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March 11, 2024, 04:42:54 PM
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I'm curious, what made you ask this post? It's not that relevant TBH.
One of the reason why I ask everyone about this is that younger generations were interested more on the trend of technology I mean blockchain especially when we are to mention about NFT games, cryptocurrency investment and any other crypto related income generating activities they are more active in all this. Second they are more interested in information technology course in colleges than agriculture courses.

the hype and the influence of the people online are just much more convincing to the newer generation that they would rather be investing in crypto than trying to take care of old dad's agriculture business.

the poor families are willing to cultivate lands though. i'm sure they are willing to work for the agricultural land to farm for the rich. it's still important to produce wheat, rice, and corn not just or the business but ffor consumption.









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March 11, 2024, 05:06:27 PM
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There is a huge possibility of younger or new generations adopting cryptocurrency investments compared to them getting interests on farming and food related sectors. What do you think? Does it have a good or bad effects on our economy?

Both of these statements are true but they are not inter related.
Crypto as investment is growing and might grow in the same rate but there's going to be a limit where you can't just pump but create produce that may bring value.
There would be young people in production sector but agriculture is not going to be as popular.
Agriculture is something that still can be industrialized to large scale. With AI, AI operated robots and testing of crops for deficiency and finding out the minerals, pesticides they need can be automated. Just with a few people monitoring it, all of the labour could be done by robots. And with decreasin fertility rate, there's no other way as the farming lands would be huge while manpower would be low. And with decrease in number of people hungry for food, the demand too would decrease.



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March 11, 2024, 05:32:04 PM
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*Reposting this topic from my post in other forum.

There is a huge possibility of younger or new generations adopting cryptocurrency investments compared to them getting interests on farming and food related sectors. What do you think? Does it have a good or bad effects on our economy?

I had to think twice while I was getting started with my answer. I don't even know whether investments in the agricultural sector are that feasible for young people who are looking into potential investments. It is probably not a sector that will keep growing for a long time as I believe at some point in time genetic technology will play a bigger role than it already does today.

Do you subsume any food production technologies under your so called farming and food related sectors? I assume yes and I think that's where things could become interesting again. Any advanced technology will be driven by younger generations at some point. Probably AI would take over when it comes to developing safe and effective genetic technologies.

After all, supply and demand will rule the (investment) markets and of course accessibility of these markets. At the moment my impression is that agricultural sectors are purely dominated by giants like Bill Gates and massive companies. They live off of the dividends whereas younger people look for investments that still have a lot of potential to grow. If it is about experimental technologies and breakthroughs, it's different as we have seen with some startups that exploded during the COVID crisis.

But in the agricultural sector, someone like Bill Gates owns so much that it is not important to him whether the share price increases. He makes billions from dividends alone, no matter whether the shares drop in price or increase price, whether there is a food crisis or not.

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The crypto sector is new for everyone, and we are at the beginning of the revolution in the world of digital currencies, and many changes will occur in the future.

As for the interest of young people and the rising generation in trading and investing in crypto, I believe that this is not a reason for neglecting the rest of the specializations, and it will not harm the economy, as we have previously neglected many sectors, such as health, in the time of Corona, and the only thing that negatively affects the economy is wars.

We cannot all be doctors, professors, or investors. There is a doctor, a pilot, a cleaning engineer, a farmer...
True that the crypto world is taking over, the world is changing and it is accepting Bitcoin. The world as a whole is accepting it gradually and a lot of young people are turning to Bitcoin. There is truth in the fact that it will affect the production of food but Bitcoin does not stop anyone from investing, and because we have fewer farmers, that is also contributing to the scarcity of food because everyone doesn't want to be called a farmer, forgetting that farmers are the ones that have money now. After all, we have fewer farmers and once we do, we make money. If I had money, farming is something I would want to do.

And I know that we all can not do crypto. No matter how the world embraces it, people will still add other hustle to it because we all know how crypto works. Depending on it fully is a risk on its own so even farmers can be encouraged to trade.

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March 11, 2024, 06:56:38 PM
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*Reposting this topic from my post in other forum.

