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January 31, 2024, 10:12:14 PM
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Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?
Personally I view gambling as fun in as much as I only gamble with the amount of money I can afford to lose and as a soccer fan it makes sense to me watching the game as well as placing bet on my favorite teams that are likely going to win having  in-depth knowledge on soccer and it's bettings makes gambling on it as fun especially when I accumulated many matches with reasonable odd while staking with small amount of money, though earning money from gambling also serves as alternative source of income for me, infact I read stories of some third world countries where there is high rate of youth unemployment thus those resorted to gambling to make ends met.

Those stories of gamblers in third world countries making ends meet could be myths, as gamblers all over the world hardly make a living through the game.

Gamblers making ends meet? That's more than a myth , it's a fantasy lol. Especially in 3rd world country, gambling here is designed to take away all your money. If you have not noticed, here in PH there are tons of social media influencers and vloggers who's been advertising several online casinos. These casinos are spending huge sum of money to advertise their website, they don't care about it anyway, because again, they are designed to take away the money of their clients.
I've heard a vlogger has a contract from one of that popular online casinos for almost a million pesos or around $18k. That's just one of the hundreds of a combination of popular og small time social media personalities.

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January 31, 2024, 10:39:59 PM
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I think we all bet on many things , some out of Necessity, but I just don't recommend it, because out of necessity things can go wrong and that's Something that I don't see as Being right , for me things When they're not about to do them well, you have to see the casino and the casino Games to have fun , those who play out of necessity I think they can have bad Experiences , it is not what is recommended, in particular I will always say that things can be Done Better when there is no type of event that is just for fun, only those who are in need Run out of money and do not Recommend it , it is Something that goes against what we are generating, so because of this, I could say that when we are looking for the way to play Winning is what you Wan t, but you have to be Careful not to spend all your money.

When I Play I always get in touch With the best Possible to do Things Better , if we look for more Ways to do things better, then let's take as an example that things can be generalized towards necessity , but it is not the idea , the one who plays Out of Necessity he is at Constant risk of losing everything, the game is not a sure way forward, that is how it should be seen.

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January 31, 2024, 10:51:46 PM
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I don't agree if gambling is equated with altcoin investment. because altcoins still have clear programs and good management. different from gambling which only relies on the luck factor.
Or is it possible that the altcoin investment you mean here is investing in memecoin?
When you talk about Altcoins, usually Bitcoin excluded and other included. The instability of most altcoins especially memecoins can be likened to gambling except you are a short term investor who takes profit in a very short period of time because these meme coins generate profit almost immediately and does same with losses

Except for a few most altcoins project are not firm enough to invest your full trust in them because they will at some point not move the way you may expected it. The instability associated with a few altcoins is the reason it's likened to gambling because some of the projects behind omw of these coins are not solid enough and can at anytime end without prior notice and that's almost exactly how it is with gambling too it may not be really wrong to see investing in Altcoins as gambling because it's only gambling that really does shuch short time with investment and profit is seen almost immediately.

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February 01, 2024, 05:09:15 AM
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We should take gambling as a partime rather than a career. If a person starts gambling to earn money from gambling, it is not right because gambling can never help to earn enough money to run a family. There are some people I think they are big fools thinking of running a family by gambling money. Gambling will sometimes result in loss and sometimes gain. No one can understand when it will be profit and when it will be loss and no one can guarantee it.
Even when we read the news or see someone who becomes rich from gambling it's not because he makes gambling as his job but it's just a coincidence and he has a job that can fund his gambling so he can end up winning a big prize or something else.
Gamblers will only be able to get rich from gambling or make it a job when they are a casino owner or a streamer because they can make money, but as a regular gambler and making it their main income seems impossible because there is no guaranteed win in gambling even when you bet at odds of 1.01 the chance of losing is still there, so only people who don't understand how gambling works or who are too tempted by posts of gamblers who make big profits will think about making gambling a job and income.
And I always consider gambling only as fun if I can get benefits because winning big enough is only a rare event because everything will be proportional to what we dare to bet because it is impossible with just $10 and betting $ 0.1 and then you can get hundreds of thousands of dollars because more casinos will go bankrupt than new ones.

