Difference between afford to lose and can't afford to lose.

[Wapfika]

When you are depending on someone for assistance because you want to gamble it means that you are risking what you can not afford to lose. Why because you don't have the money to gamble but someone have to give it to you before you can stake.
But when you have jobs that pays you money so well and you are gambling it means you are risking what you can afford to lose. Why because ones you lose your job will give you another money.

It’s still a case to case basis because some people have money that can get on certain period of time such as time deposits, investments and even job salary. People on this situation can ask for assistance to gamble with money that they can afford to lose. Example they are waiting for their 100k money while they are just asking for 1K for gambling.

However, many people would say even if you have jobs but you are staking higher it also means you are gambling with what you can not afford to lose. Moreover it's true and I have to dauth but I have a feeling that ones someone that have a good paying job is staking more than what he can afford to lose, there is no different between addiction there.

This is true. Having a job will not guarantee that you can afford to lose. It’s still depends on how much you can earn and the amount you gamble because there’s others expenses you need to cover aside from gambling.

[len01]

When you are depending on someone for assistance because you want to gamble it means that you are risking what you can not afford to lose. Why because you don't have the money to gamble but someone have to give it to you before you can stake.
But when you have jobs that pays you money so well and you are gambling it means you are risking what you can afford to lose. Why because ones you lose your job will give you another money.

However, many people would say even if you have jobs but you are staking higher it also means you are gambling with what you can not afford to lose. Moreover it's true and I have to dauth but I have a feeling that ones someone that have a good paying job is staking more than what he can afford to lose, there is no different between addiction there.

after understanding a few moments what do you mean all of this about gamblers who have a job is one of the gamblers who is able to lose? if true maybe this case is like another thread that is slightly related to your case Having a regular/steady income is important as a gambler.

to distinguish a gambler who is able to lose or gamblers who are unable to lose, we cannot compare with whether gamblers have jobs or not but we can distinguish it by seeing whether the gambler can always gamble using a small budget in accordance with what he has today and Will he gamble regularly to pursue his defeat.
It is true that a gambler who does not have a job and relies on loan money from other people seems bad but we cannot judge that person to say he is a gambler who is unable to lose because we don't know even though he doesn't work but has a large asset he saves behind the scenes, only he did not want to sell his assets before the target was determined.

so we cannot judge whether gamblers are able to lose only from whether they have a job but we should see more behavior in how they gamble.

[Adbitco]

I think there is no hidden thing about what you said and I have also come to think about this as well but most times people seems to acts when there is cash flow and a good job they are doing, whatever amount they stakes and bet on doesn't really matter to them because they are getting their pay back when the month runs out. Do they wish to be gambling all time without making savings?

Off cause "No" because everyone wishes to work and make savings for themselves and to their entire family so betting with what they can't afford to lose is very bad even though they are getting it back at end of the month that doesn't mean they should always gamble with a higher amount where they would keep losing and depending on their salary for a payback, this simply shows that if their current job terminates they will go home empty handed.

These are the major reason why a man or a gambler shouldn't gamble with a higher amount, and they will always depends on their monthly salary for replacement meaning they don't have any other plans as they are working on how they could invest in additional things in their lives except from working and gambling with their salary.

[Apocollapse]

@OP why you makes simple thing to complicated one?

Someone earns $5,000 and use $4,000 to gamble, he can afford to lose $4,000 because his monthly needs only cost $1,000. Many people will say they can't afford to lose 80% of their money for gambling, but this is him, not you. Why you try to change someone else decision and happiness when he use his own fucking money?

[Bitinity]

@OP why you makes simple thing to complicated one?

Someone earns $5,000 and use $4,000 to gamble, he can afford to lose $4,000 because his monthly needs only cost $1,000. Many people will say they can't afford to lose 80% of their money for gambling, but this is him, not you. Why you try to change someone else decision and happiness when he use his own fucking money?

