport betting.I know we live in the Internet era yet some persons rush and do not care but soon they realize their mistake.

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February 07, 2024, 09:30:15 AM
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It is also unlikely that you will win if you bet on sports betting but it is true that you will lose less money there. Yesterday my friend bet with $170 and initially he had a good winning story but later he lost $80 although his error rate was high here. I told him to hold off for some time and bet again later but he did so out of greed. Financially i am weak now so i refrain from gambling but all my close friends have taken to gambling. Someone is winning again and again which motivates me again.


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Gambling in sports is completely different from regular gambling. In sports, you must follow all the leagues in their small and large details. You must know all the teams and players, the number of goals and points...
He must have a deep study of everything.
Yes, I can give him a reasonable amount of money, but if he deserves trust,  everything is based on trust

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February 07, 2024, 05:34:21 PM
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A lot have been told here already, but when speaking about gambling, I would suggest to keep advices and intentions to help someone in yourself. If persons needs something, he will ask for help without hesitation. Today people can google and find everything, people so used to searching in the internet, so it is hard to find someone who asks others for suggestion. Lately, nothing radically new were invented in gambling, and I guess everyone is already familiar with everything. So today, if someone approaches with intention to teach something or advice, people look on that person with cautious.

Some people always need advice as people may rush to gambling without googling first or making a small research before gambling.If you see anyone of them it is let's say a moral duty to just advice such persons by telling risks associated with gambling and especially to such persons to tell the odds that are totally against you when gambling slot machines or sport betting.I know we live in the Internet era yet some persons rush and do not care but soon they realize their mistake.

I believe that one of the things that causes someone to be too hasty to get involved in gambling without being based on proper research and understanding of the world of gambling is because they see "money" as the object of victory in gambling, such people completely ignore the aspect of risk that can never be separated when they are involved in this activity so of course in the end something that is not based on proper understanding will make them feel really disappointed at the end of the session when they lose, this is one of the typical irresponsible gambling.

So of course anyone is advised  to help people who are down or lost on the wrong path at least by giving them a little advice that really looks reasonable which of course they can understand, because on the other hand it is very difficult for them to reach awareness when they have already entered the wrong path, so this is what makes them end up with addiction along with always increasing the number of defeats over time, especially if they are basically involved in types of gambling such as slots which do have algorithms that are very difficult to solve so that losses will usually dominate more often.

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February 07, 2024, 05:43:09 PM
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Gambling in sports is completely different from regular gambling. In sports, you must follow all the leagues in their small and large details. You must know all the teams and players, the number of goals and points...
He must have a deep study of everything.
Yes, I can give him a reasonable amount of money, but if he deserves trust,  everything is based on trust
I don't in sports betting you need to know about all the clubs or players to be a good sports bettor. Sports betting needs some level of knowledge but it is also highly determined by luck. Some sports bettors focus on some so they don't necessarily need to follow all the leagues.

Some people always need advice as people may rush to gambling without googling first or making a small research before gambling.If you see anyone of them it is let's say a moral duty to just advice such persons by telling risks associated with gambling and especially to such persons to tell the odds that are totally against you when gambling slot machines or sport betting.I know we live in the Internet era yet some persons rush and do not care but soon they realize their mistake.
The increase in viable information on the internet that could guide gamblers will not stop us from giving people advice. People will always need face-to-face or online counsel and we shouldn't hesitate to offer it to people that need assistance. 

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February 07, 2024, 05:44:51 PM
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A lot have been told here already, but when speaking about gambling, I would suggest to keep advices and intentions to help someone in yourself. If persons needs something, he will ask for help without hesitation. Today people can google and find everything, people so used to searching in the internet, so it is hard to find someone who asks others for suggestion. Lately, nothing radically new were invented in gambling, and I guess everyone is already familiar with everything. So today, if someone approaches with intention to teach something or advice, people look on that person with cautious.

