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February 14, 2024, 05:21:31 PM
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I don't know of the other side of the World, but in this side of the World, men are responsible for every financial responses in both marriage and the boy/girlfriends relationships.
The demands of financial expenses is being too much at the men sides.
Here, my friends girlfriend who is a university scholar that faces financial challenges is keeping my friend worried,
On the 14th Februarys which marks the "Valentines day"(lovers day) as it may imply, it is usually a special day here in this side of the World where couples and those in intimate relationships or even relatives do have it a remarkable day to spend together. It was likely a tradition that they must gift each other with what is affordable but gifted on a special offer.
The guys (men) are most expected to play this gifting role but here at this edge, my guy thought of having his girlfriend the sum of $50 cash believing she has more of financial issues to tackle than acquiring materialistic items (gifts). This is so she can utilize the money and add up to her educational fees or otherwise.
Now, she said the guy is not being caring and romantic simply because other persons to her notice are being gifted of materialistic items instead of money. She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.

This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.

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February 14, 2024, 06:07:08 PM
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She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.

It looks like you're the one dating a materialistic girlfriend and not you friend. So you should man up and stop saying my friend's girlfriend. Grin

Ladies want to be loved, cared for and pampered with gifts, especially on an important day like the Valentine's day. However, just as all shoes have different sizes, that's how we all have different financial capacities. If a lady cannot accept or is not satisfied with the gifts and money I can shower her at my level. Then, It's a red flag for me and I'd gladly pack my bag and baggages and run a way, because I'll not steal to impress a lady.

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February 14, 2024, 06:35:24 PM
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That's the same in most countries I think, men has been given the role of breadwinner for decades, and it will be difficult to change it instantly, the 'woke' ideology hasn't been around for long, and in my experiences people who spread it mostly are arrogant so it will be hard to change the view of men as the one who responsible financially. All that being said as a men I have no problem to become responsible to earn money for my family, because my wife also has most of the domestic responsibility, so it's still fair and teamwork.

But despite the societies view of how men should be responsible to earn money, there are many women now who also doesn't like that and in this modern era the gap of opportunity between man and women is keep shrinking, so I think there is still a chance,  if you want to find a women who want to share financial responsibility, but then again as a husband you will need to share domestic work responsibility too.

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February 14, 2024, 07:16:50 PM
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Thanks to social media nowadays that are portraying people to become materialistic. Those videos that have been about giving their dates material things and gifting them money probably have influenced a lot of people not just yours and your friends but many, as in.

Celebration isn't just all about receiving or gifting but also about the time that you're spending together and having some good laughs.

People have forgotten about romantic dates and not just all about these material possessions. It is really true that chivalry is gone.

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February 14, 2024, 08:23:57 PM
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She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.
Know what your woman likes, we ladies like to be studied. When our partners pay attention to the little details of what we like, it is good evidence that they really love us. You can add more value to a little amount you intend to give to give someone as gift by just converting it into something nice that they may not be able to guess the price.

 
But despite the societies view of how men should be responsible to earn money, there are many women now who also doesn't like that
I am one example of this, I like to earn money for myself, I do not want to depend completely on a man.

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February 14, 2024, 08:33:08 PM
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This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.

But this mentality of hipping financial burden on the men is fast fading out. There are women now whose mindset has started to change and they are having the reorientation of support to the men in their numerous financial obligations that is to the men. If you look closely, you will see such women that are determined to help reduce the financial challenges of the men. So stay away with those women that will drain your finance and render you bankrupt, it is not worth it that all financial obligations should be on the kneck of a man because it will increase the level of stress to the man and of course hard times reduces the life span of the man from it associated health challenges.

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February 14, 2024, 08:46:52 PM
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I don't know of the other side of the World, but in this side of the World, men are responsible for every financial responses in both marriage and the boy/girlfriends relationships.
The demands of financial expenses is being too much at the men sides.
Here, my friends girlfriend who is a university scholar that faces financial challenges is keeping my friend worried,
On the 14th Februarys which marks the "Valentines day"(lovers day) as it may imply, it is usually a special day here in this side of the World where couples and those in intimate relationships or even relatives do have it a remarkable day to spend together. It was likely a tradition that they must gift each other with what is affordable but gifted on a special offer.
The guys (men) are most expected to play this gifting role but here at this edge, my guy thought of having his girlfriend the sum of $50 cash believing she has more of financial issues to tackle than acquiring materialistic items (gifts). This is so she can utilize the money and add up to her educational fees or otherwise.
Now, she said the guy is not being caring and romantic simply because other persons to her notice are being gifted of materialistic items instead of money. She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.

This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.
It does not only happen in your country but also every side of the world.
Maybe the girlfriend is a materialistic person that's why he prefers to receive flowers from her boyfriend instead of receiving money. Posting pictures when they receive flowers and other gifts during valentines is romantic for girls most especially for couples.

