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January 31, 2024, 10:38:54 PM
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Sincerely speaking I don't really get anything from this post rather it was from the title i tried to understand your point of direction, although from what I understand here you won't expect everyone to be professional posters or quality contributors to the forum there are some people who came to learn here and can barely make good quality post at the process of their learning but when such person has finally got used to the forum I believe that person can post with the ideas and knowledge gained here he can as well distributes to other places or even to help out some newcomers over here. So, you don't expect everyone to act as you or become professionals on what they are doing; I think in life everything has a learning process that is why we have a platform like this to help people and new users interact and shares their feelings and knowledge across the forum all for the general growth of bitcoin.

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February 01, 2024, 01:07:27 AM
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Utilize the search feature on each board to make it easier for us to find what we want. All of us here, from the OP to anyone reading this, want to be good posters with good skills without ignoring things that have a bad impact on us.
A little addition from me, to get better search results, I often use https://ninjastic.space/search as a companion tool when searching on this forum. It can be limited to which boards are desired, and also it displays posts with search results that are easier to understand.

The query that can be input can be in the post body or post title, this is really a tool for detecting material related to the word you are looking for. You can even filter based on username.

It is highly recommended to bookmark the ninjastic.space page as a companion tool for discussions here.
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February 01, 2024, 06:02:38 AM
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 Great post op. You make a fine point and I'm sure this is based on observation. The truth is some of these newbies actually know their onions but find it difficult to put in a way it would make sense hecr you see most of the posts coming out as off point or not making sense. Meanwhile there are the ones who are so eager to make their first post after passing the hurdle of registering that they get overwhelmed and just drop anything assuming that since this is a public space, there won't be any rules. Sometimes I feel it's their need to feel among that makes them do weird things like trying to teach ofmr organize a class on Bitcoin when their rank screams newbie. ( It's not as if one can't learn something from a newbie), but some of them are too hasty and rarely make research, don't know such subjects have been treated here that's why their work often comes out as late, funny or depending on the content, half baked.

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February 01, 2024, 03:37:56 PM
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I do not have any problem and do not see any problem if a newbie teaches me something that I didn't know. For example, let's say I don't know how to use the CPFP feature with my electrum wallet, and suddenly a newbie suggested to me the way I could do it, do you see anything wrong here? I joined this forum in 2022, but that does not mean I didn't know about Bitcoin before 2022.

So, What if I came to this forum and guided a legendary about how he should use a feature of Electrum wallet? Would you ignore my valid suggestions just because my forum rank is newbie? I have created a thread to discuss this thing a few weeks ago and a lot of people agreed with my point.

My bad, newbies might be new in the forum but they might have vast knowledge about Bitcoin or another aspect of the crypto space. Such newbies could be helpful to the forum. Newbies could also ask questions and they will receive good answers from members of the forum. But my point is that sometimes some newbies come up with topics they know little or nothing about. That was why I compared them to new students who should learn more before they start coming up with lecture topics.

I understand your point too. Some newbies create accounts and go ahead and create a thread without checking anything. Either they are just spammers who want to get some attention, or they do not know how the forum works. If a newbie creates a topic and wants to know more about it, there shouldn't be any problem. But I have also seen some random users who create tutorial threads with wrong information. But that is very rare. Not too many newbies create tutorial threads when they need to learn. So, when we refer to newbies, it should not be the forum account rank but it should be the person's knowledge and experience. It could be a crypto newbie, tech newbie, you name it.

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February 03, 2024, 02:02:14 PM
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There is no need to write or express something that is beyond our ability to make it appear to others that we are great while what is conveyed is misleading or substantially wrong.
You do have a valid observation there and that's true. I've come across many like that. They post what is obviously not what they do outside here. They come here to promote and loud Bitcoin as the only coin they can buy and hodl but in reality they also invest in alts. In fact, most of them don't even have any bit of Bitcoin they're hodling. If you asked me I would say it's hypocrisy of a sort. Some give investment and trading advice whereas they don't even know what trading platforms look or feel like.

