Why do coaches get sacked over poor performance of players?

[youdacapt]

This is not the right way to go about it and I will try to discuss it by sharing my opinion

Football coaches are never sacked over poor performance of players; coaches are sacked because they fail to meet up with the targets set by the club owners.

A coaches job is to get results; irrespective of the infield / off field issues; failures to get the players to perform for you, the club and get results means the coach has failed in its role;

It is only natural to get sacked, coaching is not all about tactics and methods alone, but making sure the players perform your tactics and you get results

[Stepstowealth]

I have followed various sporting activities and I noticed something that hardly make complete sense to me and that is the rationale behind firing a coach when the players do perform poorly. What drew my attention to this is a news flash about Jose Mourinho's case in Roma. According to the article, Mourinho left Roma angry and feeling betrayed by the players. Is it even possible that players will intentionally lose matches because they want their coach out at the expense of their own careers? If this is true, why will the club management reprimand the coach and not the players? I know some people will argue that the coach is the leader of the team and should be responsible for building the unity and love the team need to play in high morale, but in a case the players happen to have hated the coach and have decided to lose matches as punishment for their coach, is it right to fire the coach?

I'm not professional in sports but I knew for sure that the management of sports in the country will fire a coach because they need someone to fire when things do not go as they want, when they need someone to bear the consequences of loosing too much.  They cannot sack the players, so the coach becomes the next.
 
With a good tactics or plan for each game, nobody will talk about sacking a coach of a team.

[chaser15]

Is it even possible that players will intentionally lose matches because they want their coach out at the expense of their own careers? If this is true, why will the club management reprimand the coach and not the players? I know some people will argue that the coach is the leader of the team and should be responsible for building the unity and love the team need to play in high morale, but in a case the players happen to have hated the coach and have decided to lose matches as punishment for their coach, is it right to fire the coach?

It won't happen mostly in professional leagues. Firing a coach will depend on the team management.

By intentionally losing the match just for that purpose, these players are risking their respective careers. No way they will do that.

The league will also be jeopardized and mostly some sponsors might pull out if there's an intentional losing that's happening inside the league.

[AmoreJaz]

Is it even possible that players will intentionally lose matches because they want their coach out at the expense of their own careers? If this is true, why will the club management reprimand the coach and not the players? I know some people will argue that the coach is the leader of the team and should be responsible for building the unity and love the team need to play in high morale, but in a case the players happen to have hated the coach and have decided to lose matches as punishment for their coach, is it right to fire the coach?

It won't happen mostly in professional leagues. Firing a coach will depend on the team management.

By intentionally losing the match just for that purpose, these players are risking their respective careers. No way they will do that.

The league will also be jeopardized and mostly some sponsors might pull out if there's an intentional losing that's happening inside the league.

i believe the players can do such intentional act if they truly want their coach to be out of their realm. there may be strong or valid reason why a certain coach is not liked by his players. it means also, that they are against with his management or approach to them. but in my opinion, it is possible that they can intentionally lose a game for that very reason.

just consider the following factors that can trigger their hateful act to their coach -
- they don't like his authority, not listening to his players' point of view
- doesn't care about his player's feelings
- can't unite his team
- arrogant with things
- focus on winnings not considering his players' conditions even when injured
- play favouritism
- doesn't want feedback or any kind of criticism and the list may go on depending on their situation.

[agustina2]

I have followed various sporting activities and I noticed something that hardly make complete sense to me and that is the rationale behind firing a coach when the players do perform poorly. What drew my attention to this is a news flash about Jose Mourinho's case in Roma. According to the article, Mourinho left Roma angry and feeling betrayed by the players. Is it even possible that players will intentionally lose matches because they want their coach out at the expense of their own careers? If this is true, why will the club management reprimand the coach and not the players? I know some people will argue that the coach is the leader of the team and should be responsible for building the unity and love the team need to play in high morale, but in a case the players happen to have hated the coach and have decided to lose matches as punishment for their coach, is it right to fire the coach?

That was crazy. I believe professional players will not intentionally lose a game just for their coach to be put at risks  There are lots of ways for their coach to be fired and the best way is to voice out their complaint to the management. In professional leagues, it's a big violation if the team purposely lose the match. It's unprofessional.

