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February 02, 2024, 02:45:37 PM
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There's always a person will interested in bankroll investment, the proof if many people still leave their coins in centralized exchanges, it means they don't care with "not your keys, not your coins". But you need to make sure if your casino is trusted and big in the first place, how you can convince other people to invest in your casino when your site looks not capable to grow or sustain.

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February 02, 2024, 02:49:25 PM
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The question is in the subject  Kiss I’m genuinely just curious if people are still interested in this because I believe it’s a good way to “HODL” your bitcoin.
If it is trustworthy casinos and if the casino is having progress and more customers, then it is not bad. In casinos, as people are gambling, they are more likely to lose than win. That is just the fact. From the losses of people, the casino will pay you interests and you will make money from it. If someone can know a new gambling site, it would be good because it will likely be more profitable. But new gambling site are highly risky and it might even end up as scam. It would be good to make enough research before doing something like this.

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February 02, 2024, 02:51:54 PM
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The question is in the subject  Kiss I’m genuinely just curious if people are still interested in this because I believe it’s a good way to “HODL” your bitcoin.

Most of the popular casino nowadays usually have their own private investors that fund their bankroll. Only those small casino relies on public investment model for their bankroll. The thing is big casino nowadays dominates the casino industry that’s why there’s not much room for profit on investing with small casino bankroll.

Blackjack.fun is the only medium size casino that I knew that offers bankroll investment with fixed interest rate but the rest that I know offer profit sharing which is not appetizing on investors eye so I doubt many is still interested on this offer while there’s a lot of DeFi offer a much better profit opportunity with much better transparency and safety.

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February 02, 2024, 03:43:17 PM
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A lot of people were confused by your question, but well I understand a little bit now after seeing some of what they said.

So maybe invest the bankroll offered by the casino is it? If yes then I will not be interested in this kind of investment because there is no confidence where the casino will give rewards especially this casino is relatively new because people may doubt it a lot, so for me to invest with my own control not in a centralized especially offered by the casino.

If I'm not mistaken, the bankroll investment that I know is like Bustadice casino, right?

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February 02, 2024, 03:59:15 PM
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The question is in the subject  Kiss I’m genuinely just curious if people are still interested in this because I believe it’s a good way to “HODL” your bitcoin.

Bitcoin bankrolls are still popular. Any secure investment that gives a good interest on coin of choice are always being looked for by investors. There's no investment safe enough that gives more than 5% for bitcoin and if any reputable casino does provide a stable 10%+ profit on bitcoin, people would be interested.
That can't be said true for some other altcoins as there are different rates different exchange and defi are providing for staking.
Among good bankroll site's I knew and used bustabit and bustadice but the owner had further increased the commission on bankroll profit which might have put the effective yearly earning below 10% according to some bankroll investors.



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February 02, 2024, 04:10:13 PM
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A lot of people were confused by your question, but well I understand a little bit now after seeing some of what they said.

So maybe invest the bankroll offered by the casino is it? If yes then I will not be interested in this kind of investment because there is no confidence where the casino will give rewards especially this casino is relatively new because people may doubt it a lot, so for me to invest with my own control not in a centralized especially offered by the casino.

If I'm not mistaken, the bankroll investment that I know is like Bustadice casino, right?
Basing up into my understanding on what he had said is that he's really that tending to open some bankroll investment on which means that he would be the ones who would be holding up those funds,profit sharing would really be basing up on the time that he would really be making those winning bets or gambling session then this is where profit would be divided up. Just like on what most people been saying on here.
How would someone would really be able to get that assurance that OP wont really be running away those accumulated funds? I do highly agree on what most people been saying on here that
i would rather be playing on my own funds rather than on transferring into other people just because they do believe that they could entrust up their funds and letting others do the play?

Well, if OP could provide out some real time stats then he might really be able convince some people but i do highly doubt that there would really be lots of people or gamblers
would really be trusting up this kind of set up. Just like on what i have said earlier that i would really be preferring on playing on my own funds rather than
on investing into some bankroll.

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February 02, 2024, 04:14:31 PM
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The question is in the subject  Kiss I’m genuinely just curious if people are still interested in this because I believe it’s a good way to “HODL” your bitcoin.

Bitcoin bankrolls are still popular. Any secure investment that gives a good interest on coin of choice are always being looked for by investors. There's no investment safe enough that gives more than 5% for bitcoin and if any reputable casino does provide a stable 10%+ profit on bitcoin, people would be interested.
That can't be said true for some other altcoins as there are different rates different exchange and defi are providing for staking.
Among good bankroll site's I knew and used bustabit and bustadice but the owner had further increased the commission on bankroll profit which might have put the effective yearly earning below 10% according to some bankroll investors.

I'm waiting for you to drop a post here and post this, or lead us to the thread you created three years ago, so since you posted on what you think on the subject I prefer to drop your thread here that you created three years ago I think the list is not updated but yes some casinos offer bankroll investment and these are some of the casinos that offer this, some are out of business some are still there but you will have an idea from now on how they perform in the industry, based on their reputation.

