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February 10, 2024, 04:38:49 PM
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I thought that would be an interesting interview to watch but it was a 2 hour snoozefest. The interview sent me back to the high school history class where I was sleeping with my eyes open.
Please show me a similar interview with Biden or Boris from the UK so that I can watch with interest.

That's not what I am saying at all. Putin is that well educated teacher who knows so much, bombing you with information and it gets as boring as watching the demented fool's mumbling.

He said it in the first minutes of the interview though. "Is this going to be a show or the real thing?" That's when I understood he was gonna go "too" serious...

Trump is the king of entertainment in politics, once you watch him everyone else looks underwhelming.

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February 10, 2024, 07:00:40 PM
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I thought that would be an interesting interview to watch but it was a 2 hour snoozefest. The interview sent me back to the high school history class where I was sleeping with my eyes open.
Please show me a similar interview with Biden or Boris from the UK so that I can watch with interest.

That's not what I am saying at all. Putin is that well educated teacher who knows so much, bombing you with information and it gets as boring as watching the demented fool's mumbling.

He said it in the first minutes of the interview though. "Is this going to be a show or the real thing?" That's when I understood he was gonna go "too" serious...

Trump is the king of entertainment in politics, once you watch him everyone else looks underwhelming.

Look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyrHqJdgU7w

That's AWESOME.

The point is, now you have a source to see what Russia is all about. Some folks will say, "Lies, lies, lies. Putin lies." But if Putin is telling the truth, you at least now can have an understanding of it... if you are interested. Much of the history that Putin talked about in the first half hour is common knowledge, even though you have to dig for it a bit in libraries around the world.

One of the most important points quietly coming out of this interview is (read between the lines), Trump is right on. We are being played by the wealthy banker and bank owner cabal. The West banking system is thieving from us all.

The Transcript - https://redstatenation.com/read-it-here-the-transcripts-from-tucker-carlsons-exclusive-interview-with-president-vladimir-putin-in-moscow-are-released/

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February 10, 2024, 07:24:36 PM
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One of the most important points quietly coming out of this interview is (read between the lines), Trump is right on. We are being played by the wealthy banker and bank owner cabal. The West banking system is thieving from us all.
[...]

Oh, it wasn't very quiet. In fact it was the central theme of the interview.

Putin's objective for this interview is to signal to the 40% of Americans who already want to vote for Trump that he's on their side, and against the other side.

Trump is surely the first major presidential candidate in the history of the USA who will have benefitted from the endorsement of one of our country's primary enemies.

Strange times indeed...


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February 10, 2024, 09:19:01 PM
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[...]
One of the most important points quietly coming out of this interview is (read between the lines), Trump is right on. We are being played by the wealthy banker and bank owner cabal. The West banking system is thieving from us all.
[...]

Oh, it wasn't very quiet. In fact it was the central theme of the interview.

Putin's objective for this interview is to signal to the 40% of Americans who already want to vote for Trump that he's on their side, and against the other side.

Trump is surely the first major presidential candidate in the history of the USA who will have benefitted from the endorsement of one of our country's primary enemies.

Strange times indeed...



Went right over your head, didn't it.

Of course, you weren't around when Russia was our ally in WW2. And you don't remember that it was the US and the US wealthy elite who financed the Bolshevik Revolution to topple Russia - even though it backfired. And you have been sucking down all the BS US propaganda that Russia is an enemy. And you forgot to remember how loads of US politicians over the years have wanted to get their hands on Russian lands... and said so.

And you like it when the US banking system creates loads of more money so that they become wealthy, and average Americans become poorer. You just enjoy it when the world sits by and watches Americans getting screwed by their own country and banking system, and nobody does anything about it.

Putin didn't say much of this directly. But he would have liked to wake the American people up. So, he is doing it through the formation of BRICS, a system that will bring down our enemy, the banking system. Even Trump might not understand it... the criminality of the US and EU banking systems.

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February 10, 2024, 09:37:09 PM
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[...]
One of the most important points quietly coming out of this interview is (read between the lines), Trump is right on. We are being played by the wealthy banker and bank owner cabal. The West banking system is thieving from us all.
[...]

Oh, it wasn't very quiet. In fact it was the central theme of the interview.

Putin's objective for this interview is to signal to the 40% of Americans who already want to vote for Trump that he's on their side, and against the other side.

Trump is surely the first major presidential candidate in the history of the USA who will have benefitted from the endorsement of one of our country's primary enemies.

Strange times indeed...



Went right over your head, didn't it.