What if that game is very important and these players will try to lose that game? It's was the same as game fixing and rigging the match.

[wakier]

We don't know the real problems that occurred between the AS Roma players and their coach because as far as I know Mourinho didn't have any problems with the players so he deliberately sacrificed defeat so that the board fired the coach because he was considered not good enough in building overall performance, if this is true What really happened is that the players did this on purpose, in my opinion it is very unreasonable because this is not a small league and if they lose a lot of points then AS Roma will be even more left behind by other teams and of course it will be difficult for themselves later.

[Chikito]

I have followed various sporting activities and I noticed something that hardly make complete sense to me and that is the rationale behind firing a coach when the players do perform poorly. What drew my attention to this is a news flash about Jose Mourinho's case in Roma. According to the article, Mourinho left Roma angry and feeling betrayed by the players. Is it even possible that players will intentionally lose matches because they want their coach out at the expense of their own careers? If this is true, why will the club management reprimand the coach and not the players? I know some people will argue that the coach is the leader of the team and should be responsible for building the unity and love the team need to play in high morale, but in a case the players happen to have hated the coach and have decided to lose matches as punishment for their coach, is it right to fire the coach?

in my opinion it's just gossip, it's like Impossible because they are a professional player who has a responsibility to win the match even if they don't like a coach. In Mourinho case, not just this time, He even did the same thing before, I don't surprise when heard the news about Mourinho because he is a person who have type like this when he was bored to training the club. he was used to doing that, because he wants to be highlighted by the media, so famous that make another club interested to recruit him. I think he deserves an Oscar as coach who can be the actors.

[livingfree]

This happens for every sport that has a coach. It's a normal thing and about business relations that whenever the team didn't perform well, it's either the coach is out or the players of it.

I think that most coach understands this and even if they have a contract and it won't be honored anymore by the team's management, they will accept it.

As career in sports is like this. It's a peak of your career when you're winning and you'll just be nothing when your team performs poorly and there's a need to blame someone. But in the end, it's just pure business.

[Gallar]

I have followed various sporting activities and I noticed something that hardly make complete sense to me and that is the rationale behind firing a coach when the players do perform poorly. What drew my attention to this is a news flash about Jose Mourinho's case in Roma. According to the article, Mourinho left Roma angry and feeling betrayed by the players. Is it even possible that players will intentionally lose matches because they want their coach out at the expense of their own careers? If this is true, why will the club management reprimand the coach and not the players? I know some people will argue that the coach is the leader of the team and should be responsible for building the unity and love the team need to play in high morale, but in a case the players happen to have hated the coach and have decided to lose matches as punishment for their coach, is it right to fire the coach?

Speaking in this context, in my opinion, AS Roma management must study this carefully before deciding to change coaches. Because in my personal opinion, the things that can cause a coach to be fired by club management are:

• Has a very bad performance at the club he coaches
• He often has arguments with the players, so many of the players don't like him (don't get along).
• And finally, the management wants to make changes to the club's playing style (this factor does not mean the coach's performance is very bad).

In my opinion, these three factors are the underlying reasons why a coach can be fired.

So talking about Mourinho who was fired from AS Roma because many of his players didn't like him, I think the steps taken by AS Roma management were very correct. Because if for example AS Roma had to keep Mourinho in the coaching chair, but the players didn't like Mourinho, this would definitely have a bad impact on the club. So sacrificing Mourinho and retaining the players, in my opinion, is the right step. Because after all, the players must be prioritized, because the players are the ones who play on the field. So, if for example the AS Roma players' performance is not good because they are not comfortable with Mourinho, then the AS Roma management must take bold steps to change the coach. And now the AS Roma coach has been replaced with De Rossi and so far the performance of the AS Roma players can be said to be better.

[Kakmakr]

A player will have to be stupid to risk their career to play badly to shift the blame on the coach to get him or her sacked. That coach has nothing to lose, he/she lost the job.. so he/she will expose their motives and the players will be sacked too.