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February 01, 2024, 06:11:27 AM
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I have read a lot of thread on this board talking about the need to gamble responsibly and suggesting that gambling is meant to be done for fun and not to be seen as a means of livelihood. While this is theoretically alright, in the reality so many persons actually gamble because they want to get some financial top up from the gamble.

What is mostly common in my neighborhood and that I mostly do is soccer betting and if I am not exaggerating, 90% of the people that do soccer betting do do because they want to win money.

They can watch the match for fun but as long as it involved them paying money before gambling, most persons don't normally see it as fun and this is the reason why after placing a particular bet, if the game isn't successful they continue betting hoping to get a win along the way thervy being seen as addict.

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?

          -   As for me, when I play gambling, it's really just for fun and for no other reason. Even though I deposit money, it's fine because I control the limit of the money I enter a casino with. This is the only beauty of what I do because I am used to this habit. And she's actually pretty.

Now, I can't deny that sometimes I also win, and when I win at least $20 or more, apart from the amount of money I play in the casino, I stop, and it's that simple. I'm doing.

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February 01, 2024, 06:40:04 AM
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I have read a lot of thread on this board talking about the need to gamble responsibly and suggesting that gambling is meant to be done for fun and not to be seen as a means of livelihood. While this is theoretically alright, in the reality so many persons actually gamble because they want to get some financial top up from the gamble.

What is mostly common in my neighborhood and that I mostly do is soccer betting and if I am not exaggerating, 90% of the people that do soccer betting do do because they want to win money.

They can watch the match for fun but as long as it involved them paying money before gambling, most persons don't normally see it as fun and this is the reason why after placing a particular bet, if the game isn't successful they continue betting hoping to get a win along the way thervy being seen as addict.

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?

          -   As for me, when I play gambling, it's really just for fun and for no other reason. Even though I deposit money, it's fine because I control the limit of the money I enter a casino with. This is the only beauty of what I do because I am used to this habit. And she's actually pretty.
You are treating gambling only as fun which could not divert you. But among the gamblers there are some gamblers who are fans at the beginning but after a while they find opportunities to earn money from gambling. They are highly motivated in their efforts to increase their income from gambling. Although some think that all gamblers gamble to win, there is no way to get entertainment from gambling without spending money. Having money can make fun out of gambling. I think money is the most important thing in this platform. Gambling is enjoyed by those who take gambling as fun by spending money.

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February 01, 2024, 06:54:44 AM
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We know, we also say that gambling is only for fun it's right. But in the end most of the gamblers I assume they do gamble for financial benefits. Once someone gambles for financial benefits and depends on gambling win/lose to livelihood means he is gambling-addicted.
I can't truly just accept the fact that gambling is actually for fun, we lose our money when gambling so meaning we just enjoy wasting our money even if we have nothing to do with it. On the other hand, anyone who actually does it as a means of earning financially to be able to meet up with cost of living is actually becoming an addict.
Gambling is more like investing in some Altcoins, if it happens to give profits fine and if it doesn't also good but we don't also say we rely on our Altcoins investment to carryout expenses on our cost of living.
I don't agree if gambling is equated with altcoin investment. because altcoins still have clear programs and good management. different from gambling which only relies on the luck factor.
Or is it possible that the altcoin investment you mean here is investing in memecoin?
Altcoin investment and gambling are two different things but they're just too similar in comparison, note not all altcoins but if you're talking about newly tokens or project, investors who invest in those tokens don't know what the end result will look like likewise gambling cause when we place a bet we don't have the full assurance of winning the game.
A lot of investors view altcoin investment as gambling cause the act most investors carry out with some random coins shows that they invest and when the time comes they sell for profit, just like something you invest in for a little time and expect your money to double during that period of time. This act makes people to call Altcoin investment as gambling act.
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February 01, 2024, 07:02:27 AM
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Gambling is more like investing in some Altcoins, if it happens to give profits fine and if it doesn't also good but we don't also say we rely on our Altcoins investment to carryout expenses on our cost of living.
I don't agree if gambling is equated with altcoin investment. because altcoins still have clear programs and good management. different from gambling which only relies on the luck factor.
Or is it possible that the altcoin investment you mean here is investing in memecoin?

