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January 27, 2024, 01:06:43 PM
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So many people hear about bitcointalk forum from friends, families, internet and so on they where not given the full details of the Dos and Don'ts (the rules of the forum) of the forum. they where only told about the juicy parts of the forum because of that they are excited to join without making deep research.

Newbie should be corrected and not to be use to earn merits, most of the top rank members earn most of their merits from attacking and reporting newbie.
                 WHAT IS NEWBIES
newbies is a person who just started a  particular activity without having full knowledge. Newbies are also called novice, newcomer, beginner.

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Before you are been named or given a rank I believe you have pass through many challenges, obstacles before reaching the level you are now. I believe there is a reason why you are at that level. they are vital importance of being a top rank members
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2: To support
3: To Teach and so many more

I believe that Bitcoin talk forum is a home of knowledge and knowledge is acquired and distributed.
 
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January 27, 2024, 01:14:35 PM
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CORRECT AND NOT ATTACK
How do you mean?
There is actually no official rule or dos and don'ts here on Bitcointalk the rules are actually official unofficial rules.
This is the internet where there is absolute freedom so it's up to newbies to either learn and contribute to the forum or spam and try scam and end up being either banned or your account filled with negative tags.
Every one on this forum even the legendary members you mentioned were once newbies with zero merit. And of course some of the high ranked members can be rude or thick headed here but you are going to have to learn to live with it or should I say learn despite it.

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January 27, 2024, 01:55:20 PM
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So many people hear about bitcointalk forum from friends, families, internet and so on they where not given the full details of the Dos and Don'ts (the rules of the forum) of the forum. they where only told about the juicy parts of the forum because of that they are excited to join without making deep research.

Newbie should be corrected and not to be use to earn merits, most of the top rank members earn most of their merits from attacking and reporting newbie.
                 WHAT IS NEWBIES
newbies is a person who just started a  particular activity without having full knowledge. Newbies are also called novice, newcomer, beginner.

IMPORTANT OF TOP RANK MEMBERS
Before you are been named or given a rank I believe you have pass through many challenges, obstacles before reaching the level you are now. I believe there is a reason why you are at that level. they are vital importance of being a top rank members
1: To guide and not to judge
2: To support
3: To Teach and so many more

I believe that Bitcoin talk forum is a home of knowledge and knowledge is acquired and distributed.
 

What do you mean attacking? if they had been attack then those newbie done something wrong. It will not happen if they just read and follow the rules.

Also don't oblige high ranking members to teach newbies because its up for those people to help since this is not mandatory not everyone have plenty of time to spend here or teaching someone. But if they have question they can post it here and for sure they will be answered.


1: To guide and not to judge

No one judging newbie if they are willing to learn a high ranking member what you mean also came here as newbie but they exert a lot of people to learn and not relying to be spoon feed by more experience than them, you need to know that since you are the one who can solve the complexity of what you are trying to learn.

2: To support

Support is here as I said earlier they also need to exert effort so they can learn.

3: To Teach and so many more

They can learn if they ask serious question as a newbie for sure lots of people is willing to answer or do some little research for them so that they can learn something base on what they are trying to figure out.




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January 27, 2024, 01:59:58 PM
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These are the type of discussions that need to be considered on a case by case basis. You can't lump all high rankings members into one group who attack and can't lump all newbies into a bunch of well meaning but ill adviced individuals.

More importantly, it's much easier to grow a tougher skin to the comments of others than to get them to change the way they communicate. The internet is an uncensored cesspool and I find here to contain mostly cultured member when compared to the rest.

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January 27, 2024, 02:13:13 PM
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they where only told about the juicy parts of the forum because of that they are excited to join without making deep research.

You mean that some can earn money from signatures and bounties?
And in the spirit of friendship we should encourage everybody post nonsense to rank up? Should we encourage plagiarism? Should we allow AI-generated answers, some laughably off topic? Then whoever wants to find out about bitcoin will.. have to look elsewhere because the information here will become unreliable?
I hope that this is not what you meant. But this can easily be understood from your sentence.

they where only told about the juicy parts of the forum because of that they are excited to join without
I believe that Bitcoin talk forum is a home of knowledge and knowledge is acquired and distributed.

Yes, it's about sharing knowledge. And if somebody did a tiny bit of effort to research and then ask meaningfully, he usually gets the info he needs (of course, he might have to find the correct answers and maybe refine the questions too).

The problem is when some come thinking they know things - and the reality shows they don't.
Plus, you should understand that this is like everywhere in the world: some talk nicer, some not, some may be trolling and so on. Even more, this forum has a good respect for the freedom of speech.
Also the forum has a very powerful tool: the "ignore" functionality. It helps for mental sanity until you find your way around and grow thicker skin. Use it heavily. And every now and then clean up the ignore list because at start you can easily go wrong.


PS. You ask not to judge. You forget we are humans. You started by judging and preaching too, after all Wink
PPS. Chill. Learn to get everything more lightly - not only here, but also on the whole internet and life too.

