Investment in gambling

[danadc]

While investment is a totally different from gambling in the sense that you put your money into something or any business and be expected a profit in return in the nearest future

Generally I would agree but they can be treated similarly in finance since all ventures have risks to capital vs the reward of profitable outcome its surprising how the two may be compared in a variety of ways.   In finance its possible to buy options on an outcome where you either lose that stake or price that varies in likelihood or it pays out on the correct prediction as that outcome came true, that appears alot like a bet in its formulation.    As a consumer you would be taxed as a gambler under those laws equally for a roulette spin or a bet on the closing February price for Gold, this is the case in some countries maybe not the majority but enough that it could be recognized as two industries that converge at times.

I also see investment as something very different from games, I can very well invest and make a good profit, things are different, these two things should not be confused, one thing is investment and another thing is gambling, I I have seen many who invest these concepts and make the investments as if it were a game, that is, they invest in each thing regardless and thinking that it will give them profits, it can be said that it is not the same because it can cause confusion in many people.

What I see in this is that investors are something more delicate because a person who wants to invest in anything, invests a lot of money and in the game and the investment unless they take the Native tokens of a caisnoy and invest, That is what I think can be mixed only and with enormous risk.

[maydna]

I also see investment as something very different from games, I can very well invest and make a good profit, things are different, these two things should not be confused, one thing is investment and another thing is gambling, I I have seen many who invest these concepts and make the investments as if it were a game, that is, they invest in each thing regardless and thinking that it will give them profits, it can be said that it is not the same because it can cause confusion in many people.

What I see in this is that investors are something more delicate because a person who wants to invest in anything, invests a lot of money and in the game and the investment unless they take the Native tokens of a caisnoy and invest, That is what I think can be mixed only and with enormous risk.

Investment is different from gambling or games. If someone wants to invest, he should learn about the investment before choose his investment. If he wants to gamble, he can visit the casino to gamble using some money, but he must strictly spending his money so that he doesn't lose much money. He can lose much money if he gambles without restriction but he can make money from his investments especially if he get the investments that have the potential to provide profits for him in the future.

If the investor willing to learn more about the investment program, he will not find it difficult to start investing. He only needs to use the money he can afford to invest and after that he only needs to wait for the results within a certain period. If he can get a profit from his investment, he can continue his investment or he can look for other investments that can give him more profits.

[LUCKMCFLY]

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What he says is very true, in fact the people who always invest usually have great patience because that is what it is about, having patience to be able to achieve the objectives, in my case I am a person who understands the concept very well, because the investment is put and risk your money, more than anything in the long term, investment for me is that, I have read authors who are of great renown, that some I know like Warren Buffet, Kiyosakli, among others who are people who have a high financial education and They can give us the best investment advice according to what we have chosen, be it a stock or any crypto on the market, generally bitcoin is the safest stock on the crypto market, in this order of ideas for me the investment is It is quite an art, because it is and consists of buying a stock or crypto so that it gives some benefits in the long term, in the short term, depending on how the market moves.

On the other hand, what you say is very good , luck in casinos is usually one of the fundamental factors to be able to generate profits, but it is not something certain, it is not something like an investment, so the concepts are different, for this reason it is You have to consider the pros and cons of the investment and the game.

If I were the pioneer to choose with a considerable amount of money between gambling and investment, I would choose a thousand times the investment, because the casino is that enjoyment, fun and everything based on luck, those things are different in every sense, that is why You cannot mix these types of things, saying that investing in the casino is very bad, because not investing is practically spending with the possibility that your money will be multiplied or everything will be lost.

[Belarge]

While investment is a totally different from gambling in the sense that you put your money into something or any business and be expected a profit in return in the nearest future

Investment are everywhere in the space, we just have to look good enough and feed myself without concerns from anybody. I've never backdown from the hands of becoming more independent in the space. The nearest future is here, none of us will be taking the mine seriously ad they're should, things will start falling apart. It's a good idea to tender investment in gambling system, it's not difficult as it all appears. I'm talking about the online gambling, they're easy to comprehend and statistically satisfy the need of their important clients.

