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February 15, 2024, 09:59:19 PM
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Unfortunately, no. We all have different levels in managing and performing our trades, which means the outcome would definitely not the same. Some will end up losing, while others manage to do their trades rightly and profitably, and I think being patient can do a lot in trading. While others can be very good when it comes to analyzing the market well and predicts whether it’s good to trade or not, but if they lack patience everytime they decide to trade, their trades will definitely end up meaningless and useless.

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February 15, 2024, 11:42:36 PM
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Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because, for some traders to wait till the real bull to show up in the market, it will make them to feel they are about to miss the opportunity and it can lead them to loose no matter what you do to help such trader.
Even themselves sometimes lose and that's a real thing.

So for one to make the others win, they need to be consistent first with their trades before teaching. But what we're seeing in social medias having these trading gurus.

All they teach you is about the basics and strategies that are based on paper and they don't really execute the trade. While it's a good thing that many learns from them but sometimes, many of them goes to the point that they don't admit their failures or failed trades.

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February 16, 2024, 01:23:09 AM
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I wonder why some traders are still experiencing losses in their crypto trading upon all the impart professional traders are imparting  traders in some trading section to ensure traders know when to trade to win and when not to trade to avoid losses. Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading? I asked this question based on what I heard from some traders that traded their coins early this year, hoping that the price will still return back to low price before they can buy and hodl for the real bull run to occur but this morning price made such traders to lose and, it made me to understand that there is no way you can help everybody to win in their crypto trading because, there are some traders who will be thinking that you are teaching them wrong thing until they experience profits or loss before they will appreciate what you did.

Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because, for some traders to wait till the real bull to show up in the market, it will make them to feel they are about to miss the opportunity and it can lead them to loose no matter what you do to help such trader.

Why wont lose? There's no such thing about being a perfect trader on which having no loses on which it would really be not just right that you would really be trying out to be perfect because it would really be just
making you desperate and we do know that desperation wont really be giving something good into someone when it comes to trading. Always accept out those possible risks potential that you might be able to encounter
on which we know that with this unpredictable space, there's no way that you could really be able to make 100% accuracy when it  comes speculation.

You win some You lose some. Outcomes or results would really be entirely be depending on how well you do make yourself making those trades. Not all would really be that profitable
and not all would be successful but doesnt mean that you would really be just trying out to avoid and completely stop due to some few loses. Thing here is that
you do really end up on making yourself profitable despite of those loses. Always keep in mind that trading does have those loses inevitably and never ever
think that trying out to have zero loss because it cant be possible.

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February 16, 2024, 08:38:45 AM
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No one trades to lose, but everyone is up for profits. However, the trading market itself is unpredictable, one might trade and end with profits while others might lose the process. But this is normal in trading since no one can assure trading profitability most especially that the market itself suddenly changes its position from time to time, making the price more incalculable. Still, a lot of aspirant traders rise everyday because of the promising profits one can experience in trading.

While traders can be in profits or at loss, this is because not all traders have the potentials to trade. Some are just trying hard pretending to be good traders just to satisfy their greed for money, and yet still end up losing their funds. However, others may have been really good in trading not only because they have the knowledge and skills, but most likely they have great experiences in trading that even if a market is unfavorable to trade, they can still find some positive ways to trade just to end their trades successful.

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February 19, 2024, 09:05:22 AM
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Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because, for some traders to wait till the real bull to show up in the market, it will make them to feel they are about to miss the opportunity and it can lead them to loose no matter what you do to help such trader.

This is not realistic to have a world where every crypto trader is going to make a profit. Trading is a zero sum game, our profit is somebody else's loss. The rapid changing prices means that every day people will see their positions making a profit or a loss. This is still unrealized gains or losses and as long as the position is not sold the money is not realized. But still it won't be possible to have a world where everybody is making profits. The money has to come from somewhere. Also the crypto trading expert themselves are not going to be able to make a profit from every trade. There will always be losing periods, that's just part of the game. The important thing is to make sure that our winnings are larger than our losses.
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Unfortunately, no. We all have different levels in managing and performing our trades, which means the outcome would definitely not the same. Some will end up losing, while others manage to do their trades rightly and profitably, and I think being patient can do a lot in trading. While others can be very good when it comes to analyzing the market well and predicts whether it’s good to trade or not, but if they lack patience everytime they decide to trade, their trades will definitely end up meaningless and useless.
I like your stance here, and if it is possible for all traders to win due to how the expert traders are teaching and mentoring, that would have long happened. But it hasn't, which means that every trader can't be successful no matter how they try, something will still go wrong. Even the expert traders are facing trading challenges, and there are weeks/months they could fail, and there are some weeks/months they will win as well, it's all about how they put what they know into action and being cautious at the same time. However, one thing that is keeping successful traders outstanding is the way they manage themselves and their trading accounts better. This is why I always say that there is a thin line between a successful trader and a professional trader, and being a professional trader doesn't make you successful. You could be a professional trader because you know everything about trading and are even teaching others. You may also have your book about it that teaches about all that a trader needs to know to be successful, but still not successful.