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January 27, 2024, 02:17:03 PM
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One thing I can tell you as a new is that if you are scared of criticism and thereby labelling it as an attack then mate you aren't ready yet to be here, the forum is a different world of its own entirely and each person has a freedom of opinion which is why you shouldn't let another's opinion hey in your way in affecting your decision to stay comfortably or leave the forum.

No body here knows it all and for that reason I can rightly classify every member as a newbie, the only difference between you that just arrived in the forum and I that have been here is the ranks difference. There are some newbies that are knowledgeable and well grounded in cryptocurrency even before getting to the forum but then they can't start in the middle they must create an account to start with. In all essence, my counsel is that as a newbie take in every attack or criticism meted on you and use them to build yourself instead of complaining cause nobody F-cares.

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January 27, 2024, 05:54:23 PM
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So many people hear about bitcointalk forum from friends, families, internet and so on they where not given the full details of the Dos and Don'ts (the rules of the forum) of the forum. they where only told about the juicy parts of the forum because of that they are excited to join without making deep research.

Newbie should be corrected and not to be use to earn merits, most of the top rank members earn most of their merits from attacking and reporting newbie.
                 WHAT IS NEWBIES
newbies is a person who just started a  particular activity without having full knowledge. Newbies are also called novice, newcomer, beginner.

IMPORTANT OF TOP RANK MEMBERS
Before you are been named or given a rank I believe you have pass through many challenges, obstacles before reaching the level you are now. I believe there is a reason why you are at that level. they are vital importance of being a top rank members
1: To guide and not to judge
2: To support
3: To Teach and so many more

I believe that Bitcoin talk forum is a home of knowledge and knowledge is acquired and distributed.
 
Ordinary as a person you should look forward to people not aligning with your sense of reasoning or supposedly opposing your views, because is a natural phenomenon. I don't see most of the opposing views as attack, it is either somebody is correcting you for not doing the right thing or the person is opposing what you said, but what you mean by attack needs to be properly defined, because attack can be maligning someone's character or abusing somebody which I know forum members don't indulge in. So as a forum member the first thing to do is to learn the rules of the forum, take time to learn and don't see corrections as attack.

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                 WHAT IS NEWBIES
newbies is a person who just started a  particular activity without having full knowledge. Newbies are also called novice, newcomer, beginner.

IMPORTANT OF TOP RANK MEMBERS
Before you are been named or given a rank I believe you have pass through many challenges, obstacles before reaching the level you are now. I believe there is a reason why you are at that level. they are vital importance of being a top rank members
1: To guide and not to judge
2: To support
3: To Teach and so many more
Can you tell me what scar it will leave on your skin if you are corrected in a way you don't appreciate? Many of the things you have mentioned are not necessary. You can just leave it to slide and it's nothing to agitate about. Sometimes correct comes with a hard voice and that does not mean that the sole reason is for merit.yiu don't have to keep making the same mistakes over and over again. Everything should be a process and don't ever rush it. I believe a time would come when you will be the one correcting people on how to behave here. Life is all about stages and no correction should be seen as hatred.

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January 27, 2024, 09:47:04 PM
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So many people hear about bitcointalk forum from friends, families, internet and so on they where not given the full details of the Dos and Don'ts (the rules of the forum) of the forum. they where only told about the juicy parts of the forum because of that they are excited to join without making deep research.

Newbie should be corrected and not to be use to earn merits, most of the top rank members earn most of their merits from attacking and reporting newbie.
What do you mean by reporting newbies? You won't earn merit if you report messages to moderators. So if you're talking about newbies account exposed for scam, spam or plagiarism, people are doing that not to earn merits but to protect the forum and its users. It's very easy to open a fresh account here, you don't need to go through any KYC, so many people create accounts here in order to try to do bad things. That's why newbies and brand new account are often viewed with suspicion in the english part and in large local boards. But on most other local boards newcomers are generally welcomed and gladly hepled.

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January 27, 2024, 10:27:59 PM
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I was a newbie once, and at the time faced my fair share of challenges being a novice to bitcoin and the forum but my thirst for knowledge was my motivation to learn about the bitcoin ecosystem and also become a better poster on the forum. My era is quite different from this one, we didn’t have many newbies creating threads about how harsh older members are. I can list ten threads that’s been created in just this month by newbies revolving around the topic.

I remember you from the scammer thread. Not the best way to start your journey here.

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January 27, 2024, 10:44:13 PM
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This only means that you want the information to be given to you instead of doing some research yourself. High ranking forum members is not oblige to teach newbies all the information/knowledge they know. Well, i'll share two of do's and one don'ts for you, do not ask other forum members all the knowledge or information you want to learn, do make your own research so that you will become knowledgeable and only ask if you have something that you find hard to understand or complicated.

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Why do many newbies take some comments as an attack, I think many of the new members like us need to take how higher rank members treat and react to us with a more positive mindset, instead of seeing them as an attacks, having a negative mindset could affect your overall productivity as a beginner,  many of us have been treated worst than just criticism and attack to a point you need to develop strong will powers to continue to develop and improve yourself and in no time, the true content of you will be reveal to the whole forum.
One member may like you and the other dislike you, that is human behaviour for you, you cant control how people like or react to you, but you can control how you take they reactions and it effects on you, so be safe and continue to be a good member of the forum.

