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February 08, 2024, 07:08:29 PM
 #41

Was reading a gambling related article just this morning and it was talking on random issues cut across gambling responsibly, many of which I agree with.

However, there were two terms that were made mentioned of which stole my interest unfortunately they weren't explained but only mentioned. I could have just checked them on Google but I felt reluctant and said let me bring it to the community let make it a discussion among us. The two terms were Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.

And moreso, there's a statement I read in the comment section which is in the quote below. I would love to have the views of slot lovers in the forum on this. How true is this statement.
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All slot players are long term losers.
Totally related i should say or even lets say it is just that the same when it comes in overall idea. If we do speak about compulsive then it would really be an urge for you to play and this is something
a huge problem when you do apply it on gambling on which it would really be resulting into problem gambling on the time that you do things excessively or something that do talks
about having no control on which this would really be resulting into those negative stuffs and this is why its really just that connected to each other. Speaking about those lines about slot
players are long term losers? I should say it would be a short one. Yes, there are ones who do able to make some nasty hits but majority of those players are on the losing side.
it is really just that what makes them continue to play despite of the issue is that they do have the urge on trying out to win the jackpot.

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February 08, 2024, 08:19:35 PM
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I don't think there is an exact definition of both concepts, as they are used in different contexts by different people who have some minor different views on what each of them mean, although they are pretty similar in every cases.

As I see, problem gambler represents a wider category, while compulsive gambling might be one element inserted inside that category called problem gambler. That is, compulsiveness is one characteristic of problem gamblers, although there are many others which may be spotted as well in a determined problem gambler, like aggressivity, anxiety, low self-esteem, greed, depression.

Does this definition makes sense for you?
If we should brief it and make it short, what we can qualify both as gambling addiction. If someone have problem gambling or you are a compulsive gambler, definitely that means the person is a gambling addict. Although they are not exactly the same both they both resulted to gambling addiction as problem gambling is gambling addiction itself and that can make us say that they are both the same thing which is gambling addiction. If someone is gambling always and the person will surely continue to gamble and gamble with high amount of money and lose and always lose in a way that he has no two problem than gambling addiction problem.
Whether it is a problem gambling or compulsive gambling the two can always lead to addiction. We should understand some of the requirements that would aid everyone of us that are gamblers to stay less often to gambling activities. Problem gambling is already a causative and if care is not taken, this might lead to bigger problem and every individuals will have no option than to look for a better way to make sure everything is eradicated. We need to know is necessary and how this problem gambling can be resolved without causing a bigger problem to us. Addiction could always be the result of the two.

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February 08, 2024, 08:47:20 PM
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I think those two are intertwined but those affected more by compulsive thinking will have feelings and thoughts that for some reason they absolutely have to gamble. Maybe their luck will turn, maybe they're addicted to the act of seeing cards or levers pulled, maybe they fall into gambler's fallacy... Really there are so many things.

Problem gamblers aren't always addicted or compulsive but might be depressed or in some way mentally ill. Because the problematic behaviors aren't just limited to having intrusive thoughts. It's also an issue for example to be spending too much time gambling. Or the other aspect is just wrecking your life in general, in relation to gambling. Mostly money issues.

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February 08, 2024, 09:07:42 PM
Last edit: February 08, 2024, 09:34:07 PM by AmoreJaz
 #44

I think those two are intertwined but those affected more by compulsive thinking will have feelings and thoughts that for some reason they absolutely have to gamble. Maybe their luck will turn, maybe they're addicted to the act of seeing cards or levers pulled, maybe they fall into gambler's fallacy... Really there are so many things.