[Gormicsta]

I also see investment as something very different from games, I can very well invest and make a good profit, things are different, these two things should not be confused, one thing is investment and another thing is gambling, I I have seen many who invest these concepts and make the investments as if it were a game, that is, they invest in each thing regardless and thinking that it will give them profits, it can be said that it is not the same because it can cause confusion in many people.

What I see in this is that investors are something more delicate because a person who wants to invest in anything, invests a lot of money and in the game and the investment unless they take the Native tokens of a caisnoy and invest, That is what I think can be mixed only and with enormous risk.

Investment is different from gambling or games. If someone wants to invest, he should learn about the investment before choose his investment. If he wants to gamble, he can visit the casino to gamble using some money, but he must strictly spending his money so that he doesn't lose much money. He can lose much money if he gambles without restriction but he can make money from his investments especially if he get the investments that have the potential to provide profits for him in the future.

If the investor willing to learn more about the investment program, he will not find it difficult to start investing. He only needs to use the money he can afford to invest and after that he only needs to wait for the results within a certain period. If he can get a profit from his investment, he can continue his investment or he can look for other investments that can give him more profits.

Indeed, that's a really important distinction to make between gambling and Investment.
Gambling is mostly a game of chance and luck, where the odds are stacked against the player, because we already know that gambling was designed to always favor the casino more than the gamblers, while Investing is more about making calculated decisions based on research and analysis, in investing, you're guaranteed to make profits along the way, even of you incur a few losses, but gambling is different because winning isn't guaranteed and you even stand a chance of losing all your funds.

[Nrcewker]

Gambling with ponzi Is not gambling Is Just taking a stupid risk. Since these are sites designed to scam people.

Moreover I don't know if we can really talk about an investment with figures like that.
if you had to consider withdrawal, deposit and management costs you would practically have nothing left in your pocket

Absolutely correct. If it’s a ponzi site, then no matter how hard you try to gamble, you won’t be able to surpass it. You won’t be able to cashout the deposit money also. Hence it’s always advised you to gamble in sites which have strong reputation and present in the market for many years. I always don’t recommend to invest in gambling sites also. Yes you can invest in big casinos, but I hardly doubt that they accept investments from the common users.

[Psynthax]

investment and gambling if im being honest just have that really thin line that differentiate each other let us be honest here most of the people that invests in stocks are gambling their money on the future of the company we are talking about this recent histories of many stocks that got up, nobody predicted tesla could be rising so high when it was still a small company making EV right now we see AMD beating intel to a pulp because intel just couldn't produce anything good anymore literally beating intel in every sector from chip for server to desktop gaming but does people from back then know that the CEO lisa su could accomplish such feat? i doubt that other wise the value of the stock would sky rocket within an hour, most people are just gambling with stock they are betting on uncertain future, but with informed decision making like basically its like you are betting on a football club but you know this one specific club has been having high win rate this season alone meaning the odd of winning against a team that probably is having lower win rate would be higher its called informed decision making.

certainly if you think about it from my statement above we can say that there's this thin line that differentiates between the two personally I find them to be the same even more apparent with trading, since its basically just reading candle while im sure that doesn't really work most of the time.

[maydna]

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What he says is very true, in fact the people who always invest usually have great patience because that is what it is about, having patience to be able to achieve the objectives, in my case I am a person who understands the concept very well, because the investment is put and risk your money, more than anything in the long term, investment for me is that, I have read authors who are of great renown, that some I know like Warren Buffet, Kiyosakli, among others who are people who have a high financial education and They can give us the best investment advice according to what we have chosen, be it a stock or any crypto on the market, generally bitcoin is the safest stock on the crypto market, in this order of ideas for me the investment is It is quite an art, because it is and consists of buying a stock or crypto so that it gives some benefits in the long term, in the short term, depending on how the market moves.

On the other hand, what you say is very good , luck in casinos is usually one of the fundamental factors to be able to generate profits, but it is not something certain, it is not something like an investment, so the concepts are different, for this reason it is You have to consider the pros and cons of the investment and the game.

If I were the pioneer to choose with a considerable amount of money between gambling and investment, I would choose a thousand times the investment, because the casino is that enjoyment, fun and everything based on luck, those things are different in every sense, that is why You cannot mix these types of things, saying that investing in the casino is very bad, because not investing is practically spending with the possibility that your money will be multiplied or everything will be lost.