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I don't know of the other side of the World, but in this side of the World, men are responsible for every financial responses in both marriage and the boy/girlfriends relationships.
The demands of financial expenses is being too much at the men sides.
Here, my friends girlfriend who is a university scholar that faces financial challenges is keeping my friend worried,
On the 14th Februarys which marks the "Valentines day"(lovers day) as it may imply, it is usually a special day here in this side of the World where couples and those in intimate relationships or even relatives do have it a remarkable day to spend together. It was likely a tradition that they must gift each other with what is affordable but gifted on a special offer.
The guys (men) are most expected to play this gifting role but here at this edge, my guy thought of having his girlfriend the sum of $50 cash believing she has more of financial issues to tackle than acquiring materialistic items (gifts). This is so she can utilize the money and add up to her educational fees or otherwise.
Now, she said the guy is not being caring and romantic simply because other persons to her notice are being gifted of materialistic items instead of money. She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.

This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.
Actually this kind of problem isnt something new anymore on which there would really be those women who are really that loving to feel that their loved ones do really cares or mind of them.
This is why when it comes to those gifts and other things then it is actually that they are really anticipating something like this and ended up on getting some cash. Some girls might be able to appreciate
it at least but majority will really be definitely be expecting that they are able to receive something like a gift specially on this occasions or season of love. We do know that this do really once every year
so it is really just that normal that they would be expecting something effort on your part as a man.

Well, if you dont like but your friend doesnt mind off about that lack of sensibility about money then it would really be up to his choice whether he would really be that
still continuing on with her or would really be having those kind of disappointments on which it would be leading to break up but actually this is really just that an small issue
i should say.

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February 14, 2024, 09:40:55 PM
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While reading I noticed op could be the one in this shoe but he doesn't want to make it appear directly but that's fine as much as the post is understood.

We have two different people in society and to this two categories their priority differs extremely that the boundary can be clearly marked out. Here's a lady that has academic challenges that needs money to solve  but she prefer using the money given her in cash that could solve her academic issues to rather being used for material items. That's a misplaced priority. And if am to advise you, I'll say it's an early sign that you end things with her cause your visions doesn't align. In the future ,You could be planning to invest in estate she could be having another plan for that money to go on a vacation in the Maldives.
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February 14, 2024, 09:47:22 PM
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I don't know of the other side of the World, but in this side of the World, men are responsible for every financial responses in both marriage and the boy/girlfriends relationships.
The demands of financial expenses is being too much at the men sides.
Here, my friends girlfriend who is a university scholar that faces financial challenges is keeping my friend worried,
On the 14th Februarys which marks the "Valentines day"(lovers day) as it may imply, it is usually a special day here in this side of the World where couples and those in intimate relationships or even relatives do have it a remarkable day to spend together. It was likely a tradition that they must gift each other with what is affordable but gifted on a special offer.
The guys (men) are most expected to play this gifting role but here at this edge, my guy thought of having his girlfriend the sum of $50 cash believing she has more of financial issues to tackle than acquiring materialistic items (gifts). This is so she can utilize the money and add up to her educational fees or otherwise.
Now, she said the guy is not being caring and romantic simply because other persons to her notice are being gifted of materialistic items instead of money. She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.

This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.

It sounds like your country is yet to catch up with a decent society. It's better living in a world where men and women are equal on these things, both should be earning the same salaries - particularly when it comes to things where strength has zero input to the equation, like most office based jobs. What you are inadvertently saying is, you have financial power over women by claiming the this status quo exists around you and that's a rather sick mentality to live among. Women will never be fully liberated and free in such a society, but quite often this is what men around them want to do - suppress them and hold them back. I feel sorry for any women who live in such countries, as it often has roots in religious oppression and this manipulation should have been discarded a long time ago.

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There’s a lot of people focuses on material things nowadays and they are following the trend in social media and I don’t agree that only one should be responsible on their finances because both parties should agree on how they will handle their finances for the benefits of their own family. If only men are the one who is responsible for the finances of their family, then that could give a big pressure to him and he might be forced to spend more time in work than to spend more time with his family because of that pressure.

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February 14, 2024, 10:26:18 PM
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sensitive or not, it is more important to be able to manage finances properly. aka if only for a pleasure need there is no need to go into debt to fulfill it. motorbikes and cars are a pleasure need whatever the reason, for example, to go to work for this or that.
especially just for the needs of dating is not very important. unless you are married, your wife's needs you are responsible for there is a budget to provide for your family.

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Women extracting resources from men is just their proclivity. There are even some blunt people who say that all women are natural gold diggers but some of them are just better at hiding the shovel. That is one of the reason why they don't have the need to be financially savvy as they expect someone to provide for them.

