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February 01, 2024, 05:28:51 AM
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I think you should definitely check your current residence country laws. If all kinds of gambling is banned in your country it's nearly impossible for you to be safe using online casino. Your account may be revoked easily. Online casinos have many legal obligations and they can't go against those. VPN is only temporary resolution to your issue. Also, its good to ask live support of casino if using vpn is okay through their website. Some casinos don't like it.
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February 01, 2024, 05:45:25 AM
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I think some casinos look the other way when you use VPNs, while they make profit from your account, but as soon as you win something big and you want to withdraw it, they suddenly have issues about it. (Account get red flagged)

Most people use VPNs, because they play from restricted countries or they arbitrage in Sport betting and they do not want their accounts to be red flagged.

In most cases, privacy is just an excuse and people gets burnt when they are caught using it.

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February 01, 2024, 06:07:12 AM
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Example is that gambling is banned in China, but some Chinese are gambling online in foreign countries and also in their country. VPN is used to block the IP used. You will see some gamblers that read the ToS of a gambling site and if VPN is allowed, they might gamble on the site from countries that gambling is not legal. That is just it. This can be common to gambling sites that are not well known and not regulated.
That's also how Chinese still makes money out of gambling by using Macau as a gambling hub for a lot of people. I think that even if the country of origin of the player is from a country that bans gambling, I think that they should still be allowed because they've got the VPN and in argument, they're technically or digitally in their own country gambling so they're technically and digitally allowed to gamble and that they shouldn't be punished at all, it's kind of weird that gambling industry doesn't care about this part when this could potential bring them millions of players from another country that have a strict laws against gambling, some people out there are itching to spend thousands of dollars gambling but they just can't do it because they live in a country that's not in favor of gambling, the online gambling industry is missing out by restricting players that have VPN from playing in their online casinos.



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February 01, 2024, 07:17:51 AM
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There are casinos that prohibit the use of VPNs while there are also casinos that are friendly with VPNs although there are exceptions where it is not recommended.
I always use Cloud WARP VPN, it does not change the IP to another country, it just hides the IP to be vague but still the location where I am, even I myself once KYC at a casino using Cloud WARP VPN, there was never a problem, because if I did not use the VPN, I could not access all crypto casino sites.

My country doesn't allow any gambling, but if it's just entertainment just playing without a lot of money being used, it's not a problem.
Gambling is not only through websites, there are many game applications that provide it, such as Higgs Domino Island with slot games that use chips.
It goes back to the individual again, even though the prohibition is clear in our country, there are still many people gambling, but just for entertainment it doesn't matter, especially if it doesn't make us stressed. Just enjoy it.

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February 01, 2024, 07:33:30 AM
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You need to take note that when a gambling site ban a particular country from gambling in their site it's assume that they don't want to allow that particular residence to gamble over there, but when a particular country is ban their citizens from gambling in any site and, it happens that the some gambling site list that country in their list or even allows any residences from that country to gamble those who are from that country can use vpn to access that site provided that gambling site doesn't restricts those residence from accessing the site through vpn then they are free to gamble. The difference is between the gambling site and country's regulation of gambling in their jurisdiction, is country ban gambling and the gambling site list that particular country then such person can use vpn to access the site.


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February 01, 2024, 09:37:56 AM
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The use of VPN is for the protection of our identity keeping our identity anonymous and IP address to our desired location, some casinos frown at the use of VPN on their site while others accept the use of VPN, the difference is that using VPN from a country that gambling is ban to gamble in a casino that doesn't accept the use of VPN on their site you the gambler risk losing your account at anytime and be rest assured that losing the account is same as forfeiting every cash in the account since it violates the casino's ToS.

If you are a gambler from a gambling ban country what should be expected of you using a VPN to gamble it should be on a gambling site that accept the use of VPN on their site to reduce your risk exposure as someone that is gambling from a gambling ban country. But some casinos that allows the use of VPN still don't allow people from gambling ban countries to make use of their site to avoid sanctions that may arise from the authorities.

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February 01, 2024, 09:58:39 AM
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   Have you ever used a VPN? because here in our country I have a favorite casino to play gambling at, and it is none other than BcGames, so the only sad thing is that I can't create an account on this platform. It seems that his website is blocked here in our country.