I think what that means is that altcoins performance is not predetermined maybe like bitcoin that is expected to rise anytime halving is around and the rise of altcoins has to follow suit if at all because some are shit coins so it is that rate of shitcoins that gambling is compared with altcoins. Memecoins are not to be relied on actually like gambling is not to be relied on so when investing on it you have to take the risk you can bear and gamble as you can bear also.

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          -   As for me, when I play gambling, it's really just for fun and for no other reason. Even though I deposit money, it's fine because I control the limit of the money I enter a casino with. This is the only beauty of what I do because I am used to this habit. And she's actually pretty.

Gambling for fun and having control is a way to feel the beauty of gambling. If gambling is for fun then it will be difficult to run into gambling-related troubles as is the case for most gamblers who have continually gambled to make money. This hope stems from the fact that people are making money from it and they believe in the fantasy without understanding that though gambling will not kill you, if you lack control you will end up killing yourself.

So, it is important to have control regardless of your reason to gamble. Even if you gamble for fun you still need control in order not to be carried away because of so much pleasure and then gamble above limit. This is important because whether we gamble for fun or for money, we are making a stake and we are losing the stake. Thus, gamblers should be guided.

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I'm just trying to make an estimation of the People that gamble solely for the fun and I think it doesn't even equate the number of  people that have their full interest on the winnings alone..
For me the estimation is around 100% of people that gamble have a full interest on winnings alone, I mean despite all the pretentious saying that it's for fun, I don't believe that anyone's gambling solely for fun even if they say so, the allure of money is just too strong that we should ignore it anyway but I wouldn't say that they're all for profit but that's different when it comes to wins, that's your goal when you gamble after all, to win and take home the prize money that so many coveted.



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February 01, 2024, 07:58:19 AM
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I'm just trying to make an estimation of the People that gamble solely for the fun and I think it doesn't even equate the number of  people that have their full interest on the winnings alone..
For me the estimation is around 100% of people that gamble have a full interest on winnings alone, I mean despite all the pretentious saying that it's for fun, I don't believe that anyone's gambling solely for fun even if they say so, the allure of money is just too strong that we should ignore it anyway but I wouldn't say that they're all for profit but that's different when it comes to wins, that's your goal when you gamble after all, to win and take home the prize money that so many coveted.
What you ask people that alway lament that gambling is for fun is that if gambling is for fun why do they get pist off whenever they lose gambling, secondly why do they always complain whenever they lose money in gambling, so it's good for someone to know and also understand that gambling the interest of anyone who comes to gambling is money and they ate desperate to win in gambling is not as if they are gambling because of fun, nobody that have money and try to waste it, if you want to waste your money and same time catch fun you can go to a street and share the money you waste in gambling and also catch fun with street people.

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February 01, 2024, 08:12:10 AM
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I'm just trying to make an estimation of the People that gamble solely for the fun and I think it doesn't even equate the number of  people that have their full interest on the winnings alone..
For me the estimation is around 100% of people that gamble have a full interest on winnings alone, I mean despite all the pretentious saying that it's for fun, I don't believe that anyone's gambling solely for fun even if they say so, the allure of money is just too strong that we should ignore it anyway but I wouldn't say that they're all for profit but that's different when it comes to wins, that's your goal when you gamble after all, to win and take home the prize money that so many coveted.

Because that's how they actually work to gamble and win no people would like to lose since its pissed them off especially if they are having a bad day. This is why I sometimes think about why does people say they gamble just for fun while actually I don't find it entertaining nor funny when we encounter those heavy losing streak. We could flip out our keyboard if that scenario came out of frustration for what we are experiencing at the moment.

Maybe there are some small number of people here really gamble just to have fun since they find a great community where they always feel entertained while playing that's why we can see a lot of people saying that they gamble just to have fun and we can see if they are sincere thru the words they have posted especially if they don't really care about the result and post the experience they usually encounter on the casino.

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Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?
Personally I view gambling as fun in as much as I only gamble with the amount of money I can afford to lose and as a soccer fan it makes sense to me watching the game as well as placing bet on my favorite teams that are likely going to win having  in-depth knowledge on soccer and it's bettings makes gambling on it as fun especially when I accumulated many matches with reasonable odd while staking with small amount of money, though earning money from gambling also serves as alternative source of income for me, infact I read stories of some third world countries where there is high rate of youth unemployment thus those resorted to gambling to make ends met.