This hints that the theoretical part is nothing compared to the application, and the real-time application varies depending on our prevailing psychology (balance or not) at that time. The trading psychology that people often underrate matters a lot. Owning to this, traders can fail or become successful in trading despite all they know, but their strategy, management, plans and psychology are important factors. The most common among these that cause traders to fail are management and psychology. Many traders have good trading strategies, but they fail to manage themselves (psychology) and their trading accounts well (risk and money management), that's the issue and it goes a long way in making the traders fail even if they know everything they supposed to know about the market trading. And this explains why you may teach 100 students about trading and only one of them may be successful. It all has to do with the right applications of what you know, or else, the trader will fail.

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February 19, 2024, 10:39:05 AM
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I got your points although I was never in the shoes of an expert trader who is educating others or helping others in trades to make them some profit because that's a huge weight on the shoulders of an expert trader. I afraid to take that weight and I try to be so transparent that whenever I give a trading suggestion to anyone, either on the forum or in real life, I don't forget to give a disclaimer that "You will be responsible for the trades, I won't, you should DYOR before executing" Statements like this, can save you from big reputation cases.


Trading is hard and this is a fact that every newbie that is venturing into it must understand, so despite the expertise of the professional trader that is tutoring them, the fact remains that loses happen, even the professionals experience loses in trading. So like you said a professional trader that is tutoring newbies about crypto trading must make them to understand the risks that is involved, that despite your best analysis the market can go against your predictions, these will prove the professionals disclaimer in case their strategies don't work at a perticular time. It's best to trade the amount that you can afford to loose, because of of uncertainties of crypto trading.

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February 19, 2024, 01:02:29 PM
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The crypto market is always very dynamic. As a result, making accurate predictions from here is a fairly difficult task. Those who are experienced traders use their own strategies in trading. As a result, they profit in most cases by trading. But those who are newbies often make wrong decisions while trading. It can be seen that there are newbies who use fake trading signals in trading and they face losses. On the other hand, those who are the right experienced traders understand the issue and avoid losses. You have to keep the loss in mind while trading. You only trade as much money as you can afford to lose.

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Trading is hard and this is a fact that every newbie that is venturing into it must understand, so despite the expertise of the professional trader that is tutoring them, the fact remains that loses happen, even the professionals experience loses in trading.

I agree because professional also have wrong trade, there isn't anybody that can confidently tell you that they haven't lost a trade since they started trading therefore no expertise can make all their students to make profits. For one trader to make profits he has to take the money of others traders because they're selling at a lost or buying. Trading is hard because you can't be using just guessing to win. If you depend on only luck without learning how to trade you'll keep losing. Some traders lose while others win when trading is going on and you can return later to trade then you will win while other traders are losing. After you lose when trading, you don't have to give up but to learn from your mistakes so you don't repeat them or you'll continue losing when you don't learn.

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February 19, 2024, 03:35:35 PM
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Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because, for some traders to wait till the real bull to show up in the market, it will make them to feel they are about to miss the opportunity and it can lead them to loose no matter what you do to help such trader.
Even themselves sometimes lose and that's a real thing.

So for one to make the others win, they need to be consistent first with their trades before teaching. But what we're seeing in social medias having these trading gurus.

All they teach you is about the basics and strategies that are based on paper and they don't really execute the trade. While it's a good thing that many learns from them but sometimes, many of them goes to the point that they don't admit their failures or failed trades.
Everyone commits mistakes in trading and is susceptible to losses, and even market experts and trading professionals are not an exception. That is why there's no perfect traders even those crypto influencers in the social media that claimed to be highly successful and profitable traders in the market. This is the very reason why we are not capable to make everyone win in trading, because even ourselves cannot ensure profit consistency.

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February 19, 2024, 03:52:10 PM
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Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading?
of course not, it is impossible if everyone can win in trading, if everyone wins who loses? Basically, when someone is said to be "profitable" it is when they sell their coins at a higher price than the price they bought them at. and a trader is said to be at a "loss" when he sells his coins at a lower price than the purchase price. So if everyone makes a profit in trading, who buys at a high price and sells at a low price? That's how trading works, am I wrong? Huh

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Can everyone win?  Some will be successful and some will face loss.  It should not be expected that everyone will accept good words.  Trading is relatively difficult. Not everyone can survive in it.  Even after receiving the right advice, many people cannot maintain patience.  And patience is very important in trading.  Many people cannot analyze the market which is also very important in trading.

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Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading? 
If this is actually possible then everyone would have gotten more profit when trading, people seek advice and pay for tutorials but still it doesn't guarantee a win, even experts still experience loss or it's because you're not informed.
Learning has different process and with the right mindset I believe you'll definitely succeed. The winning you mentioned doesn't come so easy neither do people win always like consistent , no one can actually create a winning chance for you when trading, when talking about  winning chance I'm referring to a guide that will lead you when trading and with the guide you'll win, even with this guide if you fail to understand the necessary step you can still fail that's why before trading you must work on yourself first cause you're the one trading so even with the loss you dare not blame any tutor. As a beginner  try to improve in aspect of learning.
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Can everyone win?  Some will be successful and some will face loss.  It should not be expected that everyone will accept good words.  Trading is relatively difficult. Not everyone can survive in it.  Even after receiving the right advice, many people cannot maintain patience.  And patience is very important in trading.  Many people cannot analyze the market which is also very important in trading.