His previous topic also similar where he makes a simple thing to complicated one. I have no idea why he does it, but maybe it is about mindset which make him to be someone who seems to be overthinking for all things and confuses himself. Talking about can afford and cant afford, it is really simple but it is situational. It cant be based on we have a good job or not, but it is more about how much we can spend that will not bring us into bad situation (financially and emotionally).

[Dzwaafu11]

When you are depending on someone for assistance because you want to gamble it means that you are risking what you can not afford to lose. Why because you don't have the money to gamble but someone have to give it to you before you can stake.

It is very unfortunate to see someone depending on another person to give them money to gamble. How will you, after losing that money, go back to him to collect another one and gamble tomorrow? Because I see no reason or fashion for someone who does not have a source of income to gamble. These types of people are easily addicted to gambling because they will want to use it as a means of getting money to meet their needs. But this is not the main issue these types of people are going to face at the moment. I'm scared that if they lose the person giving them money to gamble, they will surely start engaging in other things that will destroy their lives.

However, you have not clearly explained the title of your thread because to me, what you can afford to lose and what you can afford are still the same thing because whether you are depending on someone to gamble or you are using your money to gamble, you must use the amount of money you can afford to lose because even the person waiting for someone to give him money to gamble cannot tell the giver what he will use the money for, so you can see that after giving him that money, he will manage the money to at least gamble for two or three days. In these aspects, I think he used the money he can afford to lose.

[qwertyup23]

When you are depending on someone for assistance because you want to gamble it means that you are risking what you can not afford to lose. Why because you don't have the money to gamble but someone have to give it to you before you can stake.
But when you have jobs that pays you money so well and you are gambling it means you are risking what you can afford to lose. Why because ones you lose your job will give you another money.

I agree with these statements.

Basically, if you are gambling using the money that you have received from another, then you are almost risking nothing. Technically, it IS your money but it was given to you for free by someone or by your parents which somehow eliminates the need for you to win.

On the other hand, if you bet using the money that you have earned for yourself, then you are risking what you can afford to lose. Your money then it is your problem.

However, many people would say even if you have jobs but you are staking higher it also means you are gambling with what you can not afford to lose. Moreover it's true and I have to dauth but I have a feeling that ones someone that have a good paying job is staking more than what he can afford to lose, there is no different between addiction there.

I somehow agree with this.

But at the end of the day, the more you risk means the more that you can afford to lose in the first place. Even if you have funds, the fact that you have to risk money means that you are risking the very money that you have earned from your hard work regardless if it is a good paying job or not.

[zaim7413]

Financial problems are very difficult to find a solution to when you gamble using money that you cannot afford to lose. Not only will you lose, but your burden will increase as a result of having to think about how to return the money. Anyone can gamble, but it must be within a safe concept. Gambling with your own money that you can afford to lose will not leave any burden afterwards, you can still sleep soundly even if half of the money collected so far has been spent on gambling. This concept is correct, gambling safely without adding to the burden afterwards.

[BitcoinTurk]

I think that we shouldn't risk any amount of money that we cannot afford to lose, not only in gambling but in every aspect of our lives because in case of loss of this money it will be a very difficult process to pay it back or recover financially. Especially gambling with money that we cannot afford to lose can cause serious problems because there is a possibility of losing literally all the money in gambling. Using money in gambling that will not be negatively affected when a person loses it helps the person not to experience difficult financial times, not to stress and not to be negatively affected financially in the long term. For this reason, there is a significant difference between using an amount of money in gambling that will not be negatively affected when a person loses and an amount that will be negatively affected.

In addition, the fact that the money lost in gambling ends up being paid in installments over a few months from the salary or a different income doesn't mean that the person can actually afford to lose that amount because in this case the person will have consumed the money he/she will earn after a few months. For this reason, the money spent thinking that this amount can be paid by paying a certain amount every month can actually be classified as an amount that the person cannot afford to lose.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

      -   For me, being able to afford to lose is like knowing that you are ready to lose your money in a gambling game. Apparently, you know to face the consequences when you lose. For example, if I want to invest in the stock market, even if I know if I lose because I also know that the risk here is high, it's just for me because I want to really try.

while in "Can't afford to lose," it is the one that makes you feel stress and anxiety when you lose playing a gamble that you don't expect to lose so easily, which suddenly makes you desperate in a situation that you don't expect to happen to you right away.