Of course, you weren't around when Russia was our ally in WW2
[...]

Ruzzia has never been anyone's ally dumBAss. They play their own game and were very happy to receive weapons and supplies under the lend and lease during WWII, but Stalin an his successors have always had very clear in their minds that the capitalist US was the biggest threat to their future power because it shows how a different world is possible and better.

Putin is well know to lie - e.g. "I am not going to invade Ukraine" and even to the point of not recognising Ruzzia is at war.

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February 10, 2024, 09:42:00 PM
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[...]
One of the most important points quietly coming out of this interview is (read between the lines), Trump is right on. We are being played by the wealthy banker and bank owner cabal. The West banking system is thieving from us all.
[...]

Oh, it wasn't very quiet. In fact it was the central theme of the interview.

Putin's objective for this interview is to signal to the 40% of Americans who already want to vote for Trump that he's on their side, and against the other side.

Trump is surely the first major presidential candidate in the history of the USA who will have benefitted from the endorsement of one of our country's primary enemies.

Strange times indeed...



Went right over your head, didn't it.

Of course, you weren't around when Russia was our ally in WW2
[...]

Ruzzia has never been anyone's ally dumBAss. They play their own game and were very happy to receive weapons and supplies under the lend and lease during WWII, but Stalin an his successors have always had very clear in their minds that the capitalist US was the biggest threat to their future power because it shows how a different world is possible and better.

Putin is well know to lie - e.g. "I am not going to invade Ukraine" and even to the point of not recognising Ruzzia is at war.

Ukraine's never been anything other than a battleground to attack Russia... ever. There isn't any stable Ukrainian history. Ukraine has always been bounced around like a ping-pong ball. And since it's mostly made up of Russians, it's Russians who are being hurt.

You get denser as time goes on.

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February 10, 2024, 09:52:39 PM
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I don’t think you can believe much of what Putin say, much like with any political leader. The interview is fascinating though regardless. I don’t want to get into conspiracy theories but I have also long suspected that certain leaders are just a pawn in the game, a puppet with the strings controlled by others in the background. I can’t think of a more obvious time of this potentially happening than currently with Biden. The guy doesn’t have the cognitive levels required to run the most powerful country in the world. We’ll never know what is going on behind closed doors but I do think Putin speaks some truth there. Fascinating insight into the mind of Putin.

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February 10, 2024, 11:09:28 PM
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Putin didn't say much of this directly. But he would have liked to wake the American people up. So, he is doing it through the formation of BRICS, a system that will bring down our enemy, the banking system. Even Trump might not understand it... the criminality of the US and EU banking systems.

Just out of curiosity, when China says that Taiwan is part of China--presumably justifying a forthcoming invasion of that country by them--do you agree with them too?


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February 11, 2024, 12:24:32 AM
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I must admit though, It was quite amusing when Tucker Carlson asked Puting if he knew who actually blew up the Nordstream gas pipeline back several months ago, as if Putin was willing to give such an privileged information to Tucker's public so easily, Puting even joked about the question itself before talking about it kind of seriously.
What did Tucker actually expect from that question? Did he expected to Putin to say who was the actual responsible of the sabotage of the gas pipeline based on their own intelligence work? I thought not. Giving away that information right now is not convenient for Russian interests in this war. On the other hand, I could realistically imagine Putin accusing Ukraine or the United States of it in the future, in order to create more division between Ukraine and Europe or between USA and Europe. I am sure Germany does not take that kind of sabotage on their infrastructure slightly, but seeing how Trump seems to be in a possible path to win the presidency of the United States again, Puting may not be in need to play that card on the table.
Let us see what happens, it was a multimillion dollar project, after all, are we supposed to wait for nobody to be punished for it?

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Putin didn't say much of this directly. But he would have liked to wake the American people up. So, he is doing it through the formation of BRICS, a system that will bring down our enemy, the banking system. Even Trump might not understand it... the criminality of the US and EU banking systems.

Just out of curiosity, when China says that Taiwan is part of China--presumably justifying a forthcoming invasion of that country by them--do you agree with them too?



You are among those who I don't seem to agree with. You used the word 'too' in your question, but you didn't explain what you are referring to when using it.

I know. It would take more typing, and that would be work, right?

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Putin didn't say much of this directly. But he would have liked to wake the American people up. So, he is doing it through the formation of BRICS, a system that will bring down our enemy, the banking system. Even Trump might not understand it... the criminality of the US and EU banking systems.

