CORRECT AND NOT ATTACK

[Lamkuthang]

1: To guide and not to judge

and that is the reason why we who are just learning are here and Thank you to our seniors who have given their time and thoughts for all of us here.

[Majestic-milf]

So many people hear about bitcointalk forum from friends, families, internet and so on they where not given the full details of the Dos and Don'ts (the rules of the forum) of the forum. they where only told about the juicy parts of the forum because of that they are excited to join without making deep research.

You're right. Some are not given guidelines by their 'referees', but what about those newbies who come here with those ' I'm a newbie' threads? That after they are kindly supplied the list of do's and don'ts of the forum but still end up effing up?
Secondly, how can you understand how a thing operates of you don't at least make your findings about the thing? Supposing here was like an electronic device, are you saying they will look past the instructions on how to operate it and just go straight?.
Sometimes, people tend to generalize things and if you are asked to give an instance where you were "attacked" I don't think you'd be able to. Again, you feel they are being attacked because of the tone at which a higher member may have used, but then you won't blame them because sometimes these noobs ask way too obvious questions and its as if they want to be spoonfed every step of the way. Even you would agree that it gets tiring sometimes.

[lovesmayfamilis]

The OP once wrote a story in which he did not act very honestly, and now he is offended that people did not support him but, on the contrary, accused him. Look at his tag. Should you trust such a guy?
Besides, OP, you rarely appear on the forum, or you simply log in from another account, but all your posts are dedicated to the rules. Today you came up with a new rule for high ranks. Maybe you should look and re-read everything that you write and ask yourself, Are you so good that you will be loved and not judged? In the end, just think about what you write so as not to be attacked by criticism.

[Nangiconference]

So many people hear about bitcointalk forum from friends, families, internet and so on they where not given the full details of the Dos and Don'ts (the rules of the forum) of the forum. they where only told about the juicy parts of the forum because of that they are excited to join without making deep research.

Newbie should be corrected and not to be use to earn merits, most of the top rank members earn most of their merits from attacking and reporting newbie.
                 WHAT IS NEWBIES
newbies is a person who just started a  particular activity without having full knowledge. Newbies are also called novice, newcomer, beginner.

IMPORTANT OF TOP RANK MEMBERS
Before you are been named or given a rank I believe you have pass through many challenges, obstacles before reaching the level you are now. I believe there is a reason why you are at that level. they are vital importance of being a top rank members
1: To guide and not to judge
2: To support
3: To Teach and so many more

I believe that Bitcoin talk forum is a home of knowledge and knowledge is acquired and distributed.
 

Op you are right. There was a time I made 3 posts in interval of a minute. The next comment I could get is that I am shift posting. Mind you, it took me days to compose those topics and saved them because I wanted to post them at once, when I got this comment, I was really discouraged because I also earned one merit for one of the post that I was attacked It was absolutely discouraging. It always as if I was spamming whereas I took time to come up with those topics. Like as it stands now I have a topic I have composed but still waiting to add more value before I post, now when I post I then got attacked it will really demorale me.

[Stepstowealth]

Newbie should be corrected and not to be use to earn merits, most of the top rank members earn most of their merits from attacking and reporting newbie

This is not true, you just made an incorrect statement that if you are corrected or slightly criticized for it will begin to think that the people in the forum who are older members have a problem with you and have singled you out to always attack you. As a newbie you should understand that this forum has people who are highly knowledgeable and may be irritated by silly questions or information that was not properly researched just like a statement that you just made. To really survive in this forum you have to be tough, know the rules and understand that nobody hates you.

[SatoPrincess]

Op you are right. There was a time I made 3 posts in interval of a minute. The next comment I could get is that I am shift posting. Mind you, it took me days to compose those topics and saved them because I wanted to post them at once, when I got this comment, I was really discouraged because I also earned one merit for one of the post that I was attacked It was absolutely discouraging. It always as if I was spamming whereas I took time to come up with those topics. Like as it stands now I have a topic I have composed but still waiting to add more value before I post, now when I post I then got attacked it will really demorale me.

The neutral tag on your account states you’re a spammer. Interestingly, this is feedback from members of your local board. IMO locals are generally soft on their own, so if they think you are worth tagging, you definitely need to review your posting habits and stop playing victim. Your posts were critiqued because they were did not have any value. You said you spent three days preparing the topics, so this may sound harsh but I advise you take the criticism and strive to be a better poster.