This is an up-to-date list of Gambling sites that accepts (direct) bankroll investment from any users in cryptocurrency. This includes users deposit getting a part of house edge profit. This does not include rakeback or mine while you gamble schemes. .


Name of site          Coins available for investment          Operatings since
Bit-exo.com          BTC, ETH, LTC, DOGE          2016
Bitvest.io          BTC, ETH, BCH, LTC, DOGE       2015
Bustabit.com          BTC       2018*
Bustadice.com          BTC       2017
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February 02, 2024, 04:19:41 PM
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Do you mean holding ones asset through the bankroll in gambling or the earnings you make should be reserved on your bankroll, if you think you can be gambling and be earning through such means then know that this could not be perpetual enough for you to have a steady income flow in gambling, how then can one be able to make use of his bankroll as an investment even when all you could manage do is to use the remaining bankroll to gamble anytime you feels being financial stranded.
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The question is in the subject  Kiss I’m genuinely just curious if people are still interested in this because I believe it’s a good way to “HODL” your bitcoin.

I don't know if I got the question right but I think you are asking to invest your balance in some casino which offer to give you something in return.Unfortunately very few casinos offer such a service now and this must be because of people not being that much interested anymore in such option.

If you want to increase your bankroll there are wallets who offer you staking to your coins and there is no time amount in some of such wallets.
Yeah, it's very rare to see such a feature nowadays and unlike the old ones, they give good numbers to those who invest their cryptocurrencies in online casinos and other gambling sites. Yolodice had that feature before and I found myself investing with them too because of the thread made by one member here who shared how much profit he is making by just investing in them.

Now, because of the growth of different cryptocurrencies, I bet the online gambling sites who offers this service was scared off. I mean, they will be giving away money for that, but if they can handle it all they don't need to so no freebies for anyone.
And, it's not like reputation is that difficult to get. A lot of gambling sites today especially in this forum are reputable ones so trust won't be an issue for them so they don't really need to add that feature anymore just to prove it.

But, I do hope they could come up with this again especially from the popular online gambling sites because there are people who really want to invest in this type rather than gamble their money. It's the best way to accumulate more Bitcoin rather than sticking for the same amount waiting for the pump to come.

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In my opinion, it is much better for a person to keep their bitcoins in their wallet and hold them than to invest in a casino where the profit is very low and the risk of the casino disappearing with your bitcoin is very high. for example, imagine that you invest 1 bitcoin in casino Z and that casino will give you a profit of 3% per year, a year has 12 months, even if your bitcoin is not converted into fiat and the price of bitcoin increases a lot, the The risk of waiting a long time trusting your bitcoin in the casino is a risk that is not worth it, because you are putting 1 bitcoin = $42000 to simply get a 3% profit, think about it, is it worth putting 1 bitcoin in a casino just to win profit as low as 3%? I don't think it's worth taking all that risk

imagine that the casino disappears with all your bitcoin, what would you do? I believe that you will not do anything against the casino and the people behind it, because it is an anonymous casino, with anonymous owners. then your 1 bitcoin will be used by them and you will no longer be able to recover it. That's why it's always important to keep your coins in the wallet where you have control over them. It is much better to be patient and make a profit by doing long-term hodl than taking unnecessary high risks with these investments that give little profit and can disappear at any moment. Nowadays, few casinos still offer this type of investment, to be honest, I haven't seen casinos here on the forum doing this type of thing.

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February 02, 2024, 07:48:38 PM
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The question is in the subject  Kiss I’m genuinely just curious if people are still interested in this because I believe it’s a good way to “HODL” your bitcoin.
AFAIK, there were forum members that have made their own threads tracking their bankroll investments not just for one casino but for several of it. I just can't find them all but I think that if they see this thread, they'll come by and drop their threads. IMHO, there's a little interest now with bankroll investments. But take a look at it like 5+ years ago, there were bunch of us that have shown interest on it and for that reason, many thought that it's one of the best investments. I can't argue with that but as everyone becomes more aware on how to keep their bitcoins safe.

It's just better to keep your bitcoins on your own wallet than put it on a bankroll investment even if you're highly trusting the casino that offers it. Because just as what we're saying with these exchanges, these casinos are not also giving the private keys whenever we deposit bitcoins on them. So, there's no difference at all about keeping it there as a bankroll and the same goes with the exchanges.

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Bankroll investing is a strategy commonly used in the world of gambling and betting, especially in the areas of sports and casino games. This concept can also be applied to financial investments in general. And this refers to the amount of money owned or invested in gambling or betting activities. This may include funds set aside specifically for such purposes. Bankroll management involves managing money wisely to avoid the risk of major losses. This includes setting daily, weekly, or monthly limits, and sticking to them.

A common strategy in bankroll management is to only risk a small portion of the total bankroll on each bet or game. This percentage can vary but is generally recommended not to exceed 1-5% of the bankroll. And patience is key in bankroll investing. Not all bets or games will result in profits, and long-term success requires patience and tolerance for loss.

However, it is important to remember that bankroll investment in a gambling context carries risks, and no strategy guarantees profits. While the concept of bankroll management can help protect against major risks, remain responsible and play wisely.

