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February 14, 2024, 07:33:36 AM
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Yes, AI will take over the position of the VAR referees, but this will happen after several years. Maybe AI will completely take over the position of all referees and we wouldn't need human referees in any sport in the near future. Will this be good for all sports? I don't know.
Why did you post this thread in the Gambling Discussion forum? The introduction of AI referees doesn't have anything to do with gambling and sports betting. The mistakes that are made by human referees are a part of the human and we are used to them. What if AI also makes mistakes and wrong decisions?

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February 14, 2024, 07:52:29 AM
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It's possible because AI can analyze game situations more faster and has the potential to enhance accuracy and efficiency in reducing errors, but these would require some testing and refinements.
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February 14, 2024, 09:02:48 AM
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What will AI do that the VAR did not do? The referee will go to watch the video based on what was reported to him by the VAR. The video is enough as an evidence to know if he has to act on what he did not notice or see clearly. I do not see any work AI should do there. If a video recording can not do it accurately, how will AI do it accurately?

Also it is good to know that if AI will be used, that will not necessary mean AI will perform the work of VAR, but VAR can make use of AI to make the work more accurate if possible.

Perhaps, AI will enter the pitch, take the whistle from the referee and take decision. Lol Grin

I also do not see how AI will in anyway change the narrative from what the VAR are doing currently. VAR is not independent when it comes to decision taking, they serve as an assistant to referee just as their name implies. We have seen cases where referee turned down the VAR calls and ignore them likewise where the referee failed to notice a foul and the VAR will call his attention. This same scenario will still happen even when AI is in charge. VAR or AI can not take decisions on their own but can only call the attention of the referee, he may comply or ignore.

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February 14, 2024, 09:19:57 AM
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Let's give AI a try, and see what the outcome will be, before implementing it, but I still believe that AI will do better than human. This is because human can easily be manipulated when money is involved, and that will affect the ongoing match result.

VAR have tried their best but it is not good enough, and that is why people are complaining, but if VAR decides to do things right in future, then there will be no need for AI

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February 14, 2024, 12:13:24 PM
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So what is your day on this matter. Will AI takeover VAR?
In this day and age, technological developments are increasingly sophisticated and nothing is impossible, but you still have to maintain VAR.
I mean, currently most coaches are really helped by the existence of VAR to decide what policies will be implemented in violations and for me it is not the AI that is at issue but whether the coach will be fair enough to make decisions.
I really understand the situation, maybe AI can control VAR, but if that happens there will definitely be other parties who will analyze or give certain punishments if VAR is controlled by AI and on the one hand, for me, VAR + AI will not be a serious problem in the future, so in any case VAR will still be maintained even though later AI will master it.

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February 14, 2024, 12:29:58 PM
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VAR is getting a lot of flak for errors and bias and not surprising that its making people wonder if AI could do a better job on the field. Imagine algorithms quickly sorting out plays without the human mess-us but bringing in AI comes with its own challenges like taking the human touch out of decision-making. Mourinho's idea to pass VAR to CAF hints at different approaches among football bigwigs and the future of AI in VAR depends on tech improvements and whether the football world is ready to embrace the change

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February 14, 2024, 12:57:42 PM
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One thing is certain in life, when situation go against us we always complain, but we we are the ones benefiting we won't complain. We have to remember that whatever that involves human there are going to be some errors these errors doesn't mean that the system is not working, it only mean that there are still room for improvement. Even if Ai takes over there are still people who will complain. If CAF utilized var correctly that means every other football bodies can do it too, it's just for them to continue improving their errors.

You're absolutely right, buddy nothing in this world can be done without complaining. Before, when VAR was used, nobody complained, but now that football has gained a lot of popularity, many teams are complaining. Why are some people unhappy with what they have those teams complaining about the var? If they were winning, they wouldn't be complaining, but now they are? No matter what happens, even if AI takes over, some people will still be complaining. Some will even claim that VAR is superior to AI, so as long as they are using the previous version of VAR, I believe they should keep doing so because nothing in this world is perfect.