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Hmmm, did some of your replies made a higher rank told you something that you didn't like? And instead of correcting you, you think that he's attacking you? I guess that is where you are coming from. Or if it didn't happened to you, have you seen that some of the high or top ranks did some misjudgement based on your understanding the discussions? There's need more of the context about this thread you've made so we will understand why you have made this topic. Because if that is what I've said, everyone has to grow and understand that we're in a forum and you may feel that it's an attack but usually it's just how they correct people and we've got different cultures and values. You think that the replies are attacking you but you're just thinking like that where it's correcting you or some other newbies.

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Op by now you are supposed to know how the forum works and not come out to talk about things you feel is abnormal why you actually know that is true . You have been around here for almost 2years now I think that's enough time for you to understand and learn that the forum is made up of different people,  advising newbies for them to learn shouldn't be a big concern for you because they can learn and later on become pros in knowledge here and they won't have any reason to complain again. You need to be ready and not get discouraged or distracted because a member here corrected you on something which you don't believe to be true. Get emotion away and try and develop your knowledge and see if you won't be motivated by lots of encouragement that you will be getting here when you do things right, everyone must not agree with you or what you said before you can be happy learn to be happy and enjoy interacting with people here.


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January 27, 2024, 11:52:07 PM
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So many people hear about bitcointalk forum from friends, families, internet and so on they where not given the full details of the Dos and Don'ts (the rules of the forum) of the forum.
Even if this is what happens, they ought to know that every online forum has rules and regulations that are used to govern the ecosystem.
Assuming they are also not aware of it, they can easily ask a question about it if they actually want to learn and the issue will be solved rather than doing something that will affect their reputation.

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So many people hear about bitcointalk forum from friends, families, internet and so on they where not given the full details of the Dos and Don'ts (the rules of the forum) of the forum.
Even if this is what happens, they ought to know that every online forum has rules and regulations that are used to govern the ecosystem.
Assuming they are also not aware of it, they can easily ask a question about it if they actually want to learn and the issue will be solved rather than doing something that will affect their reputation.

OP shouldn’t be making such claims, he’s been a member of the forum since 2022. Not so active with this account though. Finding the forum rules is not a difficult task. It’s literally pinned on the Beginners & Help board. Even if you miss it, older members always give links to the forum rules when new members introduce themselves or ask a “newbie” question.

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So many people hear about bitcointalk forum from friends, families, internet and so on they where not given the full details of the Dos and Don'ts (the rules of the forum) of the forum. they where only told about the juicy parts of the forum because of that they are excited to join without making deep research.

Newbie should be corrected and not to be use to earn merits, most of the top rank members earn most of their merits from attacking and reporting newbie.
                 WHAT IS NEWBIES
newbies is a person who just started a  particular activity without having full knowledge. Newbies are also called novice, newcomer, beginner.

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Before you are been named or given a rank I believe you have pass through many challenges, obstacles before reaching the level you are now. I believe there is a reason why you are at that level. they are vital importance of being a top rank members
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I believe that Bitcoin talk forum is a home of knowledge and knowledge is acquired and distributed.
 
Hello Op, first in the title you got "attacks" wrong. Please correct the OP's title "attacks".
As far as I know, there doesn't seem to be any attack on you in this forum. Because this forum has a moderator, or DT, so even if you're new to this btt forum, it's a good idea to find out first what you can post and what you can't, of course there are rules.
I believe that this Btt forum has established rules and guidelines that are clearly outlined for everyone.

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Can you cite an example where newbies are getting attacked?  I do not think that ranked members had attacked any newcomers here without telling them what is their fault.  Most members in the forum are very patient correcting and answering newbies' inquiries even though they had been asking questions that had been asked too many times in the forum.

As long as newbies' posts or created topics are not malicious or have hidden agendas that may bring harm to readers, members will never "attack".  Members may criticize while they are correcting newbies but they do it to make newbies learn this kind of action is called constructive criticism and shouldn't be considered as an attack to demerit newbies.

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Newbie should be corrected and not to be use to earn merits, most of the top rank members earn most of their merits from attacking and reporting newbie.
You won't blame them because that Is the easiest way of corrections. Somebody who wants to change will change despite the criticism. Infact criticism is the best way to learn, because it gives you a motivation to know your left from your right. It might be sad that creating a Merit deserving post will be diverted to reply instead of the actual post, but merit is not only for thread created but sometimes comment are interesting than the thread itself. So don't be naive or feel bad, it just a gradual process that's how it has been. If you creat a meaningful thread that deserves merit, It will be given without a waste of time. And you will receive a nice reply.
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Newbie should be corrected and not to be use to earn merits, most of the top rank members earn most of their merits from attacking and reporting newbie.
I know how you feel when you are not merited on a thread that is giving other top rank members merits, the correction made by the top rank members to correct you in some things so that other newbies will not think that what you wrote is very correct in the forum because, if the top rank members allow such things in the forum, it will cause more harm to up coming newbies in the forum and, i don't think they are doing those correction for the sake of of merits OP because some of them are legendary members which no amount of merits you will give to them that will mean anything to them.

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