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January 28, 2024, 04:12:53 PM
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It is important not to store any sensitive information about you or your family on your phone because of several reasons.
If somehow your phone got stolen, your entire data might be compromised and get leaked. You might be blackmailed because of the sensitive data.
Your phone can get hacked and your bank information or password gets stolen and you end up losing your money.
I believe that your family pictures should not be stored on your phone. Click pictures and shift them to your laptop or portable drive. 

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January 28, 2024, 04:20:02 PM
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You are right but God forbid, what happens if their is a fire outbreak where this jotter or dairy is been kept. I think keeping it in a personal mail is more secured and safer.

I think this should be the best in my opinion:

👉👉Creat a personal mail.
👉👉Save any documents you want.
👉👉Memorize the mail and it's password
👉👉Log out the mail from phone
👉👉You can as write the email and it's password in a personal jotter or dairy(optional, just as a plan B for people that forget things easily)
That's a wrong advice. Gmail is not safe, Google has been hacked in the past. One thing about these hacks is that most of these big corporations will sweep it under the carpet, they will downplay it and not tell the public the extent of the damage. They'll only tell you what you need to hear. So whatever you do, don't store your seed phrase or private keys electronically (for example gmail, cloud services, mobile or computer devices).

If you're afraid of fire outbreak, make multiple backups in different locations or engrave your seed phrase on a metallic steel plate.

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January 30, 2024, 04:11:43 AM
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This is a big mistake of us especially those who are involved in crypto currency. It is not a problem if the device we use is destroyed, but if someone else can take access to the device we use or if our device is ever stolen or lost, then a third person can easily find out our important information and passwords. If they get to know the passwords of our various accounts, there is no chance of getting those accounts back. Suppose I have an exchange account and have enough money in that account and have forgotten the password of that account and saved that time if my phone is lost and someone else wants to steal my personal information by getting that phone but can easily steal my personal information. This way he can easily transfer all the money from my exchange so we need to be very careful about this.

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January 30, 2024, 05:58:40 AM
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I would suggest that we save all our important information in writing in our jotter or dairy, because a written than words is always longer than the memory.
this is basic security 105 that I think everyone that's in the industry have known.

It's not a new thing anymore that their is nothing like privacy as long as it concerns the the information that is one your device. Even the ones you have deleted can be restored back to your device and used back later and that is one of the reasons why we should be careful on the kind of information we keep in out phone or device. and it's not just out password or seed phrase, any information that could possibly harm us or become a threat to us shouldn't be stored on our mobile device.

Some people are even too find of taken a screenshot of a valuable information because they are lazy to copying it down. The drill you should give yourself should be that it's not something you would want an outsider to get access to, do yourself the favour of no leaving it in your phone at all.

When it comes to our effective existence in this industry, our security is our number one priority and so it's very important that we keep reminding ourselves these basic security checks so our carelessness doesn't bring all our holding down for nothing.

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January 30, 2024, 08:51:58 AM
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It's really wrong to save vital information on your phone such as;
 * Login password on your browser or on your mobile apps: have you ever imagined if your phone got stolen or lost and it fell into the wrong hands, and how disastrous it might be to you? It's a very wrong move which should be avoided by all cost

* saving your Secret phase on your phone: if you are ever concerned about your on security, then this one should be avoided by all means, because it's just like when you save you login banking details on your phone, in such senario, if your phone is being compromised and it fell into the wrong hand, then you will surely pay dearly for your actions.

I would suggest that we save all our important information in writing in our jotter or dairy, because a written than words is always longer than the memory.

Anything has risk wherever you store your vital information and what's important there on how you take care of your these important tools to make your accounts safe.

I know saving it on your phone is risky but still it depends on how you handle your gadgets since if you are aware with any risk involve for sure you can still be safe even if you always decide to hide your important details on that gadgets.

But for more secure place much really better if we save it offline and hide it on locked spaced where we think safe for us to store in our house since for sure no one can actually get our hidden details especially if we don't let anyone came in on our room or we assure that we can safekeep those details away from people who usually came to our place.

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January 30, 2024, 05:30:16 PM
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Well, irrespective that the phone belongs to you saving password on the phone is not the best place because anything can happen  that someone else can have access to your phone and if the person gets to see your password that means it can he use to login to get valuable things . I have seen people who save their password on browser and how their account was hacked because their password was saved on a browser.  The Internet is not safe for the storage of password .