[coin-investor]

When you are depending on someone for assistance because you want to gamble it means that you are risking what you can not afford to lose. Why because you don't have the money to gamble but someone have to give it to you before you can stake.
But when you have jobs that pays you money so well and you are gambling it means you are risking what you can afford to lose. Why because once you lose your job will give you another money.

You should not gamble if you don't have a job or a means to support your gambling activity, only  if the one who's giving you monetary assistance states that you can use the money to gamble but if it is not you should not gamble it, or the one who gives you that money will insult you what you can afford to lose is the money you've allocated after you paid all your bills and it should be considered an excess money.

However, many people would say even if you have jobs but you are staking higher it also means you are gambling with what you can not afford to lose. Moreover it's true and I have to dauth but I have a feeling that ones someone that have a good paying job is staking more than what he can afford to lose, there is no different between addiction there.

If you're allocating money that should go to other expenses then yes you are gambling within your means, allocated money for gambling is money that will not hurt your expenses, and all bills are already paid, this is the reason that allocated money for gambling should be the last on your list, in my case my allocation is 5 to 10% of my monthly income, as long as the money that you will use in gambling is allocated losing it will not matter and it will not hurt your finances and you have nothing to worry about.

[Peanutswar]

On the first statement seeking money like having a debt is not the most suitable way to satisfy yourself for playing gambling you are just digging yourself into debt if you lose all of those amounts plus interest if there's any, In the first place you ca afford playing gambling why still keep playing because of getting hopeful to win a large amount if that's the case gambling is not for you. if you have a job and are just a casual player have extra money to play gambling it's just okay but at least still having a self control with your action sometimes emotions carried us out to make a wrong deicsion.

[Z390]

Just because the money belongs to you doesn't mean that you can afford to lose it, if you have some bills to settle, you should do that first, gambling should come into your mind after you have done all the necessary things first, like paying all bills and restocking food in the house, and others, whatever is left is a good one for gambling.

Another good example is trying to use money that was meant for paying your school fees to gamble, thinking that you can make twice the amount and be able to pay your school fees and still have some money left for other things, you can't afford to lose this money, very risky.
Many gamblers only think about the possibility of winning extra money, but not the possibility of losing the money, you only need to think first, what will happen if I use my school fees to gamble and lose it all? Live in the moment, imagine it, how will you sort yourself out? When the thinking is deep enough you won't be able to risk such money for gambling.

[junder]

In my opinion, people who gamble are ready to lose, they will gamble by having prepared for what will happen, losing will definitely happen when gambling because it is something that will definitely happen, therefore we should be able to accept the losses that occur with the gambling we do. There is nothing that can avoid losing at gambling. because in gambling there are only two possibilities, winning and losing, but what you have to remember is that the chance of losing is greater than the chance of winning, therefore losing in gambling is normal.

However, for people who gamble but are not prepared for the losses that will occur, in my opinion, people like this will experience resentment, revenge with gambling that ends in defeat, which triggers them to deposit money back to gamble again with the excuse of recovering losses, but this is not the case. You can be sure because there is a big possibility that they will lose again when they deposit their money again.

[harapan]

When you are depending on someone for assistance because you want to gamble it means that you are risking what you can not afford to lose. Why because you don't have the money to gamble but someone have to give it to you before you can stake.
But when you have jobs that pays you money so well and you are gambling it means you are risking what you can afford to lose. Why because ones you lose your job will give you another money.

However, many people would say even if you have jobs but you are staking higher it also means you are gambling with what you can not afford to lose. Moreover it's true and I have to dauth but I have a feeling that ones someone that have a good paying job is staking more than what he can afford to lose, there is no different between addiction there.

Literally there's a grammatical error here in your first statement which days "afford to lose",you rather say  Can't afford to lose because you can't afford to lose something you have worked for as pertaining your time, effort, strength.
They are two different quotes entirely and you can't use them for same sentence cause it just formulate a blunder in the English.

