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February 15, 2024, 11:49:28 PM
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I don't care for Russel Brand. But lately he has had some good points.


"I'm DONE With The Left!" Joe Rogan BLASTS Liberal "Cult"



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Joe Rogan has spoken about previously being "a left-leaning person," but now is one of the people who have "woken up to the leftist lunacy." So what has happened to the left in recent years to make so many former Liberals now reject that label?
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February 16, 2024, 10:25:32 AM
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Sure, there are people now who identify themselves as formerly belonging to the American political left, but it would be an over-estatement to say it is a trend to find people running from the political left to establish themselves in the center of the political spectrum and identify themselves as independent or even within the political right. I don't have statistics at hand though.
I am sure the same effect which has been had on people of the left has also happened to people in the right or the center right, who have moved further to the center because of the attitude some leaders of the Republican party have shown. It is not a uni-directional thing, you know.

It has been public a notorious there are people who identify themselves as Republicans but cannot stand the politics of the current party, they want to go back to the old days when policy did not have anything to do with culture wars and conspiracy theories.

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February 16, 2024, 06:25:50 PM
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Who is Joe Rogan? Never heard that name before, right?

There are dozens of Joe Rogan's. Like Tucker might even be a bigger Joe Rogan than Joe is. And what about Tim Pool at Timcast - https://timcast.com/. Just as much Joe Rogan as Joe is... from a slightly different direction.

Practically all that is left of the Left (Dems) fall into three categories:
1. Warmonger leaders;
2. Violent rioters;
3. Diehard Dems who don't care what happens.

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I’m shocked there’s anyone left supporting this destruction of America. Liberal politicians are a joke and I don’t think any of them would be caught in public surrounded by those they represent without armed body guards. The shame of these people… The border, the children, the bribes, the mentally ill, the wars… If you voted for Joe Biden last election, maybe it’s time to admit politics aren’t for you and leave selecting the people running the country to those who actually have a clue.

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February 16, 2024, 09:42:26 PM
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...If you voted for Joe Biden last election, maybe it’s time to admit politics aren’t for you and leave selecting the people running the country to those who actually have a clue.

It is nothing wrong for people to participate in elections, actually, the more , the better. I am the kind of person who believes politics become more effective when the population gets engages into solving the most important problems of society. You should not blame on democrats to have chosen Joe Biden as president, there have been people who did not actually wanted to have Biden as president but they say on him a less evil when compared to Donald Trump.
What would the alternative for Democrats who want to engage in politics to be, stay home and do nothing ? I don't think so. And I am not sure you would have preferred them to vote for some other party like the communist party of America or the Socialist Party of America.

Biden is not perfect, he could indeed manage the immigration crisis in a better way and the response to the Hamas attack and the war unleashed in the middle east could have been better to avoid the risks of escalation, but if you take a look at the economy, it seems to be doing good under Biden: record low unemployment, stock market in All Time Highs, inflation going down and the interest rates have been decelerating. If Biden was younger and did not have so many cognitive moments in front of the cameras and off the record, then Trump would be in trouble to defeat him next November. Just my opinion, of course. 

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Biden is not perfect, he could indeed manage the immigration crisis in a better way and the response to the Hamas attack and the war unleashed in the middle east could have been better to avoid the risks of escalation, but if you take a look at the economy, it seems to be doing good under Biden: record low unemployment, stock market in All Time Highs, inflation going down and the interest rates have been decelerating. If Biden was younger and did not have so many cognitive moments in front of the cameras and off the record, then Trump would be in trouble to defeat him next November. Just my opinion, of course. 

Biden is at least trying to manage the border--whereas House Republicans are blocking him from doing so because they want the border situation to be terrible so Trump will get elected.

If you want the situation at the border to improve, vote Democrat this November and give Biden a majority in the House so they can pass something that will help.

Israel is a no-win situation for any American president because (unless you are extreme MAGA) nobody wants to abandon Israel and leave them at Iran's mercy, but they are responding with awfulness of their own.

Meanwhile, Trump just lost his first major court case today, and he'll probably lose a lot more of them before November, and might even be locked up by then. I don't think the election is even going to be close and the only open question is whether Democrats will be able to hold on to the Senate. The GOP turning its back on the border situation for pure politics is going to cost them, as we just saw with the special election in NY.



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Biden is not perfect, he could indeed manage the immigration crisis in a better way and the response to the Hamas attack and the war unleashed in the middle east could have been better to avoid the risks of escalation, but if you take a look at the economy, it seems to be doing good under Biden: record low unemployment, stock market in All Time Highs, inflation going down and the interest rates have been decelerating. If Biden was younger and did not have so many cognitive moments in front of the cameras and off the record, then Trump would be in trouble to defeat him next November. Just my opinion, of course. 

