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March 03, 2024, 07:49:18 PM
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As a woman she is, I clearly understood that they are attracted to pleasures especially on activities that attracts public attentions. These species of humans (women) fails to understand that it is money that afford those pleasury materials and activities they craves for which one has to utilize himself logically in economical situations so as to create financial balanced system before chasing after those financial consuming activities without the potentials of yielding incomes.

I hope that your wife is your best friend right? I am not married but one day when I am ready to settle down and take all responsibility as a man, I will marry my best friend and I hope you have done the same because best friend understands each other more than they have misunderstandings. If she knows you have an investment, she ought to be understandable enough your reasons on not providing flashy lifestyle that she wants, she need to know the value of investment. However, if she fail to understand your intentions after all the talk, I don't think these is going to be the only misunderstanding you guys will have, there are many more that might come later, so be prepared for whom you marry as wife.

I just think that since you have your money on investment like Bitcoin, you shouldn't have proceed to marriage when you know such things will bring problems, you know the kind of woman you marry, you know better and see better than most of us here that are dropping our one cents and opinions.

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March 03, 2024, 07:55:26 PM
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Just do your thing, if you think celebrations can be delayed and it's just a pleasure and your wife is totally okay with that. That's your relationship and there's no one that will stop you to use that money to anything else or by investing in the crypto market.

I just think that since you have your money on investment like Bitcoin, you shouldn't have proceed to marriage when you know such things will bring problems, you know the kind of woman you marry, you know better and see better than most of us here that are dropping our one cents and opinions.
That's right, you know your woman better and she knows you better too. Don't get overhype with expectations over reality but it's up to the kind of arrangement that both of you have.

If it's part of your plan to have a better life in the future, good luck to all of us who are investing and keep on investing and holding bitcoin.  Cool



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March 05, 2024, 02:04:46 AM
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I don't see any need of you cancelling your marriage because you are holding bitcoin,its ridiculous.
This simply shows you don't have a plan and your finances depend on the bitcoin you are holding, your wife don't need to understand anything but you should understand, if you are not financially stable no need to get married, at all and you should also   check other   stuff outside bitcoin, find a job, the fact you are holding bitcoin doesn't mean you are doing well financially, sorry if I sound mean.
What if there was no bull run? think man.
Bitcoin isn't holy grail, the goal is financial freedom and independence not sole dependence on it.
In essence I don't see anything reasonable about your decision,  the
truth is everyone is entitled to there opinion or decision.

   What if you didn't come across bitcoin, would you have remain unmarried.

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March 05, 2024, 05:55:24 AM
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This is not always true for everyone. If you make enough money then you do not need anything, you could just chase hobbies that benefit you. You do not even have to be rich, you could be poor, or you could be just making median income, and nothing major, but if you are capable of sustaining yourself and not need more and more money, then you could just have an ordinary life. I know a teacher in an university, a friend of mine, and he has a small house with maybe thousands of books, all he does is go to work at the college, come home, read books, write some stuff, and sleep that's it.

Some people are happy that way and they do not really need more money to live a happy life, they should be considering it as something that would be normal.

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March 05, 2024, 06:26:08 AM
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I decided to cancel our marriage anniversary celebration because I insighted that there is more to gain In my continues hodling while the markets skyrockets than selling off my hodled coins just for ceremonial pleasures which can not profer me financial returns other than consuming the ones saved.
Now, my wife seized not to understand what my logical points about this are because she is not the one providing for the family.
I know you might have expected to get an applaud for your decision but the truth is that it's not always about the money. You're talking about your family as though you're referring to your employee or someone that's supposedly far from you.

If for any reason you want to alter the plans of celebrating your anniversary with your wife, it should be a product of mutual consent were you make her understand the reason why you are doing what you are doing and the best way to possibly do it is to reduce your budget for the anniversary and maybe take her out on a cool dinner were you guys can have a cool chat and maybe talk about your investment decision on the date. I believe its right to make your partner understand the reason for your actions so you won't put her in the dark and make her feel as though you're not considering her feeling at all before making any decision.

Investing into Bitcoin is good but it's not until you see  that the market is bullish that you will invest, your anniversary comes just ones in a year while you have the rest of the year to accumulate as much Bitcoin as you want to, what's the esense of the accumulation you're accumulating if you can't spare part of it into solving your real life problems?