I don't think it's a good idea for someone else to take over as VAR; if that were to happen, it would indicate that they don't trust Var, which would make Var feel let down. Since nobody is perfect and mistakes are inevitable, we should accept this and stop paying attention to what other people have to say, especially since many of the people who complain are teams that didn't play well.

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February 14, 2024, 01:12:00 PM
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Errors could always happen because we are human beings and not made for perfection. But to the extent of saying MORE errors, that is a problem and we then think about AI as the solution for this. But I don't think it necessary nor we should do this but rather make these VAR to be trained more or get replaced by someone who is capable for this position. Because I don't believe we should take AI for this as I see it better to have judges that have feelings and emotions like us.

AI never suits all, so my stand about this situation is NO. I'd just think if AI will replace everything, then we are letting these robots overpowerd us.
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February 14, 2024, 01:13:20 PM
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The application of VAR really helps create a fair match and really helps the referee to act fairly in the decisions that will be made.
On the other hand, the application of VAR can also be the cause of unsatisfactory match results because the system is considered to still have many shortcomings.

Before VAR became part of the match apparatus, many matches I watched on various video platforms showed how tight and interesting a match was played by many living and deceased legends.
Returning to VAR, for me the VAR system should be better and I don't want to say that the VAR system implemented in Europe is worse than CAF.
If indeed the application of VAR requires AI technology, there is nothing wrong with it and I support it if it can provide better results.

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February 14, 2024, 01:21:05 PM
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It is not a ruse that there have been calls for the errors of VAR to be looked at especially from the coaches. Morinho is one outspoken type and will not sleep over what he thinks is causing uproar in the enjoyment of football. Personally also I think var is doing more crack down than it is helping the game and yes there will be need for another technology to replace an existing one. I think VAR is the newest kind of technology introduced to football and there has to be modification to this technology or it will totally be replaced by AI

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AI can take over VAR soon, especially if AI can be developed better to provide more accurate results in the field. When AI can be more advanced and ready to be used in all fields, not just sports, there will be a major overhaul in all fields. AI will be used to provide even better results than previous technology because the development of each developer will make AI even better. In the future, we will probably use AI technology that is more advanced than today. Perhaps AI will be used to monitor the match's progress because it can provide more accurate results.

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By saying "taking over", it means the AI should be 100% working properly and functioning smoothly. It might go there soon.

As of the moment, since there are still known reported bugs and errors, too early to conclude everything. But as we know our technology today, improvements should be expected as time passes by. Not saying AI will take over at all but I'm sure there are still things that AI might not be compatible and suited with.

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I already commented abour the VAR a few days ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5431360.msg63591715#msg63591715

People have to understand that VAR is evolving, it's not quick that the technology will be 100% efficient
Mistakes have decreased a lot, I watch a lot of soccer and I'm sure they have, even if they pause the game, it's important that mistakes are minimized
Those who are against VAR have to understand that nowadays there is a lot of work and money involved (including our bets), so that there are errors that harm a team and can destroy months of hard work, I think everyone here knows a match that had some error and make your team disqualify from a tournament

In a few years the natural evolution is for VAR to be done via AI, these errors will be minimal, and it will be very fast, possibly done in real time and the game will hardly need to be stopped

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One thing is certain in life, when situation go against us we always complain, but we we are the ones benefiting we won't complain. We have to remember that whatever that involves human there are going to be some errors these errors doesn't mean that the system is not working, it only mean that there are still room for improvement. Even if Ai takes over there are still people who will complain. If CAF utilized var correctly that means every other football bodies can do it too, it's just for them to continue improving their errors.
Obviously, AI cannot take over anything in this world. Have we forgotten that it was created by humans, and it is also humans that ca decides to send them into extinction if they feel like. AI are only but a helping hand to make things easier, accurate and faster for humans. The algorithms and intelligence were given to them by humans. And if any mistake were made along the line the AI will as well have flaws. AI prediction in gambling is not accurate. It is based on the statical information provided to it that it uses to predict outcomes of games. There will be mistake just like other AI machines, but there is logic it can help solve while you as a gambler try to filter the Prons and cons before placing the bet.