If you already choose investment, you need to learn many things to be a strong-hand investor because not many people can be like that. They can easily get tempt by something that looks interesting and they will joined without research. This makes many people fail to make a big profit from their investment and lose their money because their mistakes. Following those big name in the investment industry can be a motivation for you because they teach many things necessary for new investors or experienced investors so they can strong to hold their investment. But every investment will have its risk so you need to learn how to minimize the risk and not makes you panic when the situation change. Before you invests in anything, you need to research and make sure your choice is right so you know how to use your investment properly.

But if that is an investment in casino, I think it's not easy because we need to research deeper to find the right casino that can gives us profit. You can search the casino that offers people to be their investors so you can get their shared in monthly or yearly. But gambling itself is not an investment and that is different from the investment.

I will also choose investment than gambling, especially investment in bitcoin because I already knew how good bitcoin performance so far. I will prefer to invest my money in bitcoin investment than to playing gambling. But until now, I am playing gambling too besides investing in bitcoin just to enjoy my spare.

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Indeed, that's a really important distinction to make between gambling and Investment.
Gambling is mostly a game of chance and luck, where the odds are stacked against the player, because we already know that gambling was designed to always favor the casino more than the gamblers, while Investing is more about making calculated decisions based on research and analysis, in investing, you're guaranteed to make profits along the way, even of you incur a few losses, but gambling is different because winning isn't guaranteed and you even stand a chance of losing all your funds.

Yes, if people already knows that gambling is a games of chances and luck, they don't needs to take it seriously and only comes to the casino for having fun using some money. They don't have to use more money to chases the win because that can makes a problem for them. Gambling was designed to be for fun and that's why we need to understand that point and that never breaks our limit just to enjoy our time in gambling. Casino will win much money compare to the gamblers so they need to be careful spending their money and not playing gambling excessively. There are no guarantees we can win and we don't know when we can win so why we play gambling for a long time? It's just makes us losing more money.

[pawel7777]

If it’s a ponzi site, then no matter how hard you try to gamble, you won’t be able to surpass it. You won’t be able to cashout the deposit money also.

High-calibre ponzi scams would often allow users to withdraw together with "investment" profit in an early stage of a ponzi life. That's how they lure people in and earn their trust. When seeing very attractive yields, even the dumbest of people will get at least a bit skeptical. So they would test it by making a small deposit, wait a bit to see if they earn a promised return and then attempt to withdraw. When ponzi operators allow such person to withdraw, the new "investor" will now be at ease thinking everything is 100% legit and he will not only deposit again, but very likely, deposit much more than initially and possibly even recommend that amazing investment opportunity to his friends and family.
"Good" scammers know the basics of human psychology and know how to capitalise on it.

I always don’t recommend to invest in gambling sites also. Yes you can invest in big casinos, but I hardly doubt that they accept investments from the common users.

We used to have quite a few dice sites that allowed anyone to invest in the bankroll, but there was a lot of trust involved and I don't think there are many of them left.

[ScamViruS]

I believe that if the betting site is advertising here it is already a very good thing, as in addition to contributing to discussions on the forum they also promote their brand in a healthy way.

Right. Gambling sites also benefit a lot from promoting gambling sites in this forum, by getting feedback from this community. The gambling community can express the good and bad aspects of a gambling site in this forum, and because of these discussions, gamblers can also make an easy decision to select a gambling site. This discussion will continue as more gambling sites come to this forum, and the gambling community can easily connect with gambling sites. Gambling sites are getting good results by advertising in this forum.

[EarnOnVictor]

Some persons says gambling is not an investment due to its risky levels but a game of entertainment while some persons says investments are likely to be gambling because you don't foresee the future and can't predict the later outcome.

We should try as much as possible not to let the sayings of people get to us and not to talk of affecting us, most are not just worth it. We should rather have our own beliefs, but if you are such that is not so smart in thought, I think that a wise mentor or good source of information where you draw your wisdom will be a very good idea instead of letting people's beliefs toss you around.

