Other Forum members are more civil than Legendary members, Why?

[BabyBandit]

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Why do you always have to bully others?

I don't know if you did joke or not with your question, but I will give you a honest thinking that often is the reason why people act like that on the internet:

People that often bully others on internet behind a monitor was often bullied themself as kids and are extremely insecure, unhappy and sad and depressed. (and get bullied sucks and I am against it to to 100%)
But instead to change their life to the better and work hard they take the easy and lazy way in lif and go online and spread the hate they have inside them on innocent people.
That's how it often is in cases like this. But we all knows about this right? "The loudest one in the room, is the weakest one in the room.”
But regarding "suchmoon" I got no idea. But one thing I am pretty sure of if we all would meet in real life the way people act here would not be the same they act IRL. That I can assure you.
Just ignore it and move on or join and stand behind it, it's up to you.  
But for every "hate/troll" this user say, they more it says about the user then any other user. So I just laugh at it because I know the real behind the behavior and I hope one day she/he realize the real way to happiness,
I was my self very low one time in life and on a journey to change, still got lows, but trying to be nice to others and my self. If you want a change in the world or life, you gotta start with yourself.
It's nothing cool to act tough anonymous it totally the opposite weak and nerdy and what I mean is: It's not about who you hang with it's about who you are and what your action is.
We all are the same same but different, nobody stay over anyone else.  
But anyway if it make him/her happy let it go. it's not like she/he have any success to be proud of in life anyway and I can assure you she/he got here struggles in life and bully people here maybe makes here a bit happier.  

Respect.




To OP @Funke

Maybe because they don't know how the forum works, the say what they think, they haven't choose "gang" yet? they have the guts to say what they think even if it's right or wrong.
Here if you say wrong or go against a a rep-group or a rep-member you could would end up with some lie's on your feedback wall and get your reputation destroyed just because you only shared your opinion.
REP-Members know that so they avoid it. New members don't. Could be a reason? And the one's giving feedback don't care because for them "neutral" is the same like say "Hey you are ugly" but what they missing is that many users listen to what they say even if it's true or not.

And many REP-members think they stand over all others because they got some irrelevant status but they missing a big point, life is bigger then this and its very sad because we all here share one thing the love of crypto and decentralized places so instead of argue who got the biggest penis we could go together as as a group and this forum would improve and be a strong community, as now it's just a sad place with some low exception's and I think 95% is here only to earn money and nothing else.
 
BUT! You can still find good information, good people and so on.
But as I said in beginning if you do something that a REP-member does not like they can easy destroy your account, and that is a kind of power nobody should have in the world wherever whatever it is.

That is my opinion.

Respect and Best regards
BabyBandit.

[Casdinyard]

Pretty heavy accusation to throw willy-nilly my friend. At the very least you could've provided receipts stating what you're claiming to be the case. I checked on your profile for posts where you got attacked by a Legendary member and I don't see any, so this is either some post you made up cause you see some of them being very vocal about their statements or you're just trying to stir up some trouble in this forum, either way I don't think it's fair to these people that you accuse them of something and you can't back up what you're trying to say.

Plus I don't think I have ever seen someone here scrutinize someone for their personal affiliation just yet, and even then if they did that would be grounds for account bans. Feels like you're just butthurt for those who got called out by legendaries for subpar content, or for what I think what you think is them being very harsh on lower ranking members when the truth of the matter is that they're just being very personalized with their way of conveying their thoughts. Either way not inherently bad for the forum all in all.

Thing is wherever you go there will be people who won't agree with your shit, let's just be real on that. It's how you react upon these people that would determine whether you're really cut for this forum or you want those echo chambers where they keep patting themselves on the back even though they knew with 1000% certainty they are doing the wrong thing.

[pinggoki]

Because some of them are more vocal with their opinions and can articulate what they want to say better than most of us and sometimes when multiple like that exists in an enclosed like this one, they'll eventually find some differences that they're going to disagree upon and are passionate about, best thing to do when this happens is that don't join the talk between these people unless your username is specifically mentioned by others then your all good, most of the time, those disagreements are within their circle of people anyway so you don't worry about them, you know kind of like being in prison, keep your head low and you'll keep that head from rolling and don't ask questions unless you're being asked to, that's it.