Just out of curiosity, when China says that Taiwan is part of China--presumably justifying a forthcoming invasion of that country by them--do you agree with them too?


You are among those who I don't seem to agree with. You used the word 'too' in your question, but you didn't explain what you are referring to when using it.


You seem to agree with Putin that Ukraine is properly party of Russia (thus justifying Russia's attack on Ukraine).

So would you agree with China as well with respect to Taiwan?




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Putin didn't say much of this directly. But he would have liked to wake the American people up. So, he is doing it through the formation of BRICS, a system that will bring down our enemy, the banking system. Even Trump might not understand it... the criminality of the US and EU banking systems.

Just out of curiosity, when China says that Taiwan is part of China--presumably justifying a forthcoming invasion of that country by them--do you agree with them too?


You are among those who I don't seem to agree with. You used the word 'too' in your question, but you didn't explain what you are referring to when using it.


You seem to agree with Putin that Ukraine is properly party of Russia (thus justifying Russia's attack on Ukraine).

So would you agree with China as well with respect to Taiwan?


Okay, think about this. We knew it all along, but we just didn't have any incentive to focus on it before.

If a guy from New York City talks to a guy from Abilene, Texas, they both understand each other, but it is difficult for them because the dialects of English are different. If you add a mountain man from the mountains in Tennessee, it becomes more difficult, still, because the Tennessee dialect is different than both of the others. Add a guy from the State of Georgia, and it becomes even more difficult. The languages of these people are all English. They are simply a different form of English... dialects.

Ukrainian is essentially a dialect of Russian. Even though there are several different languages spoken in Ukraine, the real Slavic language of Ukraine is simply a dialect of Russian. But you could say that Russian is a dialect of Ukrainian.

Something like 29% of Ukrainians (before the war) spoke Russian as their first language.

But that's not even the point. The point is that the Ukraine government was attacking their own people who spoke Russian... starting in and even before 2014. Putin simply protected these people when it became necessary.

The situation is different between China and Taiwan. China isn't trying to protect Taiwanese from a warmongering Taiwan government as Putin was protecting Ukrainians from a warmongering Ukraine government.


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After eight years of covering the Ukraine coup/civil War, and more specifically Western propaganda on Russia, I could pretty much tell you everything Putin was going to say before he said it.

Anybody who has covered Russia or Ukraine could tell you that.

He was always going to detail, in cogent and historically literate terms, Russia's position on Ukraine.

He was always going  to  cite  the (very real) broken promises Western diplomats made about NATO's Eastward expansion.
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You seem to agree with Putin that Ukraine is properly party of Russia (thus justifying Russia's attack on Ukraine).

So would you agree with China as well with respect to Taiwan?


The situation is different between China and Taiwan. China isn't trying to protect Taiwanese from a warmongering Taiwan government as Putin was protecting Ukrainians from a warmongering Ukraine government.


But Trump recently implied that he agreed with the CPC that Taiwan was part of China, and that the US should not intervene should China attack Taiwan, essentially green-lighting the invasion should he win in November. Do you agree with that?


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You seem to agree with Putin that Ukraine is properly party of Russia (thus justifying Russia's attack on Ukraine).

So would you agree with China as well with respect to Taiwan?


The situation is different between China and Taiwan. China isn't trying to protect Taiwanese from a warmongering Taiwan government as Putin was protecting Ukrainians from a warmongering Ukraine government.


But Trump recently implied that he agreed with the CPC that Taiwan was part of China, and that the US should not intervene should China attack Taiwan, essentially green-lighting the invasion should he win in November. Do you agree with that?



Trump accepts money where ever he can find it. Ruzzia money is good, Chinese money is equally good. All he needs is to use the US, make sure that all the other countries do well while the US goes into a full-blown protectionism that finally end with the dollar down the drain for lack of competitivity and collect all the bribes in the Caymans & Barbados accounts.

It is the perfect plan and it is working well with some of the most obfuscated (e.g. dumBAss).

Putin didn't say much of this directly. But he would have liked to wake the American people up. So, he is doing it through the formation of BRICS, a system that will bring down our enemy, the banking system. Even Trump might not understand it... the criminality of the US and EU banking systems.

Just out of curiosity, when China says that Taiwan is part of China--presumably justifying a forthcoming invasion of that country by them--do you agree with them too?


You are among those who I don't seem to agree with. You used the word 'too' in your question, but you didn't explain what you are referring to when using it.


You seem to agree with Putin that Ukraine is properly party of Russia (thus justifying Russia's attack on Ukraine).

