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Question: Can you do it? You cannot do it?
I cannot put a wager against my dearest star player, club and team.
I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team.

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February 03, 2024, 10:43:14 PM
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Sometimes my favorite team is going through a bad period and I feel that they might lose points, but I never bet against them. I don't bet against individual athletes that I like and admire a lot. I guess I am a bit emotional about it. However, there are always many matches to bet on. I don't have only one option. If I rejected one option I might have a regret, but I don't have one option. I have a lot of alternatives and betting on other matches makes me feel more comfortable.
If I see my favorite team in their worse condition and I see it as an opportunity to make some good cash off it trust me I will utilize such opportunity and it still doesn't make me any less of a fan to such team it's just that I need to utilize an opportunity which I didn't fail to at the point when the opportunity did avail it self to me.

Making money off the weakness of your favourite team isn't really a bad idea and it doesn't stop the fact that you are still a loyal fan but then I can loose money knowing too well that they are weak then I bet on them to lose I mean that doesn't make sense except I will rather no gamble but if I must I will against them except I'm in for just entertainment strictly but if I'm hoping ro make money then there will be no need trying to be too fanatic at the expense of your pocket because you may go bankrupt and nobody cares, it will be seen like you just lost your funds to the casino just like that.

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February 03, 2024, 10:48:47 PM
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That's an interesting poll, but I don't believe in the results. You should ask to none/fake gamblers to refrain from participating IMO. Because currently results are 100% for "I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team" and 0% against with 24 voters. While it's pretty well known that most people like betting on their favorite team or player.

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February 03, 2024, 11:22:28 PM
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I'm not one to sentimentalize over parasocial relationships like supporting a team or a certain player. After all at the end of the day unless I out myself as their superfan and I get recognized for it I reckon none of these people would even bother learning about my life let alone grieving for me when I finally die. So I don't really care for betting against my "favorite team". If I realized the opponents could give them a hard time and they could lose the game on a concrete and unbiased basis then I'd see myself betting against them. After all it's not bad to win a few games here and there even when you're gambling for fun. I'd argue that it's even more fulfilling to bet against your favorite team and then be proven wrong afterwards when they win the match. It's going to give you that sense of satisfaction knowing that you shouldn't have doubted them in the first place, or at least that's the case for me. For others this may vary, but the bottomline is that there's no tangible benefit nor harm to betting against your favorite team/player, so why bother going so overboard with fanboying/fangirling that you wouldn't even bet against them when there's good basis to prove it anyway?

I say the only thing you should really care about when you gamble is yourself, and how much you're losing. If you put in even more factors to consider it's just going to complicate things and you'd end up losing more money in the process. Set things straight and make your betting as concise as possible, even if it means "betraying your team" lol.

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February 03, 2024, 11:54:53 PM
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That's an interesting poll, but I don't believe in the results. You should ask to none/fake gamblers to refrain from participating IMO. Because currently results are 100% for "I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team" and 0% against with 24 voters. While it's pretty well known that most people like betting on their favorite team or player.

It's like saying that it's more proud to continue supporting your beloved player or club even though the quality and play of the opponent is better.
If this is just for entertainment and continuing to support players or clubs that will even lose in the end, of course it can be said to be a stupid thing.
Throwing away bets just to watch the losers.

I'd rather skip that bet than have to look at predictable results.
Whichever favorite team plays if it gets a draw opponent maybe it's still a hope to bet.
Betting for profit will be better than betting to see the favorite player beaten.

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February 03, 2024, 11:59:30 PM
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Gambling is all about risk and money. Right? Tell me why you wouldn’t bet against your own team if you see that they won’t make it in the fight they are going into? You just have to be realistic with yourself. If you know that the other team is stronger, you have two options, it’s either you stake against your team or you don’t stake for that game at all. It’ll likely be difficult for you to stake against your own team but it’s just you admitting the truth.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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February 04, 2024, 03:49:28 AM
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As a gambler you should always be willing to go against what your fan conviction tells you. Otherwise you will be guaranteed to lose money in the long run, because bookies will always have a pricing edge on you.

When I see that my team is struggling, I would be the first to lay them, because that's my edge - following one particular team closely. It is incredibly unlikely for the team that you are backing to consistently outperform market expectations.