Biden is at least trying to manage the border--whereas House Republicans are blocking him from doing so because they want the border situation to be terrible so Trump will get elected.

If you want the situation at the border to improve, vote Democrat this November and give Biden a majority in the House so they can pass something that will help.

Israel is a no-win situation for any American president because (unless you are extreme MAGA) nobody wants to abandon Israel and leave them at Iran's mercy, but they are responding with awfulness of their own.

Meanwhile, Trump just lost his first major court case today, and he'll probably lose a lot more of them before November, and might even be locked up by then. I don't think the election is even going to be close and the only open question is whether Democrats will be able to hold on to the Senate. The GOP turning its back on the border situation for pure politics is going to cost them, as we just saw with the special election in NY.




In my opinion, the Democrat party is underestimating the importance of the southern border of the United States and the influx of immigrants into the country. At first, what the governor of Texas (Greg Abbot) was doing with sending immigrants to sanctuary cities like New York was perceived as a political stunt, something which was not supposed to be taken seriously, but the governor has managed to prove his point on immigration and making the State of New York to feel the pressure of having thousands of new people to take care of there. It won't make New York to be one a red State not it could certainly make the American public opinion to flip against Biden inaction on the issue. I have seen reports about the authorities of those cities to feel abandoned by the federal government, since they do not have enough funding by their own to take care of that quantity of immigrants, many coming from Venezuela, by the way.

When most of immigrants were on Texas, Arizona and California, it was difficult for the people of New York to image the dramatic situation Republicans usually talked about on Television and on social media, now that New York is slowly but steadily becoming a "border city" some new yorkers will start to feel what people from Texas have felt for a long time and pay more attention to what both sides of the political spectrum have to say in this matter, whether the Republican solution makes more sense than the Democrat will depend on the political leaning of each one of those open to solutions. Democrats need to be careful on the issue, otherwise, it will become a strong point to rally for Trump, regardless he opposed to fix the problem before or not. Maga does not care about that fact.

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In my opinion, the Democrat party is underestimating the importance of the southern border of the United States and the influx of immigrants into the country. At first, what the governor of Texas (Greg Abbot) was doing with sending immigrants to sanctuary cities like New York was perceived as a political stunt, something which was not supposed to be taken seriously, but the governor has managed to prove his point on immigration and making the State of New York to feel the pressure of having thousands of new people to take care of there. It won't make New York to be one a red State not it could certainly make the American public opinion to flip against Biden inaction on the issue. I have seen reports about the authorities of those cities to feel abandoned by the federal government, since they do not have enough funding by their own to take care of that quantity of immigrants, many coming from Venezuela, by the way.

When most of immigrants were on Texas, Arizona and California, it was difficult for the people of New York to image the dramatic situation Republicans usually talked about on Television and on social media, now that New York is slowly but steadily becoming a "border city" some new yorkers will start to feel what people from Texas have felt for a long time and pay more attention to what both sides of the political spectrum have to say in this matter, whether the Republican solution makes more sense than the Democrat will depend on the political leaning of each one of those open to solutions. Democrats need to be careful on the issue, otherwise, it will become a strong point to rally for Trump, regardless he opposed to fix the problem before or not. Maga does not care about that fact.

If facts don't matter--which for a lot of Trump's voters, they don't--then what Democrats do or don't do at the border won't matter.

I think the New York special election showed that Democrats have made a lot of headway among independents with respect to immigration because of the Republicans blocking their own legislation. Democrats, wisely, gave away the farm in that bill, and Republicans turned them down because Trump told them to. And Biden said he wanted to shut down the border (which is political fluff, but fine), but the Republicans are stopping him.

What this tells independents is that Democrats want to solve the problem and Republicans just want to play political games and follow Trump's orders no matter how daft. (The more the election can be about Trump himself, the more it helps Democrats, I suspect).

And by the way, New York has been a "border city" for a very long time :-). I think they know a thing or two about immigrants there.

I really think Republicans stepped in it (or fell into a trap if you will) with their veto of the bi-partisan border deal. Trump may have thought he was being really clever, but instead he just gave Democrats an opening to turn immigration in their favor.

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February 19, 2024, 10:40:32 AM
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In my opinion, the Democrat party is underestimating the importance of the southern border of the United States and the influx of immigrants into the country. At first, what the governor of Texas (Greg Abbot) was doing with sending immigrants to sanctuary cities like New York was perceived as a political stunt, something which was not supposed to be taken seriously, but the governor has managed to prove his point on immigration and making the State of New York to feel the pressure of having thousands of new people to take care of there. It won't make New York to be one a red State not it could certainly make the American public opinion to flip against Biden inaction on the issue. I have seen reports about the authorities of those cities to feel abandoned by the federal government, since they do not have enough funding by their own to take care of that quantity of immigrants, many coming from Venezuela, by the way.