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January 30, 2024, 05:58:59 PM
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Everyone have their own reasons of saving some of information to their phone, to save information like credentials for phone is not bad, especially in your email,  you might need an urgent call and you can print out the credentials they needed in your phone as saved..the only thing I will rise against for we to save it in our phone is anything that relates with money especially passwords and other things that result of monetary password....saving a seed phrase in your phone is wrong from my perspective, because someone might picked your phone and it happens that all your password of cryptocurrency wallet are all there, they will not hesitate to import the wallet and penetrate to your coins

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January 30, 2024, 06:06:30 PM
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It's ok to save extra copy of our password and seedphrases. I personally have some usb sticks that I use to store my seedphrase and password, which is stored safely on places that I will not forget. I don't use pen and paper on backing up important information like seedphrase except for those hard wallets that I have. I never store any seedphrase on my phone, there's so much risks into it that I can't commit. It's just better to do good old ways of storing such important datas. I've been doing it for years and I still find it effective as I feel safe doing it.

Another thing, don't put any of your seedphrase online even if it's a password manager or some sort.
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February 01, 2024, 12:43:37 AM
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In a case where your phone is stolen or compromised you would be at a major risk, cause all your valuable credentials would be assible to anyone who has your phone and you would be at a major risk, even saving passwords on your phone is also quite risky cause if someone has access to your phone, your in a big mess

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February 04, 2024, 03:34:14 PM
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It is important not to store any sensitive information about you or your family on your phone because of several reasons.
If somehow your phone got stolen, your entire data might be compromised and get leaked. You might be blackmailed because of the sensitive data.
Your phone can get hacked and your bank information or password gets stolen and you end up losing your money. 
This is why everyone should not just stop at putting a password on their phones but also on the SIM cards. That's how I keep mine. So, it's double work for anyone who steals my phone. If the thief is able to assess my phone without flashing it, they won't be able to assess data saved on my SIM as text messages or drafts. The worse that can happen is that my SIM gets destroyed on the ninth wrong try to break my SIM code. It's a win for me.

...to save information like credentials for phone is not bad, especially in your email,  you might need an urgent call and you can print out the credentials they needed in your phone...
But of course, having one's data in one's email isn't saving it on one's phone. It's on the internet. One can assess it through any other means that's not even phone. The PC and desktop computers are their, besides phones, to harvest such from.

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February 04, 2024, 05:20:07 PM
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...If you're afraid of fire outbreak, make multiple backups in different locations or engrave your seed phrase on a metallic steel plate.

You can do engraving if you only have one wallet. But as practice shows, each user has several dozen different wallets. In this case, to perform an engraving for each wallet is a difficult task. Still, I prefer saving information on two flash drives, one of which performs the function of a backup.

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February 04, 2024, 07:15:07 PM
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That's a wrong advice. Gmail is not safe, Google has been hacked in the past. One thing about these hacks is that most of these big corporations will sweep it under the carpet, they will downplay it and not tell the public the extent of the damage. They'll only tell you what you need to hear. So whatever you do, don't store your seed phrase or private keys electronically (for example gmail, cloud services, mobile or computer devices).

If you're afraid of fire outbreak, make multiple backups in different locations or engrave your seed phrase on a metallic steel plate.

There is a big no for storing you seed digitally, always write it down on paper and store it in your wardrobe or any other safe place. Any thing that has digital existence can be stolen no matter how much security is in place.
What you saying is quite right, your data is never privately held by tech companies. You search for wrist watches on google and you will start seeing ads related to wrist watches on facebook or receiving marketing emails of wrist watches.
Always take backup of your mobile phone and avoid saving sensitive data in your mobile phone. It can be hacked, physically stolen or go out of order at any time.
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Many of the password managers through browsers can be compromised. If there's something wrong that has happened, they're going to notify you while the notification is a good sign that they've got a good way in notifying their users.

But this also means that passwords through them are not safe so if you are the type of guy that keeps your passwords there. Make sure that they're just like fine and you've got not loss upon them being compromised.

I know that many are lazy to type things upon logging in so they want to use the remember the password feature from these browsers but I won't do this especially with financial and crypto websites.

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It's really wrong to save vital information on your phone such as;
 * Login password on your browser or on your mobile apps: have you ever imagined if your phone got stolen or lost and it fell into the wrong hands, and how disastrous it might be to you? It's a very wrong move which should be avoided by all cost

* saving your Secret phase on your phone: if you are ever concerned about your on security, then this one should be avoided by all means, because it's just like when you save you login banking details on your phone, in such senario, if your phone is being compromised and it fell into the wrong hand, then you will surely pay dearly for your actions.

I would suggest that we save all our important information in writing in our jotter or dairy, because a written than words is always longer than the memory.
If it's 2FA, I think it will be saved in the email that you actively use for Google Authenticator (GA), for example. So in the email we also have to secure it by providing a cellphone number and activating 2FA too. I think this is a complex problem so we have to create security at the same time, not just on mobile phone or apps, so we also need to create security for email too.
For example, if you lose your mobile phone, logging into exchange requires email for 2fa and needs GA, so I usually only put GA on my phone, the rest on my laptop. Because if we lose it, other people automatically won't be able to open it either. And for secret phase, I never save it on my phone, for me it's too risky. So I save everything on my laptop for the secret phase.