If you are unable to objectively assess how your team is going, then it's probably best to stay out of betting on that team altogether and move onto other games/sports.
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February 04, 2024, 04:16:53 AM
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When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Sometimes my favorite team is going through a bad period and I feel that they might lose points, but I never bet against them. I don't bet against individual athletes that I like and admire a lot. I guess I am a bit emotional about it. However, there are always many matches to bet on. I don't have only one option. If I rejected one option I might have a regret, but I don't have one option. I have a lot of alternatives and betting on other matches makes me feel more comfortable.
Reading through I can perceive what are emotional gambler you are regarding to your team's or an individual athlete support as a fan. You remind me of a guy I knew in my former location, rather for him to bet against his favourite team he will prefer not to pick that game into his bet slip and till date I wonder the manner of joy he deeives from been so loyal to the extend of not admitting to take advantage of a game he's aware of an imminent loss against his team in his gambling to make money out of it. Just pondering does those stars, teams and clubs knows that there are people like this that exists in their career that will always stick to them even in losing and winning times despite how much money is at risk.
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February 04, 2024, 08:49:46 AM
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Gambling is all about risk and money. Right? Tell me why you wouldn’t bet against your own team if you see that they won’t make it in the fight they are going into? You just have to be realistic with yourself. If you know that the other team is stronger, you have two options, it’s either you stake against your team or you don’t stake for that game at all. It’ll likely be difficult for you to stake against your own team but it’s just you admitting the truth.
Maybe he still felt uncomfortable betting against his team so he didn't place that bet. That is normal because someone who already likes their team will not place a bet against their team as a form of support. It is each person's choice when they see their favourite team compete with the opposing team, but their favourite team does not have a better performance than the opposing team. So he will not place a bet against his favorite team. And if someone bets against their favourite team, they may have different considerations than the previous person. Maybe he wants to win from all the matches he knows so he will place bets to get more money.

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Their is different between being a fans of a team and wanting to place a bet to win, when you want to fans a team you have things which make you chose that over others and that’s it, but when it comes to wagering you don’t need to allow that love you have for your team to blindfold you from the truth about the outcome of a particular game, I have place a bet against a team am so much in love with, but that’s just gambling wager to win and not to support and praise your team if I see my fan club playing against whom I don’t see them winning I bet for them to lose but that does not change the fact that i still fans them and mean well for them.

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February 04, 2024, 10:18:30 AM
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No hard feelings, this is gambling, we bet based on our analyisis, not with our feelings.

I choose his "I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team.".... And honestly, sometimes, I make it a habit to bet on a team that I don't like, because according to my experience and I had analyze it, I won most of the time when I'm betting against the team that I love. I think this is what we called as mind games, oddsmaker knows how people are feeling, and they try to tweak the line so it will become a trap as gamblers who like to bet on their favorite team or player makes easy for them to decide when they bet.

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February 04, 2024, 10:36:26 AM
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If I see my favorite team in their worse condition and I see it as an opportunity to make some good cash off it trust me I will utilize such opportunity and it still doesn't make me any less of a fan to such team it's just that I need to utilize an opportunity which I didn't fail to at the point when the opportunity did avail it self to me.

How do you feel when your team wins even if they are in their worst condition? Happy that your team won or sad that you lost? This can leave a gambler in a state of dilemma where something that is supposed to bring happiness is creating ill feelings. I have been in this position where I placed a bet against my team because at that time my team was on a bad run due to injuries and the team they were up against was a team on a winning streak and even the league table toppers. My team won that match regardless of the bad run and and wasn`t happy because I staked against them. It can be difficult to objectively support your team when you have a financial incentive for them to lose.

Humans are naturally driven by emotions and betting against your team can negatively intensify emotions. If you have staked against your team, you may find yourself hoping for their failure or feeling conflicted about their success. This will take away the enjoyment of watching and supporting your team.



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February 04, 2024, 10:51:58 AM
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You gamble and set bets against any club or favorite fighter, not because you like him or your support him, but you think he will win or that team going to win the match. Betting and being a fan of any sport club, player, horse is something very different as you cannot lose money just because you are a fan.
Anyone betting against his favorite players or team not because he is a less fan than another fan, but it’s his expectation that tells him and his logic before gambling, useless emotions are useless in these cases which can drive you to lose money.

For instance, Real Madrid is playing against a second level league of your hometown team, in this case you know the odds are very against you hometown team as we all know Real Madrid is a very strong team, so are you going to bet against Real Madrid? Just because some emotions? It’s not that you are betraying anything but your pocket.

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February 04, 2024, 10:57:19 AM
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Their is different between being a fans of a team and wanting to place a bet to win, when you want to fans a team you have things which make you chose that over others and that’s it, but when it comes to wagering you don’t need to allow that love you have for your team to blindfold you from the truth about the outcome of a particular game, I have place a bet against a team am so much in love with, but that’s just gambling wager to win and not to support and praise your team if I see my fan club playing against whom I don’t see them winning I bet for them to lose but that does not change the fact that i still fans them and mean well for them.