Problem gamblers aren't always addicted or compulsive but might be depressed or in some way mentally ill. Because the problematic behaviors aren't just limited to having intrusive thoughts. It's also an issue for example to be spending too much time gambling. Or the other aspect is just wrecking your life in general, in relation to gambling. Mostly money issues.

as we put it this way, there may be differences on how we distinguish these two but there will be intersections on these two terms in gambling. and it boils down to the fact that both need containment of what they are going in gambling to possibly stop worst case scenarios brought by this habit.

however, problem gambling is more on the harm experienced by the gambler or others rather than the behaviour of the gambler himself. and of course, compulsive gambling is the behaviour itself of the gambler towards gambling. and with these scenarios, somehow, they cross each other if not contained.

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February 08, 2024, 09:19:30 PM
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This is an indicator that is interconnected with each other, because a compulsive behavior can push someone into error when gambling. And one of the triggers for someone to behave compulsively when gambling is because they have poor emotional control. and if someone continues to let this happen periodically, it is not impossible that later he will be in complicated problems and enter the gloomy valley that exists in gambling, namely gambling addiction.

And the way to prevent this behavior from occurring is to always impose limits on the deposit amount and playing time. When gambling, of course, sometimes our emotions can fluctuate, which can cause our gambling to become uncontrolled and make mistakes in making betting decisions, until in the end we decide on an irrational betting decision that can only lead us to a loss. Therefore, in order for our gambling to remain under control, it is very important to always obey the rules and limits that we have previously created.

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February 08, 2024, 09:37:11 PM
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Was reading a gambling related article just this morning and it was talking on random issues cut across gambling responsibly, many of which I agree with.

However, there were two terms that were made mentioned of which stole my interest unfortunately they weren't explained but only mentioned. I could have just checked them on Google but I felt reluctant and said let me bring it to the community let make it a discussion among us. The two terms were Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.

And moreso, there's a statement I read in the comment section which is in the quote below. I would love to have the views of slot lovers in the forum on this. How true is this statement.
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All slot players are long term losers.
Problem gambling is basically umbrella term for several issues. Not all people who have problem gambling are addicts. Problem gambling can happen because of many reason, pathological reasons, mpulse-control disorder or because of obsessive–compulsive disorder, so when we are talking about compulsive gambling, it's the concept of under problem gambling, but it's also more specific reason for it.

And what do you mean by long term losers? Why are you focusing on just slots on that? Doesn't the house edge apply to anything else then slots?

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February 08, 2024, 09:41:05 PM
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Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.
I think the two terms are very close but do not mean an exact same thing, although many gamblers may not really know or agree that there is a slight difference between the two.
A gambler on the road to chronic addiction will first become a compulsive gambler before they become problem gamblers because after loosing control to gambling, their compulsive nature to gamble will then start to cause them problems. A compulsive gambler may not always be facing problems first when they become compulsive, but the effects with the problems will come later.
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February 08, 2024, 09:46:52 PM
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Compulsive gambling leads to problem gambling, when the gambler fails to come out from his addiction. This is because when you are a compulsive gambler and can gamble for long giving more time and your funds to gambling. You will end up losing all that you have.

This will now lead that gambler to start looking for where to take a loan, or sell his family properties, and even stealing to gamble forgetting the consequences because he can no longer control himself. Problem gambling is worse compared to compulsive gambling.

I know that before now many people have gone to research and I believe that the gambling effects is when you are addicted in gambling in which you don't have a safe control during when you participate in gambling,  in normal circumstances a compulsive gambling is like a kind of gambling in which the gambler is addicted in gambling because its willing to make out anything good from gambling, so that is why people are given a similar definition of gambling, so in a normal circumstances I do understand that gambling is all about risk and the problem of gambling is when you have not understand the total concepts of gambling and it leads you to become addicted.

