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Indeed. This is why it is important for community members to distrust members and remove them from the trust network that leave bad negative reviews. Just check my negative trust ratings for example, all of those users who have left those lies should be removed from the trust network by anyone in this community who has any honor or sense of decency. Failure to do so only allows people to damage the reputation of honest makers in order to push their scams on the community of members they've befriended, which is exactly what we've been seeing here over the last several years. It's why we keep seeing respectable makers leave here and a majority of new projects end up being scams.
So you are saying we should use your trust list as some sort of basis? That's fuckin' rich. Thanks for the laugh, and nice try to elevate yourself once again. Anyone with half a brain knows you are 1. Shitposting for sats. 2. Trying to persuade people to exclude others (and me?) ... Oh look. Someone else has an opinion/red tag on you too... better distrust them too, I guess. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5330546.msg56800039#msg56800039Yes, you are a perfect example what is wrong with the trust network. You support makers who pull scams and leave negative trust ratings against me who has been trusted with more BTC than anyone else currently active on this forum. I’m really not even sure why you’re so mad at me, but I know I’ve only done positive things for this community.
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I wish everyone on the forum could be friends. This forum is a small world and to have the few of us that even make it here feud with each other over trivial metrics is a shame.
Objectively speaking, we have more in common then differences.
We may disagree on slight minuscule variations of certain details, but these slight differences are what allows the pot to metaphorically boil over.
Imagine how impressive and strong we could be if we came together and focused our energy towards a common good.
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noticed this thread.
Decided to check my items. 3 out of 4 turned to be empty. including the very first products released years ago. then i thought ill start scanning his data base. results so far:
1HoDLCLUB Orange Clay BTC Poker chips (0.0005btc): 72 empty out of 210 1HoDLCLUB Golden Brass BTC Poker Chips (0.0005btc): 52 empty out of 210 1HoDLCLUB Silver BTC Poker chips (0.0025btc) : 14 empty out of 100
CHECK YOUR COINS, THIS MAKER NEVER EVER FUNDED ANY OF HIS PRODUCTS FULLY. i will proceed on the scans whenever i have time
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MoparMiningLLC
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June 11, 2024, 02:59:17 PM |
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one question - when you received your items did you follow up to let him know they were received? He only funded items after they arrived and buyer confirmed receipt.
as for the many items that are not funded - he has explained that this could be items that were never sold.
However, if you did contact him upon receipt and they are not funded - that is a definite issue.
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June 11, 2024, 03:04:57 PM |
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one question - when you received your items did you follow up to let him know they were received? He only funded items after they arrived and buyer confirmed receipt.
as for the many items that are not funded - he has explained that this could be items that were never sold.
However, if you did contact him upon receipt and they are not funded - that is a definite issue.
Most of the items i have has changed hands 3-5 times before came to me. btw, why should i say anything at all? he cant check himself? open tracking, if the item was delivered - load the coin. simple. this "term and condition" keeps his ponzi running. again: CHECK YOUR COINS
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MoparMiningLLC
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June 11, 2024, 03:14:10 PM |
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indeed that is a fair question - it should pass hands only once - from the maker to the buyer and the buyer to confirm with the maker the bar is received. It is well documented that many people never reached out after receiving their items. I did reach out and had issues with my 20 pokerchips with double funding, missed funding and one with a different than published address - he did fund fix it though. and I made out sorta as 2 coins were double funded. I am not attacking or defending anyone here - simply asking if the original buyers ever reached out upon receiving their items - if they did, then it is easy to show/prove that they did and that the coins/items were not funded. Keeps it simple and clear cut.
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June 11, 2024, 03:18:58 PM |
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indeed that is a fair question - it should pass hands only once - from the maker to the buyer and the buyer to confirm with the maker the bar is received. It is well documented that many people never reached out after receiving their items. I did reach out and had issues with my 20 pokerchips with double funding, missed funding and one with a different than published address - he did fund fix it though. and I made out sorta as 2 coins were double funded. I am not attacking or defending anyone here - simply asking if the original buyers ever reached out upon receiving their items - if they did, then it is easy to show/prove that they did and that the coins/items were not funded. Keeps it simple and clear cut. This i a nice excuse for him no to load the coins. Then he say i am busy for the next 7 years and will be back 2031, and what you going to do? i mean common we arent that naive. if someone sold loaded coin - LOAD IT. thats it. i scanned 0.0005 value chips that are OLD chips and 0.0005 btc back then were not much, but he still haven't loaded 72 from 210. it says a lot. i would highly recommend to check your every MrHodlClub coins/bars.