Those stories of gamblers in third world countries making ends meet could be myths, as gamblers all over the world hardly make a living through the game.

Gamblers making ends meet? That's more than a myth , it's a fantasy lol. Especially in 3rd world country, gambling here is designed to take away all your money. If you have not noticed, here in PH there are tons of social media influencers and vloggers who's been advertising several online casinos. These casinos are spending huge sum of money to advertise their website, they don't care about it anyway, because again, they are designed to take away the money of their clients.
I've heard a vlogger has a contract from one of that popular online casinos for almost a million pesos or around $18k. That's just one of the hundreds of a combination of popular og small time social media personalities.
Gambling should really be just that for fun and not for making money because if you do find out yourself that being too greedy with gambling and do really play into that certain extent then
you are really just that putting yourself into possible addiction on which this is something that isnt really that recommended at all. Gambling should really be that for fun and not for making money.
Financial benefit or being profitable would really be just that a bonus since not all people would really be that lucky when it comes gambling on which there would really be those individual
who would really be having those kind of approach and there are those people who are really just that playing for fun on which those are those people who dont get easily addicted.

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February 01, 2024, 04:13:32 PM
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gambling for fun, if you think about it, it seems like there are many other things that are just as fun but without having to spend money and don't have big risks like gambling Even though it's everyone's choice, yes, there are people who gamble with the aim of having fun I don't know what the fun is,  but what is certain is that the fun is in the winnings they get from gambling, but the other side of gambling is only a possibility The amount refers to the loss, so it is impossible for them to be happy when they lose at gambling.

gambling for financial gain, in my opinion this should not be done, because gambling itself will not always bring profitable winnings and therefore profits will not always be obtained consistently,  because in gambling there is such a thing as a host, well while the host has The advantage of always getting a win cannot be avoided or eliminated, so if we are only player-based, in my opinion we won't be able to get stable profits.
Because gambling does not provide permanent profits, people think of gambling as something to have fun and of course people who think like that are because they are not addicted and are better able to control the gambling they do. Indeed, there are many other things that can bring pleasure to people without having to spend money and gambling is not the only one that we know, no one likes losing money, including when they gamble or appear in any activity.

Everyone considers gambling to be luck and there is no way to make consistent profits, so any decision you make to gamble should be much more responsible. The aim is for someone to be more open in facing the risks generated by gambling itself because gambling is actually an activity or activities that can destroy everything if you are not responsible.

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February 01, 2024, 04:21:23 PM
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Because gambling does not provide permanent profits, people think of gambling as something to have fun and of course people who think like that are because they are not addicted and are better able to control the gambling they do. Indeed, there are many other things that can bring pleasure to people without having to spend money and gambling is not the only one that we know, no one likes losing money, including when they gamble or appear in any activity.

Everyone considers gambling to be luck and there is no way to make consistent profits, so any decision you make to gamble should be much more responsible. The aim is for someone to be more open in facing the risks generated by gambling itself because gambling is actually an activity or activities that can destroy everything if you are not responsible.
and if something bad happens to an irresponsible gambler, who does the gambler or the gambling site blame?
If addiction and responsible gambling can be controlled by everyone, perhaps not many gamblers end up getting worse due to irresponsible gambling activities.
most gamblers will probably have fun when they win at gambling. but on the contrary, more gamblers will not feel satisfied when they are losing. maybe we should be realistic, more gamblers don't think gambling games are not just for fun. most are oriented towards making a profit from gambling.

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February 01, 2024, 04:36:01 PM
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I'm just trying to make an estimation of the People that gamble solely for the fun and I think it doesn't even equate the number of  people that have their full interest on the winnings alone..
For me the estimation is around 100% of people that gamble have a full interest on winnings alone, I mean despite all the pretentious saying that it's for fun, I don't believe that anyone's gambling solely for fun even if they say so, the allure of money is just too strong that we should ignore it anyway but I wouldn't say that they're all for profit but that's different when it comes to wins, that's your goal when you gamble after all, to win and take home the prize money that so many coveted.
Some people can use gambling as a way to have fun and enjoy their free time and will immediately stop their gambling activities when their time is almost up. They will not continue their gambling activities because they still have other things to do, and they realize that they only need to use gambling as a way to get pleasure. They will not be tempted by gambling, causing them to continue gambling, especially just to chase wins. They know that if they continue gambling, they will only experience bigger losses than they imagined, so they will always try to prevent that from happening.

