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February 05, 2024, 08:49:07 PM
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I think to educate people on topics like this you will need to provide more detailed information in order to convince them why saving viral information on their phone is wrong. Your points are not bad but more light need to be shed on them. Phones can be compromised and not difficult to hack as we have seen several instances of phone hacks so saving anything on it is not 100% safe.

It's really wrong to save vital information on your phone such as;
 * Login password on your browser or on your mobile apps: have you ever imagined if your phone got stolen or lost and it fell into the wrong hands, and how disastrous it might be to you? It's a very wrong move which should be avoided by all cost
Phone hacks are very common this days and it is not necessarily when phones get stolen or lost that passwords can be compromised or accessed by another person, any device that is being connected to the internet is prone to being hacked that’s why it is not safe to save passwords on your phone. We should be very careful with the links we access on our phones as some links can be used to gain access to the data on our devices.

* saving your Secret phase on your phone: if you are ever concerned about your on security, then this one should be avoided by all means, because it's just like when you save you login banking details on your phone, in such senario, if your phone is being compromised and it fell into the wrong hand, then you will surely pay dearly for your actions..
Seed phrases are not meant to be kept on our devices that's why screenshots are not allowed to be taken and it is advised to write it down somewhere else and stored safely. Any device that is connected to the internet is liable to be hacked or compromised so any data stored on them will be compromised as well, seed phrases should be written, duplicated and store in different locations and not stored on mobile phones or anywhere near an internet connection.

 
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February 05, 2024, 09:30:27 PM
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I would suggest that we save all our important information in writing in our jotter or dairy, because a written than words is always longer than the memory.
You should take a backup copy of your important information on more than one jotter or write it on one on hard or rust-resistant metal objects and keep it in a safe place. Before storing them, you should also re-verify the accuracy of the information again.

One of the things that beginners ignore most is protection. This field requires maximum security to ensure everyone's assets remain safe over time. Phones can be easily hacked through malicious files, apps, or links, and beginners often make the mistake of storing their important information in files or messages saved on communication apps on phones connected to the internet, posing a threat to their holdings. The solution is to use an alternative phone away from the primary phone that contains the wallets and important information, Or to purchase and use a hardware wallet, or, as you mentioned, to write down seed phrases, private keys, passwords, etc., away and not on the phone itself.

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February 05, 2024, 10:18:34 PM
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Storing data on your phone is a quick way to access it when needed in any circumstances - but it's not good security advice when it comes to your wallet details. I have some important notes on my phone so far [expense notes & debt notes] and this makes it easy for me to edit them whenever I want. About wallets and other important data - of course it is not recommended to store them on your phone. Even if your phone doesn't have access to the internet - there is a possibility that your data will be lost due to various reasons including device damage and so on.


I would suggest that we save all our important information in writing in our jotter or dairy, because a written than words is always longer than the memory.
There's no way you can remember 12 different words over the years without having a backup in handwritten form or something. Of course you can write it down or engrave it somewhere - then you need to make a backup and store it separately.

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February 17, 2024, 08:59:34 AM
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It's really wrong to save vital information on your phone such as;
 * Login password on your browser or on your mobile apps: have you ever imagined if your phone got stolen or lost and it fell into the wrong hands, and how disastrous it might be to you? It's a very wrong move which should be avoided by all cost

* saving your Secret phase on your phone: if you are ever concerned about your on security, then this one should be avoided by all means, because it's just like when you save you login banking details on your phone, in such senario, if your phone is being compromised and it fell into the wrong hand, then you will surely pay dearly for your actions.

I would suggest that we save all our important information in writing in our jotter or dairy, because a written than words is always longer than the memory.


Saving logins details and secret phrase in phone is not actually bad but it depends on where and how you saved it, that is to say that you can save your logins and secret Phrase in your mail or those applications that hide documents, photos etc I think they can be safe there. Someone who is inclined in all these online stuff can't foolishly save his or her details anyhow in the phone.
However, writing it in a diary or joter is not even the best because your joter or diary can still  be misplaced one day. So none of them is more preferable all have advantage and disadvantage but I prefer saving in mail because even if something happens to your phone you can still get it back.
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February 17, 2024, 11:40:24 PM
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Honestly OP, you will never realize that was wrong until when you have been hacked and the main cause is the keys that are stored in your phone.
If you care about it, I don't recommend saving your important details on your phone but keep it separately. We may say we are prone to hacking but at least we make these hackers suffer difficulties before they discover our keys. As they are smart, we should also be smart in keeping and securing our funds so that they realize that people are also learning.

We must consider those people who have experienced hacking as a lesson to learn rather than wait for it to happen to us. It makes no sense as it was given already and yet, we don't do something to avoid it.
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February 18, 2024, 09:27:14 AM
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I don't think it is safe to store important things in the phone because if the phone is lost or stolen or damaged at any time then it will not be possible to recover those things easily. Especially if I save the Bitcoin wallet security system or private key or seed phase in the phone, then if the mobile phone is damaged or stolen, then I will never be able to recover the security system of my wallet, so hackers or thieves can easily access my wallet. Can withdraw bitcoins from mobile phones.

