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February 04, 2024, 05:51:03 PM
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does the ponzi platform allow you to see how many participants?  i would be surprised because these scammers are greedy.

i think OP is just playing around though
seeing he is just sending a small amount and he gets back half of his capital in 3 days too. i think it's worth the gamble by the result of it. who knows he could get as much as 10x of his capital before the ponzi finally ponzis.










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February 05, 2024, 06:10:00 AM
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True I think this perception is in agreement because gambling is not an investment so the correct investment is not in gambling but in other sectors with a real program even if it is in digital we can know that bitcoin is a place where to invest so this program will have future benefits.

Now there are many investment programs while believing that assets have value and large capitalists then you will have long-term benefits, investing is always a risk but will not lose all the money or in an instant like gambling even though there are some who offer this but I still doubt it.

We must have the right goals, do not equate investing to gambling for me this is a bit wrong although there are some statements of bankroll investment that casinos offer, but I have never been interested at all.
Bitcoin is an investment that we already know. Gambling is an activity. And those activities require money. But to invest in Bitcoin, it's like we save our money in another form. We will later gain profits when the Bitcoin price increases again and exceeds the last ATH.

Indeed, there are many investment programs out there. But we don't know whether there are investment programs that actually provide profits or not. We have to deposit the Bitcoin or money into the investment program. Meanwhile, there have been many investment programs that ended up being scams and we lost our money.

But if he invests in Bitcoin and keeps it in his own wallet, he will not lose his Bitcoin. And as long as he can store his Bitcoins well, his Bitcoins will be safe and he will not lose his Bitcoins. He can sell his Bitcoins whenever he wants. He can also sell it when the Bitcoin price reaches a new ATH.

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February 05, 2024, 07:02:23 AM
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     -   It is true that gambling has a high risk level, and there is nothing wrong with that because that is the reality that is happening in this era. But I also don't believe that gambling on a casino gambling platform here in cryptocurrency is an investment.

I don't know how it became an investment in the belief of other gamblers, but even so, investment in gambling is far-fetched, and most communities in this field of gambling know it.

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February 05, 2024, 07:02:44 AM
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Theres only one route to invest and thats to own a share of the house.    Sometimes there is a possibility to take royalties possibly but to gamble is to speculate not invest, two different things.   People confuse possibly all three avenues, savings, speculation and invest but they are all different things.   Some people just spend all their available cash as soon as they get it so the rush from having any capital available makes everything seem like an investment in comparison when its not really.  You can invest your time in a subject I guess, study and improve your chances I wont disagree with that much.

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February 05, 2024, 11:09:22 AM
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I understand your point that investments in Ponzi schemes or HYIPs are just like gambling where if you are lucky, you will get your return on investment before the website or platform turns into a scam and if you are unlucky, you will lose your investment. But to be honest, I don't find it ethical because if you don't know let me tell you, the money that you get from them is the money that they collect from other users, and if you manage to get your return of investment, others that invest after you will not be able to do that.

So, you are getting money from other people and not from the pockets of the creators of that platform. When they decide to close shop and run away, they take the money of people that invest at the end and go away, those who invested earlier will get profit or at least return of investment but those who invest later will lose their money.

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February 05, 2024, 12:12:43 PM
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     -   It is true that gambling has a high risk level, and there is nothing wrong with that because that is the reality that is happening in this era. But I also don't believe that gambling on a casino gambling platform here in cryptocurrency is an investment.

I don't know how it became an investment in the belief of other gamblers, but even so, investment in gambling is far-fetched, and most communities in this field of gambling know it.
Well, there was an investment feature in gambling before and it was popular here in this forum. But right now, there are fewer gambling sites that offer this kind of feature and I don't think they yield better than before.

Yes, it is true about the high risks involved in gambling either investment features or gambling itself. We don't know if they are reputable enough to stick with what they promised or they will be gone after they take what they want from the investors.
I've actually made some good money in Bitcoin before in this type of investment.
But there's a difference with what OP had joined. Where I invested is not a Ponzi scheme because it will actually be used for the capital of the gambling site and they are giving away monthly yields from all the profits they made from the gamblers who keep on losing their bets.
I think it's a good option for gamblers especially those who are not large bettors. They want a safer route and I think that is it, the only problem is it's difficult to find a gambling site with enough trust rating so our money is not in jeopardy of being scammed.

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This is the level States of mind this gambling space has inspired and aspired me to risks bearing. By so doing, I undertake this circumstances to be an investment because it has the potential to yield incomes and otherwise, it is accompanied with a gambling system because it comes with some analytical mindsets with indictments of greeds if not in control of your emotions. So, you either not invest with what you can't afford to loose or you faces emotional breakdowns.