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Many of the password managers through browsers can be compromised. If there's something wrong that has happened, they're going to notify you while the notification is a good sign that they've got a good way in notifying their users.

But this also means that passwords through them are not safe so if you are the type of guy that keeps your passwords there. Make sure that they're just like fine and you've got not loss upon them being compromised.

I know that many are lazy to type things upon logging in so they want to use the remember the password feature from these browsers but I won't do this especially with financial and crypto websites.
Google's password manager on Chrome actually warns you if any of your passwords have been compromised. It's a decent feature, and I've got to admit that I'm guilty of saving the majority of my passwords on Chrome through my Google account. Everything is pretty much synced to your new devices, if you wish to. It's certainly not the safest way to store your passwords, but it's definitely the most convenient one. As long as you don't keep your online cryptocurrency wallet or exchange, banking, or social media passwords saved there, or if you do, have 2FA enabled, then you're relatively safe, until things go south at least.

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And for secret phase, I never save it on my phone, for me it's too risky. So I save everything on my laptop for the secret phase.
Mind you that whether you save your seed phrase in a mobile device or in a laptop, they are both risky because it is connected to the internet, from your post i quoted above, you seem to have the misconception that it is fine to save your seed phrase in your laptop, but it is not safe to do so on your mobile phone. Well, they are both risky and you should not keep your seed phrase anywhere online, the risk lies in the fact that the device that hodls your seed phrase is online and can be hacked, thus keep it in an offline machine and ensure your backups are also done offline.

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And for secret phase, I never save it on my phone, for me it's too risky. So I save everything on my laptop for the secret phase.
Mind you that whether you save your seed phrase in a mobile device or in a laptop, they are both risky because it is connected to the internet, from your post i quoted above, you seem to have the misconception that it is fine to save your seed phrase in your laptop, but it is not safe to do so on your mobile phone. Well, they are both risky and you should not keep your seed phrase anywhere online, the risk lies in the fact that the device that hodls your seed phrase is online and can be hacked, thus keep it in an offline machine and ensure your backups are also done offline.
I think we have to be very careful how we save vital details on our phones because of the phone got lost, we might not have access to it against and the next holders could scan the phone and use the vital records against us. It is never advisable for us to backup our private keys or seed phrase on phone. The phone could get hacked and we might not have access to the phone again. Once we understand the level of security we need to take to ensure that we don't fall victim, we can always get fortunate and not have the problem of lost seed phrase in our life time.

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Well, irrespective that the phone belongs to you saving password on the phone is not the best place because anything can happen  that someone else can have access to your phone and if the person gets to see your password that means it can he use to login to get valuable things .
If your password is stored on your mobile device, then it’s no longer secret because you already exposed it to people indirectly. Even if your phone is not stolen or hacked, someone might just ask for it, and when given to them, they will see everything you are hiding, so it’s no longer secret if your password is on your phone. When storing your password, we should make sure it’s stored completely offline. Were there is no internet connection, you can just write it on paper or carve it on iron steel, but writing it on paper is not really secure because your paper can be easily damaged and you will lose access to it. But when it’s stored on iron steel, it's more secure.

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I never save it on my phone, for me it's too risky. So I save everything on my laptop for the secret phase.

There's no difference between storing your seed phrase on a mobile phone or a laptop. Both methods are electronic means of storage and it's not safe. If your laptop is comprised by a malware, you could lose your funds. The best method is to store your seed phrase offline. So It's not too late to do the right thing, and don't use the old seed phrase. Create a new wallet, backup the seed phrase manually and send your funds to the newly created wallet.

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February 05, 2024, 05:37:43 PM
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I never save it on my phone, for me it's too risky. So I save everything on my laptop for the secret phase.

There's no difference between storing your seed phrase on a mobile phone or a laptop. Both methods are electronic means of storage and it's not safe. If your laptop is comprised by a malware, you could lose your funds. The best method is to store your seed phrase offline. So It's not too late to do the right thing, and don't use the old seed phrase. Create a new wallet, backup the seed phrase manually and send your funds to the newly created wallet.
newbies find it very difficult to understand that storing seed phrase of crypto wallet in a phone or a laptop is not encouraging because it is an easy access for someone to penetrate to the wallet and also import the wallet with another system through the seed phrase, as you mentioned above that the best method of securing your seed phrase is through offline documentation why online documentation or online storage of seed phrase can make you to lose whatever thing you have especially when you misplace your phone or your laptop whoever that I have access to this two things I mentioned to your wallet and import it to another system, and it is obvious that when your wallet is being import to another system that is every tendency that you might lose whatever thing that is in that wallet forever that is why privacy is very important in cryptocurrency investment.

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