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February 16, 2024, 08:47:26 AM
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There’s no competition in the forum, so don’t be obsessed trying to hit the first or the second spot just to earn some merits. Just take your time and as much as possible, try to do brainstorming first until you have all your ideas gathered and summarized in the end. Even if you hit the last page in the topic, as long as your post is meritable, you will definitely earn some merits without doubt.
Spending time to look for newly created topics and pick topics where no members reply in, takes time and I don't do this.

I simply look at topic titles for finding interesting topics. Then I will read OP, first posts and consider if I can contribute anything. If the question was already answered, I skip that topic and move on.

Even you are a first poster to reply to OP, no guarantee that you will get merit. Merit comes naturally so I post naturally and don't feel need to chase new topics.

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February 16, 2024, 10:04:23 AM
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I've took noticed that alot of users are always in a hurry to reply a post expecially newbies,
Nice advice mate. But you should be aware that not only the newbies are in a hurry to be at the first reply position on new threads. I've seen some higher ranked members who also wants to have that first spot as it's seen to mostly or probably earn merit when you are able to give a good reply to the post in question. But does this really matter?
Yes you may want to be in the first post but the placing or position of your reply doesn't matter mate. If you are a good quality poster and have good idea of what you are talking about then it doesn't matter if your reply is on the last page, you will surely earn the deserved merit. If a newbie has this idea, then he should avoid such reasoning as it doesn't account for your earning merits.
I have seen on this forum older members replying in matter of few minutes from when the post was made and I keep wondering how they do that. If there advantages to being the first to reply, I would also like to know because I cannot figure it out. I think being patient to understand the topic is one way of ensuring the reply is in line and a good contribution to the topic of discussion.











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February 16, 2024, 10:20:26 AM
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I've took noticed that alot of users are always in a hurry to reply a post expecially newbies...~~snip~~
There are always spammers in every forum and social media, especially on Bitcointalk, many people try to increase their rank by all means, including replying to posts without content or ideas, as long as there is activity, that's enough, maybe that's what they think. I found that not only newbies, some of the ones I met at high ranks like that, seemed to be chasing the targets of their signatures, but never mind. For newbies, we shouldn't be too harsh, we should direct them in a better direction, obey the forum rules, if so and they still don't change, then report the moderator. There is always a learning process for those of us who understand that we have an obligation to guide them. I mean, who has perfect abilities when they are newbies?

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February 16, 2024, 10:55:31 AM
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Now you are a good example for youngsters, I can see that such cases are recognized and "negatively" interpreted. Well, that can be your satisfaction, someone will learn something based on your actions  Wink

I would like to believe that he learned his lesson, but after I opened that topic, he was caught doing the same thing at least 3-4 more times, and I sincerely doubt that he won't do it again. It's a very cheap way to get merits, and when you find a way that works, you stick to it, no matter what someone says you're doing something wrong. What is most important is the fact that he has not (yet) been kicked out of the sig campaign because of such things.

He's a really good example... -> Link

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February 16, 2024, 11:13:24 AM
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It is also important to consider some other points. Imagine a new topic opening. The question in this topic is quite simple; a beginner asks, and an experienced person answers. Or the same beginner, but with an understanding of the correct answer. But then we see a lot of answers to one simple question; the answers vary in purely verbal changes but in essence, carry one single meaning.
Are these rephrased answers necessary?
And as you can see, the first answers remain the most useful. Therefore, if you know what needs to be answered, write, and don’t think about how much time you need for a full answer.
In the end, most topics turn into rehashing the same answers.
An example of a topic that was recently opened.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485158.0

How long will this topic last? Grin

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February 16, 2024, 11:26:09 AM
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It is also important to consider some other points. Imagine a new topic opening. The question in this topic is quite simple; a beginner asks, and an experienced person answers. Or the same beginner, but with an understanding of the correct answer. But then we see a lot of answers to one simple question; the answers vary in purely verbal changes but in essence, carry one single meaning.
Are these rephrased answers necessary?
Something like copywriting / rewriting?

And as you can see, the first answers remain the most useful. Therefore, if you know what needs to be answered, write, and don’t think about how much time you need for a full answer.
Not always like this. Sometimes subsequent posts complement the first answers.

Keeping a time limit before publishing a post is, frankly, a little stupid. Content is more important. And if a quick response doesn't negatively affect this, then why not yes.

In the end, most topics turn into rehashing the same answers.
An example of a topic that was recently opened.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485158.0
The forum is littered with the same topics. Nothing can be done about it.

