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How much BTC and ETH would you think you need, in order to have a FUTURE (next years?) 1 million allocation to crypto's bluechips BTC and ETH while keeping the ratio 1:10, meaning 1 BTC and 10 ETH, 2 BTC and 20 ETH and so on For example I think By end of 2025 with 7 BTC and 70 ETH you will have a one million USD exposure to crypto
People are hoping for Bitcoin to hit $100k and go across it this upcoming bull run, and if that happens, and if the bull run starts by the end of 2024 and continues throughout the year 2025, then you might have over $1m worth of cryptocurrencies with those holdings. However, if Bitcoin doesn't manage to go around that price, it will be hard for that to happen and you will have to wait until the next bull run which might bring higher all-time highs. Bitcoin has been going up constantly for the past few days which might be the starting point of some great action because we are yet to see any noticeable correction which could indicate that the market will go further down from here and we will have to wait more for bull run.
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Hey guys, so I have been stacking the past years, and to be honest, mainly focused on BTC and some ETH.
How much BTC and ETH would you think you need, in order to have a FUTURE (next years?) 1 million allocation to crypto's bluechips BTC and ETH while keeping the ratio 1:10, meaning 1 BTC and 10 ETH, 2 BTC and 20 ETH and so on For example I think By end of 2025 with 7 BTC and 70 ETH you will have a one million USD exposure to crypto
What are your thoughts?
All you need to do to achieve 1 million is to use huge amount of money to buy BTC and ETH when the bear run occur, and apply a long hodling like 5 or 6 years before you can sell, I believe you will surely achieve more than that amount from the market because BTC and ETH still remain among the strong coins that allowed hodlers to achieve their target. Since you have involved ETH to your investment, you don't need to panic because the two coins can make you to earn that million if you know the actual time to market your coins because if you sell in the bear run, it will not help you to achieve big profits but if you sell in the bull run, it will help you to accumulate profits. I must confess to you that you have made a good choice in this season op, BTC and ETH are good assets that will make your dream to come to reality, and it will turn you to millionaires soon and you will like to use all those coins for long term to achieve your target.
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Snip-- By end of 2025 with 7 BTC and 70 ETH you will have a one million USD exposure to crypto What are your thoughts? Collect as many Bitcoins as you can in the present to become a millionaire in the future. If your goal is to achieve a level of wealth that can allow you to retire prematurely, start buying Bitcoin consistently. There is no need to set any ratios or wealth level targets, you only need to do what you can do now to enjoy satisfactory results in the future. 7 Bitcoins can make you live in all luxury, but I have never imagined being able to collect that many Bitcoins, I keep trying to collect them as long as I can.
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May 05, 2024, 12:51:13 AM |
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To hold 70 eth may drag you down not raise you you up. 🆙
I rather hold 10 btc 0 eth and gold.
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May 05, 2024, 08:09:56 AM |
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Snip-- By end of 2025 with 7 BTC and 70 ETH you will have a one million USD exposure to crypto What are your thoughts? Collect as many Bitcoins as you can in the present to become a millionaire in the future. If your goal is to achieve a level of wealth that can allow you to retire prematurely, start buying Bitcoin consistently. There is no need to set any ratios or wealth level targets, you only need to do what you can do now to enjoy satisfactory results in the future. 7 Bitcoins can make you live in all luxury, but I have never imagined being able to collect that many Bitcoins, I keep trying to collect them as long as I can. Let's try to collect as much btc as possible so we can improve our economy and life in the future. Don't be in a hurry and have the illusion that just by investing in bitcoin we will easily become millionaires and soon have financial freedom. It is true that miracles once happened, many people became millionaires by investing in bitcoin with only a small amount of capital, but that era is over. Bitcoin will no longer have the ability to increase in price hundreds of times, millions of times to help us become rich with just a capital of a few thousand dollars or tens of thousands of dollars. Don't aim too high but instead think that if we invest in bitcoin from now on, we will have a less difficult future.
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I don't feel like 2025 is the year for bitcoin and that you'd be able to hit that million by that year with just 7 bitcoins, I'd say that it will be around 2030 or higher before you can hit that number, maybe you also need to focus on other things too, there's the fact that you can have that USD if it's enough to try and get yourself to move to a country that has a really favorable exchange rate with USD like the tropical countries in Asia, South America or maybe even in some Caribbean countries, find other ways to make money not just your work to increase your bitcoin investment and you can easily reach millions in USD if you do that.
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May 05, 2024, 10:46:48 AM |
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~snip~ By end of 2025 with 7 BTC and 70 ETH you will have a one million USD exposure to crypto What are your thoughts?
Maybe 7 BTC will be enough for you to become a millionaire in USD, because for that to happen you need a price of 1 BTC = $140k+. If that $1 million can satisfy you in life, then you can retire early or whatever - of course when you pay the tax ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) The Tax depends on where you live ....