There is a huge possibility of younger or new generations adopting cryptocurrency investments compared to them getting interests on farming and food related sectors. What do you think? Does it have a good or bad effects on our economy?

I had to think twice while I was getting started with my answer. I don't even know whether investments in the agricultural sector are that feasible for young people who are looking into potential investments. It is probably not a sector that will keep growing for a long time as I believe at some point in time genetic technology will play a bigger role than it already does today.

Do you subsume any food production technologies under your so called farming and food related sectors? I assume yes and I think that's where things could become interesting again. Any advanced technology will be driven by younger generations at some point. Probably AI would take over when it comes to developing safe and effective genetic technologies.

After all, supply and demand will rule the (investment) markets and of course accessibility of these markets. At the moment my impression is that agricultural sectors are purely dominated by giants like Bill Gates and massive companies. They live off of the dividends whereas younger people look for investments that still have a lot of potential to grow. If it is about experimental technologies and breakthroughs, it's different as we have seen with some startups that exploded during the COVID crisis.

But in the agricultural sector, someone like Bill Gates owns so much that it is not important to him whether the share price increases. He makes billions from dividends alone, no matter whether the shares drop in price or increase price, whether there is a food crisis or not.
Certainly there are young people entering minority roles which could be a good investment in agriculture. The field of agricultural investment does require energy and mental power, discipline to develop. If we take these two categories, people can be successful if they understand algorithmic material. In the modern era, most young people are looking for investments that are not too risky, such as the crypto world, if you know the basic knowledge, this can be the main object

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Information technology has reduced human effort. So now people want to stay far away from physical work. As the global climate is constantly changing, the tendency to produce crops is decreasing day by day. However, due to the impact of technology in the field of agriculture, production has increased significantly with less effort and time. As the young generation is technologically dependent and technological development is very high, a large part of the next generation of people are into cryptocurrencies
I strongly believe that there is a strong possibility of self-involvement. Therefore, investment, industry,  or business will play a key role in changing the economic situation of any country. But the agricultural sector will never disappear completely. In that case, alternatives may emerge in the food sector.

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Information technology has reduced human effort. So now people want to stay far away from physical work. As the global climate is constantly changing, the tendency to produce crops is decreasing day by day. However, due to the impact of technology in the field of agriculture, production has increased significantly with less effort and time. As the young generation is technologically dependent and technological development is very high, a large part of the next generation of people are into cryptocurrencies
I strongly believe that there is a strong possibility of self-involvement. Therefore, investment, industry,  or business will play a key role in changing the economic situation of any country. But the agricultural sector will never disappear completely. In that case, alternatives may emerge in the food sector.
Even though technology has developed quite quickly, the food sector still cannot be left behind. There will be some young people who will see the prospects in agricultural land by using technology to make work easier. I think not all young people will prefer an instant path through crypto investment. It is also impossible for the younger generation to do everything the same and of course they are also thinking about how to develop themselves and also things that can revive their economy.



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March 12, 2024, 09:08:32 AM
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It definitely depends on what kind of environment the kid grew up on. Most
kids who grew up around farms and agricultural fields are most likely to pursue
The same path. But we need to note that we are now in the digital era and being
interested in technology is never a bad thing especially one like crypto

I think there will still be a few kids who would be interested in other sectors
So as long as there are some kids interested in the agricultural industry, then it will not affect the economy badly even if most would be into crypto

Besides I think crypto can actually enhance the agricultural sector more these are two things I think can both overlap









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It definitely depends on what kind of environment the kid grew up on. Most
kids who grew up around farms and agricultural fields are most likely to pursue
The same path. But we need to note that we are now in the digital era and being
interested in technology is never a bad thing especially one like crypto

I think there will still be a few kids who would be interested in other sectors
So as long as there are some kids interested in the agricultural industry, then it will not affect the economy badly even if most would be into crypto

Besides I think crypto can actually enhance the agricultural sector more these are two things I think can both overlap
Or I guess we can say that it depends on the country where you reside. In our country, the younger generation who grew up with their parents whose jobs are related to agriculture are not interested in continuing their culture of learning agricultural jobs.  Since we are in a digital era, most of them have different plans to have a better life than they grow old doing the same thing with their parents.