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March 05, 2024, 08:15:37 AM
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I am not financially stable yet, so I am very much grateful for the appreciative increments in the Bitcoin market (bull-run) on going, I decided to cancel our marriage anniversary celebration because I insighted that there is more to gain In my continues hodling while the markets skyrockets than selling off my hodled coins just for ceremonial pleasures which can not profer me financial returns other than consuming the ones saved.
Now, my wife seized not to understand what my logical points about this are because she is not the one providing for the family.
As a woman she is, I clearly understood that they are attracted to pleasures especially on activities that attracts public attentions. These species of humans (women) fails to understand that it is money that afford those pleasury materials and activities they craves for which one has to utilize himself logically in economical situations so as to create financial balanced system before chasing after those financial consuming activities without the potentials of yielding incomes.


Putting your life on hold because of a bull run does not seem very sensible and it's expected your wife would be confused in this situation. When will enough be enough for you? Is there a certain point that it needs to reach before you will cash out a small portion of it, so you can get married? At the moment it seems like you do not have any plan at all to progress your life outside of owning this bitcoin. Your "logic" is also precarious because you never know when a selloff might come, so be wary about thinking you know it all.

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March 05, 2024, 08:32:09 AM
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I perfect understand the op even though I feel that his post is incomplete, for I think I am also in the same situation as he is though in a different area or dimension.

I am also married, and currently, I am building my first house for me and my family, recently as the crypto currency market started going up, I had to pause my house project to a complete stop, and hodl my cryptos for the now, and also try to add more cryptos to my positions, since this is a circle that only comes once in 4 years, I've had two opportunities like this in the past, and I missed out completely, and here is another opportunity and this time, I swore not to miss again, for no body knows which of this opportunities will be the last, so, I decided I must take full advantage of this circle, I paused every single thing I was doing that was taking money off me.

But my wife doesn't just understand, she wants me to take my money off crypto and continue our building, but I've said no on multiple occasions she brought the discussion up, and tried to explain to her understanding but she seems adamant, I just let her be.

Women are generally the same, they all seem to behave exactly the same way, so, as a man, when you doing something and they don't support you, just ignore them and keeping doing what you do, as far as you are very sure that what you are doing is the right thing.

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March 05, 2024, 11:34:50 PM
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As a woman she is, I clearly understood that they are attracted to pleasures especially on activities that attracts public attentions. These species of humans (women) fails to understand that it is money that afford those pleasury materials and activities they craves for which one has to utilize himself logically in economical situations so as to create financial balanced system before chasing after those financial consuming activities without the potentials of yielding incomes.

I hope that your wife is your best friend right? I am not married but one day when I am ready to settle down and take all responsibility as a man, I will marry my best friend and I hope you have done the same because best friend understands each other more than they have misunderstandings. If she knows you have an investment, she ought to be understandable enough your reasons on not providing flashy lifestyle that she wants, she need to know the value of investment. However, if she fail to understand your intentions after all the talk, I don't think these is going to be the only misunderstanding you guys will have, there are many more that might come later, so be prepared for whom you marry as wife.

I just think that since you have your money on investment like Bitcoin, you shouldn't have proceed to marriage when you know such things will bring problems, you know the kind of woman you marry, you know better and see better than most of us here that are dropping our one cents and opinions.
I am a married man, and I can tell you categorically that my wife doesn't like public attention or even reckless spending, I am married to me best friend and my manager, she is in charge of our family finance's since sh can manage more than me, so it all about individual and not generally that women like extra vargant spending.

One of the thing that make women to behave extravagantly when they get married is the husband that cause it from the beginning, at least before you get married, you should already have seen traces of wastage in the spouse and at that you as the man should have work on caughting that habits down from the beginning, but most men fails in this regards because instead them to currect the lady at the unset, the take it as love and overlooked alot of things and when you finally get married it becomes too late to correct anything at that point.
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March 05, 2024, 11:46:21 PM
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Just do your thing, if you think celebrations can be delayed and it's just a pleasure and your wife is totally okay with that. That's your relationship and there's no one that will stop you to use that money to anything else or by investing in the crypto market.

I just think that since you have your money on investment like Bitcoin, you shouldn't have proceed to marriage when you know such things will bring problems, you know the kind of woman you marry, you know better and see better than most of us here that are dropping our one cents and opinions.
That's right, you know your woman better and she knows you better too. Don't get overhype with expectations over reality but it's up to the kind of arrangement that both of you have.