This is my exploit and diverse in gambling of chasing profits.

Yeah Ponzi is considered as investment but dumb investment since you are investing on scammer hoping that they will pay you before they shutdown the scheme. This kind of investment is not even worthy to be categorized as risky since it’s an obvious scam scheme so it’s better to threat it as lost investment already.

Your being exposed to risk due to gambling seems like gives you a bad take on how to approach risk. You should avoid extremely ponzi scheme now that you experience gambling risk since you keep losing even if you have a chance to win on gambling while ponzi doesn’t give you any room to profit.

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To reach a level where betting/gambling is an investment, you need to be very good at it. It will be necessary to carry out a very good analysis of the situation, as well as the investments. That's why it's important to know a lot about the subject so that it becomes a true investment.

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Some persons says gambling is not an investment due to its risky levels but a game of entertainment while some persons says investments are likely to be gambling because you don't foresee the future and can't predict the later outcome.
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Investments differ from gambling not in the level of risk or the ability to see the future, but in the fact that gambling is a zero-sum game (unlike investments) here money is only distributed and not earned. In investments, it’s easy to imagine a situation where all investors win, but now try to imagine the same situation in gambling  Wink
As for your participation in the Ponzi scheme, since you understand everything well but decided to take a risk, then you can treat it as entertainment.

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I personally consider it to be a deceitful investment. The reason being, when one chooses to invest in gambling, they are taking a substantial risk and it is not advised as a prudent investment strategy. Unlike traditional investments that involve tangible or financial assets with the potential for steady growth and income, gambling is more speculative in nature and does not assure profits. Furthermore, luck plays a significant role in gambling outcomes and unpredictability is a crucial factor. There is no assurance of making a profit and the possibility of losing money is exceedingly high. Moreover, there is no inherent value or prospect of long-term gain in such an endeavor.

If you ever have the desire to invest, it would be advisable to delve into investment possibilities that are characterized by stability and alignment with your long-term financial aspirations. These could include shares, bonds, or even property. To gain a comprehensive understanding of the investment choices that best match your unique financial circumstances and goals, it is highly recommended to seek guidance from a proficient financial advisor.

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does the ponzi platform allow you to see how many participants?  i would be surprised because these scammers are greedy.

i think OP is just playing around though
seeing he is just sending a small amount and he gets back half of his capital in 3 days too. i think it's worth the gamble by the result of it. who knows he could get as much as 10x of his capital before the ponzi finally ponzis.



I doubt ponzi sites provides a legit stats with their members because they probably faking it if ever they have this feature since their goal is attract as much as possible user that will deposit fresh money that he will use to payout early investors. Ponzi will not run if there’s a continuous flow of cash coming in. They are just starting to run if they are paying more on the passive income of old members than what they are receiving from new deposit.

I remember ponzi doubler by reading this topic. I’m addicted before on risking money on doubler. I manage to double and rollover my funds before but I lose it all in the end after the site runaway on my last try. This scam ponzi scheme is worst and can’t be comto gambling in terms of risk. It’s not gambling.

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February 05, 2024, 04:37:43 PM
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I'm really having trouble understanding your post, OP. If you could just get right to the point, you wouldn't need to use extraneous words to inform us, and we could then respond to your post with a neutral and objective response.
 
All in all, I only know that gambling and investing are not the same thing. From my perspective, when we invest, it is simply the process of assigning resources, usually your money, with the hope of eventually earning financial rewards. Of course, making informed decisions and carefully weighing the associated risks are essential when investing. I believe that investing is typically linked to long-term financial planning and the accumulation of assets.
However, gambling entails taking a financial risk on uncertain results in the hopes of obtaining more money. Usually, as gamblers, we have no control over the outside things that affect the outcome of our bets. The only thing, in my opinion, that the two have in common is that they both entail money, which is natural given that humans are prone to taking risks in order to determine whether they truly change what we do in life.

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Theres only one route to invest and thats to own a share of the house.    Sometimes there is a possibility to take royalties possibly but to gamble is to speculate not invest, two different things.   People confuse possibly all three avenues, savings, speculation and invest but they are all different things.   Some people just spend all their available cash as soon as they get it so the rush from having any capital available makes everything seem like an investment in comparison when its not really.  You can invest your time in a subject I guess, study and improve your chances I wont disagree with that much.