Some people always need advice as people may rush to gambling without googling first or making a small research before gambling.If you see anyone of them it is let's say a moral duty to just advice such persons by telling risks associated with gambling and especially to such persons to tell the odds that are totally against you when gambling slot machines or sport betting.I know we live in the Internet era yet some persons rush and do not care but soon they realize their mistake.
I would say that it would really be better that it should be leaved up on this way on which it would really be just that right the you wont really be trying out to get involved into someones activity.
We dont know their background whether they are already knowledgeable to sports betting and just really that do love on playing slots. It isnt really that appealing for someone to be  that
dictated on what are the things that they should really be dealing on with. Some people do have that kind of sensitivity when it comes into someones actions been made out towards him/her.
There are ones who doesnt really love on getting that being touched by someone else, lucky for you if you do have been able to approach someone who doesnt really
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A few days ago, my house was being cleaned. Three people are cleaning the front and back yards of the house. One of them was playing slots and I saw him. Actually, I wanted to suggest he try sports betting because I often see the guy watching football matches and he does have knowledge about many teams. So I was wondering if I could introduce him to sports betting so he could use his ability to predict every game he knows about.

Besides that, I just feel that if he deposited $10 = IDR 150,000 into a gambling site just to play slots, he would probably suffer a complete loss. But if he can place bets on sports betting, there is a possibility of him winning some money on small bets. Wouldn't that be an advantage for him?

If you were in this situation, what would you do? Introduce him to sports betting or let him stick to playing slots. Yesterday, I just let it go but we still often meet at other activities.

You think he doesn't know anything about sports betting. Maybe he is attracted simply by the momentary pleasure he gets from slot machines. After all, in sports betting you have to wait for the result, even if it is a live bet.
Secondly, if I were you, I would not introduce him to such a pastime, because if he suffers large losses, then you will feel guilty. It's better not to give such advice, I think

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A lot have been told here already, but when speaking about gambling, I would suggest to keep advices and intentions to help someone in yourself. If persons needs something, he will ask for help without hesitation. Today people can google and find everything, people so used to searching in the internet, so it is hard to find someone who asks others for suggestion. Lately, nothing radically new were invented in gambling, and I guess everyone is already familiar with everything. So today, if someone approaches with intention to teach something or advice, people look on that person with cautious.

Some people always need advice as people may rush to gambling without googling first or making a small research before gambling.If you see anyone of them it is let's say a moral duty to just advice such persons by telling risks associated with gambling and especially to such persons to tell the odds that are totally against you when gambling slot machines or sport betting.I know we live in the Internet era yet some persons rush and do not care but soon they realize their mistake.

The fact that people rush to do things is a good point and good that you have reminded us it, but in current situation OP made question on, it wasnt about rushing. I can not believe, that person who gambles online never heard about sports betting, because casinos show default gambling and sports betting options on their index page, as well as there are always banners that offers promotions. Just one of the way how their conversation might go - when OP offers and introduces sports betting, that guy might ask how she/he found out he gambled. If OP says she/he spied it (how else could you explain that you say someone gambled on a mobile), that guy can take it negatively and wherever their conversation goes, it will already have a negative context.

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A few days ago, my house was being cleaned. Three people are cleaning the front and back yards of the house. One of them was playing slots and I saw him. Actually, I wanted to suggest he try sports betting because I often see the guy watching football matches and he does have knowledge about many teams. So I was wondering if I could introduce him to sports betting so he could use his ability to predict every game he knows about.

Besides that, I just feel that if he deposited $10 = IDR 150,000 into a gambling site just to play slots, he would probably suffer a complete loss. But if he can place bets on sports betting, there is a possibility of him winning some money on small bets. Wouldn't that be an advantage for him?

If you were in this situation, what would you do? Introduce him to sports betting or let him stick to playing slots. Yesterday, I just let it go but we still often meet at other activities.


Probably you letting the mice out of the bag will be of good help.he might possibly be interested if you eventually talk to him about sports betting,you know most people tend to hook up with what they know best and are good at doing it but introducing them to another means of achieving bigger wins will go a long way to putting smiles on their faces.

So I think when next you meet up,you can talk to him about it and making sure it's a detailed information your passing out to him that way he will be so astonished that something like that existed that he knows nothing about.

