gambling for fun vs gambling for the financial benefit.

[Findingnemo]

What is mostly common in my neighborhood and that I mostly do is soccer betting and if I am not exaggerating, 90% of the people that do soccer betting do do because they want to win money.

They want to win the match is different from what they want to win the match to meet survival needs.

It is very common that we want to be successful in everything we do and the same happens in gambling too, when we bet on sports betting or even if we just be a fanatic of a team we just want them to win.

What is wrong, when you don't have a source of income and you have some money that time if you think that you can win a bet and keep on winning.

[knowngunman]

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?

The truth about this is, gambling is supposed to be seen as an entertainment and not a way to make a living but the financial benefits of it can not be overlooked. We have two categories of people in gambling with different mentality about the entire game. The first set of people are gambling with what they can afford to lose just to have the fun and the excitement of the game. They are not bothered whenever they lose their games and doesn't expect to transform their lives from the winning or making their survival depend on the winning.

The second set of people don't know fun exit in gambling as they are only focus on winning or winning alone. This category of people become frustrated and worried when they lost their game because they already put high hopes wining in order to make a transformation in their lives and sometimes, they gamble with what they can not afford to lose. To them, the only thing funny about gambling is only when they win forgetting the purpose is to have fun and enjoy the experience. Regardless of the category you belong to, the financial benefit of it make it more interesting because no one has ever returned their winning before. So, yes! We gamble for fun and to also have financial benefits attached to it.

[RockBell]

Both are very important to me, I enjoy gambling for fun but also hope that luck will come my way because as a gambler of course I also want to make a profit but that doesn't mean I don't accept it if I lose because I also enjoy gambling. For gamblers, they definitely want additional income to be able to supplement their financial needs, but gambling is just a game so we shouldn't expect to make a profit, but there's nothing wrong with occasionally winning and making a profit and the most important thing is that we think we can have fun in it gamble.

Both for me too I do it for the fun of it and also for the benefits it comes with which is the potential win. Gambling is all about luck and I know even people that will say they are not for the money but everybody's mind is always their and the best thing you can do is to aviod been an addict. Because people are money driven and are ready to go to any extent to win money. If you lose you must one way or the other accept your loss. Because you won't get your money back. And I don't see the reason why you will want to make gambling another means of income instead of going for a actually job. Instead of relying on gambling. Does that embarked on that journey did not end well for them.  So the best just play for fun and let it go and you will be free that way even from addiction.

[Pesona1]

As someone who has gambled, I can say that initially gambling was just for fun after being tired of working, apart from being fun at first, gambling often provided a little benefit to my finances, but gradually I felt like I was losing money and in the end it was no longer the fun I got from gambling but Destruction ,Currently slowly trying to leave gambling and trying to improve myself after all the effects of gambling have caused destruction in my family relationships, I have never calculated how much profit I can get from gambling but what is certain is that the losses I feel now are much greater than the profits and also limited to the pleasure of gambling, I think we can think about it logically if the pleasure of gambling is only for a moment and when the money we have runs out then the pleasure of the game is also over and in the end we also have to enjoy the pain after losing.
 I think the money we have and spending with the family will be more fun than spending it at the gambling table.

[Docnaster]

As someone who has gambled, I can say that initially gambling was just for fun after being tired of working, apart from being fun at first, gambling often provided a little benefit to my finances, but gradually I felt like I was losing money and in the end it was no longer the fun I got from gambling but Destruction ,Currently slowly trying to leave gambling and trying to improve myself after all the effects of gambling have caused destruction in my family relationships, I have never calculated how much profit I can get from gambling but what is certain is that the losses I feel now are much greater than the profits and also limited to the pleasure of gambling, I think we can think about it logically if the pleasure of gambling is only for a moment and when the money we have runs out then the pleasure of the game is also over and in the end we also have to enjoy the pain after losing.
 I think the money we have and spending with the family will be more fun than spending it at the gambling table.