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February 14, 2024, 10:50:42 PM
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giving any girlfriend money is likened to prostitution.. girlfriends prefer gifts. especially on valentines..
even if its a small cute teddybear worth $50. get her the teddybear not the $50

its only "materialistic" girlfriend if she demands expensive items, like a lambo or a $#k gucci purse

giving a girl $50 is not caring
giving a girl a kitchen appliance because she needs it is not caring

if i gave my wife the newest most modern expensive washing machine on valentines day because last week she has been saying how it has been playing up and needs a new one..even if she needed it.. getting her it on valentines.. ends the day where im sleeping on the couch on her orders, with the dog, not her

small cute romantic gifts are the standard for valentines day.. not money, not needed kitchen appliances, not lambo's

advice for rest of the year
getting a girl flowers and candy on valentines day is accepted with a smile, without question
getting a girl flowers and candy on any other day.. has her doing a concerned frown look, questioning "what did you do wrong" waiting for you to apologise for something

a single rose randomly during year is romantic
a bunch of roses+candy is an apology

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February 14, 2024, 11:07:40 PM
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Well, if it was really that important to buy her a gift, thenyou or your friend would have used $20 to buy a little gift for her and only handed over $30 to her. Although the girl seems to be comparing her boyfriend to other guys who are giving their girlfriend materialistic gifts,. 

Relationships usually work better and can become fruitful if both parties understand themselves very well. The girl is supposed to know the level of income her guy has and what he can afford for her, and she just has to be content with it. If she is being too materialistic and your friend feels he can't cope with the relationship, he can still find another relationship with a girl who can be content with what he has. 

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This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.

But this mentality of hipping financial burden on the men is fast fading out. There are women now whose mindset has started to change and they are having the reorientation of support to the men in their numerous financial obligations that is to the men. If you look closely, you will see such women that are determined to help reduce the financial challenges of the men. So stay away with those women that will drain your finance and render you bankrupt, it is not worth it that all financial obligations should be on the kneck of a man because it will increase the level of stress to the man and of course hard times reduces the life span of the man from it associated health challenges.
If we take into account the increased number of women who are financially stable and sufficient we will already know that many things have changed and people's mentality have changed from what it used to be to reorientation and discovery of the fact that all humans have the same mental capacity both man and woman.

The only thing that differentiates all is the fact that the individual level of education and knowledge,  this and many more are the factors to consider while making any progressive move.
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February 14, 2024, 11:43:19 PM
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Well, you can’t blame your girlfriend if she acted like that since that’s what she’s been seeing from other couples or girlfriend/boyfriend relationship. Women are said to be more romantically attached to every memorable events in life, while men are less focused on that probably. However, gifting her that amount is not bad at all as long as she’s more practical in life. But you know her better than us, so maybe you also gave her some flowers and chocolates and that money should only serve as a bonus, that is if you really want to make that girl feel special and loved.

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February 15, 2024, 12:01:42 AM
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she probably just wants a small little gift thats more suited for the theme of valentine not necessarily a thing about money or something expensive.
remember that when giving gift you should match the theme, giving money is simply ridiculous not to mention its just a small sum.
can't blame her entirely though, at valentine being given out some money probably the last think she would think would be happening.
if you more sensible, you could be giving gift that actually are priced less than $50 and save up some money for later. but thats just my 2 cents alright.

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February 15, 2024, 02:32:54 AM
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It's all about how you explain it to her. Surely, anybody reasonable enough will understand that more important expenses should come first.

However, if a girlfriend wants to celebrate Valentine's day, it can be done without a lavish preparation. It doesn't have to be deprived from anybody just because there are priorities.

We all eat, so a shared meal at home could be celebration enough. Perhaps a candle and some nice music would do the trick. Wearing whatever available nice clothes you have will add to the effect. And a rose won't probably cost too much as well.

A Valentine's day celebration doesn't to be costly.

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February 15, 2024, 03:01:32 AM
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It's all about how you explain it to her. Surely, anybody reasonable enough will understand that more important expenses should come first.

However, if a girlfriend wants to celebrate Valentine's day, it can be done without a lavish preparation. It doesn't have to be deprived from anybody just because there are priorities.

We all eat, so a shared meal at home could be celebration enough. Perhaps a candle and some nice music would do the trick. Wearing whatever available nice clothes you have will add to the effect. And a rose won't probably cost too much as well.

A Valentine's day celebration doesn't to be costly.

OP's story is not about cost..
OP(GUY) was willing to spend $50... however instead of actually:
being romantic such as buying ingredients to cook at home using the $50.
being romantic such as buying flowers, chocolates and a romantic teddy bear using the $50
being romantic such as taking her out for a meal with the $50
being romantic such as [insert anything] using the $50

he just gave her the money.. and then wondered why (if she then gave sexual/intimate favours, which is normal end activity of valentines) she would think he is treating her maybe like a prostitute

the story says how it was a intimate relationship and she was comparing the gift to what other couples got, she didnt ask for more money or expensive gift. she simply asked why he didnt use the gift money to buy actual gift

the issue i see in OP story is the guy, not the girl

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