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February 08, 2024, 04:16:33 PM
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Both are fun and both are gambling. But each of them offers a different kind of experience and entertainment. I think some people are gambling for the sake of having something to do, to spend idle time. Sports betting does not offer this kind of thing. In sports betting all you have to do is place the bet and that's all. Everything's finished in seconds. Slots and other casino games can offer more than that. There are times when you have a lot of vacant time and you don't know what to do, you're bored, and you want to have fun. Playing slots is one good option in times like that.
Well, though you are right that a lot of people might gamble just to pass their time and spend their spare time on it, however, when we talk about sports betting, indeed, it cannot be used as a time killer but it isn't as simple as just placing the bet because unlike gambling games, sports betting requires research and analysis for every bet so that you don't lose your bets because sports betting isn't always dependent on luck like gambling games.

This is the reason why some people might not find sports betting fun because they can't cope with the requirements and if you can't do your homework well, you will probably lose money and it's not fun when you are not being entertained and also losing money in the process.

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Gambling in sports is completely different from regular gambling. In sports, you must follow all the leagues in their small and large details. You must know all the teams and players, the number of goals and points...
He must have a deep study of everything.
Yes, I can give him a reasonable amount of money, but if he deserves trust,  everything is based on trust
That's the problem. We think casino games are more profitable because they give out high multipliers in an instant, but what's next to it? Losses.
It's easy to say that sports gambling is more responsible than casino gambling because we are not playing against the house.
I am a sports enthusiast and also a casino gambler and I know the difference. I place bets for casinos a thousand times and yet I won't receive the amount that I want to receive.
While in sports, I can get it anytime I want and I won't have to guess what's coming up next. This is where it makes a difference. Analysis-wise, sports gambling has a prediction that is near winning it. In casinos, you don't know what will happen next. Everything is a guess and even if we make bets that are way beyond the max amount they can give, they will still not provide anything. RTP could sometimes be late and we have to live with it.

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February 08, 2024, 10:35:53 PM
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A few days ago, my house was being cleaned. Three people are cleaning the front and back yards of the house. One of them was playing slots and I saw him. Actually, I wanted to suggest he try sports betting because I often see the guy watching football matches and he does have knowledge about many teams. So I was wondering if I could introduce him to sports betting so he could use his ability to predict every game he knows about.

Besides that, I just feel that if he deposited $10 = IDR 150,000 into a gambling site just to play slots, he would probably suffer a complete loss. But if he can place bets on sports betting, there is a possibility of him winning some money on small bets. Wouldn't that be an advantage for him?

If you were in this situation, what would you do? Introduce him to sports betting or let him stick to playing slots. Yesterday, I just let it go but we still often meet at other activities.
I would honestly let him be. Like for some people it just makes sense to play slots because that is their comfort game and it's what basically gives them fun and enjoyment, and while it's good and okay to introduce a new game to that person, unless we're close I wouldn't really rub the option of choosing another game against him. Because as I said, this might've been his comfort game and no matter how much money he loses in these games as long as he takes care of himself it doesn't really matter. At the end of the day, it's all about making sure that you're having fun when you're gambling, and not the prospect of earning money in the process that really matter most.

I see your great intentions and honestly I would've been persuaded if I were the guy you're talking about, but at the same time some people may take it the other way and see you trying to introduce a new game to them as being nosy but whatever.
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February 09, 2024, 08:23:19 PM
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Well, we are people who always have to be very careful with our money, especially when it comes to playing in the slots, not all people are careful to play in the slots and see if they actually comply with the balance. willing to lose or something like that, it is very difficult to do it the first time, but it can be done, now I am one of the people who did not learn this at once, I learned this thanks to Trading, that same strategy is It is applied in trading and when I see that many things can be applied to gambling, especially in the issue of self-control, something that very few take into consideration, but it is very important.

Now when we see that these things can happen I always realize that things can be very determining if we do them in order, to be in such a situation we must do things in extreme order and only then can we have very good results, this is what we do. I know because I know that in trading things are like that, what you should not do in trading is to think like in gambling, but in gambling you cannot apply much of trading, but there are things about trading that were not considered. gambling, for example, making classes with analysis and ensuring that it is fulfilled because that is how the analysis that was carried out launched it, because that does not work in gambling, however it is always good to apply strategies.