I agree and even replied that it’s okay to wager against your team if you believe and know that they don’t stand a chance. But think about this, imagine how terrible you’d feel if you wager against your own or favorite team and they end up winning that match Grin
Just thinking out loud because you’d be devastated. But as a gambler, you should see it as a normal loss and that you played your part of following your analysis.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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February 04, 2024, 11:16:48 AM
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For instance, Real Madrid is playing against a second level league of your hometown team, in this case you know the odds are very against you hometown team as we all know Real Madrid is a very strong team, so are you going to bet against Real Madrid? Just because some emotions? It’s not that you are betraying anything but your pocket.
It depends on which league they played, how can a second level league has a match against Real Madrid? Cheesy mostly just a friendly match, it's a match where you don't have to win. Real Madrid could use their second line up because they know your hometown team aren't strong. Upset could happen as the ball is round except Real Madrid play using their best eleven players, the chance to win is almost impossible.

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February 04, 2024, 02:38:58 PM
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You gamble and set bets against any club or favorite fighter, not because you like him or your support him, but you think he will win or that team going to win the match. Betting and being a fan of any sport club, player, horse is something very different as you cannot lose money just because you are a fan.
Anyone betting against his favorite players or team not because he is a less fan than another fan, but it’s his expectation that tells him and his logic before gambling, useless emotions are useless in these cases which can drive you to lose money.

For instance, Real Madrid is playing against a second level league of your hometown team, in this case you know the odds are very against you hometown team as we all know Real Madrid is a very strong team, so are you going to bet against Real Madrid? Just because some emotions? It’s not that you are betraying anything but your pocket.
Though I love my local team, logic wins out over Real Madrid. An admission of reality, not disloyalty. Bet against Real Madrid, fueled by local pride, could be like throwing money away.

Successful betting demands a calm head and unbiased study of chances and probability, in my experience. My heart might race if my hometown team wins an unexpected game. Bets arent only a sign of support. This is a measured risk based on realistic expectations, not wishful thinking. This makes me a sensible fan who appreciates the thrill of the game while respecting betting dynamics.

Talk about fun gambling's essence. Experience the thrill of the unexpected and join a global talent and strategy spectacular. Responsible betting makes sports more fun. Its a personal challenge, assessment of game knowledge, and acceptance of sports' unpredictability. While different, betting and fandom can complement one other in the large, lively world of sports.

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February 04, 2024, 04:51:14 PM
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You gamble and set bets against any club or favorite fighter, not because you like him or your support him, but you think he will win or that team going to win the match. Betting and being a fan of any sport club, player, horse is something very different as you cannot lose money just because you are a fan.
Anyone betting against his favorite players or team not because he is a less fan than another fan, but it’s his expectation that tells him and his logic before gambling, useless emotions are useless in these cases which can drive you to lose money.

For instance, Real Madrid is playing against a second level league of your hometown team, in this case you know the odds are very against you hometown team as we all know Real Madrid is a very strong team, so are you going to bet against Real Madrid? Just because some emotions? It’s not that you are betraying anything but your pocket.
Though I love my local team, logic wins out over Real Madrid. An admission of reality, not disloyalty. Bet against Real Madrid, fueled by local pride, could be like throwing money away.

Successful betting demands a calm head and unbiased study of chances and probability, in my experience. My heart might race if my hometown team wins an unexpected game. Bets arent only a sign of support. This is a measured risk based on realistic expectations, not wishful thinking. This makes me a sensible fan who appreciates the thrill of the game while respecting betting dynamics.

Talk about fun gambling's essence. Experience the thrill of the unexpected and join a global talent and strategy spectacular. Responsible betting makes sports more fun. Its a personal challenge, assessment of game knowledge, and acceptance of sports' unpredictability. While different, betting and fandom can complement one other in the large, lively world of sports.


These types of things happen a lot in football , we are fans and I know that Sometimes things About our teams hurt us, so sometimes we make mistakes , I know that Madrid is a very big team and that they have a good chance of winning For me , Madrid is the best team in the world, until now things are like that, because they are and are fighting a lot for the League , it is Said that Ancelotti also Wants to win the UCL, so things can happen very Differently than those who can be the reality , in the event that Madrid plays against my local team I know and I am Completely right that my team will not be able to do Anything against them and even less so if Madrid's starter plays , if Madrid Knows all its potential I know that my team does not have the players to compete man to man, half the team would need at least 4 players from Madrid and the Rest is left Unguarded and if they do not Take good Care of themselves they will Score, I am you to one Side and bet on the right But why ? because things must always be this Way.

We are not going to lose money just for the love of the Team , Because we have to put logic into things and do them better, when a team plays , let's say the Champion of the World Aagainst my national team, from my national team, then knowing that they are superior to my team, I bet in favor of my team, until the last moment I Defend my team, it doesn't matter if I lose , because it is something that remains in my heart and in my way of seeing the sport , because it is my country, now I do it So, because the country lately in football things are doing very well in Football so they are Capable of doing anything well, that is what I see that can be Done , however we are people who can change other things, there are some Pesoans don't stop at that , they bet on Whoever they think is best to win, even if it's Against their own team , which I don't know whether to Admire them or think who knows what you think of them.