[BenCodie]

If you think that a member is acting out of line, simply make a comment on why you think so. If your comment is a well reasoned one, you will find that members who act appropriately may agree with you...in some cases.

The reason I say in some cases is because that there is a level of validity to your post. Some members have grown such a power in the forum where they can (and sometimes do) cross the line and get away with it, as others fear getting roped into drama, or in some cases, being persecuted, for speaking against powerful members. Unfortunately, you have two choices here. Go against the grain and speak up (which may cause potentially undeserved consequences), or move on (maybe reluctantly, but with less drama as a result).

[Pmalek]

I don't know if you did joke or not with your question...

It was a joke, of course. OP wrote that my post asking for examples of newbies being bullied by legendaries is a type of abuse going on on Bitcointalk. By asking suchmoon why she is such a bully (by not agreeing with OP), I wanted to show how ridiculous such claims are. She got the joke. It's best to lock this thread as it's not going anywhere and OP isn't serious about proving his allegations.   

[BabyBandit]

I don't know if you did joke or not with your question..

It was a joke, of course. OP wrote that my post asking for examples of newbies being bullied by legendaries is a type of abuse going on on Bitcointalk. By asking suchmoon why she is such a bully (by not agreeing with OP), I wanted to show how ridiculous such claims are. She got the joke. It's best to lock this thread as it's not going anywhere and OP isn't serious about proving his allegations.  

Ok, cool
But I haven't see any newbie get bullied by higher ranked users tho, but I have see that this user act very immature sometimes but that a different story and nothing I got power to speak about now.
But I explained what think could be a reason based on opinions nothing more.

Have a good evening mate.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

This forum is big enough for us to have peop of different characters, so expect to see more of this, but know that this forum is not meant for that, some may agree with our opinions and others may not, we cannot just forced some against their wish, but when a newbie makes mistakes, it's not a bad thing to be corrected and that is not bullying, when you're talking about being bullied, then discrimination has set in the which is not how we do here.

[Mrbluntzy]

I want to agree with what you are saying but I find it not totally accurate because I have seen both low position members who are bullying other ranks too. It's not just a custom that legendary rank bullies low rank every time without any cause, there are usually some repetitive mistakes by some fellow newbies which tempts the legendary make harsh comments.

It's not all the legendary rank on the forum that does what you are saying, most legendary are very civil too. You don't expect member on this forum to actually behave in the way that can only please you and displeas them or someone else. It's a free forum and anyone can say what ever they feel like.

[Smartvirus]

Do we agree that it is a feeling of pride that they have superior knowledge on issues than others because of their ranking?

I’ll put this in question format;
Will you be proud of yourself should you someday attain the Hero/Legendary rank on this forum? (Don’t need you to answer that out loud though, just to yourself)

Again, the idea that legendary or ranked users have got superior knowledge is false. You might refer that in contexts of the forum and even that could be wrong too. As, not so many users explore every aspect of the forum. Some users stick yo a niche and that’s how the knowledge on the forum is carved too.

They are most times emotional and personal in their contributions to issues of public concern.

Who else is noticing this attitude as a newbie or member?

Being personal and personal about contributions,,,
Well, haven’t been on the forum for sometime, you get so attached to the forum and wouldn’t like to see anyone ruin the quality of things here. That is no excuse for being any abusive or use offensive words towards anyone just because of their forum rank but, some users just don’t learn from others and having to repeat what have been treated so many times just pushes for a little outburst from those that can’t handle it.

Best thing to do, understand that the forum is global, the diversity in humans and see some of these for some criticism. Focus on what’s positive and grow thick skin.

[BabyBandit]

This forum is big enough for us to have peop of different characters, so expect to see more of this, but know that this forum is not meant for that, some may agree with our opinions and others may not, we cannot just forced some against their wish, but when a newbie makes mistakes, it's not a bad thing to be corrected and that is not bullying, when you're talking about being bullied, then discrimination has set in the which is not how we do here.