So would you agree with China as well with respect to Taiwan?


Okay, think about this. We knew it all along, but we just didn't have any incentive to focus on it before.

If a guy from New York City talks to a guy from Abilene, Texas, they both understand each other

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Ukrainian is essentially a dialect of Russian. Even though there are several different languages spoken in Ukraine, the real Slavic language of Ukraine is simply a dialect of Russian. But you could say that Russian is a dialect of Ukrainian.

[...]

He was always going  to  cite  the (very real) broken promises Western diplomats made about NATO's Eastward expansion.


I have been in both Abilene, TX an New York. I can assure you that they will not understand each other - not because of the language, but because Texans simply do not bother to understand others.

Once again you are parroting stuff you know nothing about. Firstly, in any case Ruzzian would be a dialect of Ukrainian. The original Ruzzians come from Kyiv dumBAss, but your University of Tik-Tok did not have that class did it?

But the fact is that none of these are actually mutually intelligible nor dialects because they diverged several hundred years ago. https://www.mondly.com/blog/ukrainian-russian-similar/

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Its origins can be traced back to the Old East Slavic language used in Kievan Rus between the 10th and the 13th century. After the fall of the Kievan Rus, the language developed into what was called the Ruthenian language.

Before making a fool of yourself, do some research on what is a dialect, what is a language and try to not pretending to know shit dumBAss.

A request to join NATO (adhesion) is a decision of the country applying. NATO as suchcannot promise that it won't "expand". Can you provide evidence of anyone promising that to Putin?

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You seem to agree with Putin that Ukraine is properly party of Russia (thus justifying Russia's attack on Ukraine).

So would you agree with China as well with respect to Taiwan?


The situation is different between China and Taiwan. China isn't trying to protect Taiwanese from a warmongering Taiwan government as Putin was protecting Ukrainians from a warmongering Ukraine government.


But Trump recently implied that he agreed with the CPC that Taiwan was part of China, and that the US should not intervene should China attack Taiwan, essentially green-lighting the invasion should he win in November. Do you agree with that?



Trump accepts money where ever he can find it. Ruzzia money is good, Chinese money is equally good. All he needs is to use the US, make sure that all the other countries do well while the US goes into a full-blown protectionism that finally end with the dollar down the drain for lack of competitivity and collect all the bribes in the Caymans & Barbados accounts.

It is the perfect plan and it is working well with some of the most obfuscated (e.g. dumBAss).
Totally backwards. But of course, it's you. Never heard of the American dream? Didn't hear of MAGA either? You simply can't take it when somebody cuts you off, right? Why don't you get to work and change your country to have an American-like dream, rather than trying to leach off America? Oh, yes. Leaching off others is built right into your mindset. We almost forgot that... because we are free, and you aren't. So, we have an excuse for forgetting.



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I have been in both Abilene, TX an New York. I can assure you that they will not understand each other - not because of the language, but because Texans simply do not bother to understand others.
When you are honest and right - like Texans are - you don't need to play around with listening to others. That's why Biden is trying to break down Texas with border issues. Texas is right, and Biden knows it. And being right means that they won't give in to him.



Once again you are parroting stuff you know nothing about. Firstly, in any case Ruzzian would be a dialect of Ukrainian. The original Ruzzians come from Kyiv dumBAss, but your University of Tik-Tok did not have that class did it?
Thank you. One of the best pieces of knowledge you have enlightened us with, yet. Since Kiev is Russian, what is Ukraine messing with Russia for? Time to get the US and the EU out of the affairs of Russia, so that Ukraine can be reunited with all of Russia.



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What's wrong with going full protectionism? Isn't Poland doing the same thing and some more?

The Pollacks are mostly hostile towards everyone that's not a Pollack. I only stepped in Poland once while I was going to some other European country and the female passport officer was like "why the fuck are you flying transit using our country?" I mean she didn't say it directly but let's say she wasn't polite and asking stupid shit over and over again to look like she was doing her job. Luckily I exactly knew what kind of a person I was dealing with so It went all fine.  Cool

And then, this dude (according to BAD, a Pollack) above is getting worried about the dollar and says Trump is too protective.

You can't make this shit up.

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February 11, 2024, 08:59:11 PM
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What's wrong with going full protectionism? Isn't Poland doing the same thing and some more?