If it's part of your plan to have a better life in the future, good luck to all of us who are investing and keep on investing and holding bitcoin.  Cool
Women are women. They will be upset today but eventually it will vanish after couple of days. So just talk to your wife heart to heart and I think if she’s looking forward for a great future with you, I know she’ll understand. Focus on your bitcoin investment but at the same time, do not let your wife feel ignored. Tell her that she’s a big part of your plan, and her emotional support on what you’ve been doing is a big thing. Maximize your bitcoin accumulation so that when bull run comes, both of you will come to prosper. Celebration can be delayed but big opportunities like in bitcoin never comes to your door all the time.

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March 06, 2024, 07:06:16 AM
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I perfect understand the op even though I feel that his post is incomplete, for I think I am also in the same situation as he is though in a different area or dimension.

I am also married, and currently, I am building my first house for me and my family, recently as the crypto currency market started going up, I had to pause my house project to a complete stop, and hodl my cryptos for the now, and also try to add more cryptos to my positions, since this is a circle that only comes once in 4 years, I've had two opportunities like this in the past, and I missed out completely, and here is another opportunity and this time, I swore not to miss again, for no body knows which of this opportunities will be the last, so, I decided I must take full advantage of this circle, I paused every single thing I was doing that was taking money off me.

But my wife doesn't just understand, she wants me to take my money off crypto and continue our building, but I've said no on multiple occasions she brought the discussion up, and tried to explain to her understanding but she seems adamant, I just let her be.

Women are generally the same, they all seem to behave exactly the same way, so, as a man, when you doing something and they don't support you, just ignore them and keeping doing what you do, as far as you are very sure that what you are doing is the right thing.
Generalising "women" as a monolith? Your first error. Everyone has their own family and financial perspective, regardless of gender. Communication, not disregarding criticism

Bitcoin's volatility merits respect despite its financial revolution. Understanding the risk and having a plan is as important as the potential for huge gains. Unbalanced strategy. Bitcoin investing should be part of a broad family security strategy. There are other ways to get rich. Real estate (the project you stopped) has permanent value. It's a family home and a basis for stability and growth

Finding a balance is key. Dialogue matters. Share your vision and listen. Her worries are valid. Maybe you can invest wisely and finish your foundational project. Bitcoin's path is fascinating, but your family's health is precious

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March 06, 2024, 12:25:35 PM
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This is not always true for everyone. If you make enough money then you do not need anything, you could just chase hobbies that benefit you. You do not even have to be rich, you could be poor, or you could be just making median income, and nothing major, but if you are capable of sustaining yourself and not need more and more money, then you could just have an ordinary life. I know a teacher in an university, a friend of mine, and he has a small house with maybe thousands of books, all he does is go to work at the college, come home, read books, write some stuff, and sleep that's it.

Some people are happy that way and they do not really need more money to live a happy life, they should be considering it as something that would be normal.
agreed with this some people just have their own way of to be happy, maybe indeed some people are so happy when they got stacked money on their bank account but honestly
everyone could choose what they are passionate about and it is almost guaranteed that they could be happiest person alive even if their earning isn't so amazing.
i've seen many of my friends too that took the path of having art degree, well they all know its gonna be rough path they are taking but regardless they still do it and willing to pay for it.
why? because they are passionate about it, can't really blame them since they are happy with it and good for them.
but well it will never hurt to have that additional money just in case, after all everything requires money these days, even healthcare the most basic thing that people should be having.
basically, do whatever you are passionate about but earn good money if you can since its never hurt to have money alright.

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March 06, 2024, 02:56:11 PM
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I decided to cancel our marriage anniversary celebration because I insighted that there is more to gain In my continues hodling while the markets skyrockets than selling off my hodled coins just for ceremonial pleasures which can not profer me financial returns other than consuming the ones saved.
Congratulations for your decision! You are a wise man who have long term goals and care about the future and welfare of your family! What you did is completely understandable. Bitcoin bull run is an unique event every 4 years, and we don't even know if next bull cycles are going to be so rewarding like the current one. On the other hand, you can schedule a new marriage ceremonial anytime, without restrictions. So let's prioritize Bitcoin investment for now.