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February 04, 2024, 08:32:43 PM
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For instance, Real Madrid is playing against a second level league of your hometown team, in this case you know the odds are very against you hometown team as we all know Real Madrid is a very strong team, so are you going to bet against Real Madrid? Just because some emotions? It’s not that you are betraying anything but your pocket.
It depends on which league they played, how can a second level league has a match against Real Madrid? Cheesy mostly just a friendly match, it's a match where you don't have to win. Real Madrid could use their second line up because they know your hometown team aren't strong. Upset could happen as the ball is round except Real Madrid play using their best eleven players, the chance to win is almost impossible.

Gx is just giving an example in this case. so if it happens that a strong team is playing opposite on your favourite team, and you know your team is not in the level of the strong team, of course where will you place your bet?
this is why it is understandable based on the results of the poll so far. most betted on the option that they will bet on the opposite team of their favourite. of course, at the end of the day, it is your money at stake and not coming from your favourite team. you may be rooting for them but in terms of financials, you need to be smart on this.

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February 04, 2024, 08:58:37 PM
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For instance, Real Madrid is playing against a second level league of your hometown team, in this case you know the odds are very against you hometown team as we all know Real Madrid is a very strong team, so are you going to bet against Real Madrid? Just because some emotions? It’s not that you are betraying anything but your pocket.
It depends on which league they played, how can a second level league has a match against Real Madrid? Cheesy mostly just a friendly match, it's a match where you don't have to win. Real Madrid could use their second line up because they know your hometown team aren't strong. Upset could happen as the ball is round except Real Madrid play using their best eleven players, the chance to win is almost impossible.

Gx is just giving an example in this case. so if it happens that a strong team is playing opposite on your favourite team, and you know your team is not in the level of the strong team, of course where will you place your bet?
this is why it is understandable based on the results of the poll so far. most betted on the option that they will bet on the opposite team of their favourite. of course, at the end of the day, it is your money at stake and not coming from your favourite team. you may be rooting for them but in terms of financials, you need to be smart on this.

And so far this is the result of the poll

I cannot put a wager against my dearest star player, club and team.   - 0 (0%)
I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team.   - 30 (100%)
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Total Voters: 30

No one's going to throw their money away in the name of loyalty because in gambling there's no such this as blind loyalty. it's different to show support and when you're betting, I also have no problem betting against my favorite team but I'm not going to cheer up anyone of them I'll just go with the flow, and if my favorite got  an upset I will be too happy for them.

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February 04, 2024, 09:08:22 PM
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I like to bet on my favorites, as it makes the mach more exciting, but i definitely can bet against my favorite person / team if i am afraid that they win. I often wanted to do that in elections, because if the person i like loses, at least i am able to cash in and comfort myself with that. I am not that mentally invested to every sport my country men participate. But i have thought betting on opposition when i am afraid my fav loses. And that's not only in sports, but in eurovision, politics, oscars and things like that. Anything i can bet on really. I am not sure how it would be hurting anyone, except maybe nudging the odds with my bet with tiniest possible way.

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February 04, 2024, 09:11:47 PM
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For instance, Real Madrid is playing against a second level league of your hometown team, in this case you know the odds are very against you hometown team as we all know Real Madrid is a very strong team, so are you going to bet against Real Madrid? Just because some emotions? It’s not that you are betraying anything but your pocket.
It depends on which league they played, how can a second level league has a match against Real Madrid? Cheesy mostly just a friendly match, it's a match where you don't have to win. Real Madrid could use their second line up because they know your hometown team aren't strong. Upset could happen as the ball is round except Real Madrid play using their best eleven players, the chance to win is almost impossible.

Gx is just giving an example in this case. so if it happens that a strong team is playing opposite on your favourite team, and you know your team is not in the level of the strong team, of course where will you place your bet?
this is why it is understandable based on the results of the poll so far. most betted on the option that they will bet on the opposite team of their favourite. of course, at the end of the day, it is your money at stake and not coming from your favourite team. you may be rooting for them but in terms of financials, you need to be smart on this.

Many people question this, I think it's quite simple and there may be two choices that gamblers can take if their favorite team is faced with an opponent that is stronger overall and proven by its track record. If I were you or I mean if I were in a situation like that then obviously I would prefer to bet on a team that is indeed much stronger overall even though on the other hand it is not my favorite team, but it doesn't matter because it's like you said that we risk our money and the money is the result of our hard work, therefore I think it is the right choice to take the option that is really more likely and has a greater chance in terms of multiplying, This is where we have to be really wise in making decisions, it is not a problem to occasionally rule out or become a traitor to your favorite team by choosing the opposing team to bet on because what we see here is the opportunity to win for our own interests, but I will not be too pushy for anyone to follow this way because everyone has their own choices.

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