   And if their website platform is really blocked here in our country, what good VPN do you think is good to use for someone like me who is in this situation in my country? Thanks for answering if you notice my question.
Before you will use VPN, you need to read about countries the gambling site is not allowing. Example is Bc.game that you mentioned:

5.2. JURISDICTIONS. Persons located in or residents of Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao, Costa Rica, France, Netherlands, Saba, Statia, St Martin, USA (the ”Prohibited Jurisdictions”) are not permitted make use of the Service. For the avoidance of doubt, the foregoing restrictions on engaging in real-money play from Prohibited Jurisdictions applies equally to residents and citizens of other nations while located in a Prohibited Jurisdiction. Any attempt to circumvent the restrictions on play by any persons located in a Prohibited Jurisdiction or Restricted Jurisdiction, is a breach of this Agreement. An attempt at circumvention includes, but is not limited to, manipulating the information used by BC.GAME to identify your location and providing BC.GAME with false or misleading information regarding your location or place of residence.

6. Know your Customer (“KYC”)

BC.GAME reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. BC.GAME reserves the right to restrict service and payment until identity is sufficiently determined.

Make sure that your country is not banned. You know these gambling sites are centralized.

Also make sure the gambling site do not disallow VPN.

If your country is not banned, you can use paid VPN like IPVanish or ExpressVPN. Proton VPN is also good.

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February 01, 2024, 10:08:37 AM
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VPN is something that is popular and widely used, including for gambling. Regardless of privacy issues or access to sites that are prohibited in a country. Regardless of whether a casino's policy allows the use of vpn or not, are there any differences in protection for gamblers when they come from countries where gambling is legal?

Such as protection for gamblers who are cheated by casinos because their games are considered suspicious or because their accounts are blocked unilaterally by the casino. If yes, how do report it? if there isn't then there is no difference between countries that legalize gambling and those that don't

You should read casino's Terms of Service and also ask their Customer Support or representatives on Bitcointalk.org whether it's allowed to use VPN for privacy protection or not. For example, Freebitco.in allows you to use VPN for privacy protection but you should be from a country where its legal for you to access freebitco.in and freebitco.in is allowed to serve you.

I think, the protection for gamblers probably depends on the where casino is registered and regulated. I don't know much about that, better to ask that question in this thread: AMA: I Operate an Online Casino.

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February 01, 2024, 10:13:28 AM
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Hi, guys

Maybe I actually want to ask how do countries that legalize gambling protect gamblers? Does the country have a special institution to regulate gambling? Or does the state legalize gambling just to collect taxes and not pay much attention to legal protection for gamblers? if there is no significant difference then there is no difference from countries that prohibit gambling because VPN can be used to bypass

I think, the protection for gamblers probably depends on the where casino is registered and regulated. I don't know much about that, better to ask that question in this thread: AMA: I Operate an Online Casino.

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VPN is something that is popular and widely used, including for gambling. Regardless of privacy issues or access to sites that are prohibited in a country. Regardless of whether a casino's policy allows the use of vpn or not, are there any differences in protection for gamblers when they come from countries where gambling is legal?

Such as protection for gamblers who are cheated by casinos because their games are considered suspicious or because their accounts are blocked unilaterally by the casino. If yes, how do report it? if there isn't then there is no difference between countries that legalize gambling and those that don't


I guess most people use VPN to bypass the domain ban on their geo-location. Some countries do actively block the domains associated with gambling sites and for those gambling sites that allows users to use VPN, people on those restricted nations can use VPN to change their location as somewhere else.
But many sites don't allow VPN due to the legal reasons and user using VPN are blocked creating a huge number of angry complaints when it's the users that didn't obeyed the terms.
I have also found a few large gamblers who use VPN (on allowed sites) so that no one could track their real identity. This is particular case is in the casino that don't require KYC are on chain.



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February 01, 2024, 02:35:32 PM
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Regardless of whether a casino's policy allows the use of vpn or not, are there any differences in protection for gamblers when they come from countries where gambling is legal?

Speaking to users where gambling is legal, these people used VPN not because of mainly protection but because they just want to hide their IP. There are also countries where gambling is legal but their respective ISPs do not allow connections to gambling sites, therefore, VPN is the only key to bypassing it.

Such as protection for gamblers who are cheated by casinos because their games are considered suspicious or because their accounts are blocked unilaterally by the casino. If yes, how do report it? if there isn't then there is no difference between countries that legalize gambling and those that don't

Not unless you live directly at these casinos' respective main offices, you can report them directly to the authorities at your local. But if you fail to show proof that they are scamming you, the table might be turned around and you will be the one to be sued instead and possibly pay charges.