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February 18, 2024, 10:10:50 AM
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Not that it's actually wrong to save your vital information on your gadget but where it will be wrong is when one discloses his personal phone password to people around because you think you trust them so much.
 
But for me absolutely not, I don't save my vital information on my phone. The only information I save on my smart phone are people’s names and phone numbers, plus the occasional note to myself. When I make a note, I’m cryptic about references to things.

There are good reasons for this. One of the biggest is that a huge number of apps are designed to suck a lot of what you think is private data right out of your phone.

I know that sounds a little paranoid, but according to the PEW Research Center a remarkable amount of information is silently being extracted from our devices in addition to our locations, all without people being aware of it. So for this it's not adivcable to save your vital information on our phones.
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February 18, 2024, 10:57:19 AM
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I never save it on my phone, for me it's too risky. So I save everything on my laptop for the secret phase.

There's no difference between storing your seed phrase on a mobile phone or a laptop. Both methods are electronic means of storage and it's not safe.

I'm totally with you regarding potential risks because both devices are usually online devices which are exposed to internet communication and vulnerabilities and malware.

Mobile phones are riskier in my opinion because users carry them around, mostly more often than laptops, do all sorts of internet shit with it, install and use whoknowswhat apps on them. Mobile phones are also riskier to loose or be stolen.

Security issues with mobile phones sometimes start with a "smart" keyboard app already on the device or installed by the user for some additional convenience. Does the keyboard app keep all typed data strictly local? Are you 100% certain of that?

To the extend mobile phones mutated to data gathering devices for big companies (and governments?), you should not rely on or expect your data to remain any private and secure on such devices. Yes, that's probably a bit exaggerated but can you prove and be certain of the opposite? I highly doubt...

Keep mnemonic recovery words strictly offline all the time, period! I can't think of a good reason to do otherwise.

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February 18, 2024, 03:41:56 PM
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It's really wrong to save vital information on your phone such as;
 * Login password on your browser or on your mobile apps: have you ever imagined if your phone got stolen or lost and it fell into the wrong hands, and how disastrous it might be to you? It's a very wrong move which should be avoided by all cost

* saving your Secret phase on your phone: if you are ever concerned about your on security, then this one should be avoided by all means, because it's just like when you save you login banking details on your phone, in such senario, if your phone is being compromised and it fell into the wrong hand, then you will surely pay dearly for your actions.

I would suggest that we save all our important information in writing in our jotter or dairy, because a written than words is always longer than the memory.

That's true, I once experience a hack on my email, and this email contained the seed phrases to most of my wallets, I just dont know how they were able to get hold of it, but my email was compromised and so was one of my wallets. I lost over $500 that day. I was luck to have noticed and intercepted the hacker as quickly as I could and that was how I managed to  secure the remaining funds left in the other wallets, else I would've been completely sucked dry.
That thought me a great lesson and I restrained from keeping vital informations on my phone or online.

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February 18, 2024, 04:05:44 PM
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Phones are not a safe place to store all important information, there are many reasons that can harm someone who stores important information on them. A cellphone does not guarantee 100% that all your secrets will be safe, you never know the evil intentions of a friend for borrowing a cellphone for certain things, he can easily steal all your personal information including the Seed Phrase stored in it.
Being trapped in a Phishing link also threatens the safety of your assets, now many scammers are trying to spread Phishing links to find their victims. You never know when that will happen, so you need to anticipate it as a form of prevention by choosing a safe place to store all personal secrets related to your login password or Seed Phrase.

 
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February 21, 2024, 10:11:51 AM
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What information can I stored on my phone that nobody must not see? None...

If my phone get lost right now, they need to unlock with finger print, if they can't then they have to use other technical means to unlock the phone, like erasing and formatting the whole thing, which means there will be loss of data information.

Let's say miraculously they unlock the phone, I don't store any crypto on my phone, I have them stored in a hardware wallet, they can have access to my crypto exchange accounts since browsers are saving passwords and others but the accounts are always empty, I don't keep money on any account using my phone.

Bank account? They will have to deal with three questions before they get access, and to move funds out they will have to deal with transaction key too, it's going to be extremely hard, though I don't keep money in the bank but they aren't getting nothing, I will just have to open new account for crypto exchanges and block the bank account on my phone, even three trails with questions been asked will automatically block the account.

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February 21, 2024, 01:10:35 PM
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It's really wrong to save vital information on your phone such as;
 * Login password on your browser or on your mobile apps: have you ever imagined if your phone got stolen or lost and it fell into the wrong hands, and how disastrous it might be to you? It's a very wrong move which should be avoided by all cost


People are lazy they don't have enough time and capacity to memorize all of the usernames, and passwords they use in a specific platform so they keep using the feature of saving into their device, If you will do this and you lose your device make sure you still have access to lock the device or the account itself so you can prevent that information getting compromised.