I love the fact that you personally highlighted on the benefits you've gotten so far for gambling because of the financial benefits but I think I have a contrary experience and I'm going to share my experience in this topic now.
When I was first introduced to gambling, I had the mindset that I'm going to make a lot of money through gambling and it was because of that mindset that I was always engaging in gambling but what I experienced then was that I was always losing my money until I even become very addicted to gambling. Luckily for me, I was talked out of addiction by a friend, I left gambling after then but returned again after few years away from gambling. Since I started gambling again, I always have the mindset of gambling for fun and that have helped me to win more than I lose

[Dewi Aries]

Both are very important to me, I enjoy gambling for fun but also hope that luck will come my way because as a gambler of course I also want to make a profit but that doesn't mean I don't accept it if I lose because I also enjoy gambling. For gamblers, they definitely want additional income to be able to supplement their financial needs, but gambling is just a game so we shouldn't expect to make a profit, but there's nothing wrong with occasionally winning and making a profit and the most important thing is that we think we can have fun in it gamble.

Yes that's right, addressing and treating gambling as an activity for fun is indeed more advisable because with this then indirectly you will not expect too much victory because your main priority is entertainment and not victory, But we as gamblers who prefer to prioritize entertainment or fun does not mean we reject or do not want victory if we are lucky because after all everyone wants and needs money and when you come without expecting too much victory then indirectly when the winning situation comes you will be able to choose to cash it in to enjoy because someone who gambles without focusing too much on winning usually they will not act out of control such as applying greed when they are in a winning situation. On the other hand the danger in gambling is when you push too hard and put excessive expectations on winning because gambling is just a probability activity that only provides the "possibility" between winning or losing, so with us only focusing on fun then we will be able to avoid some out of control actions, on the other hand I see that you have a good understanding of gambling, keep it up.

[EarnOnVictor]

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?

None of the above. What I'm after is, to try always winning whenever after my session on that day.

Gambling for fun is pure crap. There are other things to make fun of without risking money. How come it's still fun even after losing much? Do these people who state gambling for fun is really having fun after that losing streak? Even if they are only putting money that they afford to lose, they don't realize how much money they are losing now while gambling for a long just to have fun.

Gambling to support financial means? That's also a crap. It's called gambling because we need something valuable to risk in exchange for good luck to hit that good big winning amount. How come it can support our financial means if everything is at risk? Forget about it.

Now that you mentioned that, it suddenly made me think and you have a point, but for me, gambling is just like a game that I play like online games and in all my games there is always money involved. I also buy skins for everything I play and in my one game if I'm not mistaken I spent $1526 in just one game. My point is if you enjoy what you do and it doesn't affect your life too much, just keep going. I also gamble, yes it's disappointing to lose but if it's your loss you can afford to lose and it's budgeted, that's okay. That's my mind set, whether you win or lose, you go to gambling to enjoy it, not to win a lot of money. I won often in every gamble I had, but winning a lot of money is a bonus.

Bro, it is not easy as you said it, losing money and still enjoying gambling is not so convenient if we would say that truth. People have the ability to risk more than one another and we often brace for the outcome better than each other. Imagine, you lost $1526 at a go? You have a huge mind even as you said it as if nothing happened, that can't sit down well if I were you as hard-earned money is not to be wasted easily like that. I've also lost some quite amounts too, but nothing has been so substantial at a go in my casino as yours, it might be much in accumulation, but certainly, I am not that careless to make it big in a bet. I make sure that I make it stretch better in time so that it will reduce the level of hurt per loss.

Sadly, I can't say the same in trading, it is in trading that I had lost more than that at a go, but still, it wasn't a good moment for me for weeks until I had the mind to let go. Talking about the fun part of gambling, it is so possible that we have fun in gambling but you can't be wagering a huge amount and want to have fun, unless you are very rich, just like those who are playing round table games, though it still pains some of them, yet they always have that fun among the circle of the rich guys. If not, I think that we should limit the amount we gamble with when it comes to the fun, but if it is the true risk of betting for the money you seek, why not risk huge? But no one should say they are seeking fun in gambling and still wagering with big money at a go, such will only cut their joy short unless the money was stolen.

[Accardo]

Both are very important to me, I enjoy gambling for fun but also hope that luck will come my way because as a gambler of course I also want to make a profit but that doesn't mean I don't accept it if I lose because I also enjoy gambling. For gamblers, they definitely want additional income to be able to supplement their financial needs, but gambling is just a game so we shouldn't expect to make a profit, but there's nothing wrong with occasionally winning and making a profit and the most important thing is that we think we can have fun in it gamble.