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It's good you brought that to the fore once again. Sadly, many members don't think that's necessary to do before asking questions that have been repeatedly asked and answered. The search feature should do that magic and prevent needless repetitions of topics.

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February 03, 2024, 03:12:34 PM
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There is no need to write or express something that is beyond our ability to make it appear to others that we are great while what is conveyed is misleading or substantially wrong.
You do have a valid observation there and that's true. I've come across many like that. They post what is obviously not what they do outside here. They come here to promote and loud Bitcoin as the only coin they can buy and hodl but in reality they also invest in alts. In fact, most of them don't even have any bit of Bitcoin they're hodling. If you asked me I would say it's hypocrisy of a sort. Some give investment and trading advice whereas they don't even know what trading platforms look or feel like.

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It's good you brought that to the fore once again. Sadly, many members don't think that's necessary to do before asking questions that have been repeatedly asked and answered. The search feature should do that magic and prevent needless repetitions of topics.

Because I once found a post that was reported because it was wrong about what was conveyed, so the thought came to me to raise it here as a post to remind myself that I have been through times where I didn't know what to do.

I admit that topics like this are recurring topics on beginner boards. After realizing that I had created a topic with questions about wallet security, when beginners come here and ask questions about something they don't know, I don't think it's wrong because they don't know the benefits of the search button.
Every time a new user comes and has only collected 5 posts, he has answered and explained a discussion whose content is wrong regarding what was said, even using tools such as AI to show himself as if he really understands. That's a fact I found.

This is what made me raise this topic. If you feel you are not an expert in a field and people are discussing it, then it is better not to involve yourself in the discussion and choose to follow along while reading the posts of other people who are involved in the discussion there. In this way, beginners can learn and gain new knowledge.

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February 04, 2024, 07:52:00 PM
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Because this forum is the most active discussion space for many of the things raised, I want to say make good use of every discussion. There is no need to write or express something that is beyond our ability to make it appear to others that we are great while what is conveyed is misleading or substantially wrong.

Utilize the search feature on each board to make it easier for us to find what we want. All of us here, from the OP to anyone reading this, want to be good posters with good skills without ignoring things that have a bad impact on us.
I've found many cases of new users like the ones I mean since I've been active. Those of us here have probably discovered it ourselves.
Hopefully it won't happen to us again. Of course, this is not advice or a lecture like in church.

Happy weekend. Hope your days are fun.
It is important to use the forum for constructive discussions and exchange of useful information. Sharing knowledge, supporting each other, and avoiding misleading messages are key elements to a successful and productive community. Thanks for the reminder and have a great weekend too!
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Learn and improve yourself from every discussion you encounter. It’s not that it’s compulsory for you to join in all discussions, but make sure that you are gaining new insights and information from every discussion. You are here not because you want to prove your own beliefs or ideas, but you are here to learn from others words of wisdom and reliable experiences. So don’t waste every opportunity to make yourself acquainted with vital insights and ideas, be the best version of yourself until you can finally say to yourself that you’re becoming an asset in the forum, not just a liability.

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Because this forum is the most active discussion space for many of the things raised, I want to say make good use of every discussion. There is no need to write or express something that is beyond our ability to make it appear to others that we are great while what is conveyed is misleading or substantially wrong.

Have there not been people whom their level of reputable and trust is highly acknowledged by the forum member and later there can a discovery that all they have achieved so far was from a trickish style which we couldn't have identified earlier before time, once you're not been true and sincere to yourself, then you will always get involved in all manners of things that will one day lead to your fall because you can't keep deceiving the whole community for long, one day it will all bursted out and by that time, it would have been a shame and disgrace knowing you're not actually whom you claimed to be.