* saving your Secret phase on your phone: if you are ever concerned about your on security, then this one should be avoided by all means, because it's just like when you save you login banking details on your phone, in such senario, if your phone is being compromised and it fell into the wrong hand, then you will surely pay dearly for your actions.

People are now confident with their devices because its convenient for to them have this a click away, you can prevent this at the first place if you are aware of possible attacks like phishing emails and spam SMS. Being knowledgeable will help you to make sure your information is safe but still you are vulnerable because you are using the internet.

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February 21, 2024, 03:05:19 PM
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I don't think it is safe to store important things in the phone because if the phone is lost or stolen or damaged at any time then it will not be possible to recover those things easily. Especially if I save the Bitcoin wallet security system or private key or seed phase in the phone, then if the mobile phone is damaged or stolen, then I will never be able to recover the security system of my wallet, so hackers or thieves can easily access my wallet. Can withdraw bitcoins from mobile phones.
The first thing to do when saving passwords is to avoid saving them on your phone, You can easily get hacked, and I have seen cases where even phone repairers will hack people after repairs, so if you are someone who is used to auto-saving passwords, then your privacy will at the end of the day get breached, and cases like this would have cost some people there assets. I know that whether hardware or hard copy, we always see them as stress, and that is the best way to keep your data safe. Even people who are safe in there emails are also not safe, and another thing is that if you lose that phone, there is a possibility you will get everything back.

If your cell phone goes missing, how do you even get your wall to see a phrase or other data? I still prefer storing things the old way. Anything digital now can easily be compromised, and that is why people always complain of being hacked. and imagine I have bitcoin. If this happens to me, I don't think I will be able to survive anything that should happen to my bitcoin, it won't be a good experience at all.

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February 21, 2024, 04:40:19 PM
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What information can I stored on my phone that nobody must not see? None...

If my phone get lost right now, they need to unlock with finger print, if they can't then they have to use other technical means to unlock the phone, like erasing and formatting the whole thing, which means there will be loss of data information.

Let's say miraculously they unlock the phone, I don't store any crypto on my phone, I have them stored in a hardware wallet, they can have access to my crypto exchange accounts since browsers are saving passwords and others but the accounts are always empty, I don't keep money on any account using my phone.

Bank account? They will have to deal with three questions before they get access, and to move funds out they will have to deal with transaction key too, it's going to be extremely hard, though I don't keep money in the bank but they aren't getting nothing, I will just have to open new account for crypto exchanges and block the bank account on my phone, even three trails with questions been asked will automatically block the account.
as you said, if we have anticipated the worst possibility that could happen to our device, then there will be no problems. but the problem is when someone saves the recovery seed or key from their wallet online such as in a Google spreadsheet or something else on a lost device. it could be bad for the device owner.
However, we still use smartphone devices every day. everything is connected there to make all the transactions we do every day easier. whether it's banking or social media. we must be wiser in using devices. Even if the device is lost, we can recover data on another device. but as much as possible we still don't want to experience that.

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February 21, 2024, 06:44:36 PM
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I would suggest that we save all our important information in writing in our jotter or dairy, because a written than words is always longer than the memory.
I once had this friend that at some point made a statement that I didn’t fully understand then until later. He said;

Your phone might be just yours but, the content of your phone isn’t just yours! He said this in respect to music though but I feel it this applies to every aspect of what is on your phone or device.

A phone is something we carry about just anywhere, tend to sleep with it even and in course of our daily activity, we might meet that one friend that would like us to let him free handle our device. Some of us just will, based on the relationship we’ve got with this person and might not see reason to be any security conscious.
Eventually, this friend might stumble on what even himself or herself never had plans on and taking advantage of it eventually becomes the plan then, you’ll be sorry and wouldn’t even know where your issues is coming from.
Even in obvious hack cases.

We really need to be mindful of what we leave on our device.
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February 29, 2024, 06:54:52 PM
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Quote from: Nothingtodo
I don't think it is safe to store important things in the phone because if the phone is lost or stolen or damaged at any time then it will not be possible to recover those things easily. Especially if I save the Bitcoin wallet security system or private key or seed phase in the phone, then if the mobile phone is damaged or stolen, then I will never be able to recover the security system of my wallet, so hackers or thieves can easily access my wallet. Can withdraw bitcoins from mobile phones.
I will not encourage anybody to save their information on phone or laptop because anything can happen, that will make such person to lose all his money and it will be very easy for such person that stole the phone to have access to your Bitcointalk.org account and, it can make the person to make some post that will make them to destroy your account that took you some years to grow.

 That is why is very good to write down all your personal details in case someone stole your phone or laptop, it will be easy for such person to recover his or her coins back because the most important thing you need to restore your coins back is your seeds phrase and password.

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