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The intention may not be to take over the VAR but to use AI technology integrated into the VAR because that way you can know whether a violation has occurred or not because current technology is quite sophisticated if we look at it so far, but whatever it is, you still have to use a human touch so that it doesn't happen. mistakes, even though technology is getting more sophisticated doesn't mean AI doesn't make mistakes, even if it is made so perfectly, whatever it is, it must require a human touch.

So far I see that VAR has been quite good since it has been used, but maybe it is not as effective when using it, humans still make mistakes in making decisions about the penalties that should be given to clubs when playing, but with AI technology it can certainly help make everything easier to find out in detail whether a violation has occurred. whether it should be legal or not, I believe current technology can be used to integrate AI into VAR and it also seems quite good, but maybe there are those who are not happy with it. Everyone's views are definitely different on this matter, we have to respect that.  Wink

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whenever something is implemented in sport, there will be failures in the first few years, we just need to see that VAR is not yet in many African leagues, so it is a technology that is still being adapted to the present day, before VAR was implemented, there were many games where there was a lot of injustice, things like a certain team winning the game because of an unfair penalty, things like fouls being called for no strong reason, so the implementation of VAR in my opinion was very welcome. I saw a post from someone who talked about what Mourinho said. but mourinho is wrong, in AFCON games there were many situations in which VAR was not used well, it was as if AFCON games were manipulated to benefit certain teams

And that doesn't surprise me because I'm African and I'm already used to the corruption that exists in African football. So what Mourinho said is absurd, if they gave VAR to the Africans to control European games, without a doubt we would see corruption at alarming levels. I also don't agree with putting AI in VAR, in my opinion as things stand, it's very good, there just needs to be more supervision for everyone involved in the game, so that errors can be reduced and punished when the error is confirmed as being a purposeful error to harm a certain team, even though technology is good, we still need to trust humans

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I harp about this all the time, and I probably wont stop..but I think it's an important topic and distinction that needs to be made here.  AI does not exist, yet.  This is simply advanced programming.  There's no artificial learning going on here.  The programs are human made and controlled, they are programs that often use a "mash-up" of data, organize it and then spit it back out.  This type of tech would be utilizing tech we already have.

If you don't believe me or agree, don't take my word for it- https://www.newyorker.com/science/annals-of-artificial-intelligence/there-is-no-ai

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February 14, 2024, 10:48:47 PM
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Truly the officiating in the AFCON was very impressive, the best I have seen so far, there was no controversy or dispute of referees decisions except maybe in the finals. I’m not surprised this has a lot of people talking. For me, I love football and do not want the game to be ruined by this wave of AI. I would hate to see my team lose because of a machine error.
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February 15, 2024, 08:34:54 AM
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With what is happening around football in relation to VAR, well, it is not inappropriate to say that VAR is doing a good job, but with errors. These errors are not much, nevertheless, it could be so painful at times. Regardless, VAR has been a very good assistance to the referees and I do not think that abolishing it totally is the right decision as some people are glamorous but to improve on it. Nothing is perfect in life, which is why in the case of VAR as well, it can't be perfect, it is the human beings behind the screen and also privileged to be watching the match live on the pitch
 that should make some corrective decisions almost immediately to better help the VAR.

And if it is to give it more time before a decision is made, they should, not that they will leave everything to VAR to do. VAR is a computer program, itself will not make that mistake, it is humans that are judging it wrong, and based on the programs in it and the way they conclude on its advice. This is what I believe they should work on, but it seems that FIFA is lagging behind in this regard.

No one can say that VAR is still at a testing stage, that can't just be with the years it has lived, since 2016. They should have perfected it better by now instead of letting it cause a daylight robbery in football.

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February 15, 2024, 10:59:32 AM
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This is a nice answer though everyone has their way of thinking and seen or understanding the thread so I will not not some are correct and while some are wrong but all are correct and depends on the angle each commenter understands it. Some say yes AI will takeover the function of VAR because VAR is not trusted and some if AI takeover the function of VAR what will it do? Well those are some of the questions we have to answer. I think the technology in the world is increasing every day and night and the new technology that will come and take over VAR from AI will be very much highly intelligent.

The errors of VAR is getting out of hand so they have to look for a new way to settle this problem.

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