This situation has been the result for a lot of reasons, for example, the lack of support from the government, or most of the time, the businessman takes advantage of the farmers with their products to have more profit than being fair with them.


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*Reposting this topic from my post in other forum.

There is a huge possibility of younger or new generations adopting cryptocurrency investments compared to them getting interests on farming and food related sectors. What do you think? Does it have a good or bad effects on our economy?

The crypto investment sector is different from the agricultural sector, I don't think that crypto investment can stop anybody from engaging in any other work, like agriculture, it's an investment that you can engage in and still do your regular day job. Except perhaps crypto trading that requires special skills like learning fundamental and technical analysis, the investment part is basically to hodle and monitor the market trends to know when to sale and buy.

I think that why the younger generation might be more inclined in crypto and other internet related jobs is because they don't want to get their hands dirty, they prefer a job that doesn't require manual labor, just technical skills that they can stay in a comfortable place and do, unlike the food sector where they need to engage in manual labor to get their job done. Another reason could be as earlier mentioned, crypto investment gives them chance to engage in other things including agriculture.

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I had to think twice while I was getting started with my answer. I don't even know whether investments in the agricultural sector are that feasible for young people who are looking into potential investments. It is probably not a sector that will keep growing for a long time as I believe at some point in time genetic technology will play a bigger role than it already does today.

Do you subsume any food production technologies under your so called farming and food related sectors? I assume yes and I think that's where things could become interesting again. Any advanced technology will be driven by younger generations at some point. Probably AI would take over when it comes to developing safe and effective genetic technologies.

After all, supply and demand will rule the (investment) markets and of course accessibility of these markets. At the moment my impression is that agricultural sectors are purely dominated by giants like Bill Gates and massive companies. They live off of the dividends whereas younger people look for investments that still have a lot of potential to grow. If it is about experimental technologies and breakthroughs, it's different as we have seen with some startups that exploded during the COVID crisis.

But in the agricultural sector, someone like Bill Gates owns so much that it is not important to him whether the share price increases. He makes billions from dividends alone, no matter whether the shares drop in price or increase price, whether there is a food crisis or not.
Certainly there are young people entering minority roles which could be a good investment in agriculture. The field of agricultural investment does require energy and mental power, discipline to develop. If we take these two categories, people can be successful if they understand algorithmic material. In the modern era, most young people are looking for investments that are not too risky, such as the crypto world, if you know the basic knowledge, this can be the main object

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In the modern era, most young people are looking for investments that are not too risky, such as the crypto world,...

Lol, I am not certain how exactly you meant this sentence. A generalization à la "the crypto world" is not risky really made me laugh man! If you said that BTC can be a safe investment compared to other investments outside the crypto world, I would agree if we presume that someone doesn't go bonkers and sells his wife's marriage ring (like someone here on the forum said) or takes a loan and goes all in being neck deep in the water financially. Throwing this sentence out there that "the crypto world" is not risky, that's ridiculous!

It also doesn't make sense because where is reward there is risk, that is how it is. But it's true that this ratio "risk-reward" was skewed in favor of those who studied BTC early and understood it better than others. Indeed, those people came to the conclusion that the risk-reward ratio of BTC outcompetes all the ratios of any other investment opportunities. But since I believe that your "crypto world" includes all these altcoins, then I can only say that they are damn risky and that the risk-reward ratio is so bad that your statement they would "not be too risky" is plainly false.

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*Reposting this topic from my post in other forum.

There is a huge possibility of younger or new generations adopting cryptocurrency investments compared to them getting interests on farming and food related sectors. What do you think? Does it have a good or bad effects on our economy?
The crypto investment sector is different from the agricultural sector, I don't think that crypto investment can stop anybody from engaging in any other work, like agriculture, it's an investment that you can engage in and still do your regular day job. Except perhaps crypto trading that requires special skills like learning fundamental and technical analysis, the investment part is basically to hodle and monitor the market trends to know when to sale and buy.