When most of immigrants were on Texas, Arizona and California, it was difficult for the people of New York to image the dramatic situation Republicans usually talked about on Television and on social media, now that New York is slowly but steadily becoming a "border city" some new yorkers will start to feel what people from Texas have felt for a long time and pay more attention to what both sides of the political spectrum have to say in this matter, whether the Republican solution makes more sense than the Democrat will depend on the political leaning of each one of those open to solutions. Democrats need to be careful on the issue, otherwise, it will become a strong point to rally for Trump, regardless he opposed to fix the problem before or not. Maga does not care about that fact.

If facts don't matter--which for a lot of Trump's voters, they don't--then what Democrats do or don't do at the border won't matter.

I think the New York special election showed that Democrats have made a lot of headway among independents with respect to immigration because of the Republicans blocking their own legislation. Democrats, wisely, gave away the farm in that bill, and Republicans turned them down because Trump told them to. And Biden said he wanted to shut down the border (which is political fluff, but fine), but the Republicans are stopping him.

What this tells independents is that Democrats want to solve the problem and Republicans just want to play political games and follow Trump's orders no matter how daft. (The more the election can be about Trump himself, the more it helps Democrats, I suspect).

And by the way, New York has been a "border city" for a very long time :-). I think they know a thing or two about immigrants there.

I really think Republicans stepped in it (or fell into a trap if you will) with their veto of the bi-partisan border deal. Trump may have thought he was being really clever, but instead he just gave Democrats an opening to turn immigration in their favor.

I could be Trump simply acting on his instincts, to be honest. He may have not thought much about the consequences of asking for their Republicans companions to reject the immigration law, he simply thought that, since the border is pretty much one of his main campaign topics, he cannot allow the problem to be solved before his presidency, assuming he wins.
Though, it is obvious New York has been a city of immigrants, almost the beginning, the phenomenon we are seeing nowadays is different from what we have seen before in terms of volume of people and the funding available for them.

The situation is already being used by pro Republican media, pointing out how schools and hotels are being used to house immigrants and how they are given thousands of dollars in gift cards, so they can get food and other necessities. That would certainly feel many people in the United States (who are struggling) uncomfortable, specially with the whole homelessness problem going on in big cities of the country, like those in the state of California.

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February 19, 2024, 12:30:55 PM
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Who is Joe Rogan? Never heard that name before, right?
Are you being serious? He is a very popular comedian, television host, UFC comentator and podcaster. It's nothing serious but he is very popular online, that's why his idea matters (for better or for worse, it's another task).

If you voted for Joe Biden last election, maybe it’s time to admit politics aren’t for you and leave selecting the people running the country to those who actually have a clue.
Does America have good alternatives? Is it a better idea to choose Trump? A person who says that he'd encourage Russia to attack NATO countries who don't pay? Both of them are such a bad decision that I think, anarchy will be a better idea. There is a man who doesn't remember anything and has no idea what's happening but on another hand there is a man who is a crazy.

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February 19, 2024, 04:15:18 PM
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I could be Trump simply acting on his instincts, to be honest. He may have not thought much about the consequences of asking for their Republicans companions to reject the immigration law, he simply thought that, since the border is pretty much one of his main campaign topics, he cannot allow the problem to be solved before his presidency, assuming he wins.
Though, it is obvious New York has been a city of immigrants, almost the beginning, the phenomenon we are seeing nowadays is different from what we have seen before in terms of volume of people and the funding available for them.

The situation is already being used by pro Republican media, pointing out how schools and hotels are being used to house immigrants and how they are given thousands of dollars in gift cards, so they can get food and other necessities. That would certainly feel many people in the United States (who are struggling) uncomfortable, specially with the whole homelessness problem going on in big cities of the country, like those in the state of California.

Yep, too clever by half, as they say. Now Democrats have a very strong story to tell on immigration they didn't have before.

And while I am too lazy to google it all right now, I suspect that the number of immigrants coming through Ellis Island and into New York at its peak was many times what they seeing now (ratio to population), and I also suspect the funds available back then was a fraction of what it is now. The difference today is that Americans are more entitled than they've ever been. I'm not saying that's not a real political problem--it absolutely is--but for what it's worth, we've dealt with an "immigration crisis" many times worse than this one multiple times in our past.




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February 19, 2024, 04:26:32 PM
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Does America have good alternatives? Is it a better idea to choose Trump? A person who says that he'd encourage Russia to attack NATO countries who don't pay? Both of them are such a bad decision that I think, anarchy will be a better idea. There is a man who doesn't remember anything and has no idea what's happening but on another hand there is a man who is a crazy.

Biden is getting old and he isn't a very smooth speaker (and he never really was), but he certainly still has full command of his ideas and I have no doubt he's able to convey them to his staff very clearly and run the country just fine.