Now, my wife seized not to understand what my logical points about this are because she is not the one providing for the family.
As a woman she is, I clearly understood that they are attracted to pleasures especially on activities that attracts public attentions. These species of humans (women) fails to understand that it is money that afford those pleasury materials and activities they craves for which one has to utilize himself logically in economical situations so as to create financial balanced system before chasing after those financial consuming activities without the potentials of yielding incomes.
Well, she should understand your logics, because it's pretty clear and simple, besides benefiting her as well after all, as you are doing this for both of you. I'm not sure if we could generalize and put every women on the same basket, as there are women who would be totally comprehensive and support the partner on his decision, while putting her personal desires aside, just like the man is doing, in order to achieve something better for the couple in the future.

To consider every women to be blind and fool consumerists is to consider women can't have long term goals. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm reluctant into believing it's really true... At least, that is not the personality of woman which would attract me to propitiate a strong bond like a marriage.

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March 06, 2024, 03:24:31 PM
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Well, she should understand your logics, because it's pretty clear and simple, besides benefiting her as well after all, as you are doing this for both of you. I'm not sure if we could generalize and put every women on the same basket, as there are women who would be totally comprehensive and support the partner on his decision, while putting her personal desires aside, just like the man is doing, in order to achieve something better for the couple in the future.

It's not wrong and dominant like that and as you said, a woman is also really comprehensive and supports every decision of her partner, but in my opinion it also depends on the woman's mode too, if the timing of the delivery is in a condition where the household's financial condition is safe, that's okay, but If is not yet safe, the perception will be different, especially if the main needs have not been met normally, be it daily household or monthly needs because the number of women is high and their mindset is quite far ahead in this matter.
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Well, she should understand your logics, because it's pretty clear and simple, besides benefiting her as well after all, as you are doing this for both of you. I'm not sure if we could generalize and put every women on the same basket, as there are women who would be totally comprehensive and support the partner on his decision, while putting her personal desires aside, just like the man is doing, in order to achieve something better for the couple in the future.
It's not wrong and dominant like that and as you said, a woman is also really comprehensive and supports every decision of her partner, but in my opinion it also depends on the woman's mode too, if the timing of the delivery is in a condition where the household's financial condition is safe, that's okay, but If is not yet safe, the perception will be different, especially if the main needs have not been met normally, be it daily household or monthly needs because the number of women is high and their mindset is quite far ahead in this matter.
Of course every couple will support each other if in making decisions we ask them for advice and if a woman does not support everything their partner does, of course there are problems that they did not decide together and that makes the woman not follow the advice their partner decides. When it is time to give birth, it certainly requires a lot of money to prepare for the birth and if their financial condition is in good condition, there will certainly not be any disputes and if their financial condition is not in good condition, it will certainly be very difficult to find the cost of giving birth and women will of course always feel worried about their future if it cannot be fulfilled.

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March 07, 2024, 07:13:14 AM
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In defense and pursuit of financial gain, it's often wise to keep pleasure aside and focus on the strategies that drive profit, ensuring long-term success and stability. Cool  Investing and saving a basic strategies to keep one afloat in times of need.
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March 07, 2024, 07:46:57 AM
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Of course every couple will support each other if in making decisions we ask them for advice and if a woman does not support everything their partner does, of course there are problems that they did not decide together and that makes the woman not follow the advice their partner decides. When it is time to give birth, it certainly requires a lot of money to prepare for the birth and if their financial condition is in good condition, there will certainly not be any disputes and if their financial condition is not in good condition, it will certainly be very difficult to find the cost of giving birth and women will of course always feel worried about their future if it cannot be fulfilled.
Yes, exactly. Investing in bitcoin is good for the future, but don't damage your investment goals in the wrong way. If we have a family and are married, of course financial decisions are the result of joint decisions because if not, it will worsen household relationships in the future. So be wise in investing in Bitcoin, don't ignore our partner's opinion, especially if he doesn't agree, educate him in a good way until he really knows what we are aiming for.

Especially when it comes to celebrating a wedding anniversary, of course for women this is very important and must be celebrated because this moment occurs once a year. Even if you want to take advantage of Bitcoin (bull-run), you need to communicate well with your wife. If he doesn't agree, don't force it. Because what is certain is that it is never too late to invest in bitcoin, it cannot be today, tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, you can still invest in bitcoin because bitcoin is a long-term investment.