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February 08, 2024, 10:23:25 PM
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There is a difference between both types of gambling although both of them are types of gambling addiction. In compulsive gambling, there is a problem with impulse control on the side of the individual. You think about gambling, you gamble, you dream about gamble. In problem gambling it is an umbrella word of the gambling related terminology. A person who is a compulsive gambling also a problem gambling addiction. One cannot be said to exist without the other.
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I know that before now many people have gone to research and I believe that the gambling effects is when you are addicted in gambling in which you don't have a safe control during when you participate in gambling,  in normal circumstances a compulsive gambling is like a kind of gambling in which the gambler is addicted in gambling because its willing to make out anything good from gambling, so that is why people are given a similar definition of gambling, so in a normal circumstances I do understand that gambling is all about risk and the problem of gambling is when you have not understand the total concepts of gambling and it leads you to become addicted.
That is a crucial distinction between casual or controlled gambling and compulsive or addictive gambling behavior. When gambling behavior escalates to the point of addiction, it becomes a serious problem with far-reaching consequences. Compulsive gambling, characterized by the inability to control gambling impulses despite negative consequences, can lead to financial ruin, strained relationships, and other adverse effects on one's well-being.

Understanding the nature of gambling, including its inherent risks and the potential for addiction, is essential in mitigating the harm it can cause. Gamblers need to minimize the negative impact of gambling and foster healthier attitudes towards this form of entertainment by responsible gambling behaviors. People need to approach gambling with caution and mindfulness, ensuring that it remains a source of enjoyment rather than a detriment to their life.

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February 08, 2024, 11:44:05 PM
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I think the terms are interconnected for a gambler. If a gambler engages in compulsive gambling, he is also included in the group of gamblers who engage in problem gambling, where playing excessively and not controlling his mind to stop gambling can cause him to experience problems ranging from small problems such as losing money to big problems where he can experience gambling addiction. This will cause even more problems for him, where when he is already addicted to gambling, he will no longer want to pay attention to the situation around him and only focus on himself and the gambling game. He wants to be able to gamble more often and maybe use more money, and who knows what he wants to achieve or seek from gambling. Perhaps he wants satisfaction in playing gambling, which makes him a gambling addiction that gets worse.

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February 08, 2024, 11:59:04 PM
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Problem gambling is a continuous problem, whereas compulsive gambling is similar although there are periods wherein you don't think about gambling at all and you continue to do your regular routine. IMO, the former is more destructive than the latter because you will have no time to think about normalcy or other activities apart from gambling. You are getting sucked into a bottomless pit and the only thing that can save you from yourself are professional interventionists that, unfortunately, you will also have to pay to help you out.

Either way, if you are one of the other, you need to seek help and understand that there is something wrong with you and it's not just for fun anymore.
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February 09, 2024, 05:16:02 AM
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Gambling disorder, also known as compulsive gambling or compulsive gambling, is an uncontrollable behavior or urge to continue gambling even if it means sacrificing one's life. This behavior has a destructive pattern that is psychologically, financially and socially dangerous.
problem gambling/compulsive gambling

In my opinion, this is the same because compulsive gambling is also problematic gambling, indeed compulsive gambling can cause someone to experience various problems such as experiencing disruption to your financial balance because you are too ambitious to win and continue to experience losses, mental disorders because you cannot control yourself and over time you will experience stress, as well as health problems because if you overdo it and don't have time to rest, your immune system will be compromised so you will get sick easily so we should avoid this kind of gambling within ourselves.

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February 09, 2024, 07:44:09 AM
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The two terms are related but have differences. Problem gambling is a kind of problem that gets in the way of your life, while compulsive gambling is when you cannot stop playing even though it's making you unhappy. Lastly, the statement, it's broad. It depends on the outcomes - some players may win in the short or long term.
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February 09, 2024, 09:08:14 AM
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The two terms were Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.

Maybe it's just a difference in words but it actually refers to the same condition, where it is about someone who is unable to control his gambling, he will always try to gamble whether he has funds or vice versa, so he will try to find ways to gamble. and from the meaning of the word both are equally bad for the gambler who experiences it, because he only thinks about gambling even when he has to do other activities such as work and still think about gambling, so his life becomes very chaotic and slowly he will start to experience difficulties, especially in finances because he doesn't can control his desire to gamble.