For me, trading and investment are not the same thing and the reasons are plain. Among the reasons, gambling is an activity that is highly risky in which your entire money committed to it is at the mercy of the outcome at once. This means that you do not have the hope for a gradual increase or reduction of the money over time as prices/rates change, not to mention the retracement, reversal and all that which brings hope to investors. Once you lose the bet in gambling, all your money is gone. This often happens at once and pretty fast regardless of the amount of money you bet it. This is why they rather use wagers in gambling and not in investment.

But in investment, your portfolio could be running for years without ruining your account entirely, and you can't be careless enough to invest in a bad asset. Even if you do, you can still remove most or some of the parts of your money unlike in gambling. A lot of people have made their sustainable income in investment and some rely solely on it for their living. Can you do that in gambling? If investment is known well, it's just like a business, unlike gambling which is solely about betting on your luck in most cases. And don't let people deceive you about the future, you are actually seeing the future with your forecasts when you invest unless you are not a good speculator. If you are good, the speculation can still be more than 90% accurate, which means that you are actually investing in the future.

[Quidat]

I believe that if the betting site is advertising here it is already a very good thing, as in addition to contributing to discussions on the forum they also promote their brand in a healthy way.

Right. Gambling sites also benefit a lot from promoting gambling sites in this forum, by getting feedback from this community. The gambling community can express the good and bad aspects of a gambling site in this forum, and because of these discussions, gamblers can also make an easy decision to select a gambling site. This discussion will continue as more gambling sites come to this forum, and the gambling community can easily connect with gambling sites. Gambling sites are getting good results by advertising in this forum.

When it comes to crypto traffic then we do know that this forum had that so much of it, and as a business owner then it would really be just that normal that you would really be having these kind of considerations when it comes to marketing. You would surely be targeting this forum itself when it comes on seeking with crypto traffic before anything else. Advertisement on this forum
would really be something relevant and does have sense specially if your site is something connected to crypto then it would really be just that a common approach.
In regarding about those kind of pooled betting then i dont see for it to be something an investment because way or form of betting will really be that pertaining to be as a gambler
and not an investor.

[LUCKMCFLY]

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Yes, eventually things can be like that, we as normal people who are in the cryypto environments, where investment exists, the casinos, exchanges, trading, we have to know that it is only what we want to achieve with each of the activities that we e we have available, that is, or we can decide only to do anything, we are people and we must take full advantage of the fact of the knowledge that we have learned from the beginning Until now , we all know in addition that investment is about putting money and expect Benefits, no matter how long it is necessary to wait, you have to wait to do it, otherwise we should not and cannot do more , in this case different ways have to be done to diversify and risk money, some, the more Daring people choose the casino, Because they like the adrenaline, because they are more daring and they are betting in the casino, in their game, others bet or invest in casinos that are made of Tokens , and that is not Bad , the aversion of Tokens is Something that if Necessary.

But the majority or what they think about the future is because they want to have a quiet life, with the things they deserve and those who think like this are undoubtedly why they go for the investment side, the investment will always be safe, but considering that the Things have to be done expecting the benefit, not withdraw our money without first seeing the benefits, the problem with investment is that you have to have the stomach to resist all economic emergencies without resorting to investment money, that is the trick, no There is another but not everyone has that liveliness, or that vision of the market, of crypto and of knowing how to navigate within the world of casinos, those who decide to invest money playing in casinos or even buying tokens, it has not gone well for them, But I have heard a lot about rollbit, which so far is a casino that has proven to be reliable with its tokens, NFTs and more.

[Gormicsta]

Gambling may be very addictive, leading to bankruptcy for some people. So, while gambling and investing share certain characteristics, they are not the same thing. While both require placing money at risk, the objectives of the two activities are rather different. Gambling is all about generating a fast profit, but investing is about accumulating long-term prosperity. So I don't believe it's fair to compare the two as if they're the same thing. So, I believe it is critical to realize the particular hazards of gambling and to exercise caution when using the term "investment" to characterize it, so people who see gambling as a kind of enjoyment should play responsibly.