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March 07, 2024, 08:00:45 AM
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I am not financially stable yet, so I am very much grateful for the appreciative increments in the Bitcoin market (bull-run) on going, I decided to cancel our marriage anniversary celebration because I insighted that there is more to gain In my continues hodling while the markets skyrockets than selling off my hodled coins just for ceremonial pleasures which can not profer me financial returns other than consuming the ones saved.
Now, my wife seized not to understand what my logical points about this are because she is not the one providing for the family.
As a woman she is, I clearly understood that they are attracted to pleasures especially on activities that attracts public attentions. These species of humans (women) fails to understand that it is money that afford those pleasury materials and activities they craves for which one has to utilize himself logically in economical situations so as to create financial balanced system before chasing after those financial consuming activities without the potentials of yielding incomes.

I don't know whether I should agree or not. Because I can't understand such a moment for now. But if you make this decision for the good of everyone in your family regarding economic improvement. So I think that's a good thing. But you also have to make everyone understand it, especially your wife. This is where financial education is important for our partners. So that people who understand financial management will certainly understand the decisions you take. Because in unstable financial conditions, putting aside momentary pleasures is a wise decision. But I think celebrating special moments such as wedding anniversaries or similar should still be prioritized. But it must be with the minimum possible budget that will not disrupt your economy in the future. Because life is not just for today but we also have to prepare for the future.

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March 07, 2024, 10:47:44 AM
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Well, she should understand your logics, because it's pretty clear and simple, besides benefiting her as well after all, as you are doing this for both of you. I'm not sure if we could generalize and put every women on the same basket, as there are women who would be totally comprehensive and support the partner on his decision, while putting her personal desires aside, just like the man is doing, in order to achieve something better for the couple in the future.

It's not wrong and dominant like that and as you said, a woman is also really comprehensive and supports every decision of her partner, but in my opinion it also depends on the woman's mode too, if the timing of the delivery is in a condition where the household's financial condition is safe, that's okay, but If is not yet safe, the perception will be different, especially if the main needs have not been met normally, be it daily household or monthly needs because the number of women is high and their mindset is quite far ahead in this matter.
Now I agree with you, women will tend to support whatever their partner does when all their needs are met or their finances are at a normal point, but not so if they still feel deprived of all their needs which will make the story a little different. But there are also some of them who are in any condition will always support their partners, as long as it is positive, and there are also some of them who are always demanding even though all their needs are met.
I think this goes back to each of them personally, depending on their personality or nature at the beginning, because usually couples tend to show their true nature when they are married.

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March 07, 2024, 11:25:29 AM
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Just talk to your wife about money stuff. Let her know why you're into Bitcoin and why you canceled the celebration. Find a middle ground where you both feel good about the financial choices and still enjoy some fun together

That's correct, this issue is base on perception and how you present your opinion before your wife no matter how wife may like fun or celebration a right approach can convince her for a moment break.

But for me I don't see much on the canceling if the celebration as he can cut down if it was to be elaborate celebration make it just small and promise bigger one ahead why still in pursuit of the bitcoin bull.

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March 07, 2024, 03:52:00 PM
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Getting married before being financially stable is one of the common mistake that should be avoided.
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What I know is that money in every marriage is very important, and money is what we keep a family going. But I don't really know the definition of your own financially stability,  because one can still have money to provide the basic things for his family but because of some important projects the man can decide to cancel some plans to meet up some things. From what I understood from your right up it is as if man must have excessive money to be able to provide whatever the family want before planing to go into marriage.  
If a man is able to provide food and do the basic things for his family I don't think it is a bad idea of going into marriage because sometimes life is unpredictable, waiting to make more money to be rich to provide everything the family will want is not a guarantee. The target Is just to get a stable job that the income will be good to provide for the family.

@jrrsparkles, I am totally agree with this because it creates problems in our marriage life. It is easy to say that everything will be managed but whenever it comes to money then it is not easy to solve the problem. In a marriage, there are lots of people involved so when that marriage does not work because of money then those people taunt that married couple. Without money, no one can survive properly. In married life, it is very much important to being financially stable.


Don't blame the women in general because there are women who sacrifices everything for their family then her husband and then for he kids and she forgot to live her life when all these responsibilities are hanging around her

Absolutely right. Whenever a marriage does not work or any problem occurs in a marriage, everyone blames the woman without any reason. That is absolutely wrong. Because every woman gives their 100% in a family. she just forgets herself and doing every possible thing for her family, kids, husband, and other relatives.

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