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January 31, 2024, 05:53:49 AM
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My username is Theresa. I registered and played for a while starting from last year, then took a break for some time. Recently, I resumed playing and after a few days, I won approximately 0.13 ETH overall. Withdrawals have been normal, but today I discovered that my account has been locked, and I cannot log in. There is still 0.12 ETH in my account. When I emailed them, they replied that I had registered 15 accounts and refused to allow me to claim the remaining 0.12 ETH. What does it mean to have 15 accounts? What I want to emphasize is that I only have one account and I request them to conduct a review. It's really disgusting that they claim I have 15 accounts. I haven't played on more than 6 online gambling platforms in total.
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January 31, 2024, 06:56:41 AM
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You mean shuffle-com? The one with this ANN thread? Just to be sure, you're accessing through your personal device and internet, not from any PC on internet cafe and the likes, and you never access the site with VPN?

I'll try to notify their representative. Meanwhile, you better edit the opening post with the recommended format and attach some backing evidence.

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January 31, 2024, 07:26:06 AM
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This is the first time I've seen Shuffle complaints but you wrote Shffle so I'm assuming it's Shuffle as @holydarkness pointed out.
I'm a Shuffle player so far haven't had any issues and everything is running normally, but I don't know as you allege with having 15 accounts maybe the casino will review.
Shuffle representative and last active @ndumm yesterday so maybe they can clarify or can also ask Little Mouse for help to get to his team.

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January 31, 2024, 10:05:51 AM
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Hello, I am currently unable to log in to my account and cannot confirm the account balance, which is approximately around 0.12 ETH. The following are the details I received from Shuffle via email.
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January 31, 2024, 01:25:33 PM
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Hello, I am currently unable to log in to my account and cannot confirm the account balance, which is approximately around 0.12 ETH. The following are the details I received from Shuffle via email.
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For privacy reason don’t you think it would have been better if you had blurred out your email address?

Since it’s now know that your email is connected to shuffle.com they might decide to send you a phishing email and there’s a possibility of you falling for it – so just edit the images, blur out the emails -> reupload them and then update the new links here.

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January 31, 2024, 01:33:19 PM
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~snip~

I have only cropped and updated the image above where they said you have multiple accounts. Creating 15 accounts on a casino isn't a normal thing. Most probably they have strong evidences about their claim. Otherwise, they wouldn't say it was your 15th account. According to the terms, they have the right to deduct the funds from a multiple account user.

3.4. You are permitted to have only one Shuffle Account. If you attempt to open more than one Shuffle Account, any and all such accounts may be blocked, suspended or closed, and any sums credited to those accounts will be frozen and may be deducted.

How much have you deposited and withdrawn from Shuffle.com? The casino team will not share the sensitive details here. You may reach to a mediator and ask them to provide the evidences there.

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January 31, 2024, 03:21:56 PM
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I have sent a PM to the forum rep. Let's see what he says.
If you have all these 15 accounts, please stop wastinmg other people's valuable time.

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January 31, 2024, 05:00:59 PM
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Hello, I want to clarify that I only have one account, and I am willing to undergo any authentication verification. Here are my recent deposit and withdrawal records.

ETH deposit of 0.04276084 on January 24th       https://imgur.com/a/a7hz2O4

ETH deposit of 0.0777 on January 26th              https://imgur.com/a/KYUulJ9
ETH deposit of 0.1428822 on January 26th         https://imgur.com/a/m6VPjiZ
ETH deposit of 0.17731758 on January 26th       https://imgur.com/a/prjLCUg
ETH withdrawal of 0.31484588 on January 26th  https://imgur.com/a/xl9E6CL

ETH deposit of 0.10049401 on January 29th       https://imgur.com/a/70QZJyz
ETH deposit of 0.13039841 on January 29th       https://imgur.com/a/hDo3UsC
ETH deposit of 0.12496277 on January 29th       https://imgur.com/a/TnTkBig
ETH withdrawal of 0.3519564 on January 29th    https://imgur.com/a/titYQIT

ETH withdrawal of 0.21629666 on January 30th  https://imgur.com/a/5141R9K

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January 31, 2024, 08:49:09 PM
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Hello, I want to clarify that I only have one account, and I am willing to undergo any authentication verification. Here are my recent deposit and withdrawal records.
You still haven't responded to one of the most pressing question which could help use zero down to what could have been the cause of you getting linked to multiple accounts, that is if you are genuinely innocent.