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February 07, 2024, 11:29:06 PM
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This is a really valid topic because I have been reading the other topics from newbies and I could see mere topics that should be self resolved (that’s not the problem). The most important part is avoiding the creation of a topic that has already been created because then the forum gets flooded with topics that has been asked so many times.  Sometimes you don’t have to use the search feature here on Bitcointalk but the one on your browser too. Just saying.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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February 07, 2024, 11:58:03 PM
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Posting in the forum is not actually hard if you have sufficient amount of knowledge in every topic that you wish to discuss. But for most of newbies nowadays, it’s unfortunate to see them that majority of them are not even aware of what they are talking, or they have ideas but not enough to end up with a quality post. However, there’s always chances to learn and gain knowledge on the different topics in the forum. It only takes a lot of patience and understanding the forum so that you can always share and post relevant information that your co members will surely benefit.

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February 08, 2024, 12:08:47 AM
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There is no need to write or express something that is beyond our ability to make it appear to others that we are great while what is conveyed is misleading or substantially wrong.
This is a lifestyle I’ve had to watch people live physically and on social media like instagrams, TikTok, Facebook, Twitter and some of those other fields but, haven’t been here for weeks no, during and after account creation, I’m yet to see anybody’s face or some form of ID and many other personally portraying character that could make one want to live a life that isn’t original.
So, why would someone do that in discussions?
When you already know or act like you know, how do you truly get to know that which is hoped on…

Didn’t think I would find that here but, it would be really disappointing to not be seen and yet your not free having to discuss freely and truly.
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February 08, 2024, 03:57:01 PM
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Didn’t think I would find that here but, it would be really disappointing to not be seen and yet your not free having to discuss freely and truly.

Good ideas need to be maintained in a free discussion space. Don't understand, ask to find out but don't suggest and advise and explain for the sake of looking like an internet inventor.

Pay attention now to threads that should require precautions in order to maintain good discussion quality, such as in the Bitcoin Discussion thread. They came and showed as if they had very good knowledge of what they wrote regarding Btcoin, even though I also felt that I was not very good at involving myself in the discussions there. But it's about self-recognition of who we are and where we put things that we should do.

We won't be put in prison if we defend our ideas as long as they are useful. Likewise with something that is questionable because it is based on a feeling of not being understood without having to make yourself feel like you understand best.

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Good ideas need to be maintained in a free discussion space. Don't understand, ask to find out but don't suggest and advise and explain for the sake of looking like an internet inventor.

Pay attention now to threads that should require precautions in order to maintain good discussion quality, such as in the Bitcoin Discussion thread. They came and showed as if they had very good knowledge of what they wrote regarding Btcoin, even though I also felt that I was not very good at involving myself in the discussions there. But it's about self-recognition of who we are and where we put things that we should do.
Nobody here knows everything, they need to learn and discuss something relevant. Freedom of speech should not be abused, of course every user should still not post pointless nonsense. Constructive advice is certainly worth considering, but someone who gets advice too often may end up asking for further advice because they feel confused about what to do next.

We won't be put in prison if we defend our ideas as long as they are useful. Likewise with something that is questionable because it is based on a feeling of not being understood without having to make yourself feel like you understand best.
Please defend your idea if you are absolutely sure that you are not wrong. Someone who disagrees with what you say is not completely competing with you, they may have a different perception and a different point of view. Sometimes small things don't need to be debated and if you feel offended by someone because their comments are not constructive, then just ignore them.

Having a strong argument about something you think is right is a good thing, but due to the diversity of ethnicities, nationalities, knowledge, and mindsets, not all users have to agree with you. Stupidity can still be corrected by learning, but the value of a user can be seen from the quality of the discussion.

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February 08, 2024, 08:05:19 PM
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Even the ops have exhibited alot of those characteristics that he explained in his thread because, at some point, you nailed it on the side where you mentioned the importance of making use of the search engine on the forum and how important it is to share only accurate information here in the forum.
Because whatever information we share here is to help members of the forum, and not to confuse them, many times as members of a discussion forum tend to make use of information that we get from each other here in the forum, so ops this thread js a good wake up call for how low-quality many topics and comments that have not to meet the standard and of the discussions that go here innthe forum.

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There is no need to write or express something that is beyond our ability to make it appear to others that we are great while what is conveyed is misleading or substantially wrong.
You do have a valid observation there and that's true. I've come across many like that. They post what is obviously not what they do outside here. They come here to promote and loud Bitcoin as the only coin they can buy and hodl but in reality they also invest in alts. In fact, most of them don't even have any bit of Bitcoin they're hodling. If you asked me I would say it's hypocrisy of a sort. Some give investment and trading advice whereas they don't even know what trading platforms look or feel like.