Nobody know what this forum is meant to be for, its for sure not meant to be for all the drama on the REP-board all "rep-members" is active in daily. but nobody complain abut that.
So I agree with you the forum is big enough for us to have peps with different characters and opinions if the boss group accept it of course =)
But you have right if a newbie make some mistake that is a mistake and not something someone THINK is a mistake, they should be guided the right way in a kind way, but how often does it happen? =)

Do we agree that it is a feeling of pride that they have superior knowledge on issues than others because of their ranking?

I’ll put this in question format;

Will you be proud of yourself should you someday attain the Hero/Legendary rank on this forum? (Don’t need you to answer that out loud though, just to yourself)
Again, the idea that legendary or ranked users have got superior knowledge is false. You might refer that in contexts of the forum and even that could be wrong too. As, not so many users explore every aspect of the forum.
100 Right.

Some users stick yo a niche and that’s how the knowledge on the forum is carved too.

They are most times emotional and personal in their contributions to issues of public concern.

Who else is noticing this attitude as a newbie or member?

Being personal and personal about contributions,,,
Well, haven’t been on the forum for sometime, you get so attached to the forum and wouldn’t like to see anyone ruin the quality of things here. That is no excuse for being any abusive or use offensive words towards anyone just because of their forum rank but, some users just don’t learn from others and having to repeat what have been treated so many times just pushes for a little outburst from those that can’t handle it.

Best thing to do, understand that the forum is global, the diversity in humans and see some of these for some criticism. Focus on what’s positive and grow thick skin.

Very good answer and deserves merits merits IMO tho I am broke on it and never get any !

And also, this reputable users is nothing special, it only shows that they been online here more then others, is that something to be proud of?
But just look how many of them how they behave in reputation board, like a immature nine year old hyena. And I am pretty sure why, the most people act like idiots on the internet no matter what its here, Facebook or Instagram because they take out something they don't dare to take out IRL feelings of course. M
aybe they got bullied as a kid? Or they hate their job? Or wish they had a job? Or whatever it can be.. it's not you that is the problem it's their life, in many of the cases. so just ignore them because we have good power on this forum that will help you and be kind to you anyway. The bad group are not needed and they can have their "online-fight-party" if they want so. as you said, the forum is global so I agree 100%.

And as I said OP "The loudest one in the room, is the weakest one in the room.” -
So don't care to much and have this in your head. This users would never ever dare to act like this if they was in front of you NEVER. And what does that makes them? IMO: Weak and nothing to take serious.


But now I am talking about the people that act like asses.
The most people does not act like this and is very friendly and respectful and they are the forum and they are our guidelines, the others is just clowns that you easy can ignore.  

They are most times emotional and personal in their contributions to issues of public concern.
Who else is noticing this attitude as a newbie or member?

I see it on every ranked member, they take things personal and that's not a forum problem that's a world problem, people take so much personal for zero reason.

Will you be proud of yourself should you someday attain the Hero/Legendary rank on this forum? (Don’t need you to answer that out loud though, just to yourself)
Again, the idea that legendary or ranked users have got superior knowledge is false. You might refer that in contexts of the forum and even that could be wrong too. As, not so many users explore every aspect of the forum.
Some users stick yo a niche and that’s how the knowledge on the forum is carved too.

TRUE. They answer like they know everything (at least in gambling & trading section) but that is IMO just scam because their answer is a pure lie and of course they do it to earn the small amount they get from a sign-camp, but that's fine the forum is global. but don't talk about things you know zero to little about when someone actually can listen to it!

Good luck to OP! But one thing I disagree with "Other Forum members are more civil than Legendary members, Why?" -Don't put everyone on a pedestal, you got amazing high ranked members here that is cool, friendly and a lot of knowledge, it just a small group that act like assholes, and that's work the same in the rest of the world. The most is good, but a few are bad. 

[Learn Bitcoin]

I know where you came from and I am sorry that I do not agree with you. You might have a different point of view, but don't expect everyone to agree with you. I saw the thread and the replies where you were discussing political things. If you care too much about how members behave, stay away from hitting discussion of be ready to accept criticism.

Some of my closest friends do not agree with me but I don't have to insult them. I don't want to impose my beliefs on them. If I try to impose my beliefs on them, surely they will act weird and I won't be surprised if they insult me. If you hurt someone's belief, do you expect them to talk with you nicely? It does not matter if they are some random newbie or what! they will act according to their feelings.

