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February 18, 2024, 08:06:27 PM
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So can anyone force you to make use of what you don't dislike?
Not anyone, but something called addiction can force you to practice what you consciously dislike or wouldn't like for yourself, due to knowing the implicit negative consequences it will bring. Still, many people are doing what they dislike, because they have become slaves of addiction. That is why the self-exclusion feature was implemented at online casinos, so gamblers can freeze their accounts in sane moments they aren't being afflicted by temptations of addiction. However, by your report, it seems not every casinos are taking this feature seriously, as they are enforcing 90 days account activity before finally closing it.

In my opinion, that shouldn't be a requirement, because addictions may not take so long to manifest. In 90 days the damage an addicted gambler can do may be already huge, what means it's going to be harder to fix it. Self-exclusion should be available at any moment, despite how old our account is.

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February 18, 2024, 08:13:38 PM
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This is just a trivial thing, at least you can make withdrawals and deposits smoothly, and in general casinos say that, I once applied for an account blocking because I intended to stop gambling, but they said they would block my account within 6 months. there is no activity whatsoever, that's the casino's trick to keep its customers from leaving, because we will definitely open the account occasionally

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February 18, 2024, 08:22:35 PM
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I opened a betting account today (don't have to mention) but when I bet on their virtual games, they don't have the kind of options I am expecting to see but only provides more like only 4 options which are home win, away win, draw and over. So I bet if I could win but luckily for me I won ×2 of what I deposited, then I withdrawed the funds and mailed them to block the account because I don't find anything suitable for my liken but they replied me saying they can't and I have to make use of the account until 90 days before they can block the account.
However, it's my money and they can't force me to use it, so they have to block the account. I see that the only way to stay away from the betting account is not to fund it again.
So can anyone force you to make use of what you don't dislike?

Nobody is forcing you to play. If you don't want to play, then don't play. You can't force them to block/delete your account too. It is their business and they will do whatever they want with it. Yes the account is yours but the host (website) is theirs... If you think you won't resist and play again, then you should take professional help. Even if that casino blocks/deletes your account, you will probably find some other place to play anyway. It is not the casino's responsibility to treat your addictions. They can show you the way like we do here but ultimately it is your duty to get rehabilitated.

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February 18, 2024, 08:32:14 PM
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Probably, those 90 days have something to do with their KYC policy and the way casinos have to comply in providing personal data to authories. There is something similar going on with exchange accounts, you can ask for the casino staff to delete your account, but your personal information won't be deleted after some months within data base of clients.
Since, we are talking about policing money laundering and stopping criminals from having access to their funds, it is logical they would not allow someone to delete their account after opening it pretty much the same day, if the casino allows it, I am sure regulators would suspect on such activity.

Either way, people have already told you all you need to do is just stop using it. Perhaps, I would also add some alarm or reminder on my phone calendar, so I could try to delete the account again in three months. It is worth a shot.
One should not have account one does not use laying around, it creates a cyber security risk against you.

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February 18, 2024, 09:42:22 PM
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So can anyone force you to make use of what you don't dislike?
Not anyone, but something called addiction can force you to practice what you consciously dislike or wouldn't like for yourself, due to knowing the implicit negative consequences it will bring. Still, many people are doing what they dislike, because they have become slaves of addiction. That is why the self-exclusion feature was implemented at online casinos, so gamblers can freeze their accounts in sane moments they aren't being afflicted by temptations of addiction. However, by your report, it seems not every casinos are taking this feature seriously, as they are enforcing 90 days account activity before finally closing it.

In my opinion, that shouldn't be a requirement, because addictions may not take so long to manifest. In 90 days the damage an addicted gambler can do may be already huge, what means it's going to be harder to fix it. Self-exclusion should be available at any moment, despite how old our account is.
That is a critical point regarding the effectiveness and accessibility of self-exclusion features in online casinos, especially in addressing the immediate needs of people struggling with addiction. Addiction can indeed lead people to engage in behaviors they consciously dislike, often despite being fully aware of the negative consequences. The implementation of self-exclusion tools is a step in the right direction, providing individuals with a mechanism to take control of their gambling habits and seek respite from the cycle of addiction. But the effectiveness of these features can be compromised if there are barriers such as lengthy waiting periods before account closure.

Given the urgent nature of addiction and the potential for significant harm within a short timeframe, it's crucial for online casinos to prioritize the accessibility and responsiveness of self-exclusion mechanisms. Waiting periods of 90 days may not adequately address the immediate needs of people in crisis and could allow for further harm to occur during this time. Ideally, self-exclusion should be available at any moment that allows people to take decisive action to protect themselves from the harmful effects of addiction as soon as they recognize the need for intervention.

