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January 24, 2024, 03:26:04 PM
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Hey everyone,

Ever wondered how Bitcoin is throwing a global party in the world of remittances? this digital disruptor is having on the traditional money transfer scene,just a chat about how Bitcoin is playing the international money game differently. Whether you're sending crypto across borders or just curious about the buzz, let's share our thoughts on the real-world impact it's not just changing currencies; it's changing lives. Anyone else experiencing the joys of Bitcoin remittances?

Cheers to the crypto curious,
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January 24, 2024, 03:48:13 PM
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BTC is great for payments, you can use it to make payments in a secure way and also privately, all you need is to have an address for receiving and sending BTC to any part of the world. However, tx fees is a problem right now, with high tx fees it is almost impossible to use BTC as a payment option due to the amount you will have to spend in fees, though if you are making payments of a huge amount, or cross-border payments, then BTC is a good option for that.

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January 24, 2024, 05:10:30 PM
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I have a clear mental image of it and can see it clearly. Bitcoin transactions are a fantastic medium for financial transactions. Yet, it must fork over a hefty sum in transaction fees. For those who insist on doing things properly, this is the price to pay. This is the proper way to do it, but even a large payment won't motivate you to do anything. The Bitcoin payment option is preferable if you're going to pay an extremely large sum. It is inevitable that life will change due to currency change, regardless of your current thoughts.
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January 24, 2024, 05:19:32 PM
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Hey everyone,

Ever wondered how Bitcoin is throwing a global party in the world of remittances? this digital disruptor is having on the traditional money transfer scene,just a chat about how Bitcoin is playing the international money game differently. Whether you're sending crypto across borders or just curious about the buzz, let's share our thoughts on the real-world impact it's not just changing currencies; it's changing lives. Anyone else experiencing the joys of Bitcoin remittances?

Cheers to the crypto curious,


That is one area where Bitcoin can outshine many other competitors. I won't say just Bitcoin, but any other crypto currency that has a stable value can do great in international transactions. I believe cryptos are indeed used for global remittances. Just not being used by the corporates but by the individuals. Only in this field, Bitcoins transaction confirmation time looks faster than the traditional banking system. But it is difficult to see an impact because Bitcoin is not recognised as a currency in many countries in the world. So you will never get a solid and reliable data to prove the impact.

But yes cryptocurrencies can surely disrupt the global remittance market with ease.

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January 24, 2024, 05:20:38 PM
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BTC is great for payments, you can use it to make payments in a secure way and also privately, all you need is to have an address for receiving and sending BTC to any part of the world. However, tx fees is a problem right now, with high tx fees it is almost impossible to use BTC as a payment option due to the amount you will have to spend in fees, though if you are making payments of a huge amount, or cross-border payments, then BTC is a good option for that.
This!

Its not bad on being optimistic about its utility on which it is really something that could make out those crossborder payments without any needing on touching 3rd party on which simply into its p2p transactions.
The only main issue on here on which if the network is clogged then fees is really that mainly affected on which you would really be paying up more than on what you could be able to pay up
with those money remitances on which this is the only problem that i could see on why it cant really be able to fully integrate.

Plus, we should really consider out that legal issues and regulations isnt something welcome on  every country on which it would really be just that normal that it cant
really be integrated or would really be accepted. This is why it wont really be that shocking that there would really be some sort of blockage or ban.
For now then just let it be on how it should be.  Wink

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January 24, 2024, 06:01:30 PM
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Only in this field, Bitcoins transaction confirmation time looks faster than the traditional banking system.
Most bank transfers are instantaneous, while BTC blocks are found ~ 10 minutes on average. The difference is that the banking system is centralized, and so sent funds can be confiscated by the bank and reversed back to the senders account, i.e. in cases of scam and suspicious transfers, but once a block in the BTC network has been mined, it becomes irreversible and immutable.

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January 24, 2024, 06:53:38 PM
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Hey everyone,

Ever wondered how Bitcoin is throwing a global party in the world of remittances? this digital disruptor is having on the traditional money transfer scene,just a chat about how Bitcoin is playing the international money game differently. Whether you're sending crypto across borders or just curious about the buzz, let's share our thoughts on the real-world impact it's not just changing currencies; it's changing lives. Anyone else experiencing the joys of Bitcoin remittances?

Cheers to the crypto curious,

Before the mempool began to be congested by ordinal inscriptions Bitcoin was seen as one of the cheapest means of transferring money internationally.  But this is no longer the case because transaction fees are now very expensive compared to traditional bank transactions.  I know some business owners who were relying solely on Bitcoin to buy goods from other countries including a nation that banned Bitcoin. Out of frustration because of these high tx fees, they are been forced to go back to bank transfers.