[Su-asa]

This and many more are examples of insults and bullying by legendary members to express their point which they feel is better than the points of newbies. I never wanted to remember them , that was why I kept the thread going to see whether others have had the same experience. The thread was actually created for legendary members to also see what others are saying about their behavior then have a change of approach to public discussions. I know I am newbie, I am ready to learn but no through insults and bullying. Thank you for requesting for proof.

So my request that you post some proof or give examples how you are being bullied hurt your feelings? And due to that horrible state you are in, you are not capable of providing anything? My terrible "bullying" of you came after you created this thread, remember? That means that you should have older examples of terrible insults of me and others like me against you. I hope I am not hurting your feelings by stating that.

I have told OP countless of times about his posting styles that are always off topics, that it's not making much sense to be writing things that are meant to be posted in your social media handles that will be seen as likely a mere post than post it here in the forum.

Although we are mates or the same level he (op) would likely not listen to my advise. Clearly he has no prove of insults or bullying but from some comments in his post he most have experienced some kind of aggressive advises that sounds hash but only in his perspective while the reasons for such response is because he reluctantly refused to change his posting styles or area of posting but its all to point him to the right direction but he doesn't see it that way.

One thing I always advise my fellow newbies is before posting or publishing any content in the forum you most first consider the core purpose of the forum which is Bitcoin discussion and then before you can diversify your content but let it not leave without a true purpose of the forum by doing that you tend to create more interesting contents than off topics.

Funke grow a thicker skin! Focus more on Bitcoin related stuffs and learn. Use this link https://learnmeabitcoin.com/ and learn more about Bitcoin so you can change your posting styles, it's all for your good mate don't take things personal. Life is too short to argue some kind of shit!

The OP of this thread is very dumb, my instincts tells me that he doesn't know or know his way around this place thats why he's creating an offt topic posts on a board where we were supposed to discuss on a serious discussion.
As long as you have been taking your time to tell the OP his errors and he's not making an attempt to take corrections you should just leave him for others on the DT to decide on what to do. As you are trying to correct the OP of his mistakes he's not making amends and that's disrespectful, so it is better to leave him, moreover looking at his profile I can see 1 neutral tag already. Unbelievable.

Straight to the OP, the reason why a legendary rank or any rank on this forum will bully or correct you is only when you are wrong and you can't say when one correct you you will not have to take correction, that's when bully comes in, one cam not bully yiu when you ate right.

[Jessie2121]

I have keenly noticed that, some members of the forum like the legendary members do not have good choice of words in expressing their thought , outside abusive choices of words or words that sounds like bullying.

The most abusive forum members as I have noticed are the legendary members. I noticed it in their replies to posts or contributions to posts.

Do we agree that it is a feeling of pride that they have superior knowledge on issues than others because of their ranking?

They are most times emotional and personal in their contributions to issues of public concern.

Who else is noticing this attitude as a newbie or member?

This is extremely funny Op, you think is only legendary member that does that? Even newbies do use abusive way of relating with other members, there's nothing like pride maybe a little of it, that's how some people are no matter where they find them self and some don't know how to use words that won't look like an insult. Even you can start using those insulting words on other members when you get to that legendary rank, sometimes not because of the rank but that's how you are, what you're replying to might trigger the rudeness in you. The thing is you can't change it and never you let it get to you. Haven't you seen a Sr Member using harsh words on a low ranked member? Something like that happened to me. Shit happens so let it slide. Don't forget that is not the rank that's making those post, is someone like you and you can't change someone who's rude.

[GiftedMAN]

Who else is noticing this attitude as a newbie or member?

Op throughout my days as a newbie till date I didn't get insulted or abused by any senior member or legendary member of the forum but often times a member can disagree with your opinion concerning a point you are trying to prove you guys can argue during the process and some misunderstanding can occur but your ability to control your emotions matters most during this time. The forum is not against anyone disagreeing with your opinion but it becomes an offense when there is threat to life by another member. You can also post the link showing where you think you were abused by a member I believe such person will be cautioned by the moderators.

[Saisher]

Do we agree that it is a feeling of pride that they have superior knowledge on issues than others because of their ranking?