[lalabotax]

Newbie should be corrected and not to be use to earn merits, most of the top rank members earn most of their merits from attacking and reporting newbie.
                 WHAT IS NEWBIES
newbies is a person who just started a  particular activity without having full knowledge. Newbies are also called novice, newcomer, beginner.

IMPORTANT OF TOP RANK MEMBERS
Before you are been named or given a rank I believe you have pass through many challenges, obstacles before reaching the level you are now. I believe there is a reason why you are at that level. they are vital importance of being a top rank members
1: To guide and not to judge
2: To support
3: To Teach and so many more

I believe that Bitcoin talk forum is a home of knowledge and knowledge is acquired and distributed.
 

Do you feel attacked by top members? Do you see it as attacks and judgment? Or is everything you think is actually criticism and input?
Do you think all top members are like that?
In this forum there are many characters of people from various countries. So we can't just think from our side. There are many top members who always help newbies and also lower ranks to further improve the quality of posts. Whatever style of language they use, the point is what they are talking about and sharing. So we can just think positively with various language styles that may be different. And I'm sure there is no judgment for newbies from the top members. Unless the newbies are really going too far on this forum.

And what is this? You're talking about getting merits from attacking newbies? Can you give the proofs? I think they get merits because they desire that. Because their posts are indeed worthy of merits. not from attacking newbies. Maybe you are the one who looks too much at the opposite side.

In fact, it's not enough for top memes to provide various information and share it. On every board in this forum there are even various guidelines, have you read them or at least seen them? because you still demand top memes to guide the newbies, even though there is already a lot of guidance here. Maybe you didn't see it. Try to be more open minded and open to various suggestions and criticism from other members, so that you can better digest what they advise you.

[SatoPrincess]

And what is this? You're talking about getting merits from attacking newbies? Can you give the proofs? I think they get merits because they desire that. Because their posts are indeed worthy of merits. not from attacking newbies. Maybe you are the one who looks too much at the opposite side.

In fact, it's not enough for top memes to provide various information and share it. On every board in this forum there are even various guidelines, have you read them or at least seen them? because you still demand top memes to guide the newbies, even though there is already a lot of guidance here. Maybe you didn't see it. Try to be more open minded and open to various suggestions and criticism from other members, so that you can better digest what they advise you.

Yeah, I think I have an idea why he thinks older members “attack” posts for merit.  It’s not uncommon for people to get merits for saying what should be said. In this case, calling users on their BS when need be. I’d merit such posts because I share with the same opinion as the poster.

 This is a bit off-topic but…why do I feel your blood pressure went up when as you were typing this post. I’m reading the words but I can hear you screaming your lungs out lol.

[Adbitco]

If those people you called to be the higher rank do not developed themselves to read and study they forum how do you think they could have gained this very rank you cherished so much? It's not possible here you grow by reading and accepting correction and not by waiting for people to teach you everything before you could pushed harder. The forum is always opened for everyone the goal there is you should discover the areas of the forum that you knowns the best than you waiting to be judged by people or higher ranked member.

You should defines what you want and what you need to know about this forum and if that is being carried I am not sure anyone here will have that time to attack you for anything except in a scenario where you think your knowledge and words is final maybe others don't know what they are saying its from then you would see people that knows more than you will attack you to make sure that impression is being corrected.

[KingsDen]

Newbie should be corrected and not to be use to earn merits, most of the top rank members earn most of their merits from attacking and reporting newbie.

While this might sound unreal, it is very true. I have faced such a challenge while I was a lower ranked member. Some of the established members does nothing else than to bash the newbies. When they ask innocent questions, they take advantage of the question to earn merits to themselves and demarket the questionair who is the Op. These things happen, but if you are not sensitive enough, you will not understand. A post that ought to get merits, but due to the first responder was hash and negative towards the Op, no one will drop a single merit for Op. Unless in a rare case that people like DdMrDdMr will.


 

IMPORTANT OF TOP RANK MEMBERS
Before you are been named or given a rank I believe you have pass through many challenges, obstacles before reaching the level you are now. I believe there is a reason why you are at that level. they are vital importance of being a top rank members
1: To guide and not to judge
2: To support
3: To Teach and so many more

I believe that Bitcoin talk forum is a home of knowledge and knowledge is acquired and distributed.
 

Some established members do the above while some newbies are so adamant. And in some cases they turn to be teaching the established members how the forum works. Things like this are offensive, especially for people who have been long here and know how unreal some newbies are

[Porfirii]

Newbie should be corrected and not to be use to earn merits, most of the top rank members earn most of their merits from attacking and reporting newbie.