I think that why the younger generation might be more inclined in crypto and other internet related jobs is because they don't want to get their hands dirty, they prefer a job that doesn't require manual labor, just technical skills that they can stay in a comfortable place and do, unlike the food sector where they need to engage in manual labor to get their job done. Another reason could be as earlier mentioned, crypto investment gives them chance to engage in other things including agriculture.
Yes, of course these two things are very different and those who choose to invest in crypto can of course still do other jobs that can give them income from that job and if they choose to work in the agricultural sector of course this is very good because they can besides being able to meet their own food needs can also be profitable for them if they can do it on a large scale.

Today's young generation will be more interested in work that doesn't require a lot of energy and they want a job with the skills they have, such as choosing to do work related to the internet and they can earn income from the skills they have.

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the hype and the influence of the people online are just much more convincing to the newer generation that they would rather be investing in crypto than trying to take care of old dad's agriculture business.

the poor families are willing to cultivate lands though. i'm sure they are willing to work for the agricultural land to farm for the rich. it's still important to produce wheat, rice, and corn not just or the business but ffor consumption.
We don't need to forget that everyone in the world don't have access to the online world, there are places in the world I can take you where people don't even know what the internet is, if you ask them anything about online stuff, they wouldn't know because they don't have access to such things and such are the people who would work in industries such as agriculture or any other that requires manual attention.

So, I don't think that a part of the new generation is more interested in online businesses and investments would disrupt a whole economy because there will always be people willing to take over each sector and business because they only know about it and not other things that might be easier but those aren't for them.

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*Reposting this topic from my post in other forum.

There is a huge possibility of younger or new generations adopting cryptocurrency investments compared to them getting interests on farming and food related sectors. What do you think? Does it have a good or bad effects on our economy?

Because that depends on the budget that an individual investor has, of course you will adjust it where you are more comfortable, and you will not let your other expenses be
affected just because of an investment that you want to make.

It's a matter of financial management that is needed, and at the same time, proper time management is also what we need to do in order to do that properly.


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Investing should always have a purpose. Why do people invest? To make a profit. And then many plan to do something with this profit. Creating your own business will be the right choice. Money must work. By making a cycle of profit from the source of investment into business and back, it will create very convenient conditions for farming and many industries.
And the purpose of investing should be profit making, which is the reason people look for a good asset in the market to invest their money and have hope of earning from the investment when bull run come and it will be a good decision to carry out your research before conclude your choice.

Once you have the money on ground and you also have the skills in that particular business you are about to start and the location you want to establish the business is a busy area,  I guess you will never be poor again because you have all the skills the business required.

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This crisis demands innovation.  Imagine a world where we don't rely solely on traditional agriculture.  Perhaps the answer lies in "designer food," where oil and gas, currently used for fuel, are cleverly transformed into edible resources.  This shift wouldn't just put food on tables; it would also curb our dependence on fossil fuels.

Finance, the engine of progress, has limitations.  It can't conjure food out of thin air.  A world obsessed with stocks and bonds might neglect the fields and farms that sustain us.  Imagine a society where everyone's a trader, but no one's a farmer.  That's a recipe for disaster.

So, the younger generation holds the key. They can't afford to be one-dimensional.  Yes, finance and technology are important, but so is nurturing the green revolution.  We need engineers who can design vertical farms, scientists who can create drought-resistant crops, and entrepreneurs who can bridge the gap between innovation and affordability.

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This crisis demands innovation.  Imagine a world where we don't rely solely on traditional agriculture.  Perhaps the answer lies in "designer food," where oil and gas, currently used for fuel, are cleverly transformed into edible resources.  This shift wouldn't just put food on tables; it would also curb our dependence on fossil fuels.
Actually, it doesn't need any innovation. The traditional farming is already enough to sustain our food and have a food security but the interest of the younger generation has changed and it's not all about these traditional things anymore as they don't want to do farming anymore.