They are most times emotional and personal in their contributions to issues of public concern.

Who else is noticing this attitude as a newbie or member?

If you notice there's an ignore button in case you've been hurt by what other members are saying against you, or better take it as constructive criticism as a way to improve and help you rank, make your motivating factor, there are also a lot of good legendary members it's just unfortunate you stumble on the members that you think is arrogant based on your standard.
You will eventually get used to it, and you will meet good members who help you out on your journey here in Bitcointalk, just do the right thing here and follow the forum rules.

[Maslate]

That is only on a newbie perspective like you. But if you are going to ask us, legendary members are just trying to go straight to the point so that newbies will learn quickly and get the main point directly without hitting around the bush. If that would mean being rude to the new members, then I must say you are not embracing what the forum is all about. Not all members are kind and soft spoken, and probably that’s what they really are, but we are not after with their personalities but their abilities to share the knowledge to the newbies. At the end of the day, we are gathered here to share and exchange relevant ideas, not to criticize one’s personality and rudeness.

[Churchillvv]

I want to agree with what you are saying but I find it not totally accurate because I have seen both low position members who are bullying other ranks too. It's not just a custom that legendary rank bullies low rank every time without any cause, there are usually some repetitive mistakes by some fellow newbies which tempts the legendary make harsh comments.

It's not all the legendary rank on the forum that does what you are saying, most legendary are very civil too. You don't expect member on this forum to actually behave in the way that can only please you and displeas them or someone else. It's a free forum and anyone can say what ever they feel like.

I would like to correct a misconception here which is the word bully, it's never supposed to be seen as bully but correction, I don't know why most people think that when they get corrected or they witness disagreement with their ideals that is a bully.

Most time some people are just pissed off on how low quality some statements are and hence correct such statement with high turn or disagree totally with the ideal and I don't see it as bully especially when it comes to high rank member speaking to a low rank member it's considered bully immediately.

How often do you guys see legendary members bully each other as speculated except in the reputation board where they all try to maintain their reputations hence misinterpreting each other's words, I have personally observed people like Pmalek and NotATether when they are corrected whether by newbie or high rank member they return such favour with merit and I believe that it's lack of merit that makes most newbies think they are being bullied.

I agree with the second paragraph of the comment it's just the simple truth.

[tread93]

I mean honestly some of the legendary folks probably do feel more important in a sense and maybe have that cocky or bully persona about them but a very small percentage of these which I have honestly seen my share of as well. I just laugh because it shows their true character an the inability to put a cap on your emotions and others emotions as well.

[Zigabel]

How people respond to questions most times has a lot to do with individuality and not their ranking most of the times so I don't really see a big deal out of that which you may be trying to make a deal off, there are other ranking members below legendary who also makes responds too the way they feel it's fine even if it spites you, some times these response are even correctional response because there are somethings that are expected of you to know without having to create a thread to inquire of them so when you bring up such, you should expect some kind of response that may not sit well with you and that's why newbies and always advised to do more of reading and studying how the forum works than jumping quickly to posting already.

If at any point you are sure of the information you are sharing but it's been down played upon or you feel like at any point you are been bullied, I'm sure there's a thread that address that and also tell you what to do if need be you take actions, make sure to go through important threads in beginners and help.

[Ratters]

Civility is subjective really.

You will get rude people everywhere, on anonymous forums and in real life, it depends on how YOU react to it.. With respect to opening post I don't see it as dependant on forum rank. I have seen people of lower ranks behave exceptionally badly here and conversely I have seen some of the higher ranks act admirably even under fire.

I think in all situations you have to take into consideration the amount of time people have been here, people who have been here a long time may come across as harsh or critical merely because they have had to endure the same mindless questions and posts and over time that can become grating for the best of us.

I think rather than debate behaviours that we personally find negative (use block) we should address the massive amount of opening statement posts that occur every day in the hunt for merit but actually serve no purpose in the grand scheme of our little sphere and mostly just point out the obvious (from other sources) which admittedly I personally find very annoying, although I would never go so far as to be outright rude. Sarcastic maybe but not rude!

Lets all play nice and just discuss our favourite topic without really worrying about about other peoples frankly irrelevant online personas.

Have a great day.