While this might sound unreal, it is very true. I have faced such a challenge while I was a lower ranked member. Some of the established members does nothing else than to bash the newbies. When they ask innocent questions, they take advantage of the question to earn merits to themselves and demarket the questionair who is the Op. These things happen, but if you are not sensitive enough, you will not understand. A post that ought to get merits, but due to the first responder was hash and negative towards the Op, no one will drop a single merit for Op. Unless in a rare case that people like DdMrDdMr will.

You nailed it mentioning Mr Ddmr² here. There is a shared impression among several members here that politics is taking over the forum, and strategic alliances and personal wars weigh more than creating quality content in order to get merits. Happily, a few honorable exceptions still exist here. They know who they are, and it is up to each newbie to discover who they are, amidst all the noise. You already mentioned one, but let's not make any more spoilers (or why not?).

[YOSHIE]

CORRECT AND NOT ATTACK

At the end of the story we know they are fake beginners, aka fake beginners, we really appreciate and respect those who are actually beginners who come here, with the aim of wanting to know and learn a lot about forums and Bitcoin, unfortunately they pretended they didn't know anything, in the end it was discovered they weren't true beginners, they had an Alt involved in a series of violations.

We do not judge, in fact they themselves never respect all the rules that have been made, in many cases they have high ranking accounts and attack behind their beginner accounts, you misunderstand about judging, real beginners are free to do anything, as long as they understand all the existing rules, we don't judge as long as you don't become a fake beginner.

[Ever-young]

Sometimes, advice and guidance may appear to look like attacking or bullying, yes it's true that most of the high ranked members here may have a very funny way of correcting or guiding people because that was the same way they were taught. It's tolerable if one newbie comes and makes a spam or merit fishing post, you can assume that they're doing it out of ignorance and then you go ahead to correct them, but when there's 10 more, trust me you'll be pissed because it only means that majority of the people who join the forum are coming with very wrong perspective and viewpoint about the forum and this misconception should be corrected by every means necessary to avoid spamming the community. So don't blame people who get fed up and decide to tell them the truth. You know the truth sometimes can be bitter, no one is a baby here, so no one should be treated as such.

[Cityhunter34]

So many people hear about bitcointalk forum from friends, families, internet and so on they where not given the full details of the Dos and Don'ts (the rules of the forum) of the forum. they where only told about the juicy parts of the forum because of that they are excited to join without making deep research.

Newbie should be corrected and not to be use to earn merits, most of the top rank members earn most of their merits from attacking and reporting newbie.
                 WHAT IS NEWBIES
newbies is a person who just started a  particular activity without having full knowledge. Newbies are also called novice, newcomer, beginner.

IMPORTANT OF TOP RANK MEMBERS
Before you are been named or given a rank I believe you have pass through many challenges, obstacles before reaching the level you are now. I believe there is a reason why you are at that level. they are vital importance of being a top rank members
1: To guide and not to judge
2: To support
3: To Teach and so many more

I believe that Bitcoin talk forum is a home of knowledge and knowledge is acquired and distributed.
 

I want to applaud you for your courage to make this post, high ranked members are most times very strict and tough but I wouldn't call it attack as that's the only way to keep most stubborn newbies in check. High ranked members will come for you only if you keep making the same mistake over and over again, expect criticism but not attacks am sure they went through the same thing as they were once newbies like you and I.

[Bright0515]

First of all a person who goes to school goes to acquire knowledge and how do you acquire this knowledge you listen attentively even if you know you still don't know all,it is true everyone has come here for something but first of all you came to learn as well.
Many newbies rush into posting knowing that the forum does not welcome all kind of posts, in a school when it is exam time you also examine your write up to make sure it gives you mark right? Many newbies don't follow the rules here they only come with the mentality that they want to gain merit and make money and don't reason what they post at all.
There is a thread that says read before you post but many don't read and another says make reading a habit people who have the knowledge of this forum are here before you so while you use a day to walk round the board with seriousness there is no way you won't leave the forum without a knowledge about the forum.

I didn't know anything about Bitcoin until I decided to go into areas I think will benefit my knowledge before I start posting, nobody is oppressing the newbies here but let them take precautions that's all.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

Newbie should be corrected and not to be use to earn merits, most of the top rank members earn most of their merits from attacking and reporting newbie.

