I need a bitcoin tumbler

[tusta]

Hello, I need a reputable and secure bitcoin mixer.

The background is that I am a cryptodad and came across Bitcoin very early through a long and close friend, I have a large wallet that is many years old. The wallet only has incoming transactions but I want to withdraw something for the first time (about 1 or 2 bitcoin) and sell it on an exchange to pay for my children's studies.

I want to use a bitcoin mixer to transfer from my old wallet to a new address and from there to an exchange.

I need the mixer because I want absolutely nobody to know how much bitcoin I have, not even the exchange. Nobody knows how much bitcoin I hold and I have never told anyone. I'm happy with my life and it's just a security for me.

I have also heard that there are malicious groups that analyze the blockchain and try to link wallets to their real owners to sell this data.

Honestly I'm a bit annoyed that I have one big wallet instead of several small ones but I can’t change it anymore.

Of course I did my own research and read that Unijoin and [banned mixer] are the most secure and trusted Bitcoin mixers? Supposedly [banned mixer] is even more secure?

Finally, I would need an explanation of how to use a Bitcoin Mixer safely. It may sound stupid to the experts but I just stumbled upon bitcoin back then.

Have a great day!

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[Charles-Tim]

Of course I did my own research and read that Unijoin and [banned mixer] are the most secure and trusted Bitcoin mixers? Supposedly [banned mixer] is even more secure?

The mixers are still good.

These are their lists: 2023 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites

You can also use the Whirlpool in Sparrow noncustodial wallet.

Recently, similar thread is existing: Best Bitcoin Mixer?

[tusta]

Of course I did my own research and read that Unijoin and [banned mixer] are the most secure and trusted Bitcoin mixers? Supposedly [banned mixer] is even more secure?

The mixers are still good.

These are their lists: 2023 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites

You can also use the Whirlpool in Sparrow noncustodial wallet.

Recently, similar thread is existing: Best Bitcoin Mixer?

Thanks for the quick reply, why was one of the two tumblers censored? Is it no longer good or a rip-off?

[Charles-Tim]

Thanks for the quick reply, why was one of the two tumblers censored? Is it no longer good or a rip-off?

You can read this to know the reason from here: Mixers to be banned

Because mixers are banned to advertise on this forum, that does not mean that they are no more secure. Just use their onion link on Tor browser and mix what you want to mix. Or you can go for coinjoin which are available on wallets like Sparrow and Samourai.

[LoyceV]

I have a large wallet that is many years old.

Before doing anything, make sure you understand what you're doing. People have lost most of their Bitcoin through not understanding change addresses for instance.
I assume you have a cold wallet, don't let your private key touch the internet. Keep it cold.
If you now have all your coins on the same address, you may also want to split your wallet up into different addresses and/or even different wallets. That may make it easier next time you want to sell something.

I want to withdraw something for the first time (about 1 or 2 bitcoin) and sell it on an exchange to pay for my children's studies.

Have you thought about tax implications? Depending on where you live, you may or may not have to pay taxes. Since you're rich in Bitcoin, that shouldn't be a problem. But make sure you can answer their questions once they come knocking.

I want to use a bitcoin mixer to transfer from my old wallet to a new address and from there to an exchange.

If you send 2 Bitcoin from a Bitcoin mixer to an exchange, changes are the exchange is going to ask questions. If you send 2 Bitcoin from an old address, it's obvious you're a long-term holder. But coming from a mixer, they'll be curious about the source of your funds. What are you going to tell them? And how are you going to prove you got them in a honest way?
Once the exchange is happy with your answers and lets you withdraw, your bank will probably ask you where that $85k came from. Again, be prepared to answer their questions.

I need the mixer because I want absolutely nobody to know how much bitcoin I have, not even the exchange. Nobody knows how much bitcoin I hold and I have never told anyone.

The mixer will know! So use Tor and all other precautions.

I have also heard that there are malicious groups that analyze the blockchain and try to link wallets to their real owners to sell this data.

Not only malicious groups, also legal companies do this.

Honestly I'm a bit annoyed that I have one big wallet instead of several small ones but I can’t change it anymore.

What you can do, is make sure you can spend your money legally in the future. Having a pile of money you can't use must be frustrating.
Again depending on where you live, you may not be the first Bitcoin holder who suddenly realizes he's rich, and never reported any of it to taxes. So think carefully about your long-term plan how to enjoy your money.

Finally, I would need an explanation of how to use a Bitcoin Mixer safely.

Sorry, I went outside the box by responding to everything except for your real question I think the mixing part shouldn't be your first concern.

[BlackHatCoiner]

If absolutely nobody must be trusted to know your amount, then mixers are not an option, unless you're willing to trust them this information (and the custody of your coins).

The following two would be my best takes:

- Exchanging BTC for XMR using a decentralized, anonymous exchange like Bisq (or a centralized, but non-KYC like eXch). You could then sell the XMR, and that would reveal absolutely nothing about your bitcoin.
- Mixing using Whirlpool coinjoin. That means, you'll have to install Sparrow wallet (which is a good practice regardless). Check out this: https://sparrowwallet.com/docs/mixing-whirlpool.html.