In the end, a club is a business and their ultimate goal will be to make a profit, so they will monitor both the coach and the players performance and base their decisions on that.  

[Mauser]

I have followed various sporting activities and I noticed something that hardly make complete sense to me and that is the rationale behind firing a coach when the players do perform poorly. What drew my attention to this is a news flash about Jose Mourinho's case in Roma. According to the article, Mourinho left Roma angry and feeling betrayed by the players. Is it even possible that players will intentionally lose matches because they want their coach out at the expense of their own careers? If this is true, why will the club management reprimand the coach and not the players? I know some people will argue that the coach is the leader of the team and should be responsible for building the unity and love the team need to play in high morale, but in a case the players happen to have hated the coach and have decided to lose matches as punishment for their coach, is it right to fire the coach?

The coach is the one in charge of the team, he is the one that can bench, trade or fire a player to build the team he wants with the resources he has. The coach gets paid a lot of money to make all those decisions, which makes him the one responsible for the performance of the team in the end. A player alone can't be responsible for the whole performance of the team, which is why the blame is usually put on the coach. This doesn't mean that the coach has all the power and player don't have any power. When the players feel like the coach is not using them for their full potential, or there is a rift between the players and the coach, then the players could start to play poorly. So, the coach has the players and in his hands and the players have the coach in their hands. I think this a fair relationship and it shouldn't be only the players that get fired for poor performance.

[Woodie]

I have followed various sporting activities and I noticed something that hardly make complete sense to me and that is the rationale behind firing a coach when the players do perform poorly.

If we need to understand sport we need put it out there that sport is not only about sport, it as an aspect of management that links what the club wants to the team as a responsibility of the manager, and because these instructions are given to the manager for the team to execute and if they fail to do so, his technically the first to be axed.

Besides, because his given the powers to choose his team and all that & when it's not working... owners don't get to direct there dissatisfaction of poor results to the team but the manager him or herself.  

Is it even possible that players will intentionally lose matches because they want their coach out at the expense of their own careers? If this is true, why will the club management reprimand the coach and not the players?

Think of the manager as player number 1 or team captain and when poor results come his responsible for them and will take full responsibility as the leader.
Its like in a home, if kids misbehave the person responsible for there behaviour it's the parents except they don't get to leave their kids lol

I know some people will argue that the coach is the leader of the team and should be responsible for building the unity and love the team need to play in high morale, but in a case the players happen to have hated the coach and have decided to lose matches as punishment for their coach, is it right to fire the coach?

His experience needs to find a way to win their support otherwise deliberate or not...his still the leader responsible for everyone...if it means benching the bad apples as punishment to correct the team so be it...

[ethereumhunter]

I'm not professional in sports but I knew for sure that the management of sports in the country will fire a coach because they need someone to fire when things do not go as they want, when they need someone to bear the consequences of loosing too much.  They cannot sack the players, so the coach becomes the next.
 
With a good tactics or plan for each game, nobody will talk about sacking a coach of a team.

Team management will fire a coach who cannot make his team win the championship after management has given him repeated opportunities. Management will consider that the coach needs to learn more at new clubs so that they can gain more experience in managing a team. Finding tactics or strategies for his team is not easy, so a coach must have a lot of experience to find the right composition for each player. Moreover, each team has its own ego and may not want to be paired with other players. This is one of the things that coaches have to overcome. Getting a win is the dream of all teams, so the coach's job is very difficult because he is responsible for finding the right strategy.

[zaim7413]

The coach is the main person responsible for a team, he is the one who determines the strategy, determines the starting line up and decides on player substitutions when his team is competing. Mourinho dismissal was due to several poor results achieved by Roma in several matches. The performance of the players on the field is the coach's responsibility because he is in full control of drawing up plans before the match starts. Mourinho was very instrumental for Roma, he managed to bring Roma to win the Conference League trophy and reach the Europa League final last season.

Mourinho relationship with his players is very harmonious, it is impossible for players to betray Mourinho by deliberately playing badly which makes Roma lose. Mourinho was still able to improve Roma performance because some of the core players were his former subordinates, but due to management's inability to be patient, Mourinho had to leave Roma in a disharmonious manner.