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February 18, 2024, 09:58:45 PM
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So can anyone force you to make use of what you don't dislike?
You can't really be forced to do anything against your will, therefore if you want them to block your account and you don't want to gamble using that account and their website, then waiting until your request is granted is the best course of action. Additionally, since I believe they have policies regarding it as well, you cannot make them block you immediately. If gambling from their casino is something you do not want to do, then stop and refrain from it. Similarly, if spending money on things you dislike is something you should avoid doing.
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February 18, 2024, 10:04:21 PM
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Casino sites deliberately do this so that their customers don't decrease, this is just their trick, because 90 days is not a fast time, of course every now and then we will want to open the account and curiosity will arise to play, and it will become a repeating cycle, but this is not This will happen if you already have a casino site that is comfortable and that you like and have no interest in playing at other casinos
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February 18, 2024, 10:15:03 PM
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No no you got this the wrong way. They're not forcing you to use your money. You're making it look like they're forcing you to use your money since they won't block the account. See the thing is blocking accounts are only a thing for people who can't seem to stop spending and this means that THEY themselves spend the money, the casino does in no way force you to spend it. It's common sense really. Let's not be entitled shall we? In the first place signing up to a casino only to ask them to block you because you don't want to spend money just seems dumb.

And I also don't really see an issue here, you were able to withdraw your funds so I think tjat's that. Them blocking or not blocking your account? Doesn't look like it matters, just forget about the casino, end of the story.

Well said, telling you to wait for 90 days boils down to the policy of the casino and in my understanding that doesn`t amount to forcing you to gamble. You can easily uninstall the app from your phone while waiting for the 90days besides are you intending to quit gambling? from your story it is no the only issue you had with the bookie is the fewer options they have which means you are likely to look for a better bookie with better options if this is the case then you have to use your preferred bookie and there is no penalty for that. I have different betting accounts and I use any when I wish I have used some for a couple of years now because I am satisfied with the ones I am using. so, blocking your account shouldn't amount to a problem because I see no problem with that or the company`s policy.

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February 18, 2024, 10:44:50 PM
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This is just a trivial thing, at least you can make withdrawals and deposits smoothly, and in general casinos say that, I once applied for an account blocking because I intended to stop gambling, but they said they would block my account within 6 months. there is no activity whatsoever, that's the casino's trick to keep its customers from leaving, because we will definitely open the account occasionally
I didn't know that but thank you for the information.
In this type of problem, I bet we can use other features like "responsible gambling". If it's available then apply for it and maybe we will be automatically stopped at some point because we hit the limit that we set so that we won't be forced to play again even if the urge is so strong.
There are other options like setting the limit for the day only, I have not tried it yet because I am afraid I will be blocked from betting for the day if ever I reach the amount that I will input. It's better to check out those new features of the online gambling sites.

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February 19, 2024, 12:01:36 AM
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At least you got to walk away with a win because virtual sports are almost similar to casino games. Also, it's unusual to hear that new accounts must be 90 days old before they're allowed to use self-exclusion.

So can anyone force you to make use of what you don't dislike?
Depending on the casino or gambling site, the worst they could force you to do is to comply with their requirements. It could range from KYC to deposit rollovers, which can be annoying if you don't read reviews and feedback from regular gamblers.

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I don't know if the casino deceives its customers by saying they can't block their accounts. But the casino cannot force us to continue using the account, especially if we don't want to gamble at the casino.
If we don't want to place a bet at that casino, we don't need to visit the casino again and if he can withdraw his winnings, that's his luck. But if not, he may have to use his money to bet again.
But this time, he might not be as lucky as before. At least, this is a lesson for him not to carelessly choose a casino for gambling and make sure the casino site is the casino he wants so that there are no problems.

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Well, in regards to the things that involve creating an Account and then paying as you say, well the thing is different, don't use that Account , they also have an Option that you don't like and they are very PC, therefore When we are in a casino that We don't like or a Betting house that we don't like, it doesn't make sense to stay there, now what says you were lucky and lucky is something very nice, you shouldn't have to leave the Site either. there, but it's simple, don't put more money and that's it, no one in the casino or the casinos forces you to Place bets , so what we do will Always be One of the things that we Determine if we win in a casino or Lose , well That is our question, from What I have seen it has Always been the case that when we enter a casino Every decision is ours, and that is the only thing that should be highlighted.

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I opened a betting account today (don't have to mention) but when I bet on their virtual games, they don't have the kind of options I am expecting to see but only provides more like only 4 options which are home win, away win, draw and over. So I bet if I could win but luckily for me I won ×2 of what I deposited, then I withdrawed the funds and mailed them to block the account because I don't find anything suitable for my liken but they replied me saying they can't and I have to make use of the account until 90 days before they can block the account.
However, it's my money and they can't force me to use it, so they have to block the account. I see that the only way to stay away from the betting account is not to fund it again.
So can anyone force you to make use of what you don't dislike?