[Zigabel]

While investment is a totally different from gambling in the sense that you put your money into something or any business and be expected a profit in return in the nearest future

Investment are everywhere in the space, we just have to look good enough and feed myself without concerns from anybody. I've never backdown from the hands of becoming more independent in the space. The nearest future is here, none of us will be taking the mine seriously ad they're should, things will start falling apart. It's a good idea to tender investment in gambling system, it's not difficult as it all appears. I'm talking about the online gambling, they're easy to comprehend and statistically satisfy the need of their important clients.

Investment in gambling isn't about been actively gambling online as that isn't guarantee of giving you the kind of returns rather you still stand the risk a regular gamblers has got and that's actually not investing but gambling actually so I'd you want to invest in gambling it should be such that you will be making profit more often than losses and not such that you will be loosing more than you profit that's not investing that's rather still gambling as we know it to be and not investing.

Investing in gambling could be owning a casino either offline or online, partnering with a casinos both offline or online too you may actually not be actively gambling and still be making profits off the gambling system because that's actually the investment which you have done already with the site and the platform or the partnership where you get a certain percentage either daily, weekly, monthly annually or as the case may be.

[junder]

Investment in gambling isn't about been actively gambling online as that isn't guarantee of giving you the kind of returns rather you still stand the risk a regular gamblers has got and that's actually not investing but gambling actually so I'd you want to invest in gambling it should be such that you will be making profit more often than losses and not such that you will be loosing more than you profit that's not investing that's rather still gambling as we know it to be and not investing.

Investing in gambling could be owning a casino either offline or online, partnering with a casinos both offline or online too you may actually not be actively gambling and still be making profits off the gambling system because that's actually the investment which you have done already with the site and the platform or the partnership where you get a certain percentage either daily, weekly, monthly annually or as the case may be.

In my opinion, there is no investment in gambling if we only act as gambling players, unless we help fund a casino company, maybe that could be said to be an investment in gambling. The ridiculous thing I once heard from a gambling player was when he experienced losses which were more often obtained by the gambling he did, he thought he was investing because later there would be a win which would be the same as a profit, in my opinion that was ridiculous. I admit that in gambling there is a chance to win, but this is not certain, and even if I win at gambling, I don't think it will be able to cover the number of losses that have already occurred.

Well, that makes sense, if we actually have funds that are stored in a casino company in the sense that as I said above, helping to fund the casino company can be said to be an investment, because the profits have big opportunities and the timing can also be determined with certainty. I agree with you, with what you say it is possible that we are not actually actively gambling and are still making a profit from the gambling system because that is the investment you have made with the casino. that's what is called investment.

[Natalim]

While investment is a totally different from gambling in the sense that you put your money into something or any business and be expected a profit in return in the nearest future

Investment are everywhere in the space, we just have to look good enough and feed myself without concerns from anybody. I've never backdown from the hands of becoming more independent in the space. The nearest future is here, none of us will be taking the mine seriously ad they're should, things will start falling apart. It's a good idea to tender investment in gambling system, it's not difficult as it all appears. I'm talking about the online gambling, they're easy to comprehend and statistically satisfy the need of their important clients.

Investment in gambling isn't about been actively gambling online as that isn't guarantee of giving you the kind of returns rather you still stand the risk a regular gamblers has got and that's actually not investing but gambling actually so I'd you want to invest in gambling it should be such that you will be making profit more often than losses and not such that you will be loosing more than you profit that's not investing that's rather still gambling as we know it to be and not investing.

Investing in gambling could be owning a casino either offline or online, partnering with a casinos both offline or online too you may actually not be actively gambling and still be making profits off the gambling system because that's actually the investment which you have done already with the site and the platform or the partnership where you get a certain percentage either daily, weekly, monthly annually or as the case may be.

Regardless on how you explain investment in gambling, the key points there is to be profitable. Best way is to start a casino, or be one of the investors as most likely casinos will be profitable as long as it's run effectively.With their house edge,  that's the factor that will remain and no one could beat a casino in the long run since they are in control of the system, gamblers can chase losses but casinos always has the right to limit bets to ensure they will remain profitable at the end of the day.

Other is investing on your skills. Like poker or sports betting, if you got skills that will generate money for you, some may call it gambling because they are not consistent, but you got skills you can call it like investing on yourself.