[Natsuu]

When a team does badly, they often blame the coach. While players might not intentionally mess up to get rid of their coach, if there's bad blood, it can affect how they play. Firing the coach can be a way to shake things up but clubs need to figure out if it's the real solution or if there are deeper issues with the players. It's a tough call and whether to point fingers at the coach or the players depends on what the club thinks will actually make the team better

[youdacapt]

We don't know the real problems that occurred between the AS Roma players and their coach because as far as I know Mourinho didn't have any problems with the players so he deliberately sacrificed defeat so that the board fired the coach because he was considered not good enough in building overall performance, if this is true What really happened is that the players did this on purpose, in my opinion it is very unreasonable because this is not a small league and if they lose a lot of points then AS Roma will be even more left behind by other teams and of course it will be difficult for themselves later.

Jose mourinho sack at as Roma was more political than about performances; Ofcourse the results for Jose at Roma has not been good, aside winning European trophies (the first in Roma history), the coach has been unable to achieve a top 4 finish and to be candid; the as Roma side is not good enough to compete for a top 4 place in the Serie a.

I will like to mention in addition why coaches get sacked

1. Poor performance in the league table; European places etc
2. Fall out with players
3. Fall out with management ( Bayern sacking nagglesman)

Many more…

[Oilacris]

When a team does badly, they often blame the coach. While players might not intentionally mess up to get rid of their coach, if there's bad blood, it can affect how they play. Firing the coach can be a way to shake things up but clubs need to figure out if it's the real solution or if there are deeper issues with the players. It's a tough call and whether to point fingers at the coach or the players depends on what the club thinks will actually make the team better

For sure there would really be those kind of chances given specially if we do speak about into those losing games on which its true that coaches are the main ones who would really be blamed out
but of course there would really be those kind of assessment if its really that on coache's mistake in regarding into those losing game on which we know that there's no such thing about assurance on winning because there would really be always those teams which is way more better compared to another one.This is why it wont really be that much of a precise thing if you are really that
just that looking in one angle just because you do really believe that they are the main ones who should really be getting blamed. So its not that a realistic or normal approach on things.

[Promocodeudo]

I have followed various sporting activities and I noticed something that hardly make complete sense to me and that is the rationale behind firing a coach when the players do perform poorly. What drew my attention to this is a news flash about Jose Mourinho's case in Roma. According to the article, Mourinho left Roma angry and feeling betrayed by the players. Is it even possible that players will intentionally lose matches because they want their coach out at the expense of their own careers? If this is true, why will the club management reprimand the coach and not the players? I know some people will argue that the coach is the leader of the team and should be responsible for building the unity and love the team need to play in high morale, but in a case the players happen to have hated the coach and have decided to lose matches as punishment for their coach, is it right to fire the coach?

Why do company mangers get sacred if the company is not performing to the satisfaction of the owners, this is normal, if a team is not performing well the blame is placed on the manager, hope you remember that he is been paid and there are obligation that he must carry out and also contract with different sections are being signed between him and the team owners so if he fails on his own his own part what happens, the team is not doing well for now and I think that the club owner can't wait any longer because the need fast result which I don't know if they will get it as fast as they need it, but the truth is that when a team is not doing well the blame will always be for the manger because the team is under the care of the manager so if otherwise happen is to his own detriment.

[bitbollo]

the coach is responsible for the whole team perform since he can manage directly their physical form, choices on the style of play, who to send to play and so on... obviously he is personally responsible for these choices and can be sacked in case of issues.
Mourinho case is something different in this case since he was in a particular situation with players... at least for what has been told here in Italy. I don't know if it's true or not, however he is still a great coach (my opinion).

[alastantiger]

Coaches get sacked because it is part of their job description to meet some key performance indicators one of which is to bring out the best in a football player under their tutelage that would validate the lump some that they are being paid  by their employees. If you do noy perform well, you are out. And that is what it is. Besides you know that these coaches are never in want for a job because immediately they are fired, there is usually another offer waiting for them.

Coaches who perform well, have a long contract and staying period at their jobs. Everyone appreciates them. Everyone is happy and they are happy too.