Yes that's right, addressing and treating gambling as an activity for fun is indeed more advisable because with this then indirectly you will not expect too much victory because your main priority is entertainment and not victory, But we as gamblers who prefer to prioritize entertainment or fun does not mean we reject or do not want victory if we are lucky because after all everyone wants and needs money and when you come without expecting too much victory then indirectly when the winning situation comes you will be able to choose to cash it in to enjoy because someone who gambles without focusing too much on winning usually they will not act out of control such as applying greed when they are in a winning situation. On the other hand the danger in gambling is when you push too hard and put excessive expectations on winning because gambling is just a probability activity that only provides the "possibility" between winning or losing, so with us only focusing on fun then we will be able to avoid some out of control actions, on the other hand I see that you have a good understanding of gambling, keep it up.

When looking for an additional income in gambling it puts the player one step behind any other player who doesn't think like this. The act of gambling requires focusing and minding our moves and actions. Hence when the point of gambling is mainly for profits the gambler wouldn't mind neglecting the strategies he had for gambling. Thereby risking his gambling experience and accumulating a bad experience off his gambling activities. It's not a competition. Players have multiple reasons why they take gambling as a competition, which include greed, extra income, and other gambler's wins. I think the casino uses the wins of others exposed on the board, as a means of attracting the attention of those gamblers who chase losses because of the wins of another player. The casino is also using strategies to get more money from the gambler; therefore, a gambler is expected to take his strategies seriously and forgo chasing losses. Timing is the best gambling technique.

[AakZaki]

There are two types of people who gambles. One does gambling for recreation and one does gambling in order to earn some extra money in hand. The first type of people are usually rich. For them money doesn’t matter at all. They just gamble for fun. On the other hand, needy people gambles by measuring all the risks. Now if you ask me, then I am an occasional gambler. I gamble when I am in need of money and that too I bet only in sports games to maximise my winnings.

Gambling and entertainment, that's what I do gambling to entertain me. Because there are some gambling games that make me come back refreshed and can think well. I'm not addicted but I don't gamble to make more money, because I'm not an expert. So I do leave a little money to gamble online, or bet with my friends on soccer matches. But I don't do this to the point of harming others or even harming myself. Because I heard a lot of news that people addicted to gambling are very bad for their lives.

[Lorence.xD]

There are two types of people who gambles. One does gambling for recreation and one does gambling in order to earn some extra money in hand. The first type of people are usually rich. For them money doesn’t matter at all. They just gamble for fun. On the other hand, needy people gambles by measuring all the risks. Now if you ask me, then I am an occasional gambler. I gamble when I am in need of money and that too I bet only in sports games to maximise my winnings.

Gambling and entertainment, that's what I do gambling to entertain me. Because there are some gambling games that make me come back refreshed and can think well. I'm not addicted but I don't gamble to make more money, because I'm not an expert. So I do leave a little money to gamble online, or bet with my friends on soccer matches. But I don't do this to the point of harming others or even harming myself. Because I heard a lot of news that people addicted to gambling are very bad for their lives.

I still believe that everyone is still gambling for financial benefit however it could vary from  the intensity of of one's urge. Maybe in your case it is now not your priority to be rich from this industry. But for sure there will still be that will and hunger to win and earn financial benefit perhaps to have money to gamble for the next day I guess, simply because you enjoy playing. It does make sense still right? Not to invalidate your point but just trying to elaborate it for other's understanding as well that you may still expect for financial  benefit while prioritizing entertainment. It just can't be; if you are really for entertainment alone you should have played pocket mobile poker game in your phone. Financial freedom and financial benefit could mean different depending on where finances will be used.

We just cannot remove financial benefit from gambling as an expected outcome, given that it is money being used in the first place on every bet.

Also, addiction will never be causing us anything good of course. It is already an unwanted state of mind so I guess it would be wrong to always refer into it as one of the expectancy of being a gambler 'coz not all gamblers in the first place are the same; there are those who are responsibly playing.

[STT]

Most people would say if you lose all the time it removes the fun aspect, there has to be some element of betting correctly and winning the bet.  I would argue the money or size of the money component is really not important compared to just winning and knowing your bet was correct.  On financial side of betting, this is about allocation in my view because if you can allocate your confidence levels correctly to best match your chances of being correct in your betting then you will gain on average.  The average game played is random and games cost and you will not gain, be ready for that its rare people know how to guess when they will win and bet more at those times; gambling should stay fun sized not a level of loss possible that ruins the whole bet idea for you.