It is probably mentioned in their terms and conditions so you would not be surprised if you spend time reading that while registering. If you want to stay away then you need to stay away and blocking/deleting an account from a particular casino doesn't stop you from playing in another casino and as well they are not going to encourage users to create an account and the next day want to block their account after winning some money.

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I opened a betting account today (don't have to mention) but when I bet on their virtual games, they don't have the kind of options I am expecting to see but only provides more like only 4 options which are home win, away win, draw and over. So I bet if I could win but luckily for me I won ×2 of what I deposited, then I withdrawed the funds and mailed them to block the account because I don't find anything suitable for my liken but they replied me saying they can't and I have to make use of the account until 90 days before they can block the account.
However, it's my money and they can't force me to use it, so they have to block the account. I see that the only way to stay away from the betting account is not to fund it again.
So can anyone force you to make use of what you don't dislike?

Well, you can just make up your mind that you will not bet and even if the account is active, it causes no harm to you. Secondly, i do not understand that if you have deposited money and now you do not want to gamble at this site any more, why not withdraw the money yourself to your personal wallet or another gambling site which suits you better ?

Are you not allowed to withdraw because you have not completed the wagering requirements before the withdrawal ? If so, then you can gamble on gambling with low odds and betting on the team which is indeed favorite to win. If the bad luck does not hit you, you will probably be able to complete the wagering and withdraw the amount.

By the way, have you deposited a lot of money in that site ? The way you are so concern about the account usage and blockage, it seems that the amount deposited on the site is huge  Huh

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It is natural that I will not do the work that I dislike. We are always more interested in the work we like and the work we find relatively easy. A person who does not like to gamble but sees friends or others making money from gambling decides to gamble but the results are more likely to not work out in his favor. We gamble because we like gambling and enjoy its benefits and downsides. If a new member who has no interest in gambling, if he gambles with an account on a betting site, he will not be able to select the right team, and as a result, he will bet on the weaker team and will lose his money. We should try to do what makes us happy and what makes us happy and by doing that we can achieve the most success.

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There is no need to block your account if you don't want to run the account, you will never login to your betting account or you will never deposit dollars into your betting account. Moreover, no one is forcing you to continue the account, it is entirely your personal matter to run the account or not. But here mental preparation is the most important because no matter how much you close your betting account if you can't prepare yourself mentally then nothing will work. Prepare yourself mentally first and you can easily save yourself from gambling or casino sites.

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Casino sites deliberately do this so that their customers don't decrease, this is just their trick,
its been proven that each site will do everything just to make their players addicted and continue to gamble.
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because 90 days is not a fast time, of course every now and then we will want to open the account and curiosity will arise to play,
and we can find other sites to create account , there is no assurance actually.
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and it will become a repeating cycle, but this is not This will happen if you already have a casino site that is comfortable and that you like and have no interest in playing at other casinos
even being comfortable we will keep seeking for new platform to try our luck.

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mailed them to block the account because I don't find anything suitable for my liken but they replied me saying they can't and I have to make use of the account until 90 days before they can block the account.
However, it's my money and they can't force me to use it, so they have to block the account. I see that the only way to stay away from the betting account is not to fund it again.


This is absurd reason from the casino because user has right to self-exclude or suspend an account if the user requested it. I have experience on requesting about suspending my account on day 1 of my registration because I don’t like their service and they do my request immediately after I confirm it via email. 90 days is just their made up rule to force you play.

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So can anyone force you to make use of what you don't dislike?

No one has the right to force you because you are a customer. Besides you can help yourself by forgetting the website. Besides, if you really don’t like the casino then what makes you keep coming back on it if your account is still open while there’s a lot of choices available?

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I think they are not forcing you to use your money. How can they even do that when you've already withdrawn it? It just so happened that they cannot freeze the account. There must be a reason. Perhaps they don't just freeze accounts based on request. It's possible they don't have this feature. Or because they didn't find any violation. Or since it was just newly opened and there is a certain period of inactivity before freezing an account, all they can do is wait. 

But if you don't like this platform and you have no money stuck in there, why is this a problem to you?
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I'm not sure whether my understanding is correct but, IMO it's like you've done KYC at the casino and all the money you withdrew has been successful but you're only worried about the data you've sent and on the one hand you're worried about betting again at the casino.
as long you really don't like the feature I think everything fine, you don't need to be too hasty to force the casino to delete your account because you already said that the casino seems to be very new and they have a policy of at least 90 days and that's not it there a compulsion to place a bet during that time and you just have to ignore it and after that do your usual activities without accessing the site again.

I think this not too worrying because everything fine as long as you are not cheated or your money cannot be withdrawn, I think you are fine and it just matter of time for you to wait until the specified time limit because casinos have their own rules and you must comply with these rules.

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