And moreso, there's a statement I read in the comment section which is in the quote below. I would love to have the views of slot lovers in the forum on this. How true is this statement.
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All slot players are long term losers.
Only true slot players can answer whether it is true that slots players are a long-term losers, but if it is true it never reduces the gambler's intention to gamble on slot games which is why it is one of the most played games

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February 09, 2024, 09:55:30 AM
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Both concepts, compulsive gambling, and pathological gambling, have the same developmental phases. In both cases, a person has obsessive thoughts about the game, despite the result, and a regular need to play in anticipation of even greater winnings.
I always wondered whether a patient with such passion would stop after a big win. However, medical sources report that the person will need to play even more. But the question arises: when does the brain fail?  How can you understand that you are standing before a line, after crossing which there will be no return?

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February 09, 2024, 10:49:22 AM
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Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling are kinda similar but Problem Gambling covers a wide range of issues, from minor to more serious, while Compulsive Gambling is like the heavy-duty version where someone can't resist the urge despite bad consequences. Both mess with your finances and life. Now that statement about all slot players being long-term losers is too black and white. Sure slots favor the casino but everyone's different. Some people win here and there or just have fun without being constant losers. Gambling's not that cut and dry, it's a mix of luck and personal choices

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February 09, 2024, 11:03:14 AM
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Problem gambling is basically umbrella term for several issues. Not all people who have problem gambling are addicts. Problem gambling can happen because of many reason, pathological reasons, mpulse-control disorder or because of obsessive–compulsive disorder, so when we are talking about compulsive gambling, it's the concept of under problem gambling, but it's also more specific reason for it.

And what do you mean by long term losers? Why are you focusing on just slots on that? Doesn't the house edge apply to anything else then slots?
Well, we don't need to sugarcoat words, do we? I think we're playing with words; if someone has gambling issues, then he's likely addicted. Having issues translates to not being able to control your urge to gamble, spending more money or time than you initially intended, becoming obsessed, and generally ignoring any negative consequences. At least to me, that sounds like an addicted person. It's never only the gambling part that's the issue; there are always underlying causes for such behaviors. These two definitions may be slightly different, but the result is usually the same, or quite similar, at least.

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February 09, 2024, 11:12:38 AM
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In my opinion, both of these definitions indicate problems with self-control during gambling. It seems to me that the only difference between compulsive gambling and problem gambling is that it is much more difficult for the former to stop gambling, because he/she cannot do it on his/her own and such a person loses self-control not only during the gambling session, but also outside of gambling, which eventually leads to problems in life. Experience with problem gambling does not mean that a person has a gambling addiction - every gambler can face this when he loses a large enough amount of money.

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February 09, 2024, 11:47:38 AM
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Was reading a gambling related article just this morning and it was talking on random issues cut across gambling responsibly, many of which I agree with.

However, there were two terms that were made mentioned of which stole my interest unfortunately they weren't explained but only mentioned. I could have just checked them on Google but I felt reluctant and said let me bring it to the community let make it a discussion among us. The two terms were Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.

And moreso, there's a statement I read in the comment section which is in the quote below. I would love to have the views of slot lovers in the forum on this. How true is this statement.
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All slot players are long term losers.
Well, let me start with Problem gambling and Compulsive gambling. The two are real and you can see them all around you with the way gamblers are losing and having issues associated with them. A good gambling activity is possible depending on how we accept and play it. It has enough problems associated with it as well if care is not taken. But without going deep into this, one can still avoid many of these problems if they are good players, and with managerial skills included in their plays. Also, with compulsive gambling, no one is making anything compulsory in gambling, we can only be compulsive about things at our own discretion. If we are not careful, we can be addicted, and addiction is compulsive in nature because we are already obsessed with it. How is that the fault of gambling as a context, if not our fault?

Lastly, the losing remark on the Slots game is what the author believes, but it could be different with another person. But one thing that is sure is that gambling on Slot games is primarily about luck, and if you are not lucky when you play, you might be a loser at that time. Yet, this doesn't stop others from playing before or after you win their games.

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