[klidex]

Its not hypocritical everyone definitely wants to win to gain profits in gambling, but I have a different opinion and depending on the game I'm playing if I play slots I think of it as having fun I just enjoy every spin and don't really hope to win big but if by chance I getting a jackpot means that it is my luck and I immediately take it and don't try to spend it in just 1 game. But if I don't get anything when playing slots, it doesn't really matter because I have prepared my funds to have fun playing slots.

However, when I bet on sports, I really need a profit because I use skills and analyze it first before starting to bet and hope to make a profit, sometimes I win and sometimes I lose, but I can still control myself to accept all that. In sports betting, I don't always make a profit, so sometimes I also while enjoying it because the important thing is that I use money that I can afford to lose.

agreed. Even though there are people who gamble for fun, I'm sure deep down in their hearts there is a desire to win. Everyone who gambles definitely has the aim of wanting to get a profitable win. It is impossible for people to gamble with the idea of wanting to spend money or wanting to lose. It is impossible. Hoping to win at slot gambling is the same as hoping for the impossible, but no one knows what will happen in the future, because last night I won quite a big win at slot gambling, even though I wasn't playing seriously, but this might be what is called luck.

Yes, in any form of gambling, you will eventually win or lose, but in my opinion, losing dominates more than winning, because even though gambling requires skill, it only increases the chances of winning, but even so, luck cannot be separated, luck still has a role. That's good, we should gamble with money we can afford to lose.

Of course, everyone who decides to gamble will definitely hope to win in spite of the fun, because it is impossible for someone to gamble just wanting to lose, even so, we still can't expect much from gambling. Let's just say that if you are lucky you can definitely win, if you lose it means You are unlucky because gambling is a game of chance. We can't predict what slot games will happen in each round and if we are lucky we can get a jackpot like the one you got even though you don't take it too seriously indeed that's gambling. Sometimes if we are too ambitious to make a profit we always end up losing.

It is true that gambling losses dominate the game more often than wins, therefore we have to be more careful if we want to gamble so thats your finances remain stable because if you drag yourself too much into gambling it can lead you to bigger losses.

[michellee]

I've seen, and perhaps we all have, how readily the pleasure of the "win" compels many to chase losses into the abyss.
I speculate on the psychology behind it. Why play against our better judgment? Is it the adrenaline, escape, or enjoyment of the game? I believe we can be healthier and more sustainable if we focus on play rather than results. Instead of the balance sheet, define success by smiles per hour.

Let's not forget that gambling may bring people together, laugh, and even discover themselves when done right. We find a microcosm of life when we bet for enjoyment, understanding the risks but enjoying the game. Gambling as entertainment reminds us to enjoy the trip, not just the destination. Always gamble with fun and an open mind, buddies.

Getting a win is really fun, especially a big win. This makes many people continue to gamble to try to get bigger wins. They forget that their gambling winnings will not always come to them. It is an adrenaline rush, an escape, and enjoyment of the game and it all comes together in a gambling game.

Only people who are wise in dealing with gambling can see that gambling is about having fun for a while. Others will think about getting another win but it will be difficult for them. If we can focus on gambling and respond with a smile, we will see that gambling is indeed a tempting entertainment.

Gambling can give people everything, including laughter, sadness, frustration, and the joy of winning. But it all comes back to gambling just being fun. We can just enjoy the gambling game without having to try to win. Let victory come to us.

[Poker Player]

The thread starts from a false dilemma because an essential part of fun when gambling is betting with money, it is the possibility of winning, even if it is little. I don't know if anyone has tried it playing cards with friends. If you don't bet money it is more boring, but the moment you bet something, even if it is a low amount, it gets more exciting. The difference can also be seen for example in poker sites like Pokerstars in which in the play money tables people play everything without any consideration, and when you see the ones with money but in the lowest limit (NL2), the way of playing changes considerably.

[Pierre 2]

I think most people are seeing gambling as financial benefit. To be honest, if we go and ask young people that usually go out (or online) to bet on sports here, none of them would say its for fun. Many would repeat they wanna make their dinner free or they wanna hit couple thousand dollars to go on short holiday, some would say they would buy a gift to their mother and girlfriend. Its so hard to keep claiming gambling is only for fun in my opinion. More people think different.

