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February 03, 2024, 11:59:06 PM
Last edit: February 05, 2024, 05:45:25 PM by AmoreJaz
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From what I am reading, you are not talking about investing in gamblers, or investing in the bankroll of casinos...but you are talking about platforms that are offering an investment, and which you know will eventually scam, to make a profit?

I think this might belong in the investor-based game section as yes in a way it is gambling, but it doesn't quite relate to casinos.

If the strategy is working for you then that is great...though it is dancing with the devil. You are at the mercy of the operator and those who invest as well, and I can only hope that everyone involved has the same mentality as you and that those who are participating are not falling victim to the scam.

OP, What is the platform saying about where investments are going? Is it stating that it's a gambling game, or something else?

that is the dilemma in today's digital age. you can't trust any business to respect what they are promising to their customers. most of the time, you will get rekt into this kind of investment, as they can easily shutdown such service without prior announcement to their clients.
if a casino is offering some kind of investment in their platform, much better to stake your funds in a reputable platform rather than take your chances in a untrustworthy site

Investment is different from gambling. Investment involves allocating money with the expectation of generating income over time. Investment involves the purchase of assets like stocks, bonds, and real estate to achieve long-term growth. With proper market analysis and information, investment can be reliable but then there is no reliability in gambling.

At every point in time, you can not guarantee the outcome of gambling and so there is no gain investing in gambling. Even with in-depth research, the outcome of gambling can not be known. This is because gambling decisions are driven by luck and not informed analysis. When we look at the Ponzi scheme it is a fraudulent investment but the earlier investors are paid to attract other investors and then it closes enriching the schemer.

Even though it is difficult to win in gambling, it is not fraudulent because when you wager and win you get paid, unlike a Ponzi scheme where after putting in the money you end up not getting value for your money.

do consider in investing in the bankroll of the casino. but even on this investment route, you can't also assure you will get your positive share, especially if the casino itself is just barely surviving. and besides, very rare that you can find a casino offering to invest on their vault to get certain profits. i've seen that before in several casinos, but in today's setting, you are lucky to find one casino having such service.

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February 03, 2024, 11:59:23 PM
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I think the largest casinos are starting to be more and more privately funded these days.
The more exciting games and innovative gambling games like slots are usually privately funded, and even the few companies that are publicly listed that offer slots to privately funded casinos, they are becoming monopolized lately. Just look at how many acquisitions Evolution gaming has made. The few competitors they have will either go bankrupt soon or be acquired imho.

So I don't think at the moment it's too much worth it to take up the opportunity to invest in gambling in any of the mainstream ways, unless you have enough money to start a competitive and innovative casino.

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February 03, 2024, 11:59:37 PM
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Investing in the gambling is not easy one,we need to be more dedicated in the game.Because each game is important one in the gambling site,some gamblers will play the game with more strategy.But the gamblers who made the random betting also make the biggest change in the gambling site.The gamblers who want to make the biggest change in the gambling site,should work for the strategy.Because many gamblers was fail to get the strategy for the game.If you can multiple the game money to 10x or 20x using your strategy in the casino,it mean you are ready for the big money win in the gambling site.Just ready money and make big money.
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February 04, 2024, 12:07:42 AM
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The only form of investment I accept, and that isn't actually owning and operating a casino in the first place, is the ownership of tokens crypto casino's offer. Atm, I'm trying to invest as much as I can in FUN, as I do believe GambleFI has tremendous potential to grow during the next few years. I do like to gamble as well, but I always separate my invested tokens from the ones I use to play with. Makes life simpler, and allows me to avoid unnecessary loss 
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February 04, 2024, 01:34:15 AM
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Just because you write the word gambling does not mean that the topic has to be on this board and even less so that it is related to the world of betting.

Clarify your thoughts is my recommendation, then deposit and gambling, please, don't confuse with the phrase "bet what you can afford to lose." This is a very poorly used phrase, it is as if they were telling you to burn your money.

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February 04, 2024, 01:34:49 AM
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You should be aware that Ponzi Schemes will lead you to losses on long run, even though you are being successful on this current endeavour. I believe you are fully excited by this, what will lead you to try repeating the dose once the current scheme crashes down. It's exactly like winning in gambling one: you feel invencible, and wants to keep multiplying your money, so you use your profits to gamble again and again, until you inevitably lose everything you achieved so far, as these aren't sustainable methods of making money.

Be careful to not get hooked on ponzi investments, otherwise they are going to drain all your money. I actually think they can be even worse than getting addicted to gambling, because you may start believing to be possible to analyze when it's safe to invest in a ponzi, although there are never guarantees. The sites can completely disappear at anytime, despite them not being matured yet sometimes. You can even be the first investor of the platform that it won't assure you are going to hit ROI before the pyramid comes crashing down.

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February 04, 2024, 01:47:43 AM
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Investing in gambling is not the most appropriate thing, because there we will experience a lot of problems, both in the short and long term. Usually people who dare to invest in gambling only look at it with one eye, meaning they don't really understand what will happen next with the large risks that may occur and maybe they think that what they are doing will make them lucky. and the majority thought the money would be more. even though what is clear is that the truth is still very doubtful.
If there are people who have already invested in gambling, they should stop immediately, it would be better to invest in a place that is safe and profitable for us in the future, namely investing in property, gold or just saving. .