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February 02, 2024, 09:35:37 PM
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Some casinos have done this kind of thing in the past, I remember seeing a list of them from a while back. But really, are there still casino platforms that offer this form of investment? I mean the old school type of investing directly in their bankroll and earning a commission based on their turnover?

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February 02, 2024, 10:23:19 PM
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The question is in the subject  Kiss I’m genuinely just curious if people are still interested in this because I believe it’s a good way to “HODL” your bitcoin.

Since when has the bankroll investment become a good way to HODL bitcoin?

I think only a few now are interested in bankroll investment since when that was quite popular before, it did not become a big thing as a whole. We can assume that it's not profitable even in the long run even if the house always wins. Most gambling sites nowadays are well capable of running the site operation without offering a bankroll investment,

Not unless the new gambling site offers a bankroll investment, the hype might be built, and maybe others will try to test the waters.
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Now you can invest in liquidity pool like Defi, it's safer than custodial centralized casinos bakroll, because they can't do exit scam and leaving with all the coins borrowed to the investors, or addind suddenly new requirements or restrictions for withdrawing your funds to prevent users claiming their funds. In addition they allow more transparency on the use and evolution of the bankroll by the casinos using the protocol and the liquidity pool.

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After several years lurking in the forum's gambling section, I have never seen a user stating that they have a successful run in bankroll investment. If does, maybe I just missed it but I'm sure there's none. I also remember someone created a thread here to monitor his profit at bankroll investment and the site was popular and famous. It seems that the progress didn't go well.

Maybe the interest is not there anymore, even long before.

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February 02, 2024, 11:39:54 PM
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I think I would be indeed I tested in investing in a casino, to provide to their bankroll. Though, since we are talking about Bitcoin and cryptocurrency casinos, I would feel very worried about the destiny of my money in the long term, to be honest.
It is one thing to invest money in a physical business or keeping money in bank, both if those cases we are talking about examples of entities which are accordingly registered in their jurisdiction and also have headquarters in their country, in the case of banks and investment institutions, they are even secured by some insurance, investing in casinos in the internet is a completely different thing, and I would doubt of any high yield offer I would see. It is just not worth it. It could be a ponzi scheme running in the long term.
Though, If I could find relatively acceptable yields and with a registered casino with a proven track record of years, then I would not mind to give some money to try it for some months.
I have seen one or two casinos before who offered those investing options, but I never considered them to be reputable enough for me to deposit in them, to invest.

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February 02, 2024, 11:44:05 PM
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The question is in the subject  Kiss I’m genuinely just curious if people are still interested in this because I believe it’s a good way to “HODL” your bitcoin.
I don't think casinos still offer this kind of perk to their users and even if they do, it's massively minimal and not something that the users could mistake for being a good way to refill their bankrolls. Sites like betfury in the past where you could go as far as to even stake your money in their site for extra benefits and moolah died down because this system doesn't work for the casino setting, where people are more on the "earn now worry about the risks later" mindset rather than the passive earning disposition. With that being said I think there are upcoming casinos on the market that would offer the same thing but at the same time I wouldn't really count on these sites booming or becoming famous as it's not the flavor of the month anymore. Casinos are places to achieve instant gratification and passively earning your keep not only undermines the operation of the casino, but massively sets a precedent where people could earn from casinos, a massive mistake.

I still think there's a place for this kind of thing outside the casino world though, and honestly I'd argue that you explore that instead of looking for ways to earn money inside the casino cause whatever they give you, they'll be able to take back one way or another.

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February 02, 2024, 11:55:39 PM
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The question is in the subject  Kiss I’m genuinely just curious if people are still interested in this because I believe it’s a good way to “HODL” your bitcoin.

Most sites that offer a bankroll investment feature don't use BITCOIN as a primary token. Usually, it's an altcoin or native token of the platform.

Generally, you will purchase the site's token and that will be used as an investment.

The site's reputation is a big factor here. Always remember one of the famous lines in crypto, NOT YOUR KEYS, NOT YOUR COINS.
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February 03, 2024, 01:33:08 AM
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The question is in the subject  Kiss I’m genuinely just curious if people are still interested in this because I believe it’s a good way to “HODL” your bitcoin.

Most sites that offer a bankroll investment feature don't use BITCOIN as a primary token. Usually, it's an altcoin or native token of the platform.

Generally, you will purchase the site's token and that will be used as an investment.

The site's reputation is a big factor here. Always remember one of the famous lines in crypto, NOT YOUR KEYS, NOT YOUR COINS.

Yes, but there were times that Bitcoin is the only crypto or at least ETH as well as the primary for casino investments. But the landscape has change in the last 5 years or so. Many casinos have their own native token now, some went on a ICO process, died down and accused of being a scam. However, there could still be casinos still managing and accepting investors with their native token and maybe it can still attract investors. Nevertheless, we are getting matured already, it's better for us know to just not take that risk and hold on our crypto, as you have said, the old and still very effective adage of "not your keys, not your coins" remain.

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