How long will this topic last? Grin
Until all variations of paraphrasing have been exhausted. Smiley

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February 16, 2024, 11:39:46 AM
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I've took noticed that alot of users are always in a hurry to reply a post expecially newbies, I know it is a good strategies to always try to make your reply to be among the first or at least fifth position, because it would make it easier for other users to see and to read it. But in a scenario whereby a user came across a post and reply fast without having clear understanding about that post such reply may be seen as off-topic or not contributing at all. And if such act continue as your post are always around the first-fifth position it may lead to you being ignored by other users.
So anytime you see a post take your time to understand the concept before making any reply, for instance you came across a post about security and privacy and more. If you don't have much Idea about it don't jump in and quickly reply take your time read the post after reading do some research for better clarity and understanding. And if you came across any word you are not familiar with always do yourself a favour and use the dictionary because neglecting or Ignoring such  may cause you chances of getting a proper understanding about the post.So doing all this would help you in Acquiring more knowledge and also improve your posting skills, helping you in becoming a good poster.
Its a general sickness and I believe some people set notifications on particular boards so that they are informed on any new topic that drops there. Most people do not take their time to read through topics(especially long ones) before contributing. For some, they contribute from someone else's contribution under the topic. Now ignoring the main topic will put you in the same line of thought as the person you're quoting and if he/she is making a mistake, then you will follow suit.

Something of good value or quality is easy to spot out and same goes with bad quality and both are given the recognition or rejection it deserves. Taking time to make nice and constructive posts after understanding the topic and reading through some of the contributions rewards both you and other users because you may learn more while researching or  brainstorming, and others users from your wealth of knowledge. I also think that if you don't take time to fully understand the topic before contributing, then the aim of the OP is defeated, he raised the topic for discussion purpose and further learning from the contributions of greater minds.

Finally, its not about how much posting you've done or how fast you posted, but how much value each of your posts adds to the forum.











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February 16, 2024, 11:42:11 AM
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Not everyone's understanding is the same. No one spends time to understand, easily grasps, or expresses his opinion. But there are some people who take a long time to understand because they are not familiar with the phrase or phrases and take time to find out a lot of information. So they can't easily express their opinion in any thread. But there is no problem with that. The point is, whether you express your opinion on the first page or the last page, your competence depends on how much you know, understand, and write.

I speak for myself when I express my opinion on the front page of a thread, but it doesn't happen anymore due to my inability to easily understand. It takes time for me to understand, but by the time I understand, I see that thread is already 2–3 pages long. Which is why I no longer comment in frustration. At that time, my thoughts were like this: so many pages have become that it is not right for me to comment on who will read my writing (although these are thoughts). I was very scared. But still, I dare to put my thoughts aside and hold my opinion. Rather than hastily, unknowingly posting on the first page (within 1–5), it is bound to be seen if I put a quality, informative opinion on the last page.
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February 16, 2024, 12:01:42 PM
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I've took noticed that alot of users are always in a hurry to reply a post expecially newbies, I know it is a good strategies to always try to make your reply to be among the first or at least fifth position, because it would make it easier for other users to see and to read it. But in a scenario whereby a user came across a post and reply fast without having clear understanding about that post such reply may be seen as off-topic or not contributing at all. And if such act continue as your post are always around the first-fifth position it may lead to you being ignored by other users.
So anytime you see a post take your time to understand the concept before making any reply, for instance you came across a post about security and privacy and more. If you don't have much Idea about it don't jump in and quickly reply take your time read the post after reading do some research for better clarity and understanding. And if you came across any word you are not familiar with always do yourself a favour and use the dictionary because neglecting or Ignoring such  may cause you chances of getting a proper understanding about the post.So doing all this would help you in Acquiring more knowledge and also improve your posting skills, helping you in becoming a good poster.
It is often said that quality will always stand out, if you are not hasty in making reply and you take your time in making quality reply, it will give more meaning and clarity to the original post that was made. More so there are often times that people that make fast reply do make quality replies too because it is not all fast replies that are not quality enough, however it doesn't change the fact that, taking your time to make good and quality post even though is on the fifth page of the original post is a wrong thing, somebody can merit your post at anytime so far as it's has quality.
As for newbies that always want to make fast replies, I think maybe is either they want to be noticed or get merited, however in making fast replies you can be prone to errors either typographical or grammatical,
For me I always digest post before making my replies.











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February 16, 2024, 01:14:29 PM
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I think the main advantage of being one of the first commenters in a post is that your reply is the first to be seen and will have more exposure.  If you want to make your reply known and reach out a lot of people, then you will always target the first post because it will get the most exposure.  Most exposure means more probable for people to engage with them.  If your reply is not the first page (or last page), then some users will not see it and you will lose the opportunity to have meaningful discussion with other forum members (unless the OP will engage you in a discussion then you will get the chance to post another reply then the thread will keep going).

I do not know about other users but there is a thrill of having your post being seen and being engaged by others.  You will meet someone that may teach you something new or you will meet a friend with common interest (either way is a win scenario).