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June 11, 2024, 03:22:57 PM Last edit: June 11, 2024, 03:49:54 PM by StackItUp |
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also, am i right saying that EMAIL VERIFICATION serves as the highest level proof here lol? Let say i would say i asked, and he would say i didnt. lets presume. what would i have to do to gain control of my btc? EMAIL copy or what? :DDD omg i can't believe we talk this to be honest on my moon pass it says "guarantee access to all levels" , except i don't have email approval by some random Joe? i thought all i need was a private key under that holo. lol this is hilarious
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MoparMiningLLC
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June 11, 2024, 03:27:00 PM |
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indeed that is a fair question - it should pass hands only once - from the maker to the buyer and the buyer to confirm with the maker the bar is received. It is well documented that many people never reached out after receiving their items. I did reach out and had issues with my 20 pokerchips with double funding, missed funding and one with a different than published address - he did fund fix it though. and I made out sorta as 2 coins were double funded. I am not attacking or defending anyone here - simply asking if the original buyers ever reached out upon receiving their items - if they did, then it is easy to show/prove that they did and that the coins/items were not funded. Keeps it simple and clear cut. This i a nice excuse for him no to load the coins. Then he say i am busy for the next 7 years and will be back 2031, and what you going to do? i mean common we arent that naive. if someone sold loaded coin - LOAD IT. thats it. i scanned 0.0005 value chips that are OLD chips and 0.0005 btc back then were not much, but he still haven't loaded 72 from 210. it says a lot. i would highly recommend to check your every MrHodlClub coins/bars. There is no excuse to not fund the coins - unless the buyer never reached out. He was clear back then that to get your coins funded, you needed to let him know they were safely received - this was done to avoid losing the funding amount if the coin was lost or stolen - this makes sense. Many people instead received their coins - never reached out and never confirmed if they were loaded. There is no excuse to delay in funding once a customer reaches out though - that I fully do agree with you on. also as stated previously and by him - the majority of "unfunded" are ones reported lost/never received and ones that were never sold. I also agree and recommend to check every coin/bar one has - not just the MrHodlClub ones. and if someone has one that is not funded, then he should fund it upon confirmation of the coins authenticity - ie the address matches his list and shows as never funded - he should then fund immediately. and if buying on secondary market - due diligence is necessary on behalf of the seller and the secondary buyer. This is Bitcoin - Verify always. Again - I am on your side here - if your coins/bars are valid and are matching to his sales lists - and have never been funded, he should fund them immediately.
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June 11, 2024, 03:35:19 PM |
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indeed that is a fair question - it should pass hands only once - from the maker to the buyer and the buyer to confirm with the maker the bar is received. It is well documented that many people never reached out after receiving their items. I did reach out and had issues with my 20 pokerchips with double funding, missed funding and one with a different than published address - he did fund fix it though. and I made out sorta as 2 coins were double funded. I am not attacking or defending anyone here - simply asking if the original buyers ever reached out upon receiving their items - if they did, then it is easy to show/prove that they did and that the coins/items were not funded. Keeps it simple and clear cut. This i a nice excuse for him no to load the coins. Then he say i am busy for the next 7 years and will be back 2031, and what you going to do? i mean common we arent that naive. if someone sold loaded coin - LOAD IT. thats it. i scanned 0.0005 value chips that are OLD chips and 0.0005 btc back then were not much, but he still haven't loaded 72 from 210. it says a lot. i would highly recommend to check your every MrHodlClub coins/bars. There is no excuse to not fund the coins - unless the buyer never reached out. He was clear back then that to get your coins funded, you needed to let him know they were safely received - this was done to avoid losing the funding amount if the coin was lost or stolen - this makes sense. Many people instead received their coins - never reached out and never confirmed if they were loaded. There is no excuse to delay in funding once a customer reaches out though - that I fully do agree with you on. also as stated previously and by him - the majority of "unfunded" are ones reported lost/never received and ones that were never sold. I also agree and recommend to check every coin/bar one has - not just the MrHodlClub ones. and if someone has one that is not funded, then he should fund it upon confirmation of the coins authenticity - ie the address matches his list and shows as never funded - he should then fund immediately. and if buying on secondary market - due diligence is necessary on behalf of the seller and the secondary buyer. This is Bitcoin - Verify always. Again - I am on your side here - if your coins/bars are valid and are matching to his sales lists - and have never been funded, he should fund them immediately. what "his list" has the address on my coin to match? some of the coins do not even have data bases, take 1mBTC 0.001 "euro" coins. there are no address list fot them at all, he can always say "it is not mine" lol. or he can do what ever he wants. coins do not have full address lists or qr codes to read and from first bits we cant do much becaus on the website he says "databases are not updated because he dosnt have pictures of the coins yet" or something like that. this is bullshit. i will not run to this conversation. again, check your coins funding that you have by maker MrHodlClub
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StackItUp
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June 11, 2024, 03:38:31 PM |
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try to verify this coin if it has 0.001 BTC in it based on what you see. this being said i would not recommend anyone to trust MrHodlClub coins to have the funding.