[Pmalek]

Sadly, the day we could recommend mixers on Bitcointalk are gone. However, we can talk about reliable sites discussing mixing and the theory of it.
Take a look at BitMixList. I just bookmarked it myself a few minutes ago. The website is created by a trusted Bitcointalk user. You will find what you are looking for there.

LoyceV already mentioned, but mixers and popular centralized exchanges aren't exactly friends. More precisely, the information exchanges receive from blockchain analysis companies about coins connected to mixers causes them to sound many alarms. If possible, stay away from CEXs.

Also stay away from Wasabi and their default coordinator that is partnered with a blockchain analysis company interested in de-anonymizing bitcoin transactions.

[bitmover]

I need the mixer because I want absolutely nobody to know how much bitcoin I have, not even the exchange. Nobody knows how much bitcoin I hold and I have never told anyone.

The mixer will know! So use Tor and all other precautions.

I think OP is making simple stuff very complicated and expensive.

I would do this:
1 - get a hardware wallet (or any other 99.99% secure wallet)
2 - created 2-4 address in that wallet.
3 - split  your stash  among those addresses.

If you want to have 2 or several wallets ,just repeated the above with the other wallets.
The more transactions, the better.

Now you have e about 4-10 different addresses with different balances.

Now you can use some mixers in some of yours addresses
 Not all.

You can also go to a good swap service now (such as exch.cx) and convert btc to xmr, or btc to ltc. Then convert them back again to btc (you will probably receive other coins which were not yours)

[AB de Royse777]

I think OP is making simple stuff very complicated and expensive.

I would do this:
1 - get a hardware wallet (or any other 99.99% secure wallet)
2 - created 2-4 address in that wallet.
3 - split  your stash  among those addresses.

Not many people understand how bitcoin works. I don't blame OP. He can even create multi-sig wallet and split the coins to different addresses. Whenever he needs to spend, he can use one address at a time. Send the whole amount to mixer and receive it from the mixer then to exchange.

Hello, I need a reputable and secure bitcoin mixer.

I read all replies and seems that no one mentioned it. Please visit https://www.altcoinstalks.com. There are several mixers advertising on that forum. You can pick one from there. Almost all of them are spending good amount of money to build good reputation and they are doing very well.

[dkbit98]

The wallet only has incoming transactions

Important thing here is to identify how many transactions you received and how many active addresses you have in your wallet.
If you received several transactions on different addresses than you can withdraw just one of them, and you won't have to use any additional privacy tool.

I want absolutely nobody to know how much bitcoin I have, not even the exchange.

Well if you use centralized mixers they will know how much bitcoin you have.
Safest thing you could use right now is Joinmarket with Jam web interface, that is best open source, decentralized and private solution you can use, but it can be a bit complicated to use.

sell it on an exchange to pay for my children's studies.

I would suggest using decentralized exchange if you plan on selling 1 BTC, or centralized exchange can always freeze your coins, say they are blacklisted, connected with theft, and ask for proof of coin ownership, etc.

[Cricktor]

I think OP is making simple stuff very complicated and expensive.

I would do this:
1 - get a hardware wallet (or any other 99.99% secure wallet)
2 - created 2-4 address in that wallet.
3 - split  your stash  among those addresses.

If you want to have 2 or several wallets ,just repeated the above with the other wallets.
The more transactions, the better.

This doesn't hide the near transaction history of user's addresses well enough, if he'd follow your proposed steps, so it would be almost trivial to find out that his fragmented coins originate from a large stash.

A decent hardware wallet is a good start and I'm not talking of Ledger crap here. Because Sparrow has built-in Whirlpool mixing, I'd use this and then sell the mixed coins via Bisq. This may take some time to sell up to two bitcoin as the OP intends, but there's no centralized service able to freeze the coins at will.

[Dont Trust Verify]

Sadly, the day we could recommend mixers on Bitcointalk are gone. However, we can talk about reliable sites discussing mixing and the theory of it.
Take a look at BitMixList. I just bookmarked it myself a few minutes ago. The website is created by a trusted Bitcointalk user. You will find what you are looking for there.

LoyceV already mentioned, but mixers and popular centralized exchanges aren't exactly friends. More precisely, the information exchanges receive from blockchain analysis companies about coins connected to mixers causes them to sound many alarms. If possible, stay away from CEXs.

Also stay away from Wasabi and their default coordinator that is partnered with a blockchain analysis company interested in de-anonymizing bitcoin transactions.

If you can't trust Wasabi then why would you ever trust a custodial mixer which isn't trustless and isn't open source? OP should definitely stay away from anything related to the platform advertised in your signature. All coins passing through Jambler mixers are analyzed for taint, if they're rejected for being too dirty Jambler can decide to keep them.

More than a week has passed since 03.05.2023, but my bitcoins have not returned yet. Terrible service, I do not advise anyone to invest their bitcoins.

With the ability to de-anonymize users by knowing the link between inputs and outputs and without being able to verify their "no logs" claim it isn't advisable to use mixers.

[Pmalek]

All coins passing through Jambler mixers are analyzed for taint, if they're rejected for being too dirty Jambler can decide to keep them.

Jambler is not a mixer, so it's not going to take possession of the coins going through it, as you said. It's a business offering everyone a chance to become a partner or an investor in the mixing business and make some money from it. As an end user of mixing services, you have no contact with Jambler.