If want to complain about a gambling site, you can raise awareness at any social media platform or discussion forum.

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For example is that gambling is banned in China, but some Chinese are gambling online in foreign countries and also in their country. VPN is used to block the IP used. You will see some gamblers that read the ToS of a gambling site and if VPN is allowed, they might gamble on the site from countries where gambling is not legal. That is just it. This can be common to gambling sites that are not well known and not regulated.
One of the things that we need to understand with VPN and its usage in casinos is that,  while some casinos may not state it clearly that they disallowed the use of VPN on their site simply because some countries may have banned the citizens unduly and at that will always be fair for the casino to allow VPN on the casino without any penalty to the players who used such tool to gain access.

But in other situations where gambling is banned in a country and at the same time,  the casino has users from that region on the banned list,  it becomes clear that the casino will have to state it clear on the site that VPN usage is not allowed and in such situation,  the gamblers will be ban if he accesses the site via VPN.
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February 01, 2024, 07:37:36 PM
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Hi, guys

Maybe I actually want to ask how do countries that legalize gambling protect gamblers? Does the country have a special institution to regulate gambling? Or does the state legalize gambling just to collect taxes and not pay much attention to legal protection for gamblers?


Talking about protecting gamblers, a country that has not ban gambling but have regulated it, it means they have perhaps licensed gambling companies to operate in their jurisdiction and there must be a way that gamblers have to lay reports against the gambling company if they have issues with them.  

In Nigeria for example when you are talking about offline gaming and gambling, National Lottery Regulatory Commission is in charge and controls the activities of gambling. They can sanction, revoke license or prosecute criminality against the company.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/iclg.com/practice-areas/gambling-laws-and-regulations/nigeria/amp


 if there is no significant difference then there is no difference from countries that prohibit gambling because VPN can be used to bypass.

VPN is mainly used to bypass the countries IP. This may not be an issue if a casino is sincere that they won't penalize when they find that out but for a casino not wanting VPN, at the request of KYC they may block the account.

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February 01, 2024, 08:24:37 PM
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For example is that gambling is banned in China, but some Chinese are gambling online in foreign countries and also in their country. VPN is used to block the IP used. You will see some gamblers that read the ToS of a gambling site and if VPN is allowed, they might gamble on the site from countries where gambling is not legal. That is just it. This can be common to gambling sites that are not well known and not regulated.
One of the things that we need to understand with VPN and its usage in casinos is that,  while some casinos may not state it clearly that they disallowed the use of VPN on their site simply because some countries may have banned the citizens unduly and at that will always be fair for the casino to allow VPN on the casino without any penalty to the players who used such tool to gain access.

But in other situations where gambling is banned in a country and at the same time,  the casino has users from that region on the banned list,  it becomes clear that the casino will have to state it clear on the site that VPN usage is not allowed and in such situation,  the gamblers will be ban if he accesses the site via VPN.
When a platform do make out such blockage then it would really be understandable  that they would really be trying out to avoid those users to play into their platform specially into those countries
which does have that banned gambling or having that restriction. They dont really like for themselves to get tagged or be attached with possible legal problems if ever there would really be some sort
of complaints or whatsoever correlated to it. It is really just that there are people who do really love on accessing these platforms despite of being blocked and this is where VPN would be kicking in.
Usually people really love on playing on a site but due to country restriction and laws then they are really that prohibited.

Each country does have their own regulations on which they would really be trying out their best on blocking out to those who are really that tending to get in.
This is why as a user and using up VPN will really be putting up your account at risks on getting locked or banned.

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VPN is something that is popular and widely used, including for gambling. Regardless of privacy issues or access to sites that are prohibited in a country. Regardless of whether a casino's policy allows the use of vpn or not, are there any differences in protection for gamblers when they come from countries where gambling is legal?

Such as protection for gamblers who are cheated by casinos because their games are considered suspicious or because their accounts are blocked unilaterally by the casino. If yes, how do report it? if there isn't then there is no difference between countries that legalize gambling and those that don't



The VPN was easy to use by the gamblers,but many gamblers use the vpn to use the multiple accounts in the gambling site.But it must be omitted by the gamblers,because it was against the gambling site rule.Some gamblers use the vpn because gambling was the mostly regulated and not able to used in their country.But some bad mined gamblers who want to steal the profits of the other gamblers uses the multiple accounts in the betting to increase the chances of winning the money.