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June 11, 2024, 03:59:16 PM |
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MoparMiningLLC
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June 11, 2024, 04:14:21 PM |
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Nor should they trust it to be funded - or anyones coins to be funded - they should verify.
No one should ever just assume something is funded.
I tried the first bits and got no match on a funded address. Based on the original sales thread the full address is: 1mBTCvmW6z2uXV9HnT8DQrvbEVtnr9EAJ and has never been funded.
Did you buy the coin direct? Did you confirm receipt if so? If bought secondary - did you verify - using first bits if this was verified as one he made and if it was funded?
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June 11, 2024, 04:16:17 PM |
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ran a quick scan, result: 97 out of 210 address'es were never funded Thats almost half
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June 11, 2024, 04:19:34 PM |
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did you verify
did anyone verified? again, why do we talk with you? trying to understand if you have nothing to do or what. i am running scans and getting terrible results. You want to advocate him or what? BTW WHERE I BOUGHT OR WHAT HAVE I DONE IS NOT YOUR BUSINESS. no bad feelings, all good, just saying that i want my coins to be funded as they bought them as funded. where how or when is not a public thing to talk. if you think he is doing a great business then buy his coins and i will go better check if my friends tested their coins already
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June 11, 2024, 04:28:23 PM |
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did you verify
did anyone verified? again, why do we talk with you? trying to understand if you have nothing to do or what. i am running scans and getting terrible results. You want to advocate him or what? BTW WHERE I BOUGHT OR WHAT HAVE I DONE IS NOT YOUR BUSINESS. no bad feelings, all good, just saying that i want my coins to be funded as they bought them as funded. where how or when is not a public thing to talk. if you think he is doing a great business then buy his coins and i will go better check if my friends tested their coins already Another thing to consider- The Fuck Fiat series did not sell out.
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MoparMiningLLC
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June 11, 2024, 04:32:11 PM Last edit: June 11, 2024, 04:52:25 PM by MoparMiningLLC |
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And this is my point - 90% of the coins hes claiming are unfunded are coins that never sold - so they would not be funded. At some point - he destroys the remaining coins.
And yes - all bought coins should be funded.
Also - my point in asking if you were primary or secondary purchaser is if you are secondary who the hell is selling unloaded items as loaded when they never verified the items or did the steps necessary to get them funded.
I am not trying to delve “into your business” simply trying to identify the issue here.
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June 11, 2024, 05:05:08 PM |
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And this is my point - 90% of the coins hes claiming are unfunded are coins that never sold - so they would not be funded. At some point - he destroys the remaining coins.
And yes - all bought coins should be funded.
They should be funded, unless he sent on trust that buyer would send him funding later for funding, could have possible been in the case of a large order. I think Smoothie got burned like this one time, resulting in the one unfunded King set if IIRC.
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MoparMiningLLC
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June 11, 2024, 05:13:31 PM |
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And this is my point - 90% of the coins hes claiming are unfunded are coins that never sold - so they would not be funded. At some point - he destroys the remaining coins.
And yes - all bought coins should be funded.
They should be funded, unless he sent on trust that buyer would send him funding later for funding, could have possible been in the case of a large order. I think Smoothie got burned like this one time, resulting in the one unfunded King set if IIRC. yea i dont recall where the post is, but he (mrcrypthodl) specified he had quite a bit of funding that had been paid to him but never sent to coins because people never confirmed receipt of the coins. I would suggest that some follow up should be done by the maker for sure - you have funding for coin A, coin A was shipped, coin A shows delivered but receiver never let you know? Then follow up - for sure. Then fund the coin. as for smoothies coins - they are all buyer funded - he does not fund a single coin directly. the buyer either funds them before he ships or he ships them unloaded and the buyer funds upon receipt - this typically gets the coins to have the "Buyer Funded" holograms but that is slightly misleading as all coins are buyer funded when it comes to Lealanas.
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