Finance, the engine of progress, has limitations.  It can't conjure food out of thin air.  A world obsessed with stocks and bonds might neglect the fields and farms that sustain us.  Imagine a society where everyone's a trader, but no one's a farmer.  That's a recipe for disaster.
I can imagine that world that most of us are all businessmen and doesn't want to go farming, we'd all be dying eventually since there are no more food producers. There should be a drive for the government to attract more people to get into farming that should give the younger generations the idea that they must do it.

So, the younger generation holds the key. They can't afford to be one-dimensional.  Yes, finance and technology are important, but so is nurturing the green revolution.  We need engineers who can design vertical farms, scientists who can create drought-resistant crops, and entrepreneurs who can bridge the gap between innovation and affordability.
We need all of those professionals but we also need the food producers as these younger generations are going to be the hope of the future. If there won't be that much number of them to be pushed that they must go farming, it's going to give that bad impression in the future and it'll turn into problem because we lack of farmers and other food producers.

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This crisis demands innovation.  Imagine a world where we don't rely solely on traditional agriculture.  Perhaps the answer lies in "designer food," where oil and gas, currently used for fuel, are cleverly transformed into edible resources.  This shift wouldn't just put food on tables; it would also curb our dependence on fossil fuels.

Finance, the engine of progress, has limitations.  It can't conjure food out of thin air.  A world obsessed with stocks and bonds might neglect the fields and farms that sustain us.  Imagine a society where everyone's a trader, but no one's a farmer.  That's a recipe for disaster.

So, the younger generation holds the key. They can't afford to be one-dimensional.  Yes, finance and technology are important, but so is nurturing the green revolution.  We need engineers who can design vertical farms, scientists who can create drought-resistant crops, and entrepreneurs who can bridge the gap between innovation and affordability.

So this means you'll turn an already scarce resource into food, which will, in turn, drive demand more to fuel and deplete that even faster. It doesn't solve anything, and and it just adds more problem. No matter how fancy the solution is, the basics are still the most reliable and most practical to solve the problem. Have more farmers, allot more manpower to the farming industry, and possibly sustain food a little longer for the population before we can invent other reliable methods.

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March 15, 2024, 08:34:18 PM
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*Reposting this topic from my post in other forum.

There is a huge possibility of younger or new generations adopting cryptocurrency investments compared to them getting interests on farming and food related sectors. What do you think? Does it have a good or bad effects on our economy?
For a layman, not necessarily an uncivilised man but an average man, it is easier to learn how to farm than how to earn from cryptocurrency or bitcoin. What I mean in essence is that farming is easier than cryptocurrency trading, investments or mining.  There are also people who do not like risky business.  If they are not sure that $100 will give them $150 the next month, they will not risk it. Apart from cryptocurrency, there are other ways people earn.

Talking about Agriculture, we all know that it is not as primitive as it used to be those days. Many things have actually changed.  Mechanisation and Robotics has made it possible that group of 10 men can produce food 10,000 people will consume.

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March 15, 2024, 10:28:04 PM
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I don't think so, nowadays young people are also interested in getting involved in agriculture because it is a basic need for many people. However, different from the older generation, young people prefer to develop their agricultural fields using more sophisticated technology which increases the efficiency and effectiveness of agricultural fields.
But it's just that currently the government is not really focused on the agricultural sector, especially in terms of prices of agricultural products, this makes young people a little hesitant about getting involved in this industry. If only the government could care more about the welfare of farmers, perhaps more young people would join this field.
Technology in the agricultural sector has become a necessity and is needed so that it can run effectively. And indeed, in developed countries, many young generations are starting to become interested in agriculture, because apart from having technology, the agricultural sector is also very promising in the future.

Because actually every country has to think about food security, and food security is of course in the hands of the younger generation. However, unfortunately many of the young generation in my country today are not interested in agriculture because agriculture does not provide much hope for their future. Nowadays, many young children are asked what their dreams are. They will definitely answer that they want to become a YouTuber, influencer, trader and so on.

So it's not just the regeneration of livestock breeders that is threatened, livestock breeders and other sectors are also threatened, although currently it is not yet significant. So it is true, as you said, with problems like this, the government should focus on the agricultural sector so that the younger generation is interested in agriculture, so that the country has good food security, so that the country's economic growth also grows.

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