[FinePoine0]

Gambling may be very addictive, leading to bankruptcy for some people. So, while gambling and investing share certain characteristics, they are not the same thing. While both require placing money at risk, the objectives of the two activities are rather different. Gambling is all about generating a fast profit, but investing is about accumulating long-term prosperity. So I don't believe it's fair to compare the two as if they're the same thing. So, I believe it is critical to realize the particular hazards of gambling and to exercise caution when using the term "investment" to characterize it, so people who see gambling as a kind of enjoyment should play responsibly.

Usually rich people mostly participate in gambling for fun. Because they have no shortage of money, they love to gamble, but those gamblers who indulge in gambling because of the greed of money usually face more losses. So it is better not to choose gambling as a source of income, whenever you choose gambling as a source of income you will start losing again. Because you can't free yourself from thinking and being addicted to money, you are more likely to become addicted to gambling and lose.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Gambling may be very addictive, leading to bankruptcy for some people. So, while gambling and investing share certain characteristics, they are not the same thing. While both require placing money at risk, the objectives of the two activities are rather different. Gambling is all about generating a fast profit, but investing is about accumulating long-term prosperity. So I don't believe it's fair to compare the two as if they're the same thing. So, I believe it is critical to realize the particular hazards of gambling and to exercise caution when using the term "investment" to characterize it, so people who see gambling as a kind of enjoyment should play responsibly.

Usually rich people mostly participate in gambling for fun. Because they have no shortage of money, they love to gamble, but those gamblers who indulge in gambling because of the greed of money usually face more losses. So it is better not to choose gambling as a source of income, whenever you choose gambling as a source of income you will start losing again. Because you can't free yourself from thinking and being addicted to money, you are more likely to become addicted to gambling and lose.

That is very true, personally I have always said something, a person with more money is always easier to do anything, people who spend money in the casino that way even find it fun, but when it is with people like We, who basically have everything accounted for and have to Manage well, cannot get so attached to the game, because that implies a lot of money spending, and that is what we must control, if we have more money to play we would be "sacrificing" the money to many things that are really useful and that we need and that already enters into the person's degree of irresponsibility, that is not good, so when we are with certain emotions sometimes we even forget the value of money and we concentrate on the game, and that is very bad.

If we do not keep control, we could go in the direct direction of Addiction and that is Something that we must avoid at all costs. If there was a way to warn everyone that it would be better to control their money before the emotions, well, I think that many They would not fall into addiction.

[Dewi Aries]

Gambling may be very addictive, leading to bankruptcy for some people. So, while gambling and investing share certain characteristics, they are not the same thing. While both require placing money at risk, the objectives of the two activities are rather different. Gambling is all about generating a fast profit, but investing is about accumulating long-term prosperity. So I don't believe it's fair to compare the two as if they're the same thing. So, I believe it is critical to realize the particular hazards of gambling and to exercise caution when using the term "investment" to characterize it, so people who see gambling as a kind of enjoyment should play responsibly.

Usually rich people mostly participate in gambling for fun. Because they have no shortage of money, they love to gamble, but those gamblers who indulge in gambling because of the greed of money usually face more losses. So it is better not to choose gambling as a source of income, whenever you choose gambling as a source of income you will start losing again. Because you can't free yourself from thinking and being addicted to money, you are more likely to become addicted to gambling and lose.

True, I agree with you that I think it is quite reasonable to say that more rich people gamble with the aim of just finding entertainment to fill their boring free time and also to relieve fatigue from taking care of a lot of work, the logic is as you say here that rich people are not short of money and they already have the right way to make money so that they can become rich people. I think it is a fact that most people come with the aim of winning, many factors can be used as reasons and drivers, such as those who have a financial situation that is concerning or means below average where they even have difficulty making ends meet, and not infrequently I find that there are some gamblers who come with the intention and purpose of earning to change their lives, which there are even some people who think that gambling is a quick way to get rich.

I think it's a fact that the people who experience downturns in gambling are those who come with the intention and purpose to earn, one of the reasons is because it is clear that gambling is not a place to earn, all the wins that are there are always "coincidental" which means that you will not always be able to get, and obviously when you don't win then that means you lose or lose money, and another reason why gamblers who come to win instead lose large amounts of money is because they usually gamble in an excessive way and are different from the approach taken by gamblers who come only for entertainment.