Did you use a VPN service to register and play on Shuffle.com?
Do you have any family members registered to the same site and using the same internet as you.

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January 31, 2024, 11:53:51 PM
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Since Little Mouse sent a PM to Shuffle's representative on this forum, wait for his reply and you will know the details of what actually happened. And if you break their rules by creating multiple accounts, chances of getting your account back are low. They are accusing you of having 15 accounts on their site, this is a serious allegation. They may have some kind of evidence for this allegation. However, let's see if their rep share any information about this.

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Hey Theresa (or Preston, or any number of the other usernames you use) - I have no intention of doxxing you and your accounts here, so I'm limited in how much I'll share publicly, but so far we have identified an exorbitantly high number of accounts who:

- use the same device and IP
- bet the same markets with the same betting patterns
- KYC with information that is quite obviously not the real account owner's

As per our Terms of Service:

3.4. You are permitted to have only one Shuffle Account. If you attempt to open more than one Shuffle Account, any and all such accounts may be blocked, suspended or closed, and any sums credited to those accounts will be frozen and may be deducted.

As we have mentioned via support previously; if you continue to open accounts, we will continue to close them. We would not do this unless we had evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that these accounts are owned by the same person and are circumventing our Terms of Service. Please stop wasting support and the community's time, you've been warned multiple times.
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Hey Theresa (or Preston, or any number of the other usernames you use) - I have no intention of doxxing you and your accounts here, so I'm limited in how much I'll share publicly, but so far we have identified an exorbitantly high number of accounts who:

- use the same device and IP
- bet the same markets with the same betting patterns
- KYC with information that is quite obviously not the real account owner's

As per our Terms of Service:

3.4. You are permitted to have only one Shuffle Account. If you attempt to open more than one Shuffle Account, any and all such accounts may be blocked, suspended or closed, and any sums credited to those accounts will be frozen and may be deducted.

As we have mentioned via support previously; if you continue to open accounts, we will continue to close them. We would not do this unless we had evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that these accounts are owned by the same person and are circumventing our Terms of Service. Please stop wasting support and the community's time, you've been warned multiple times.

Nice to see you here and explain the actual conditions that occurred. Of course the casino must have gambling activity data for each user, maybe if there is only the same IP, this can happen if we use a public IP when gambling, but when there are similar betting patterns, the casino will consider it suspicious.

I don't know what really happened and if @theresa888 did do that, maybe it's better to just admit it. I also play at shuffle and I have never had any problems and the most impressive thing about shuffle is the speed in deposits and withdrawals.

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February 01, 2024, 02:57:03 AM
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Hello, I am currently unable to log in to my account and cannot confirm the account balance, which is approximately around 0.12 ETH. The following are the details I received from Shuffle via email.
https://imgur.com/a/SotMwbD
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February 01, 2024, 11:58:29 AM
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Nice to see you here and explain the actual conditions that occurred. Of course the casino must have gambling activity data for each user, maybe if there is only the same IP, this can happen if we use a public IP when gambling, but when there are similar betting patterns, the casino will consider it suspicious.

I don't know what really happened and if @theresa888 did do that, maybe it's better to just admit it. I also play at shuffle and I have never had any problems and the most impressive thing about shuffle is the speed in deposits and withdrawals.

Device fingerprints are also a good indicator for detection. Using VPN or dynamic IP might explain --or excuse-- someone from accessing through same IP address, but it's very highly unlikely for different people to happen to share same IP that also share device details.

OP, you have anything to say about this explanation from ndumm?

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February 01, 2024, 01:05:48 PM
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Hello, I want to clarify that I only have one account, and I am willing to undergo any authentication verification. Here are my recent deposit and withdrawal records.
Overall, you are in profit. They haven't confiscated your deposits. According to their reply in this thread, you have used the same device and IP, which is a strong evidence to detect multiple accounts. They aren't going to share any sensitive evidences publicly here. If you still think that their decision was wrong, then reach to a mediator where they will share the evidences.