[Litzki1990]

Gambling may give us temporary pleasure but the purpose of gambling is to make money. Gambling is an attractive game and those who gamble understand its appeal. Seeing the appeal of gambling, gamblers consider gambling as both a fun and a money-making site. I think that a gambler's purpose is not to have fun while gambling but his main purpose is to make money while gambling as well as having fun. If he was just playing for fun, he wouldn't be risking money at all. Gambling is a game where the result is in favor of winning money and if the result is against the whole money is lost, knowing this huge risk of money, gamblers gamble in the hope of profit. I enjoy gambling but above all I expect to make a profit.

[bakasabo]

Gambling may give us temporary pleasure but the purpose of gambling is to make money. Gambling is an attractive game and those who gamble understand its appeal. Seeing the appeal of gambling, gamblers consider gambling as both a fun and a money-making site. I think that a gambler's purpose is not to have fun while gambling but his main purpose is to make money while gambling as well as having fun. If he was just playing for fun, he wouldn't be risking money at all. Gambling is a game where the result is in favor of winning money and if the result is against the whole money is lost, knowing this huge risk of money, gamblers gamble in the hope of profit. I enjoy gambling but above all I expect to make a profit.

If you say that purpose of gambling is to make money, then why lots of people fail to do that, lose instead, but people keep on gambling? Does not make sense. Person will never do bad for himself, his brain will not allow that. People see others lose, know about addiction, now how much is lost and probably remember their negative experience, yet still gamble to make money? I still think gambling is mostly about entertaining, and a small % (statistical error) make money from it.

[deathcode]

Gambling may give us temporary pleasure but the purpose of gambling is to make money. Gambling is an attractive game and those who gamble understand its appeal. Seeing the appeal of gambling, gamblers consider gambling as both a fun and a money-making site. I think that a gambler's purpose is not to have fun while gambling but his main purpose is to make money while gambling as well as having fun. If he was just playing for fun, he wouldn't be risking money at all. Gambling is a game where the result is in favor of winning money and if the result is against the whole money is lost, knowing this huge risk of money, gamblers gamble in the hope of profit. I enjoy gambling but above all I expect to make a profit.

what you say is the current reality experienced by gamblers. but actually, gambling is a paid game. there is a gamble and winning is the reward you get. those who end up considering gambling to make money, mostly experience problems with their finances. Maybe it won't be a problem when gamblers hope to win, it's very natural in every game we hope to win. but we have to know the limits of gambling. Just like you play games, when you play too much there are bad effects that you will experience.

[Quidat]

Gambling may give us temporary pleasure but the purpose of gambling is to make money. Gambling is an attractive game and those who gamble understand its appeal. Seeing the appeal of gambling, gamblers consider gambling as both a fun and a money-making site. I think that a gambler's purpose is not to have fun while gambling but his main purpose is to make money while gambling as well as having fun. If he was just playing for fun, he wouldn't be risking money at all. Gambling is a game where the result is in favor of winning money and if the result is against the whole money is lost, knowing this huge risk of money, gamblers gamble in the hope of profit. I enjoy gambling but above all I expect to make a profit.

what you say is the current reality experienced by gamblers. but actually, gambling is a paid game. there is a gamble and winning is the reward you get. those who end up considering gambling to make money, mostly experience problems with their finances. Maybe it won't be a problem when gamblers hope to win, it's very natural in every game we hope to win. but we have to know the limits of gambling. Just like you play games, when you play too much there are bad effects that you will experience.

Actually it is really just that for fun and you should be thinking that you are paying for the fun that you are really that getting because if you are really that minding about on making it as a source of income or money then this is where shit things do happen .This is why it would really be that best that you should really be wary and be realistic on whatever decisions that you are really that making
towards gambling because if you are really that minding too much or being optimistic on being a winner then it will really give out that kind of probability that you might be ending up on being addicted to it.This is why we should really be that careful on whatever our intents on what we do have in mind. This is why it would be best that you should be mindful on the actions you are making.

[Stable090]

What is mostly common in my neighborhood and that I mostly do is soccer betting and if I am not exaggerating, 90% of the people that do soccer betting do do because they want to win money.

In my society, I can say that more than 90% of gamblers are gambling for the sake of financial benefits. If there are rules that you won’t be able to withdraw your winnings from gambling, you will discover that most people will stop gambling instantly, they will never go close to gambling again. Gambling is taken as a source of income in my community. That’s why addiction is increasing on a daily basis. People are involving themselves in crazy things just to make money to gamble, which is not making sense. If people are gambling for fun, then you won’t see people involving themselves in illegal things just because they want to gamble.