Its not an attack, its called discovery, when someone was discovered being a scammer, plagiarist or having any suspicious act that can cause trouble on others, isn't it better to report such person, than when someone like you who is a newbie fall into their trap.

newbies is a person who just started a  particular activity without having full knowledge. Newbies are also called novice, newcomer, beginner.

Everyone was once a newbie before turning to be whom they were today, and there's no any shortcut to that than through learning.

IMPORTANT OF TOP RANK MEMBERS
Before you are been named or given a rank I believe you have pass through many challenges, obstacles before reaching the level you are now. I believe there is a reason why you are at that level. they are vital importance of being a top rank members
1: To guide and not to judge
2: To support
3: To Teach and so many more

have you then discovered anything aside this, if yes please give a reference to that, we are on bitcointalk where everyone is free to talk his own on how he feels.

[Mate2237]

If you were not informed of the dos and don't then as you cane in the first thing to do is to ask questions to know them before doing any other things but as you came you were also interested to acquire merits and rank up and was not interested to ask any question to learn so the attacks also came from that angles so you don't have to blame anyone here but yourself. As you can if you asked questions then people would be interested to help you out from the question you asked.

And also for people to guide you here is also depends on you, the way you present yourself here mend a lot. People are not here to attack but to educate but when you didn't follow the rules then attack must come you have to wear the thick skin to over come the attacks.

[Cookdata]

                 WHAT IS NEWBIES
newbies is a person who just started a  particular activity without having full knowledge. Newbies are also called novice, newcomer, beginner.

You think so of you know so? Not all newbies that has newbie name are actually newbie, not everyone in this forum care about rank or merit, they prefer to have trust than anything related to their account. There are some newbies in reputation that are attack people because they are afraid to lose their main account and such can't be justify with your definition, some newbie are created for trolling and not necessarily for ranking but your definition is cool.

IMPORTANT OF TOP RANK MEMBERS
Before you are been named or given a rank I believe you have pass through many challenges, obstacles before reaching the level you are now. I believe there is a reason why you are at that level. they are vital importance of being a top rank members
1: To guide and not to judge
2: To support
3: To Teach and so many more

I believe that Bitcoin talk forum is a home of knowledge and knowledge is acquired and distributed.
 

You see this forum, be thick and strong then you will know that these you highlighted doesn't need to be here, do your thing and rank up, learn about anything shared here, about Bitcoin and also make sure that you abide by the rules common rules and regulations. I'm general, please don't plagiarize, don't cheat and don't manipulate, that's the easiest way what you wrote above will not work.

[JiiBs]

                 WHAT IS NEWBIES
newbies is a person who just started a  particular activity without having full knowledge. Newbies are also called novice, newcomer, beginner.

IMPORTANT OF TOP RANK MEMBERS
Before you are been named or given a rank I believe you have pass through many challenges, obstacles before reaching the level you are now. I believe there is a reason why you are at that level. they are vital importance of being a top rank members
1: To guide and not to judge
2: To support
3: To Teach and so many more

I believe that Bitcoin talk forum is a home of knowledge and knowledge is acquired and distributed.

Without any clear understanding of what this space is all about yet as I’m relatively new, I think this is the reason why new persons on the platform should be more reluctant on typing upon first appearance of the forum. Even that still, some platforms do require you to make comments within a week of joining and as your time continues to generate traffic for them and in turn make the platform interesting but, this shouldn’t be the reason that you rush into trouble.
In most cases, one who does almost nothing commits no offense.

What should be done rather is asking questions when necessary especially, questions on what’s the most basic rule here and how not to fault them.
That’s in an event that, you don’t take your time, perhaps the first day of your arrival on the forum to research this out yourself. It’s what a smart person would do but,

This is the internet, we’ve got people from different background and culture who chooses to behave just how it’s okay with them and even as you might want to change that, they are out there to change you and the way you perceive these things. When your learning, be ready for a lot of insult and name callings as well, it’s part of the process. Even more so, you just hope to get the answers you need from the other few that cares to offer some solution and you move on. Everyone can’t have same energy and character and that includes you!

[Kelward]

How can you learn in a public forum from experienced people who have different temperaments and expect not to be criticized? It's near impossible, so the best thing is to take everything said to you on advisory level, take the ones that you think will benefit you and simply ignore the negative ones, instead of complaining, afterall you're not paying anyone in the forum to tutor you. I joined this forum without any knowledge of crypto, I had my own fair share of criticism, but i didn't let it bother me, i tried to learn from what I was criticized or attached on, today I've increased my crypto knowledge substantially, and I'm grateful to members in this forum, even those that criticized me helped made me become better.