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Based on the evidence presented, though limited, you are a cheat, and you haven't even bothered to show us why you think you are innocent except demand for what is left in the account. I believe they shouldn't let you withdraw any funds.
You have already abused the casino with multiple accounts, so they are right to block the accounts plus the funds in it. Stop cheating.

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I use a VPN, but my family has never used Shuffle with me; I am the only one using it. How can I prove that I have only one account? What do you think I can do with 15 accounts? 15 accounts? That's a terrifying number. Without any form of identity verification, it's claimed that I have 15 accounts? How do you expect me to prove my innocence? I haven't even had the chance for identity verification, yet I'm accused of having 15 accounts? Anyone receiving such a notification would feel helpless. What exactly did I deceive them about?



Hey Theresa (or Preston, or any number of the other usernames you use) - I have no intention of doxxing you and your accounts here, so I'm limited in how much I'll share publicly, but so far we have identified an exorbitantly high number of accounts who:

- use the same device and IP
- bet the same markets with the same betting patterns
- KYC with information that is quite obviously not the real account owner's

As per our Terms of Service:

3.4. You are permitted to have only one Shuffle Account. If you attempt to open more than one Shuffle Account, any and all such accounts may be blocked, suspended or closed, and any sums credited to those accounts will be frozen and may be deducted.

As we have mentioned via support previously; if you continue to open accounts, we will continue to close them. We would not do this unless we had evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that these accounts are owned by the same person and are circumventing our Terms of Service. Please stop wasting support and the community's time, you've been warned multiple times.

Hello, I only use a phone and a computer. Whether the IPs are the same, I might not be able to know because I use a VPN. Then, the same betting pattern; what do you mean by "same"? If my betting is similar to another player, is that not allowed? If you believe I am cheating in my betting, please state it directly instead of accusing me with such a baseless excuse. Also, you're suggesting that the identity I registered is not genuine? Why are you claiming my identity is not real without even verifying it? I believe there are many shortcomings in how you handle these issues.
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Whether the IPs are the same, I might not be able to know because I use a VPN.
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7.4. Any attempt to conceal your true location through the use of a VPN, proxy, or similar service or through the provision of incorrect or misleading information about your place of residence or location will constitute a breach of these Terms of Service.
Breach of ToS in general.

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Hello, I only use a phone and a computer. Whether the IPs are the same, I might not be able to know because I use a VPN. Then, the same betting pattern; what do you mean by "same"? If my betting is similar to another player, is that not allowed? If you believe I am cheating in my betting, please state it directly instead of accusing me with such a baseless excuse. Also, you're suggesting that the identity I registered is not genuine? Why are you claiming my identity is not real without even verifying it? I believe there are many shortcomings in how you handle these issues.

Even if we suppose you only have one account and the other 14 are not yours, there is still a term being breached: using VPN. And I somewhat doubt that their findings of those connected accounts are baseless and wrong, they tied the IP with device fingerprints, I think they're quite thorough with the investigation.

You can try to escalate this to CasinoGuru or other mediator where Shuffle can share their findings in private, thus validating it, but that'll be just a waste of time if their claim is true and you tried to cheat them, CG's representative can and will verify those findings and ruled in favor of the casino.

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February 02, 2024, 01:58:52 PM
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My username is Theresa. I registered and played for a while starting from last year, then took a break for some time. Recently, I resumed playing and after a few days, I won approximately 0.13 ETH overall. Withdrawals have been normal, but today I discovered that my account has been locked, and I cannot log in. There is still 0.12 ETH in my account. When I emailed them, they replied that I had registered 15 accounts and refused to allow me to claim the remaining 0.12 ETH. What does it mean to have 15 accounts? What I want to emphasize is that I only have one account and I request them to conduct a review. It's really disgusting that they claim I have 15 accounts. I haven't played on more than 6 online gambling platforms in total.

I want to believe that if their system had not discovered it they wouldn't have denied you access to your account, this only shows that you're exposing yourself too much on this that could look suspicious on you, this platforms cannot afford people stealing from them by hacking, cloning and alot of these indiscriminate social activities, avoid using of VPN when on their site, don't clone or make any attempt that may look suspicious on you.

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