Patient as you pointed is one key that is thought in risk management and doesn’t only applies to trading alone but also investors need it too to be able to hold onto to their coins for a longer time even in a persistent period of bearish growth. As for traders they can’t simply win even if everyone is a great trader because aside the fact that trading is based on speculations you still need others to win before you lose. This thing is termed the liquidity on trading, someone might be shorting (selling) and another person might be longing (buying) and one of this traders might use the other as liquidity that they will sweep to earn profits.

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Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading?
of course not, it is impossible if everyone can win in trading, if everyone wins who loses? Basically, when someone is said to be "profitable" it is when they sell their coins at a higher price than the price they bought them at. and a trader is said to be at a "loss" when he sells his coins at a lower price than the purchase price. So if everyone makes a profit in trading, who buys at a high price and sells at a low price? That's how trading works, am I wrong? Huh
Yes, it is not everyone that will win in crypto trading. Some newbies that did not have enough knowledge are winning while experienced traders will be losing money in some trades.
Trading requires experience, knowledge and perfection. It also requires patience if you really wants to win big, but greed is affecting some patience because some people are too greedy and greed is always leading people to the wrong direction by losing the entire money. Always good to take the little profit you have.

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Trading is hard and this is a fact that every newbie that is venturing into it must understand, so despite the expertise of the professional trader that is tutoring them, the fact remains that loses happen, even the professionals experience loses in trading.
I agree because professional also have wrong trade, there isn't anybody that can confidently tell you that they haven't lost a trade since they started trading therefore no expertise can make all their students to make profits. For one trader to make profits he has to take the money of others traders because they're selling at a lost or buying. Trading is hard because you can't be using just guessing to win. If you depend on only luck without learning how to trade you'll keep losing. Some traders lose while others win when trading is going on and you can return later to trade then you will win while other traders are losing. After you lose when trading, you don't have to give up but to learn from your mistakes so you don't repeat them or you'll continue losing when you don't learn.
Yeah true, it doesn't matter who you are, you could be someone who is making your first trade, you could be a 20 year veteran of the field nearing your retirement as well, it doesn't matter because you are going to end up losing eventually if you are not careful about it. I believe that the best thing to do in this case is to keep it going as much as we can, so that people could make some money from it, that's just the way you could go on to do as best as you possibly could.

This isn't going to be easy of course, there will be a lot of trouble but you are going to just have different results. A newbie may make some money by luck,  but long term they will lose if they don't get better, whereas a veteran may lose because unlucky move, but overall will be in profit year to year.

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Nobody can make other to win all the trade because trading is not easy and even expert doesn't know that what will be the next condition of crypto market. We should not follow all the rules and all the decisions of others and if follow some experts then its our responsibility to not blame them after losing money because market is not under their control and it changes whenever situations alters.

We should accept our losses and due to some loss we should also not leave trading because trading is a mechanism in which sometimes we loss and sometimes we win but the main thing is our winning percentage should be more than our losing percentage. Some people will win and some will loss and all the time strategies does not works because market condition is not easy to predict and without it selection of coins also play big role in one's success.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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Yeah true, it doesn't matter who you are, you could be someone who is making your first trade, you could be a 20 year veteran of the field nearing your retirement as well, it doesn't matter because you are going to end up losing eventually if you are not careful about it. I believe that the best thing to do in this case is to keep it going as much as we can, so that people could make some money from it, that's just the way you could go on to do as best as you possibly could.

This isn't going to be easy of course, there will be a lot of trouble but you are going to just have different results. A newbie may make some money by luck,  but long term they will lose if they don't get better, whereas a veteran may lose because unlucky move, but overall will be in profit year to year.
Losing money is just part of the game, this is as if a person wanted to become a boxer but they did not wanted for a single punch to be landed on them, that is not happening and at some point they need to accept that getting punched over and over again is just part of their profession.

We can also apply the same logic to trading, as even the best traders that have ever lived have lost a trade, and even those which concentrate themselves on taking arbitrage opportunities, which in theory should never lose, will lose a trade from time to time.

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We may appreciate traders who have been too successful and even get influence from them but it doesn't mean they can make us win and be like them. Maybe some could make a good run and win but many will fails.

Everyone has different level of knowledge and skill which is why we can assume that even following an expert trader, we also become a successful one. Whether we like it or not, not all are meant for trading which is why some will succeed while some are not. Therefore, we don't need to force ourselves to become a trader if we feel we can't as it never have a good ending story.



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February 21, 2024, 11:56:57 AM
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Winning without losing is been a fantasy by a lot of traders and this is exploited by scammers then take advantage on those newbie people to scam them that's why people need to realize that always winning is not gonna happen in trading since by means that the market is unpredictable it shows that there's no guarantee at everything we do here.

Its important for people to know to be more realistic and never try to invest on some people that they gonna give you a passive profit on their trades because we cannot find any legitimate program like that and usually it will end up on scamming. We can't always win on trades but there are ways to minimize our potential losses and convert it to a win on our trades.

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