The capital raising is not the easy one for the person to inverse in the gambling or the business.Because he need to use their savings to the game,the trader mostly use to inverse in the gambling site with the person who know more about the gambling site.The gambling site was mostly created by the gambler or it will be created by the developer with the guidelines of the gamblers.The one who know more about the gambling site can create the same gambling site.The gambling investment also made by the gamblers to be a part of the gambling site by holding some investment in that gambling site,because it will create a passive income to the investor of the gambling site.The background study was important before the investment of your money.
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It would be so stupid of me to believe that investing is available in gambling, that's ridiculous, there is no investment in gambling, you are taking risks using your money, there is no stocks or precious stone to buy here and hold for price appreciate in the future.

People need to stop treating gambling as an investment, they are not the same, risk only what you can afford to lose, those who believe that they can make any form of investments from gambling are stupid people, sorry to say, they need to learn the meaning of gambling before calling is an investment.

Gambling can never be a source of income or any investment, you are simply working your way up to disaster, you will end up broke if this is your mindset with gambling, don't do it, risk only what you can afford to lose.

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It would be so stupid of me to believe that investing is available in gambling, that's ridiculous, there is no investment in gambling, you are taking risks using your money, there is no stocks or precious stone to buy here and hold for price appreciate in the future.

People need to stop treating gambling as an investment, they are not the same, risk only what you can afford to lose, those who believe that they can make any form of investments from gambling are stupid people, sorry to say, they need to learn the meaning of gambling before calling is an investment.

Gambling can never be a source of income or any investment, you are simply working your way up to disaster, you will end up broke if this is your mindset with gambling, don't do it, risk only what you can afford to lose.
Investment is only considered on the time that you are really that making some bankroll investment with the house and this is the only way it could be considered to be one but if you are really that still
betting even if it happens to be indirectly then it cant be considered to be an investment but rather its still betting or still doing gambling.

Just like on what most people been saying on here that no one would really be that interested on passing up their funds or money into someone online. We cant just trust no one with the funds
plus there's nothing that could be represented whether that someone who do offers such betting to be that having a good stats when it comes to gambling wins.
It is really just that no one will really be trusting up this kind of set-up but well if there's a way on convincing people then it might be pushed through.

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February 05, 2024, 10:05:13 PM
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You are talking about the general term of gambling and investments (in life). What you are doing is not a gambling (in terms of entertainment) and it's not investment either. It's promoting scams, to scam more people. Imagine you keep depositing and inviting to have your account getting the profit when someone joins and deposited to that ponzi scheme.
In simple terms you are helping that ponzi platform to get rich and make more victim. So stop joining ponzi schemes.

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February 05, 2024, 10:40:55 PM
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Ponzi schemes are out of the league when compared with gambling. If you are to rate gambling and crypto trading, it's understandable based on the risk involved. The forex market can also be added to that category, but you see Ponzi schemes that are pure scams and should not be compared to crypto trading or gambling.
 
It's only those who don't know how Ponzi works that will link the three together. Gambling is risky, and it's fun to play, but if you study the game well and proceed with caution, you can be able to limit the risk you will take in gambling, which is not the same way when it comes to Ponzi. The developers and those scammers will always look for a way to outsmart you using your own greed against you.

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February 06, 2024, 07:06:49 AM
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There are similarities and differences, between risks in investing and gambling. When you gamble, you.. Lose immediately whereas investing involves putting your money at risk with the potential to earn more based on the performance of assets. Some prefer gambling over Ponzi schemes even though both attract people seeking investment opportunities. Both investing and gambling come with their set of risks even if one conducts research and takes necessary precautions.
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Gambling is not an investment; in fact, anyone who claims that gambling is an investment is ignorant of the nature of investments. Unlike gambling, which is simply a game in which you place bets and wager money without knowing if you will win or lose, investing involves researching potential investments and determining whether they are risky or not. Once you make an investment, you anticipate a positive return; while some investments can be riskier than others, making an investment requires careful thought and research.

We shouldn't even compare those two since they are so dissimilar from one another. Gambling is a game that nobody can predict the outcome of, and occasionally we gamble to the point where we nearly lose a lot of our possessions. Did you also know that we spend more money on gambling than it does winnings? However, unlike investments, which you make with some of your own money and eventually gain more from than you initially invested, gambling is, to be honest, purely recreational and reserved for those with the means to do so.

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To reach a level where betting/gambling is an investment, you need to be very good at it. It will be necessary to carry out a very good analysis of the situation, as well as the investments. That's why it's important to know a lot about the subject so that it becomes a true investment.
Gamblers who has become successful in gambling, they consider it as an investment but for those who are unsuccessful it is still a risky wager game. In investment we get assets but with gambling we got this fifty-fifty chances to get a positive shot. 😅



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