The Pollacks are mostly hostile towards everyone that's not a Pollack. I only stepped in Poland once while I was going to some other European country and the female passport officer was like "why the fuck are you flying transit using our country?" I mean she didn't say it directly but let's say she wasn't polite and asking stupid shit over and over again to look like she was doing her job. Luckily I exactly knew what kind of a person I was dealing with so It went all fine.  Cool

And then, this dude (according to BAD, a Pollack) above is getting worried about the dollar and says Trump is too protective.

You can't make this shit up.

Exactly!

America has a thousand ways that the government protects the rights of the people. Trump doesn't want to lose this, for his own personal gain. But this means that he has to uphold it for all Americans.

It's called MAGA.

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America has a thousand ways that the government protects the rights of the people. Trump doesn't want to lose this, for his own personal gain. But this means that he has to uphold it for all Americans.
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But what about Trump saying he'll let China take Taiwan if they want to? Maybe this is "America first" in some narrow way, but that seems like it would be pretty bad for us in the long run.



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February 11, 2024, 11:50:08 PM
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You seem to agree with Putin that Ukraine is properly party of Russia (thus justifying Russia's attack on Ukraine).

So would you agree with China as well with respect to Taiwan?


The situation is different between China and Taiwan. China isn't trying to protect Taiwanese from a warmongering Taiwan government as Putin was protecting Ukrainians from a warmongering Ukraine government.


But Trump recently implied that he agreed with the CPC that Taiwan was part of China, and that the US should not intervene should China attack Taiwan, essentially green-lighting the invasion should he win in November. Do you agree with that?



Trump accepts money where ever he can find it. Ruzzia money is good, Chinese money is equally good. All he needs is to use the US, make sure that all the other countries do well while the US goes into a full-blown protectionism that finally end with the dollar down the drain for lack of competitivity and collect all the bribes in the Caymans & Barbados accounts.

It is the perfect plan and it is working well with some of the most obfuscated (e.g. dumBAss).
Totally backwards. But of course, it's you. Never heard of the American dream? Didn't hear of MAGA either? You simply can't take it when somebody cuts you off, right? Why don't you get to work and change your country to have an American-like dream, rather than trying to leach off America? Oh, yes. Leaching off others is built right into your mindset. We almost forgot that... because we are free, and you aren't. So, we have an excuse for forgetting.



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I have been in both Abilene, TX an New York. I can assure you that they will not understand each other - not because of the language, but because Texans simply do not bother to understand others.
When you are honest and right - like Texans are - you don't need to play around with listening to others. That's why Biden is trying to break down Texas with border issues. Texas is right, and Biden knows it. And being right means that they won't give in to him.



Once again you are parroting stuff you know nothing about. Firstly, in any case Ruzzian would be a dialect of Ukrainian. The original Ruzzians come from Kyiv dumBAss, but your University of Tik-Tok did not have that class did it?
Thank you. One of the best pieces of knowledge you have enlightened us with, yet. Since Kiev is Russian, what is Ukraine messing with Russia for? Time to get the US and the EU out of the affairs of Russia, so that Ukraine can be reunited with all of Russia.



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Learn to read you silly dumBAss or simply bother to check the links: the original Ruzzians are "The Russ of Kyiv", 13th century. Just try not to put words in my text I have not written (you honest follower of the cheerleader's legs of the Wylie Bulldogs).



If you have gone to this school or any other in Abilene, I perfectly understand you lack of skills.

Being honest and straightforward yes, I recon they are quite straightforward - honesty not so much - the problem is that bit in which you say "they are right". They think they are right and anything you say is then based on that basic assumption of themselves being always right by "the grace of god" (AKA your imaginary friend in cases like that).


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February 12, 2024, 12:26:20 AM
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America has a thousand ways that the government protects the rights of the people. Trump doesn't want to lose this, for his own personal gain. But this means that he has to uphold it for all Americans.
[...]


But what about Trump saying he'll let China take Taiwan if they want to? Maybe this is "America first" in some narrow way, but that seems like it would be pretty bad for us in the long run.




That is pretty much what part of the ideology of America first is about, first taking care of the issues of the people of the United States and then (perhaps) take care of the issues and life of those who are abroad. In the mind of many Republicans it does not make sense for them to spend billions of dollars in the defense of Ukraine or Taiwan while there is a homelessness crisis and veterans in the streets on their own country. Though, you must be aware that, even if the Republican party was handed all that money back for them to build houses for the homeless, they would never do that, if it sounds like socialism they won't do it. They would instead give that money to some contractor for it to build the houses and them sell them at the full market price.
Those are the views of the whole capitalist system in the United States, and MAGA will only defend Israel because to them it makes sense to do so, but Ukraine and Taiwan do not.

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