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February 04, 2024, 10:03:01 AM
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You are investing on a ponzi scheme and that doesn't mean that you are gambling. This is because in gambling luck is involved and when you are lucky you can hit the jackpot, and you will win a huge amount of money, but in this your ponzu scheme, there os no luck attached to it, and it will not last because the moment they see that so many people have deposited their money, waiting for the return, they will click on the exit button.

Another thing is that you wouldn't even know when they will shut down their site, and I believe that for your greed to encourage you to put in that amount of money into the ponzi scheme with two accounts, there is high possibilities that you will increase the amount of money for a higher return, or even create other accounts. The choice id your and it is your funds so enjoy.

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February 04, 2024, 10:27:05 AM
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Investing is different from gambling, because when you invest, you allocate a certain amount of funds to invest in an instrument, whether in the long or short term, and you carry out in-depth analysis of it to get profit opportunities. Meanwhile, gambling is when you risk your money on a game and you only rely on your luck on it to get instant results.

and what you are doing is gambling. You gambled your money on a Ponzi scheme whose future was uncertain, and didn't really expect a return from it, but you were lucky that the money you put there produced a return. I think that you are quite lucky in this regard.
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Reading OPs post... kind of hurts.

Anyway from what I got, this isn't even about gambling (but it is a gamble technically), it's just OP showcasing how he's able to take advantage of whatever Ponzi scam he's talking about. Now far from being about gambling, this is just about investments instead really which btw I don't recommend. It's simply because investments are there to benefit you in the long run most of the time. Instead of wasting your time trying to take advantage of whatever and however you can with ponzi scams, it'd be much better to find a long-term investment that can generate profit for you passively and increase in value in the long run as well.

And if we're comparing gambling and investing, well, it all amounts to risk appetite I guess? I'm more open to risking more in investments since it's, well, investments but with gambling? A clear limit is always set beforehand. Always.

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This can be a mis-perception by many when it comes to investing, and they believed that if there's a risk that can be gambling where in fact they can actually lower that risk to avoid losing that much and to avoid being trap in gambling.

These two is different at all, once you study the fundamentals of investing, I'm sure you can be more confident about it while in the actual gambling activities, regardless of your strategy the risk of losing big is still high and there's no way to lower it not unless you'll stop betting at all.

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Gambling is not an investment. In gambling, you use money and that money can be lost after you finish gambling. Meanwhile, if you choose the right investment program, you can make a profit. Even though there is a risk of losing money, as long as you can get a good investment program, you can prevent that risk.

But if you don't know the investment program or look for more information, you are gambling with the investment. You don't know whether the investment program will generate profits or whether you will experience losses. And you deposit a predetermined amount of money while waiting for the profits to be withdrawn.

But whatever it is, when it comes to your money, you should spend what you can afford. That's to avoid disappointment if you can't get a profit. And when gambling, you also have to use the money you can afford.



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February 04, 2024, 12:33:28 PM
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Now, the platform is programed on daily interests accumulations which can be withdrawn on daily basis depended on individuals decisions.
I already invested $20 on two of my accounts which I have   also made a total of $26 in less than 3 days through the daily withdrawal methods and yet my daily interests keep accumulating and I am up to make more cashouts. Lol.
At this level, I hope if anything compromised maybe they finally hits on the scammed buttons I am of no lost but has profited. So, I awaits them to do their worse. 😆.


You seem to have understood how Ponzi schemes work as the system for the first arrivals and you have analysed it very well to know you will be among those that will profit before even the scheme hits the rock. Yes Ponzi scheme is usually for the early subscribers and there won't be any need to join when the time for the exit scam is already near. You are lucky to have taking out your initial capital and probably some profit so far.

This is the level States of mind this gambling space has inspired and aspired me to risks bearing. By so doing, I undertake this circumstances to be an investment because it has the potential to yield incomes and otherwise, it is accompanied with a gambling system because it comes with some analytical mindsets with indictments of greeds if not in control of your emotions. So, you either not invest with what you can't afford to loose or you faces emotional breakdowns.


I think being a gambler exposes someone to risk taking including to be in a Ponzi scheme even with knowledge of it not that you are deceived into joining it. As a gambler, the target is usually the cashout that matters just like it is expected also in gambling . So a gambler has the courage already for risk taking, he is not scared of risk and understands the need for emotional control and bearing loses. This is why a Ponzi is already known to a gambler as win or lose.

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This can be a mis-perception by many when it comes to investing, and they believed that if there's a risk that can be gambling where in fact they can actually lower that risk to avoid losing that much and to avoid being trap in gambling.

These two is different at all, once you study the fundamentals of investing, I'm sure you can be more confident about it while in the actual gambling activities, regardless of your strategy the risk of losing big is still high and there's no way to lower it not unless you'll stop betting at all.