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February 16, 2024, 02:18:03 PM
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If the intention is to get known by other members as an active member and perhaps get some merits for giving an answer/explanation to the question posed in the thread, you’ll get noticed alright. But if your posts are majorly irrelevant, you surely won’t get any merits. You would be known as a spammer and probably be put on ignore by others. All thanks to your hard work of making sure to quickly write redundant shit early in a new thread.

Posts which are of quality and informative still manage to get merits even if they’re buried deep in a thread.

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February 16, 2024, 03:25:26 PM
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How quickly I replied is not a big deal, but the big thing is how much information I could give in the reply I made or how constructive my post was. Instead of thinking that we need to post quickly, we need to focus on how constructively we are posting. Everyone can post because posting doesn't require much thought, but not everyone can post constructively. In order to post constructively, a lot of thought is needed and a lot of information is needed. I replied to another person, but there is no point in replying if I can't answer his question properly. Before replying to a post, read the post carefully to see what the sender has shared in the post and what information I can help by replying to his post. Sometimes some users post off topic which is not really useful to other members and their post seems like they are posting like this just to increase the number of posts on their profile.

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February 16, 2024, 04:24:05 PM
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I'm new and I don't know anything about the strategies that some people use to advance their accounts and become more well-known, but as you said, a response full of useful information and understanding is better than a trivial, off-topic response.

For example, yesterday I made several unauthorized responses. I received messages stating that the officials deleted them because there were laws that I did not know, and I know that I will make other mistakes, but my primary goal for being here remains to learn more about crypto and get help so that I can carry out my projects and help others in the future.

Personally, it takes me more than 15 minutes to respond to a post because I am new, and I try as much as possible to understand the topic by reading the responses and researching more so that I have a point of view and useful information.
Even the posts that I do not respond to, I read them and read the replies to obtain information that may benefit me.
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February 16, 2024, 09:14:58 PM
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First before a user should reply a post they should think possible things that could likely occur if they make mistake just as examplens has mentioned the case of Cantsay, he is always in found of rushing post without him fully dilute the body and content of the messages before releasing his reply and later he would come edit post which is not good at all.

Yeah, I learned that the hard way.

After the second thread way created (which was caused by a mistake on my path) I have stopped rushing to create post - and even if I end up still being the first person I make sure I’ve written all I have to say on that post before clicking on “post”.

I think if there were no errors there wouldn't be any corrections.. I like the way you have changed and this you have sets an example to others where they need to dilute whatever post they came across before hasting to post, lots of people are victim of this i could remembered then in time of POA most people don't even mind writing their details rather they would just copied the next person details to submit their applications where they cause problems for themselves.
Also make sure to use the preview option to have finite view of your writing before submitting to avoid any further embarrassment, anyway sorry for your case.

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February 16, 2024, 11:58:00 PM
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I've took noticed that alot of users are always in a hurry to reply a post expecially newbies, I know it is a good strategies to always try to make your reply to be among the first or at least fifth position, because it would make it easier for other users to see and to read it. But in a scenario whereby er came across a post and reply fast without having clear understanding about that post such reply may be seen as off-topic or not contributing at all. And if such act continue as your post are always around the first-fifth position it may lead to you being ignored by other users.
Some of the high rank members from Snr members do this often than newbies. I am not sure newbies have this idea that the first responses get the merits. Any newbie that has this idea must have been told by the higher ranked members or the newbie isn't a genuine newbie. Talking about being in a haste to reply posts, some people have been mentioned severally in the reputation board for this purpose. Yet, the act keeps happening.
Most times, the idea is not to read others opinion and enjoy the conversation naturally. The idea is to earn as much merits as possible and rank up as fast as possible. Since there is an edit button in the forum, they could just type rubbish, submit and later edit it and let it be the first post in the thread.
The way to stop this act is to start denying the first few responses merits. But then the forum cannot do that, so we should just learn how to live with that.

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February 17, 2024, 12:19:29 PM
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Firstly Op what is your definition of a quality reply?
Because if you are trying to say a long reply is a quality one you are wrong.  I have come across a lot of forum members with very quality posts of less the 3 lines.

Now from my experience if you don't read a post properly you can't make the right reply hence other posters will simply ignore your reply and if someone is kind enough they may explain to you your mistakes and if you should continue same habit they would simply consider you a shit poster.

It is also important to note op that most members may not consider your post as an advice because in order to give someone a nice advice to follow, courtesy demands you make a good example first.
I also wanted asking same question, because I think it's not about posting lengthy things that makes no meaning, I've gone through people's post and replies and I've noticed that some people's reply contradicts the OP's post but then they post lengthy stuffs or should I say post with quantity, so does that mean their replies are the best or with quality?