Most bank transfers are instantaneous, while BTC blocks are found ~ 10 minutes on average. The difference is that the banking system is centralized, and so sent funds can be confiscated by the bank and reversed back to the senders account, i.e. in cases of scam and suspicious transfers, but once a block in the BTC network has been mined, it becomes irreversible and immutable.
That's true, some bank transactions take a few seconds, however, the advantage Bitcoin still has is its decentralized nature that gives you full control over your funds which is a feature that banks lack. With Bitcoin, you can remain pseudonymous/anonymous which is important to many people. However, the adoption of Bitcoin as a currency is been slowed down by these high tx fees and I hope this issue will be solved in the future.

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January 24, 2024, 07:11:59 PM
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Using Bitcoin for payments is very enjoyable and very easy. The convenience that can be felt when using Bitcoin for payments is that there is no time limit that requires us to wait like bank services when the working time is over, then we have to make delivery the next day.

Between us and the second party we only need fast internet service and a Bitcoin address that can still be accessed.
Shipping costs are also cheap unless there are problems such as transaction delays caused by several reasons so the costs are a little expensive. That won't last long according to my experience in transacting with Bitcoin.

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January 24, 2024, 07:34:37 PM
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Bitcoin doesn't have a border, so it doesn't affect anything where you are sending money. I am not sure about remittance, but Bitcoin has an easy payment system where we can send and receive our funds easily. Lately, I am just afraid of high transaction fees. But the uses of Bitcoin need to be expanded so we can use it directly. Or for cashouts, Bitcoin should be like MFS. The goal of Bitcoin interrupting right now is due to unrealistic transaction fees, and most of us consider Bitcoin an investment asset.

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January 24, 2024, 07:41:43 PM
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It has played a lot for the remittance sector where many starts to just send Bitcoin to anyone in the world and they'll be the one to exchange it for themselves.

Whilst the most impactful thing that Bitcoin did isn't with the remittance but as an asset, a store of value that made its class and people more interested about it.

But with this use, this means that it's going to be used with its other features mainly for transfers. Although some problem that even the fees are also becoming highly volatile.  Grin
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January 24, 2024, 07:51:29 PM
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Anyone else experiencing the joys of Bitcoin remittances?

Enjoy Bitcoin remittances?

- Bitcoin transactions take a long time because the estimated wait for network confirmation is around 10 minutes, if the network is busy and transaction fees are too low it will take longer
- For transactions in small amounts, transaction fees look very expensive, especially a month ago the transaction fees were unreasonable
- There are still many countries that do not allow payments using bitcoin
- There are still many people who are not familiar with bitcoin
- etc

In general, at the moment I don't enjoy bitcoin Remittances because fiat still seems to be more effective, cheaper and instant delivery. The only advantage of bitcoin is that it is decentralized so that no party can freeze the bitcoins that we have in our own wallet


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January 24, 2024, 07:58:17 PM
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During Mempool congestions it is not the best Currency for payments any more in my opinion.  Love Bitcoin but this is the truth.  It is perfect for most of its use cases when the Mempool is alright.  Otherwise, it kind of sucks and becomes the Currency where only the Rich have a chance.

So Bitcoin is slightly becoming more and more a store of value instead.  You can move it once an year and not care much about Fees.  Consolidate when Fees are low enough and so on.  Remittances however are not the best use case for it unless you think about Transaction speed.  The other party can have their Bitcoin in their account in minutes.  But this is directly linked to Fees.  High fees, delayed inclusion of the Transaction in a Block.  Which defeats the purpose of using Bitcoin for quickness.

Otherwise there are other things to think about too.  For example volatility.  It is great when Bitcoin is in a Bull run but it becomes really annoying when you work your butt off for a full month, earn a thousand and by the time your relatives get to use the money it is worth 20 percent less already.

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Bitcoin transactions are still cheaper than most remittances between banks, especially if you're sending money across the borders of your country. I agree that you should rather use an altcoin if transacting frequently, though.

Most bank transfers are instantaneous, while BTC blocks are found ~ 10 minutes on average.
For the sake of the argument, bank transfers are instant if both people use the same bank. Try using two separate banks and see how much time it might take. Try again, but select a recipient from outside the borders of your country. It's more than 10 minutes. Remittances can take up to three with four days. Paypal transactions can even take months to finish.