The gambling site will monitor the games of the gamblers and easy to find the people who uses the vpn in their website.Almost all the gamblers uses the vpn can be captured by the gambling site,only it take some time to find them.The gamblers also lose the money in the gambling site after they was founded using the vpn in gambling sites.
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Aside from the privacy I don’t really know what vpn helps you with. Most people that use VPN to access gambling site: which is not advisable ( since you’re sharing ip addresses with several other users that might be connected to that same server).

The only way I see VPN protecting cheaters is still related to privacy since the cheaters can create multiple accounts (for casinos that are against having multiple accounts) and then use VPN to access each of them -making your ip addresses different, that’s the only cheater protection I can think of right now, but the casino system will still be able to detect if the ip keeps on changing they might request for additional verification despite them allowing vpn just to be sure that they aren’t dealing with a cheater.

Maybe you've heard about such a service as browser anti-detection and even system-wide anti-detection? This software is quite expensive, as it allows you to randomize system and browser settings. It is in great demand among cheaters. You are right that many cheaters who use VPNs use them for multi-accounts. Cheaters regularly register on gaming sites by changing their IPs, thereby posing as if they are different people. But by changing only IP addresses, it is now hardly possible to deceive the casino, which monitors every behavior of the player, so cheaters use everything in a set.

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Using VPN to access a casino which is limited to people from your country is one of the highest risk most gamblers do take especially when the casino have warned against that, they might allow you to go home with some little winnings but the moment you have a big win which they can’t allow you go with that’s when you will start having issues, and to start with you are operating their illegally so you don’t even have some right to file any case against them and if your country is also not in support of it you can’t take them their so it’s a complete lose with no one to come to the gamblers rescue at that point in time.

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February 03, 2024, 02:22:30 PM
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VPN is something that is popular and widely used, including for gambling. Regardless of privacy issues or access to sites that are prohibited in a country. Regardless of whether a casino's policy allows the use of vpn or not, are there any differences in protection for gamblers when they come from countries where gambling is legal?


I don’t consider anymore VPN as privacy purposes on casino since most of centralized casino usually apply KYC to those who win frequently with huge amount or simply a profitable gambler. I never encounter a casino with license that doesn’t apply KYC on my case. They all apply KYC once my VIP is high due to my wagering volume.

I believe the only time VPN will protect your privacy is if you are gambler that always lose and a good source of profit by the casino. This is the only account which casino doesn’t bother asking KYC details despite huge money involved.

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February 03, 2024, 02:23:43 PM
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When the casino starts asking KYC the gambler who stays in the country where gambling is illegal will learn the difference. No difference at all and he will be banned instantly when they see the documents he is a national from a country that bans gambling.

But because some casino allows gamblers to withdraw certain amounts without KYC, the VPN users are fine. Once casinos ask KYC regardless of how much you have in the account, I guess users from those countries will start to be lesser and lesser.

I think we have three scenarios here that should be taken into account by the gamblers when it comes to the gambling sites and the VPN usage.

1) If the gambling site prohibits the use of vpn, DO NOT USE VPN

2) If you live in a region where the gambling site is does not allow you to play, DO NOT USE VPNN to bypass the restrictions. As once you are caught the gambling site may block your account without refunding any money in your account.

3)If the gambling site allow the use of VPN and you are not in the restricted country, you may USE VPN to bypass the local ISP detection if your government prohibits the general accessing of all gambling sites.

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February 03, 2024, 02:24:36 PM
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A VPN, or virtual private network, is a very useful thing on the internet. I'm sure many users here have already stated what VPN is used for. It could be used to change your IP, depending on what country you've chosen. And yes, VPN can be used to bypass your IP, so if the casino website doesn't allow a specific country or bans that country from accessing the website, you can bypass it by using VPN and changing your IP and country identity. It may be safe to use as it is a private network, but you still need to be careful because some casinos prohibit the use of VPNs. So before using a VPN, make sure that there are no rules or regulations about the usage of VPNs, or else you will be banned from that website. Also, still add more extra income because even if you use a VPN, there is no guarantee that you will be protected from viruses or malware on the internet.

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