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February 01, 2024, 05:17:31 PM
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The aim is for someone to be more open in facing the risks generated by gambling itself because gambling is actually an activity or activities that can destroy everything if you are not responsible.

But for a gambler to become responsible, they need to be destroyed first. What I mean is, mentally.

Under any circumstances, if a gambler suffers the worst defeat and huge losses in their gambling activity, the challenge to get back to their usual mentality will be hard. If that gambler were able to survive all the problems, difficulties, and challenges, that would make them a responsible gambler the next time they will push again to attempt a big win doing gambling.
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February 01, 2024, 05:21:18 PM
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Gambling is never for fun only no matter where the money comes from.I know of many people who say they gamble for fun but deep down that is a lie which I also say to myself to continue gambling.If all people who said they are gambling for fun they would be using the play for fun feature and not with real money,so let's not lie to ourselves,we only play to win more money.

I agree with that, maybe it's just an alibi, because when they gamble it means that what they really want is a win that can be obtained because in my opinion that is a value that can make us happy, because it's impossible for them to lose but they are happy, that's really not makes sense, except with responsible gambling it makes sense. When they gamble, it means they want to win, winning is the most important thing on every gambler's mind.

If you think about it, there are many other things you can do to get pleasure, some of which don't require money and are not as risky as gambling, because gambling is something that carries a big risk if it is done improperly or excessively. However, if someone experiences problems with their finances and takes steps to gamble, it is wrong, because gambling does not guarantee that they can solve their financial problems.
It could either be an excuse or a genuine reason. Let me ask you this, when you gamble and win some bets, do you feel happy and enjoy the game? That's what most gamblers seek, the excitement of every win, even though they might end up losing. It's not an excuse, but rather the fact that casinos have an advantage, and it's not easy to win against them.

I think all gamblers will feel pleasure when they win, because that is what they are looking for, it is impossible for anyone to gamble with the aim of losing or wanting their money to be lost, of course they definitely want to win and with that win they will feel a sensation of pleasure. there is no joy behind losing at gambling. Also I think winning is the main point that every gambler is looking for, even though they gamble for fun that doesn't mean they don't want to win, of course they also definitely want the wins that can be obtained in gambling.

The fact about casinos having an advantage is true, because they also carry out gambling with the aim of generating profits from many people. So they won't just give a win to all gamblers, it feels like they will only get lots of losses and not wins, because the chance of winning is slimmer than losing. that's what they have to remember.

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February 01, 2024, 05:25:48 PM
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It depends on how you accept and use gambling. Gambling is used by many as a source of income and they feel that it will give them financial benefits and grow financially. Others use gambling only for fun. I am more in favor of using it as fun because it gives you control over yourself and makes gambling enjoyable and avoids major losses.

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I provided some of the topic but there’s a lot more the cover already this kind of discussion that will result to same opinion by other people regarding this matter. This topic has no exact answer because it varies on people preferences. We don’t give a fuck about others opinion about gambling.
Good catch man. Similar topics have been posted here many times so creating the same topic over and over again is stupid and shows that the op doesn't monitor the environment of this forum very much so he doesn't know the updates.

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The aim is for someone to be more open in facing the risks generated by gambling itself because gambling is actually an activity or activities that can destroy everything if you are not responsible.

But for a gambler to become responsible, they need to be destroyed first. What I mean is, mentally.

Under any circumstances, if a gambler suffers the worst defeat and huge losses in their gambling activity, the challenge to get back to their usual mentality will be hard. If that gambler were able to survive all the problems, difficulties, and challenges, that would make them a responsible gambler the next time they will push again to attempt a big win doing gambling.

Yeah, I think that's how it works. To learn how to gamble responsibly a person must lose several times a fairly large amount of money. Only this will allow you to stop, think, analyze your actions and begin to use risk management, deposit limitation and other useful techniques that will not only not lose large amounts of money, but also not to become a gambling addict.

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