And although many say that strategies don't work, you always have to consider that the best and best things are those that have strategies, I have always said that we are people who should use strategies for everything, they work for me, but I don't use just one , I use many and I do this so as not to Play in a flat way, that is what we are looking for, I will always Consider things that way, that is why we look for the best to do and the best to save our money .
That's what we have to do when playing gambling, whatever the gambling game and not just slot games. But we know that slot games can really make us lose a lot of money because there will be curiosity about the losses we experience, so we will continue playing slots. We don't think about how much money we have used, but we only think about how we can win some money from slot games, including getting big multipliers. It is difficult to get big wins from slot games, so we have to be careful in spending our money and not let us spend it all in one day.

We cannot compare gambling with trading, although if we trade without using analysis, it is almost the same as gambling. However, in trading, we can still make a profit if we keep holding the coin, provided that it is a coin that can potentially increase in the future, for example, bitcoin. But when we can't be careful and lose all the money, we can't recover that loss easily because our money has been lost at the gambling table, and it's really lost us money. But in gambling, we can analyze sports betting so that we can also win, but when we lose, it means we lose the money, too. And it's hard to recover from that loss.

As long as you are willing to learn about analytical skills, it is possible to improve them to help you find teams with a higher chance of winning than other teams. It can give you winnings to make money from sports betting. But we don't forget that we can't always win from sports betting because there will be something that can prevent us from winning, so we have to be able to accept defeat if we do lose.

Well, as far as I am concerned, I have always said that one can transfer some strategies that one has for gambling to trading, for example, betting with money prepared to lose, because that is what we should see, now yes We are looking for a way to do things well because we have to do everything possible to do better, I could think that sometimes other improvements could be made in the game, for example not tying everything at once, but betting with the money alone for the game at a given moment, now when it comes to doing other things, for example to avoid addictions from gambling to trading because I do not advise it, normally some people may be looking for a way to do the best to allocate the best in the gambling, when we consider making strategies, some like considering that trading is like gmabling, it is not the best, because you lose a lot of money that way.

I say this because I have several friends who trade as if it were gambling, and they tell me that yes, that's how they win, that they make bets and that's how they win, and of course they do contradict futures and they do it. So I don't tell them much because it's their money and I respect that, I don't get involved in those things because it's their money and they respect that a lot, because if they tell me that that's not my problem, well, with That stays with me, now when things are done like that, I don't know what to say, it's like betting a lot on luck, and for me trading is not gambling, for me, anyone who starts gambling doesn't do well, for me he Gambling is gambling, but when it comes to trading, I believe that things have to be done as they are, with knowledge, with everything that is done to have things clear, to me the things that happen with gambling are just luck. For me everything should be as it is.

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February 09, 2024, 09:14:11 PM
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A few days ago, my house was being cleaned. Three people are cleaning the front and back yards of the house. One of them was playing slots and I saw him. Actually, I wanted to suggest he try sports betting because I often see the guy watching football matches and he does have knowledge about many teams. So I was wondering if I could introduce him to sports betting so he could use his ability to predict every game he knows about.

Besides that, I just feel that if he deposited $10 = IDR 150,000 into a gambling site just to play slots, he would probably suffer a complete loss. But if he can place bets on sports betting, there is a possibility of him winning some money on small bets. Wouldn't that be an advantage for him?

If you were in this situation, what would you do? Introduce him to sports betting or let him stick to playing slots. Yesterday, I just let it go but we still often meet at other activities.
Two things.

1. Introduce other ways to enjoy gambling while earning more money in the process. In taking this path I would take an approach that wouldn't make me out to be the arrogant asshole that sticks his dick into everything, even those he doesn't have businesses with. It's quite easy really, just make him think that it's their idea in the first place, influence them into looking for other options. Eventually the guy will relent and will either stop playing slots/gambling overall, or would just outright find a different way to have fun that wouldn't involve him spending too much money with no real ROI in the process. Otherwise the other most desirable outcome is him ending up finding other games that he can play aside from slots.

2. Keep it to myself and just let him play his slots. He prolly got his shit taken care of and he doesn't need suggestions or people calling him out about his obsession with slots. He's most likely aware of it anyway and if he wanted to quit slots and play something else he would've, but as seen from the fact that he exclusively plays slots and nothing else (at least according to your story) there's a good chance that he's doing this not because he doesn't know how to play other games or whatever theory people's got going on about the guy, but the sole fact that he just loves slots that much and would've rather kept playing slots for as long as he's alive or at least until he hits a rock bottom of hedonic enjoyment.

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