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January 24, 2024, 09:07:21 PM
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I came from a country that has a lot of overseas workers hence why remittances is one of the biggest helping factor in our economy

I can definitely see bitcoin helping ease the high fees of international transactions however right now with the mempool extremely congested and its transaction fees incredibly high it is not yet the most attractive for a lot of people even though it is remarkably lesser than bank fees it would be better if the system gets better and bitcoin will have lesser transaction fees and faster transaction rates

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For the sake of the argument, bank transfers are instant if both people use the same bank. Try using two separate banks and see how much time it might take. Try again, but select a recipient from outside the borders of your country. It's more than 10 minutes. Remittances can take up to three with four days. Paypal transactions can even take months to finish.
One thing came up in my mind reading your post.  People from my country who work in foreign countries and send back thousands to Romania every month may have further delays because of Bank procedures.  Know Your Customer.  Anti Money Laundering if the Transaction is above a specific threshold, which I heard will be around 1000 Euro soon.  And so on.  They may ask to prove where the money comes from.

Receivers may find themselves under unnecessary problems too.  Due to Bank procedures, just like those who send.

But I think during high Mempool congestion Bitcoin Fees are just as much as Banks if not more?  Many people would withdraw from ATMs too out of lack of knowledge and convenience, which means you get a hefty Commission every time you withdraw.

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January 24, 2024, 09:50:25 PM
Last edit: January 24, 2024, 10:26:46 PM by BlackHatCoiner
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Know Your Customer.  Anti Money Laundering if the Transaction is above a specific threshold, which I heard will be around 1000 Euro soon.
This is precisely why it takes so much. The transaction has to pass through a lot of bureaucratic processes. This is why peer-to-peer cash is priceless.

But I think during high Mempool congestion Bitcoin Fees are just as much as Banks if not more?
Depends on a lot of things. How congested? Is the median fee less than a couple of dollars or has it skyrocketed to double digits? What's the amount transferred? If it is more than four three digits, I can barely find a period where it is less expensive with Bitcoin. If the amount is equivalent to the price of a meal, then a banking transaction will always be cheaper than an on-chain. How many inputs do you want to spend? That's the kind of questions that will determine the answer.

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January 24, 2024, 10:21:08 PM
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Hey everyone,

Ever wondered how Bitcoin is throwing a global party in the world of remittances? this digital disruptor is having on the traditional money transfer scene,just a chat about how Bitcoin is playing the international money game differently. Whether you're sending crypto across borders or just curious about the buzz, let's share our thoughts on the real-world impact it's not just changing currencies; it's changing lives. Anyone else experiencing the joys of Bitcoin remittances?

Cheers to the crypto curious,

Of course it's borderless, you can used it to transfer to anyone in the world, no middle man in between, as compare to banks that might take days to be received, although one issue right now is that the tx fees are going up and so maybe those who are sending are looking for other options like stable coins or some altcoins.

So for Bitcoin, this is a challenge that we have to face not just for remittances and cross border payments. But hopefully everything will be back to normal, (cost right now is about 26 sat/vB or $1.45)

As per this report:

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The global average cost of sending $200 remained high at 6.5 percent in the fourth quarter of 2020, more than double the Sustainable Development Goal target of 3 percent. Average remittance costs were the lowest in South Asia (4.9 percent), while Sub-Saharan Africa continued to have the highest average cost (8.2 percent). Supporting the remittance infrastructure and keeping remittances flowing includes efforts to lower fees.

https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2021/05/12/defying-predictions-remittance-flows-remain-strong-during-covid-19-crisis


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Bitcoin is the number one coin among other alt-coins in the cryptocurrency market, which many people prefer Bitcoin and is the best in the line of new person in the industry and can be easier to explain to new person in the cryptocurrency space and across the globe, in which global impact Bitcoin Remittance is a part of creating more awareness across the globe.
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The joy of Bitcoin will only be known by those who want to transfer money between countries that do not have bank agreements, or there is only Western Union with its high fees, and the slow procedures in transfers, but since the majority use Bitcoin as an investment, coinss are rarely withdrawn outside exchange, or there is rarely a real use of Bitcoin, and at best. In cases where you can buy digital gifts or a cup of coffee, you will find them skimping on fees and dealing with Bitcoin just like stocks.

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One of my first posts on this board was referring to precisely the great advantage of sending a TX versus a Swift or SEPA transfer, depending on the amount they vary but there are banks that have fixed rates for the sending bank, the one that receives and the intermediary bank, we can be on average at least $60 when making an international transfer.

That is why companies like Western Union have a great market rate, because they are cheaper and the times are 24 to 72 hours, while a bank transfer can take a week to 3 days.

This is bitcoin discussion, so no doubt, use bitcoin.

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