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I don't feel like 2025 is the year for bitcoin and that you'd be able to hit that million by that year with just 7 bitcoins, I'd say that it will be around 2030 or higher before you can hit that number, maybe you also need to focus on other things too, there's the fact that you can have that USD if it's enough to try and get yourself to move to a country that has a really favorable exchange rate with USD like the tropical countries in Asia, South America or maybe even in some Caribbean countries, find other ways to make money not just your work to increase your bitcoin investment and you can easily reach millions in USD if you do that.
I agree with you it's very unlikely to happen, because Bitcoin and Ethereum are already very high and close to their ATH, especially BTC. So those assets are more likely to go down now than to go higher. There is no FOMO events scheduled in the coming months anymore, ETFs have been approved and halving has now passed. I see above one guy (OgNasty) telling "odds of it happening in 2025 are still probably better than not that it will happen" I would be curious to know how he came to that conclusion. Because it means that he thinks odds for this outcome to happen, are higher than 50%, that is to say less than 2.0 in decimal odds. That would be crazy if it was realistic.
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I don't feel like 2025 is the year for bitcoin and that you'd be able to hit that million by that year with just 7 bitcoins, I'd say that it will be around 2030 or higher before you can hit that number, maybe you also need to focus on other things too, there's the fact that you can have that USD if it's enough to try and get yourself to move to a country that has a really favorable exchange rate with USD like the tropical countries in Asia, South America or maybe even in some Caribbean countries, find other ways to make money not just your work to increase your bitcoin investment and you can easily reach millions in USD if you do that.
I agree with you it's very unlikely to happen, because Bitcoin and Ethereum are already very high and close to their ATH, especially BTC. So those assets are more likely to go down now than to go higher. There is no FOMO events scheduled in the coming months anymore, ETFs have been approved and halving has now passed. I see above one guy (OgNasty) telling "odds of it happening in 2025 are still probably better than not that it will happen" I would be curious to know how he came to that conclusion. Because it means that he thinks odds for this outcome to happen, are higher than 50%, that is to say less than 2.0 in decimal odds. That would be crazy if it was realistic. 7 btc at 143k is 1,001,000 70 eth converted to gold would mean about. 220,000 usd in gold. I would think 7 btc and 100 oz of gold would be a better hold and very likely get to 1,000,000 by dec 2025
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I agree that ETH can be the main altcoin that performs well after bitcoin. ETH can provide decent return for investors and holders regardless of other users' sentiment towards it, but why would you really want to maintain a 1:10 ratio?
I know you have considered the plan very wisely despite the viewpoints of other users in this thread, but personally would not buy more ETH than bitcoin. If today I had a $100k budget to invest, then 10% of that budget I might consider buying ETH, the rest I would buy bitcoin. The price of ETH will rise higher only if the price of bitcoin rises high, meaning ETH is still very dependent on the bitcoin market rather than having its own power to rise high like bitcoin.
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May 05, 2024, 09:39:11 PM |
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To hold 70 eth may drag you down not raise you you up. 🆙
I rather hold 10 btc 0 eth and gold. 10 bitcoin x $100K= $1.000.000 - I think it is more likely to be achieved even before the end of 2025. I can imagine other scenarios especially about the 1:10 ratio. The OP just needs to wait for the price of bitcoin to reach $100K while he has to hope for ETH worth $4285 to reach $1,000,000. Buying more bitcoin allows him to earn $1M faster than maintaining a 1:10 ratio - but it's up to him how to plan his future investments.
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I don't feel like 2025 is the year for bitcoin and that you'd be able to hit that million by that year with just 7 bitcoins, Who knows, according to the pattern seen on the history of Bitcoin price, 2025 should be the year for Bitcoin to record a new ATH that is more than 2x of it previous cycles's ATH. Bitcoin had performed this kind of pattern in its previous after halving event and is more likely to happen this post-halving event too. If that happen then 7 BTC + 70 ETH would likely hit @OP's target price. I'd say that it will be around 2030 or higher before you can hit that number, maybe you also need to focus on other things too, there's the fact that you can have that USD if it's enough to try and get yourself to move to a country that has a really favorable exchange rate with USD like the tropical countries in Asia, South America or maybe even in some Caribbean countries, find other ways to make money not just your work to increase your bitcoin investment and you can easily reach millions in USD if you do that.
I do not think profit from USD conversion can easily gain @OP a $1million total. Besides the fluctuation percentage of USD to other countries currency is not fixed and sometimes land on a negative so it will be a challenge for @OP and hard work for him to get his initial funds to a million dollars. Unlike in BTC he just need to wait for the market to hit his target price. Working and looking for other sources of income is out of the equation since @OP is just asking if his current holdings will give him $1million at the end of 2025.
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Depends on what you mean by having $1 million. Touching that milestone is one thing, actually having it, meaning that your portfolio's average value during some long period like 1 year is $1 million is completely different. It could be that Bitcoin will touch $150M for example, but only for a few hours, and the average price of the bull run will be $80k.
For Ethereum I think most realistically it will be slowly going down from 0.05 BTC to 0.03 BTC in the coming years. Not hard to calculate that 1 BTC + x10 ETH is around 1.5 BTC now and would most likely be < 1.5 BTC in the future.