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It's good you brought that to the fore once again. Sadly, many members don't think that's necessary to do before asking questions that have been repeatedly asked and answered. The search feature should do that magic and prevent needless repetitions of topics.
People have all the choices where to invest but you can really determine a person if he is lying or not because his reasons are just very shallow. When someone says invest in bitcoin and avoid altcoins at all cost, for me that could be hard to do if you are actually a good investor. No one gets to invest and expect immediate profits from bitcoin, of course you have to try out investing in good altcoins as well as they can also be profitable like bitcoin.

When you decide to take risk, then just give it all. If you take risk investing in bitcoin, then most probably you can also do that to altcoins but investing with caution is still highly advisable.

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When you decide to take risk, then just give it all. If you take risk investing in bitcoin, then most probably you can also do that to altcoins but investing with caution is still highly advisable.
Well, it's really up to the person if he/she will invest in Bitcoin alone and not investing in altcoins. It's also not wrong if they advice people not to invest in altcoins maybe because they didn't believe in altcoins that much. It's all about the person they give that advice if they will invest in altcoins or not at all. Let's say that I am adviced not to invest in altcoins and yet I still invest in it which means that the final decision is up to me whether I invest or not.

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Because this forum is the most active discussion space for many of the things raised, I want to say make good use of every discussion. There is no need to write or express something that is beyond our ability to make it appear to others that we are great while what is conveyed is misleading or substantially wrong.
you have to accept it the way it is - people will always find a way to manipulate things that are particularly outta their control... haven't you realized the new ways of of writing already? The AI bot writing - which has escalated over the years now - just a bunch of BS !

There hasn't, and there'll never be a way of submerging the multicellular "human Brain" into a a single code and rips of instructions - cus them bots would never imagine infinity, and they'll only do what you programmed them for - but we all can....  It's pretty obvious when Bs like that are being ctrl C/ctrv V in here.

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February 08, 2024, 10:31:25 PM
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Utilize the search feature on each board to make it easier for us to find what we want. All of us here, from the OP to anyone reading this, want to be good posters with good skills without ignoring things that have a bad impact on us.
I've found many cases of new users like the ones I mean since I've been active. Those of us here have probably discovered it ourselves.
Hopefully it won't happen to us again. Of course, this is not advice or a lecture like in church.

Actually, advising newbies to make use of search features isn't bad but is it all that are aware of how the search option works and it isn't every information they need that can be gotten from searching but rather members of the forum can also offer some help to them I believe that's why this session was made available so that beginners can get any form of help they need here even though the rules, regulations and threads about what they seek to know are already available but it's good to help them whenever they need help rather than scode them because if we don't guide them on how to go then we are not planning to grow here because we grow by lifting others and guilding them till they are conversant and able to also teach other people so don't be tired of assisting newbies here no matter how many times you've answered their questions over and over again.

Before someone can become a good poster, it requires being a good reader and able to understand what a topic being created is all about and giving good ideas and opinion to people who are also willing and ready to learn from you as well.

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Because this forum is the most active discussion space for many of the things raised, I want to say make good use of every discussion. There is no need to write or express something that is beyond our ability to make it appear to others that we are great while what is conveyed is misleading or substantially wrong.
you have to accept it the way it is - people will always find a way to manipulate things that are particularly outta their control.
I almost laughed my guts out when I saw this statement.

It’s just human nature to attempt things. Even when they know it’s likely not going to end well, they hope to bang on the fact that, it’s their first time, forgiveness of noted would be in place but, hope on grace not to be found. I wouldn’t blame anyone for this though, it’s just people leveraging where they are and their amount of freedom. Also, not everyone gets to follow the rules, it’s simple variety in human behavior.

Despite this fact, we still would see those that hopes to try and not stray from presets on a platform and sometimes, they get the rewards that follow.

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