Perceptions of gambling and investment are very different, of course. And this is often equated because it carries equally high risks. Of course, as you said, investment will be more convincing and profitable if we know and know the realm of investment, unlike gambling, no matter how knowledgeable we are about gambling games, this is only a matter of chance and the risk of loss is still quite large and can cause losses up to loss of funds.

Gambling in investment is just a term due to a lack of confidence or an instrument that is not strong enough so that investment still has a risk of fraud.

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Investing involves some smarts and planning, while gambling is basically throwing darts blindfolded. But hey, I respect your risk-taking spirit! Chasing profits is cool, just remember it's not guaranteed like a government handout. It's more like that crazy startup with the jetpack delivery system – sounds awesome, but could crash and burn faster than a disco ball in a power outage. The key is to be prepared for the bumps and bruises, like having a financial airbag while still aiming for the stars. Do your research, analyze the situation, maybe even get some expert advice – think of it as being a financial ninja navigating the wild world of money.

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February 04, 2024, 02:22:48 PM
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Gambling is not an investment. In gambling, you use money and that money can be lost after you finish gambling. Meanwhile, if you choose the right investment program, you can make a profit. Even though there is a risk of losing money, as long as you can get a good investment program, you can prevent that risk.

But if you don't know the investment program or look for more information, you are gambling with the investment. You don't know whether the investment program will generate profits or whether you will experience losses. And you deposit a predetermined amount of money while waiting for the profits to be withdrawn.

But whatever it is, when it comes to your money, you should spend what you can afford. That's to avoid disappointment if you can't get a profit. And when gambling, you also have to use the money you can afford.
True I think this perception is in agreement because gambling is not an investment so the correct investment is not in gambling but in other sectors with a real program even if it is in digital we can know that bitcoin is a place where to invest so this program will have future benefits.

Now there are many investment programs while believing that assets have value and large capitalists then you will have long-term benefits, investing is always a risk but will not lose all the money or in an instant like gambling even though there are some who offer this but I still doubt it.

We must have the right goals, do not equate investing to gambling for me this is a bit wrong although there are some statements of bankroll investment that casinos offer, but I have never been interested at all.

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February 04, 2024, 02:27:35 PM
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This is my exploit and diverse in gambling of chasing profits.
What is certain is that there are many exploitation methods that people use only for personal gain. Obviously, if you exploit gambling only to seek personal gain, it may be suitable for you but not for other people.

I can't behave exploitatively, regarding investment with gambling, I have a different understanding of all that, gambling has a higher level of risk, but investment is not like that, if you play one game and win $2/day it is not an investment, You are just more focused on luck, the money you save $20 in your gambling account could be gone in a matter of seconds, investment is not like that, investment is not a game.

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February 04, 2024, 02:58:30 PM
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Investing is not gambling. In fact, if we invest carelessly, it is usually called gambling, but not in the true sense but only as a parable. Gambling is a game that involves risking money or something that has value and in reality it is very different from investment, and a ponzi scheme is a fraudulent motive that is usually affiliated with an investment motive, and I do not call it gambling but investment fraud

I never try to deliberately invest in something that will most likely be a scam in the future, but because you are ready for the risk and have good analysis before investing, then this is not a problem. But I like your way of managing risk


Investing can be considered a form of gambling as you are risking your money hoping for a return on your investment, but you are not guaranteed a profit. I know many people who invested and the stock market crashed, they lost their money or at least a good portion of it.

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So you're publicly admitting that you exploited an investment scheme in a casino and made money still you have balance left to withdraw?

I wonder which casino has such poor security system because every casino that is supposed to be reputed will have good security system that won't allow more than one account per user if there is some kind of bonus, rewards, etc. I advise you to read their ToS and don't violate anything and better not to invest any penny into the platform anymore.

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OP, you are totally wrong comparing gambling and investment, they are not just the same thing, not the same view, not the same goal plan and even the modality of operation and structures are never the same thing. What you are thinking wrongly is the risk involvement, fine, the risk is in the two, but not the same level of risk. However, note, that by investment, I do not mean all these hypes and HYIPs, I mean real investment, and when we talk about real investment, you can't appropriately compare/link them to gambling, the risks are different. If one is looking at the HYIPs, for example, the person will make a mistake because most people know that HYIPs will crash soon or later, so anyone who is wise participating in it is actually taking a level of risk which is higher than what we take in the normal and sane investments. But this is still not the same risk in gambling.

It is clear in gambling, it is an immediate condition whether you lose or you gain, and your fate is made known immediately after the game is over. It could now be worse when it is a casino's section of gambling, one cannot use a certain working style to always win but will have to rely on luck. But with the HYIPs you narrated, you need more of smartness and wisdom, not luck to outsmart the brains behind it and get out your money before it crashes. Assuming that it crashes before your face due to your greed, then it could only be that you were not smart with it. To crown it all, in real investment, you allow your money to work for you and give you a return and you do not necessarily lose the money at once, unlike in gambling. If you want, you may still opt out of the investment and keep the rest amount you have after the loss. But in gambling, you are actually betting on that money entirely, and you lose it entirely when you are wrong with the prediction, which makes it riskier.

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