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~ The 7 BTC and 70 ETH right now is roughly around $650k~ ish. But since we are considering by the end of 2025, and that I'm assuming a pump would actually happen by next year, said amount would probably be pretty close to a million. Heck most people are expecting 100k ish in BTC so that would already equate to 700k and since ETH (and most altcoins) closely follow BTC price, it'd be pretty safe to say that you'd get that one million by 2025. Tax not included yet though ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) If you were selling exactly at the end of 2025, things might change since the market may drop though.
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I was about to say to OP that with bluechip cryptos (BTC & ETH) will not move a lot anymore but after seeing how much you've got, you'd certainly gonna become a millionare with that stack for sure. But I don't want to give you the guarantee that you'd see that by 2025 but there's a big chance that you'll be part of the million dollars club soon. How I wish that I was able to stack just as you but I'm not and I'm just one of the small fish in the ocean but happily swimming with the big ones. Even having a 2x from both of your stack, you'd already become a millionaire. I can't wait to see that happen as it will be your happiest day ever.
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Right now ETH BTC is around 0.0523 or so. However this can change if the ETH etf is approved in May or so. If the etf is approved then you will make more holding ETH than BTC.
BTC is leading now but usually before it tops, some money goes into alts like ETH and it excels faster than bitcoin. Then it goes down to other alt like LTC. Eventually it tops and everything starts to decline.
So the smart move is to sell BTC when you see it topping and then sell the alts like ETH and go into stables.
I am pretty sure it won’t be approved in May. There is way too much regulation in this area and the “What if ETH is a security “ keeps coming up. I just don’t see them approving the etf in May; almost nobody expects it to be approved. I think eventually it will be approved but it’ll be like the bitcoin etf, where it took pretty much almost a decade from the first rejection to the first approval.
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May 06, 2024, 05:10:42 AM |
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even without ethereum you probably already on the right track to reach million if you just hold it until it reaches at least $120k and beyond. many people have the same target anyway, so i believe it will happen, considering right now ETH gain isn't that spectacular as it was back then I believe that you better off investing in bitcoin alone in my opinion. though i know that because ethereum is having lower capitalization might means something to you like better gain in the long term but really even bitcoin is gaining massively from $20k to $60k easy. ethereum on the other hand hasn't reached all time high maybe because the buying pressure isn't that great, but maybe its also sign that the next rally the one that gonna gain big capital growth is ethereum. but it could also probably mean ethereum isn't in that much demand anymore. though your strategy of 1:10 ratio is pretty solid in my honest opinion you won't miss out anything if ethereum suddenly trying to break out and surpass previous all time high.
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Hey guys,
so I have been stacking the past years, and to be honest, mainly focused on BTC and some ETH.
How much BTC and ETH would you think you need, in order to have a FUTURE (next years?) 1 million allocation to crypto's bluechips BTC and ETH while keeping the ratio 1:10, meaning 1 BTC and 10 ETH, 2 BTC and 20 ETH and so on For example I think By end of 2025 with 7 BTC and 70 ETH you will have a one million USD exposure to crypto
What are your thoughts?
that is a lot when you are calling till next bull run because that 7 bitcoin might be enough to bring you 1 million dollars and what more with 70 ethereum?if each ethereum reach 5 thousand dollars that is another 350k in which to be added in that 7 bitcoin that is a lot I believe .
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May 06, 2024, 02:41:53 PM |
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Yes definitely this holdings can make you a millionaire. Bitcoins are constantly increasing in the price from the past few years. It has given huge returns to all the investors in very short period of time. If you are planning to hold 7 BTC only, then it will be alone sufficient to make you a millionaire. On the other hand ETH is also a good investment option, as it’s marketcap is high and along with Bitcoins, it’s price also increasing at constant pace.
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I agree that ETH can be the main altcoin that performs well after bitcoin. ETH can provide decent return for investors and holders regardless of other users' sentiment towards it, but why would you really want to maintain a 1:10 ratio?
I know you have considered the plan very wisely despite the viewpoints of other users in this thread, but personally would not buy more ETH than bitcoin. If today I had a $100k budget to invest, then 10% of that budget I might consider buying ETH, the rest I would buy bitcoin. The price of ETH will rise higher only if the price of bitcoin rises high, meaning ETH is still very dependent on the bitcoin market rather than having its own power to rise high like bitcoin.
The entire market will depend on bitcoin, if bitcoin increases in price then the rest of the market will increase in price. But you need to know one thing that bitcoin has become quite big and its profits for investors are gradually getting smaller. Meanwhile, many altcoins will be able to bring profits many times greater than bitcoin, and ETH is also one of them. That's why many investors are increasingly choosing altcoins instead of bitcoin, and high profits come with high risks. Investing in altcoins can bring huge profits but will also expose us to more risks. So choosing to invest in bitcoin or altcoin will depend on the amount of capital they have and the goals they want to achieve.
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