 I think you're right, before one replies to an OP's post, I think they should try to read and understand what the OP is trying to say, they should also reason from their point of view and try to correct the OP if their statement is wrong or take note and learn from the message they're trying to pass, if they're making sense. To my best understanding so far, I believe we all are here to learn and impact people in the forum, in any little way we can.

 @Mia Chloe you've said it all and I believe the OP would come across this post and try to take the necessary corrections, cause like i said earlier we are all here to learn and impact the forum, and like they say, no knowledge is a waste.
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February 17, 2024, 12:50:54 PM
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The most important thing about replying to a post is to understand the post head and what it says before being the first to reply to it.

Being the first to reply to a post doesn't make one a good poster that will receive more merits than others, who will reply to a post when it passes the first page.

That being said, every member of this forum understands that whether their post is on the first page or the last page, it will be read by others and have outer exposure and explanation given. However, it doesn't matter when you find it necessary to reply to a post because what matters most is the quality of the post not when you have the reply to a post, posted.

 
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February 17, 2024, 01:11:39 PM
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I've took noticed that alot of users are always in a hurry to reply a post expecially newbies, I know it is a good strategies to always try to make your reply to be among the first or at least fifth position, because it would make it easier for other users to see and to read it. But in a scenario whereby er came across a post and reply fast without having clear understanding about that post such reply may be seen as off-topic or not contributing at all. And if such act continue as your post are always around the first-fifth position it may lead to you being ignored by other users.
Some of the high rank members from Snr members do this often than newbies. I am not sure newbies have this idea that the first responses get the merits. Any newbie that has this idea must have been told by the higher ranked members or the newbie isn't a genuine newbie. Talking about being in a haste to reply posts, some people have been mentioned severally in the reputation board for this purpose. Yet, the act keeps happening.
Most times, the idea is not to read others opinion and enjoy the conversation naturally. The idea is to earn as much merits as possible and rank up as fast as possible. Since there is an edit button in the forum, they could just type rubbish, submit and later edit it and let it be the first post in the thread.
The way to stop this act is to start denying the first few responses merits. But then the forum cannot do that, so we should just learn how to live with that.


They do that maybe just to meet their posting quota and they need to rush it since they are way behind then deadline is nearly coming. For sure this is not happening to newbies since they maybe don't have any idea about it and also usually those rank doesn't have any posting quota especially if they don't have any platform or product to promote. This cases  happened here so hopefully this will be corrected so that all post we can read here is valuable or something that we can get an idea on something and learn from other base on their own experience or statements.

Some maybe target to rush their post then edit it so they would have higher chance to get those merits but I think this maybe the less reason on why this is happening and to avoid this maybe people should think twice sending merits on a post which have edited tag above.

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February 17, 2024, 03:20:09 PM
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How quickly I replied is not a big deal, but the big thing is how much information I could give in the reply I made or how constructive my post was. Instead of thinking that we need to post quickly, we need to focus on how constructively we are posting. Everyone can post because posting doesn't require much thought, but not everyone can post constructively. In order to post constructively, a lot of thought is needed and a lot of information is needed. I replied to another person, but there is no point in replying if I can't answer his question properly. Before replying to a post, read the post carefully to see what the sender has shared in the post and what information I can help by replying to his post. Sometimes some users post off topic which is not really useful to other members and their post seems like they are posting like this just to increase the number of posts on their profile.
Some also replied quickly but the same thought from those who have posted already so I think that is quite useless to say. If you have nothing vital to add, then it’s better to just skip the thread and find other topics that you think you can contribute a lot. We are encouraging a constructive and informative posts in the forum so that it will continue to serve new ideas and information to those who are new in the forum.

Replying fast or replying late should not be an issue. But it matters most if what you are posting are irrelevant or off topic. Be aware of that. Otherwise, your post will often be criticized and I think that won’t be good for you and in the forum. However, if it’s constructive criticism, probably that’s fine.

 
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February 17, 2024, 03:28:02 PM
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I've took noticed that alot of users are always in a hurry to reply a post expecially newbies, I know it is a good strategies to always try to make your reply to be among the first or at least fifth position, because it would make it easier for other users to see and to read it. But in a scenario whereby a user came across a post and reply fast without having clear understanding about that post such reply may be seen as off-topic or not contributing at all. And if such act continue as your post are always around the first-fifth position it may lead to you being ignored by other users.

I’m posting to reply or interact on opinion that is interesting for me. I don’t have any intention to make my post visible to others because that’s not my target response. You should create thread if you want someone notice your opinion assuming that there’s no same topic exist.

If this quick response is for the visibility to get merit then it doesn’t increase your chance of getting merit because it’s still about the quality than visibility besides there’s a merit thread to report post which you can still get merit if your reply is on the last or middle page as long as it is a quality post.

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