Trump, meanwhile, is... absolutely gone. Here he is talking about NATO. Repeat, he is talking about the US staying in NATO here:

Why should you just hand it over to ’em? Do it as a form of a loan. I do that with athletes, they can’t quite, like a professional golfer who I think is very good, they don’t have any money, but they have a lot of talent. I’ll say here’s the deal, I did it with a number of people, here’s the deal, what I wanna do professional golfer, play golf, I play very nice. Did you see the picture of me, the horrible picture with the stomach out to here? That was… So what I do is, I’m putting up today a picture of me, actually, what I actually look like, hitting a ball, smashing the fricking ball, and you’ll see quite — I wouldn’t say slim. I wouldn’t say slim. But not bad. But the ball does go far. I would say it goes about nine times further than Biden can hit it.

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February 19, 2024, 04:34:13 PM
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Does America have good alternatives? Is it a better idea to choose Trump? A person who says that he'd encourage Russia to attack NATO countries who don't pay? Both of them are such a bad decision that I think, anarchy will be a better idea. There is a man who doesn't remember anything and has no idea what's happening but on another hand there is a man who is a crazy.

Biden is getting old and he isn't a very smooth speaker (and he never really was), but he certainly still has full command of his ideas and I have no doubt he's able to convey them to his staff very clearly and run the country just fine.

Trump, meanwhile, is... absolutely gone. Here he is talking about NATO. Repeat, he is talking about the US staying in NATO here:

Why should you just hand it over to ’em? Do it as a form of a loan. I do that with athletes, they can’t quite, like a professional golfer who I think is very good, they don’t have any money, but they have a lot of talent. I’ll say here’s the deal, I did it with a number of people, here’s the deal, what I wanna do professional golfer, play golf, I play very nice. Did you see the picture of me, the horrible picture with the stomach out to here? That was… So what I do is, I’m putting up today a picture of me, actually, what I actually look like, hitting a ball, smashing the fricking ball, and you’ll see quite — I wouldn’t say slim. I wouldn’t say slim. But not bad. But the ball does go far. I would say it goes about nine times further than Biden can hit it.

Ever since the break-up of the USSR in 1991, Russia has been trying to join the USDollar world economy. They even requested to join NATO, but were turned down by the US.

NATO is a has-been organization. Time to shut her down and move into the modern world. Don't simply try to conquer Russia and steal her lands. Rather, make her a partner with us all, and gain access to everything she has the easy way.

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February 19, 2024, 05:01:21 PM
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Biden is getting old and he isn't a very smooth speaker (and he never really was), but he certainly still has full command of his ideas and I have no doubt he's able to convey them to his staff very clearly and run the country just fine.

Trump, meanwhile, is... absolutely gone. Here he is talking about NATO. Repeat, he is talking about the US staying in NATO here:

Why should you just hand it over to ’em? Do it as a form of a loan. I do that with athletes, they can’t quite, like a professional golfer who I think is very good, they don’t have any money, but they have a lot of talent. I’ll say here’s the deal, I did it with a number of people, here’s the deal, what I wanna do professional golfer, play golf, I play very nice. Did you see the picture of me, the horrible picture with the stomach out to here? That was… So what I do is, I’m putting up today a picture of me, actually, what I actually look like, hitting a ball, smashing the fricking ball, and you’ll see quite — I wouldn’t say slim. I wouldn’t say slim. But not bad. But the ball does go far. I would say it goes about nine times further than Biden can hit it.

Ever since the break-up of the USSR in 1991, Russia has been trying to join the USDollar world economy. They even requested to join NATO, but were turned down by the US.

NATO is a has-been organization. Time to shut her down and move into the modern world. Don't simply try to conquer Russia and steal her lands. Rather, make her a partner with us all, and gain access to everything she has the easy way.

Actually the Soviets had to base their supply system on the US dollar since they had no way of doing price discovery otherwise. In other words, they couldn't discover how much to charge for things.

Of course that was only when the system functioned normally, which is almost never did and was instead just a kleptocracy wherein corruption determined the flow of goods (and it still is today).

But yes, Russian thugs have wanted to demolish NATO since it was formed so they could achieve their dream of taking over the rest of Europe. Without NATO, Poland, then Germany, than France, then England would all fall like dominos one by one to Russia aggression. Putin has proven in word and deed that he plans to carry this out if he is given the chance.


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February 20, 2024, 11:20:34 AM
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Liberals have been pushing too much & too hard for a long time now, so much that they will end up losing the people who may lean slightly left of centre to vote for the right. There is nothing wrong with having left wing political views but pushing multiple genders that don’t exist on people & pushing diversity where it isn’t required will annoy a lot of people. Things usually go full circle & I feel we have been pushed nearly as far as is acceptable.

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