Let's say you earn daily and 5% of it goes for Gamble always and as you tend to do so you loose eventually each time so when you make up your mind that this time around you will make a big win,it quite explains that you can't afford to loose cause you have a lot workings to attain that .but  in the other hand even if you make savings for your gambling each time and you loose as well it doesn't mean you can afford to loose...

[Blitzboy]

Dependent on others to gamble? No go. Betting on borrowed luck is dangerous. Flip the script. The game changes when your paycheck is the pot. Yes, you're playing with fire, but you lighted it. Risk and control are involved.

However, the plot twist? Rich high rollers may blur lines. The exhilaration trumps caution on this steep slope. Recognizing the gamble in all we do is the key. Knowing that every option is a risk and bet.

Remember: gambling is enjoyable. The excitement, uncertainty, chance. Supporting enjoyable gambling means supporting life's adventures - with prudence. Bet on yourself within your means. Isnt life the biggest gamble?

[traderethereum]

You can gamble only with the money you can afford, regardless of whether you have a job that makes money or you are unemployed. But it's best if you are unemployed, you don't need to gamble but focus on finding a job that can make money.
Once you have money, you don't need to use that money to gamble, even if you are just having fun from gambling. You might lose self-control when gambling, which could cause you to lose all your money.
But what happens is that people will gamble so that they win some money using little money. They will not be able to win their gambling games easily, and there is a possibility that they will lose all their money.

[Assface16678]

You see, from the concept of affording to lose and not affording to lose, you will see if the gambler is an addicted gambler. Let's put it in this scenario: just like what the OP said, if the money you are using is money from not your own wallet, then you cannot afford to lose it in gambling, while if the money you are using is coming from your own pocket, any means, salary, allowance, etc. Then you have the freedom to waste it or lose it. But the thing is, even if you can afford that money, if it keeps happening over and over again, there is a risk that a gambler will become too addicted to gambling because he will want to recover his losses. Because of regret, it will be too late for that gambler to stop gambling because he was hoping to get the money back. He can't afford to lose that.

[piebeyb]

If you have enough salary, of course you can't use it higher than your salary budget, even though your budget can be bigger than other people's help, after all, why accept other people's help to gamble just because you want to gamble, it won't be good in the end, it's better to try try to focus on work because we can limit our gambling salary budget to more than what we expect, however it still has to be below 10% because of course it is necessary to pay for living needs which is the most important thing.

There is no difference between being able to lose or not being able to lose, in the end of gambling we still have to limit the budget when gambling and play more enjoy the game don't rush to win at gambling, I think we all know never gamble by being in debt to other people Moreover, relying on other people's help because when we play you can't afford to lose and bear the losses, it's different from your own salary. We are more prepared to gamble and lose money that we can afford to lose.

[Nwada001]

When you are depending on someone for assistance because you want to gamble it means that you are risking what you can not afford to lose. Why because you don't have the money to gamble but someone have to give it to you before you can stake.
But when you have jobs that pays you money so well and you are gambling it means you are risking what you can afford to lose. Why because ones you lose your job will give you another money.

However, many people would say even if you have jobs but you are staking higher it also means you are gambling with what you can not afford to lose. Moreover it's true and I have to dauth but I have a feeling that ones someone that have a good paying job is staking more than what he can afford to lose, there is no different between addiction there.

You got both definitions all wrong based on my own view of what you can afford to lose and what you can't afford to lose. 
 
You can still be working and earning a good salary and yet wager with an amount that you can't afford to lose. Imagine earning up to $1000 monthly and placing bets on a daily basis, which could amount to the amount you earn from your salary. How do you explain to such a gambler that he is in range of what he can afford to lose or not? 
 
What you can afford to lose is in the range of what the gambler is keeping and wagering within his bankroll, which can be classified as betting with what he can afford to lose. For example,  using 0.5% to 10% of your monthly earnings can still keep someone within that range of what you can afford to lose.